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Radford Park Bridge
- Dizzie-wh (31st Jul 2018 †16:48:51)

Just wondering if there is any recent updates regarding replacement of the old "Poo Sticks" Bridge???
Thanks

Re: Radford Park Bridge
- Cllr Jane Ives (31st Jul 2018 †22:56:37)

Yes and I know it's taking an awfully long time! The parish council have contracted Hampshire County Council to carry out the work and it needed all sorts of surveys, permissions etc which I know seems daft as we're replacing like for like.

However we are just about there and contractors should be chosen very soon. I don't want to promise a date as we are in the hands of the County Council, but I can assure you it is being sorted and we are pushing as much as we are able.

We will have a bridge there in the next few months!

Jane Ives
Chair
Parish Council

Re: Radford Park Bridge
- RŲlli (1st Aug 2018 †09:13:34)

Are there not better things the money could be spent on?

Re: Radford Park Bridge
- Dawn Hoskins (1st Aug 2018 †13:36:17)

Yes - let's leave people stranded on the other side of the river Jane!

Re: Radford Park Bridge
- mary (1st Aug 2018 †15:02:29)

lets hope the bridge dosent take as long as it has to sort out the old willows building i belive its 2 years now

Re: Radford Park Bridge
- Dizzie-wh (10th Aug 2018 †15:43:10)

Hi Jane,
Sorry I missed your response. Thank you SO much for the update.
Will be lovely to do the circular walk again!!
In Hope
Diz x

Re: Radford Park Bridge
- jenny (10th Aug 2018 †16:28:02)

hi i think you should read the liphook herald about the parish council not sure radford park will get bridge this year ??????

Re: Radford Park Bridge
- Clare (10th Aug 2018 †18:54:43)


In my opinion the bridge is synonymous with childhood in Liphook! Simple pleasures need to be preserved and appreciated. cant wait to see it back!

Re: Radford Park Bridge
- Mike (10th Aug 2018 †19:58:39)

LOL! "Stranded" you say dawn?

You know if you walk another 15m towards the road you reach the footpath next to London road, then take a left and walk 20m you reach the entrance to Radford park, all in all is an extra few dozen meters to complete the loop of Radford park and all of that new loop is on existing footpath.

Forget the bridge, it was nice whilst we had it but its going to cost tens of thousands to replace it, and for what, it looks nice and it saves you a few dozen meters on a loop of the park... seriously! 10's of £1000 ?

Spend it elsewhere please, we cant be throwing that sort of money into "oh isnt it lovely, I used to throw a stick off it"


Re: Radford Park Bridge
- Ozzy (11th Aug 2018 †16:42:49)

Mike,

It's not quite the measurements you stated in your last post. It adds atleat 5 minutes to your journey to get from one point of where the bridge use to be to the other. And some people don't like to have to walk next to a busy road to get from point A to B.

Re: Radford Park Bridge
- Diane (11th Aug 2018 †18:50:17)

Seriously, 10's of thousands of pounds. How much exactly?

Re: Radford Park Bridge
- Mike (11th Aug 2018 †21:19:34)

Ozzy,

Ok, measured it online, its 46m from where the bridge once stood to London road path and 79m from that point along the London road path to the entrance to Radford park, thus completing the loop, note if you crossed the bridge when it existed to make a loop you would still use 10m on bridge.

46m + 79m - 10 = 115m

So I was wrong in my original post re distances, I was out by a whole 80m
The average human walking speed is 1.4m a second (5kph) yes many slower and many quicker etc, but for the average person the additional walking is just 82 seconds, not as you say at least 5 minutes.

I understand itís a busy road but that section on the London road does have the widest pavement I have seen in Liphook so itís not a terrifying precipice.
Radford park is used for walking etc, a loop and being able to make a loop is irrelevant, busy road or not, unless you have serious OCD regarding completing a loop and or not walking back on your route and if you donít like the road donít use it and just walk back on yourself as itís still a walk! plus Radford still has a number of other bridges for you to make a loop on.

I may well be wrong on the costs, but am very sure itís not going to be in the hundreds to design & build to the required public safety standards. To the nearest 10k its going to pass 10k easy and maybe even 20k, a new kitchen for 15k uses less wood and it does not need to be as structurally sound to hold in excess of a dozen people etc.

My primary points are;

1. No one is stranded due to the lack of that bridge, such statements are just silly
2. Is it really worth the money to replace it?

The country has been tightening its belt for years and looking at the current scene playing out it might need to tighten some more, do we really need to spank this money on an unnecessary bridge? Its not like the A3 bridge, The car bridge over the trainline or indeed the footbridge to get to the other platform at the station, its just something we liked, that's sadly now gone.. must it be replaced at the expense of something we might actually need?

I think not

Re: Radford Park Bridge
- helen (12th Aug 2018 †09:43:21)

The last estimate I heard was in the region of 100k possible final costs. I do believe the Parish Council have commissioned a new bridge to be built now.

