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WOT no bypass?
- cronela (9th Apr 2019 @ 18:42:09)

I was very annoyed to read in a circular that was distributed to all the Liphook residents that Whitehill and Bordon now have a new bypass to send traffic away from the high street. WHAT ABOUT LIPHOOK THEN? We have this blooming square into which all traffic has to filter to get from south to north or east to west. Plus, a wretched zebra crossing that delays traffic when school kids are going around. WHAT ABOUT A PELICAN CROSSINGso that all parties have a fair go!!
See to it you councillors!!

Re: WOT no bypass?
- Ian (9th Apr 2019 @ 19:40:37)

Bordon has priority over lesser areas. It will be getting the lions share of future modern new housing, shopping and infrastructure. It is already a more desirable place to live.

Re: WOT no bypass?
- Yellow Bannanna Adrian (9th Apr 2019 @ 20:32:58)

The thing with Liphook and Bordon is that both are getting money from developer contributions but Bordon spend it in Bordon for things that Bordon residents need or want e.g. Skatepark and bypass.
However Liphook give it ALL away to other areas miles away from Liphook.(How generous).

Re: WOT no bypass?
- Adrian (9th Apr 2019 @ 21:33:27)

I agree with Ian. Liphook needs some regeneration as parts of it are looking embarrassingly scruffy and run down. Traffic at peak times is disgraceful. With all the new investment in facilities and infrastructure in Bordon it is already overtaking Liphook as a better place to live. Apparently it is becoming known as The Bordone Region or the Sandbanks of Hampshite.

Re: WOT no bypass?
- Gr (10th Apr 2019 @ 00:23:53)

Liphook has a bypass as the A3 used to run through the centre

But it needs a route from station road to longmoor

Re: WOT no bypass?
- liz (10th Apr 2019 @ 10:01:01)

What it really needs is a route from the Headley and Longmoor Roads to the Haslemere Road avoiding the Square. Unfortunately any options have been built on.

Re: WOT no bypass?
- Helen (10th Apr 2019 @ 14:18:25)

It is mostly school times that it is busy avoid that there is no problem.

Re: WOT no bypass?
- oldie (10th Apr 2019 @ 17:08:48)

Agree with cronella.

Helen, yes whilst it is much worse during the school rush (and also work rush) hour, the fact is that it's a narrow, historic square, lorries and coaches have to mount the pavement by Haslemere Road (the chemist) to get past queuing traffic and I've seen children inches away from lorry wheels walking to school, and if they build on all the land without setting anything aside for a ring road it will be too late, as traffic increases we'll never get a bypass.

Yes we got the A3 bypass but really that wasn't for us, it was done for the traffics sake, the major artery between London and the South Coast, they got a bypass first and foremost. Our current problems don't register on their radar and our local politicians should be kicking up a stink, but we're not hearing them.

The last feasible hope for a Liphook ring road of any kind is now before too many new housing estates go up, we could make the square no through route except for local access and cyclists, diverting all through traffic from west, south, east etc via a modern link road from Highfield Lane in the east to the A3 (perhaps a new junction somewhere by the current petrol stations on the A3) linking up to the B3004.

Yes it would take a lot of organising and judging by the rate of progress of previous road projects, decades to implement, but if we're not shouting for it we'll never be heard!

Re: WOT no bypass?
- Helen (10th Apr 2019 @ 17:51:07)

You could not possibly build and bypass to include any local access. It is either open or closed.

Re: WOT no bypass?
- Adrian (10th Apr 2019 @ 23:15:32)

I always bypass Liphook and go somewhere decent with shops selling yellow bananas 🍌

Re: WOT no bypass?
- k (11th Apr 2019 @ 09:24:31)

The real problem is the lack of consideration - breaking the rules of the road & sheer arrogance & aggression of drivers in Liphook - If people drive correctly much less problems ie blocking roundabouts when cannot exit- yes still a lot of traffic but would be much safer & traffic would flow better. I agree school run does make everything a lot worse - as previously suggested in other threads may be do consider staggering school drop off times - almost a pleasure at the moment driving to work in the morning!! Don't think a bypass with in Liphook a viable option sorry - whose homes are you going to knock down or create a rat run past to achieve this?