Re: Radford Park Bridge
- Jane Ives (12th Aug 2018 †11:17:11)

It is nowhere near £100k. The money is coming from developer's contributions.

Jane

Re: Radford Park Bridge
- Alan (12th Aug 2018 †11:41:59)

altonherald.com/article....

£60,000 is quite close, to be honest.

Re: Radford Park Bridge
- Gr (12th Aug 2018 †13:48:47)

Somebodys taking the p with costs like that !

Oak is approc £700 cubic m fresh sawn £10k max mayerials weeks work timber frame company

Hope contract goes to LOCAL company

I suggest until actual figures given out we dont make up nonsense

Hopefully the council will be open and honest


Darn pigs just flew over liphook

Re: Radford Park Bridge
- Jane Ives (12th Aug 2018 †14:16:02)

Except that article isn't completely accurate. The Council applied for developers contributions of about £58k to cover the cost as they didn't know exactly how much it would be. Just before I stepped down from the council (last week) the cost was coming in at a fair bit less than that. The final design hasn't been approved yet but it's almost there.
Jane

Re: Radford Park Bridge
- SteveA (12th Aug 2018 †18:14:43)

Better to spend the money reinforcing the bank by the bridge at the other end of Radford Park as when that collapses it will have a much bigger impact on all who enjoy walking round the park.

Re: Radford Park Bridge
- Paul Robinson (12th Aug 2018 †19:46:08)

Mike

Your anal measurements and timings, leave aside your hopelessly inaccurate estimates of replacement costs, do not take account of the obvious fact that the bridge is, and always was, an integral part of the park since it was created from an unusable piece of bog land that had been used as a general dumping ground.

Would you use the same argument if the Hindhead Tunnel was done away with?

I for one will be pleased to see the replacement bridge which precludes the need for dog walkers and parents with push chairs having to leave the park and walk along the pavement to re-enter at the north gate.

I sincerely hope that when the work is completed the large slab of concrete that was part of the original bridge is taken away.

Paul Robinson


Re: Radford Park Bridge
- Helen (12th Aug 2018 †19:50:57)

I think that there will always be a hung jury on whether a new bridge is really worth spending many thousands on,
who ever is providing the money, although wood looks
more natural than metal will not last as long
.

Re: Radford Park Bridge
- Mike (12th Aug 2018 †20:32:00)

Ooof ! 60k!

I suppose its already underway and if its the developers cash then fair enough.

Re: Radford Park Bridge
- Chris (12th Aug 2018 †20:39:14)

Jane Ives, you slipped that in quietly, why have you stepped down??

Re: Radford Park Bridge
- Mandi (12th Aug 2018 †21:20:32)

Hahaha anal measurements lol

Re: Radford Park Bridge
- Mike (12th Aug 2018 †22:47:16)

Disappointed my attempt at accuracy is described as anal Paul, itís a bit prejudicial and insulting, is that how to talk to people normally? To people whom research a question and come back with better information? which in this case the information was related directly to previous comments of ďstrandedĒ and ďitís in excess of 5 minutes walkĒ so measuring a distance was relevant.

And yes, my costs were terrible, but it turns out the real cost is actually fivefold my estimates which only goes to reinforce my question of worth, but itís all just hot air now, the bridge has been decided upon and paid for out of developer money so I welcome it.

The builders and designers will be using cmís or inches etc to properly measure every part the bridge, I suppose thatís terribly anal of them to do so Paul?

Re: Radford Park Bridge
- Jane Ives (12th Aug 2018 †22:56:15)

Chris if you want to see why I resigned please see the Liphook Herald last week. I am very saddened and disappointed and hope that a new and refreshed parish council will be elected in May - one that the community deserves.

I've tried to find a link to the article online but can't find it. Happy to respond by email to jives68@gmail.com

Jane

Re: Radford Park Bridge
- Diane (13th Aug 2018 †12:43:10)

Oh good, there is going to be a new bridge so Mothers Fathers Grandparents and children can all have their memories of time spent in the park playing poo sticks and gazing into the water looking for non-existent fish. Happy Days

Re: Radford Park Bridge
- liz (13th Aug 2018 †14:10:05)

Who would want to live in Liphook when everyone is so miserable!

Re: Radford Park Bridge
- Gill (13th Aug 2018 †15:35:11)

I hope that all the people on this thread, volunteer, & attend meetings in the Village. Every councillor is a volunteer, essentially doing their bit for the village they live in. Every organisation that I have come into contact with are needing people to volunteer. I think that what I have just read is so unnecessary and very sad.

Re: Radford Park Bridge
- A.Ryan (13th Aug 2018 †17:06:17)

Oh dear Jane, how sad. you were one of the good guys. I haven't seen the Herald so do not know anything.

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