Re: WOT no bypass?
- Julie (11th Apr 2019 @ 12:54:30)

Maybe if they got rid of the zebra crossing by the anchor the traffic wouldn't have to stop every few seconds. There's a crossing on 3 out of the four roads so it really isn't needed

Re: WOT no bypass?
- Anon (12th Apr 2019 @ 21:20:32)

Path of least resistance - A lollipop lady/man on the zebra crossing at peak times. That will do it!

Re: WOT no bypass?
- Rob (12th Apr 2019 @ 23:30:16)

Yes I quite agree. The main problem is the school "rush". Extra traffic and the hordes of kids coming out of Bohunt who amble across the zebra crossing in one's and two's with no consideration for the road users. A crossing patrol or a pelican crossing or even better no crossing in the vital middle of the square and one on Haslemere road where there isn't one and that would be the main issues sorted out MN

Re: WOT no bypass?
- Jane Ives (13th Apr 2019 @ 08:13:36)

At the recent Annual Parish Meeting in Liphook the County Councillor was quizzed on a link road. She said that funding could only happen if there was major housing development. When the calculations were done it would need 9000 houses to be built in order to fund a new road. A quite crazy statistic I know but there is no funding for new roads without large scale development.

Re: WOT no bypass?
- Richard (13th Apr 2019 @ 12:51:22)

The main trouble is that four roads converge in the square as follows:

Road 1 - from Lloyds roundabout towards the Square roundabout
Road 2 - Bohunt School road
Road 3 - Bordon Road
Road 4 - London Road from bypass

Road 1 has to give way to Road 4
Road 2 has to give way to Road 1
Road 3 has to give way to Roads 1 and 2
Road 4 has to give way to Road 3, 2 and 1

Where this Mexican standoff occurs with no-one having right of way, someone has to go and then chaos ensues.

A solution to this during school rush time is as follows.

Make road 2 access only and road 3 exit only

This way the majority of traffic coming from road 1 just turns left goes through the avenue and comes out of road 3.

Thereby Road 2 don't need to be given way to and it removes it from the roundabout at these times.

New system as follows:

Road 3 gives way to traffic from road 1 NOT going to Bohunt
Road 4 gives way to Road 3

That's it. Much easier.

Re: WOT no bypass?
- John (13th Apr 2019 @ 15:32:30)

Road 1, Bordon Rd, Bohunt school road, Road 2! Lol

Might have been easier to explain had you said A+X-Y but only when Z = D

Re: WOT no bypass?
- Anon (13th Apr 2019 @ 15:46:32)

Whilst one can follow the logic of a time governed access only scheme....a rather humorous train of thought perhaps is the apparent inability of a growing number of drivers, to follow any highway code directives re the use of roundabout which does seem on occasions, a little challenging for some (just an accurate observation). One believes these 'some' may go into melt down re; entry 1, exit 2 road 3, if in doubt use road 4, One suspects that we may need to call in the Russian military on day 2. One hopes that one is not talking out of turn here.My understanding is that understanding right of way on roundabouts still forms part of passing ones driving test, as it did when one passed 124 years ago. LOL!

Re: WOT no bypass?
- helen (13th Apr 2019 @ 16:09:59)

Who would police an access only road in school rush hour? It cannot work being access only.

Re: WOT no bypass?
- Yellow Bannanna Adrian (15th Apr 2019 @ 09:50:48)

Most of the issues boil down to new roads needed which probably won't happen.
The roundabout seems the issue, what about traffic lights.

Re: WOT no bypass?
- barry (25th Apr 2019 @ 11:09:47)

Passfield and Conford residents are lucky to be able to drive the back way to get to the A3 instead of negotiating the village roundabouts all the time.
Although you still get the ole 'Mexican standoff' [is that still PC?' when the road is narrow and the Chelsea tractors come through and won't pull over....
I think on of the housing developers/landowners is trying to promote his idea for making millions by selling a new road scheme, downside, hundreds of more road users that weren't there before the new houses were built!!!

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