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Don Cook Memorial Bench - David Lambert (12th Jul 2018 - 19:51:38) Hello to you all, I now have the TREASURERS ACCOUNT with Lloyds bank up and running. Account Title :: BENCH FUND. Please contact me for details You can either make your donation by Bank Transfer call into your local bank or by Cheque. If you send your donation by cheque please make the cheque payable to BENCH FUND and forward to me. Mr. D Lambert, 100 Gunns Farm, Liphook, Hampshire, GU30 7HL Tel. No.01428 724534. E :: davelbwlambert@gmail.com Not everyone has a computer so if you know anyone who you think would like to make a donation and doesn't have a computer please give them my details Very many thanks for your support and I look forward to receiving your donations. Please note this account is the only way to donate so please don't send your money to Facebook or anywhere else. Very many thanks, Regards, Dave Lambert.

Re: Don Cook Memorial Bench - Elizabeth (13th Jul 2018 - 20:42:56) Don't we need an account number to do a bank transfer and/or a sort code?

Re: Don Cook Memorial Bench - Boris (13th Jul 2018 - 23:05:19) Where is the bench to be situated? In numerous talks with Don before he passed away, he mentioned that years ago there was a bench situated to the left of the front of the shop, but it was removed by Council. It was his wish that such a bench could be reinstated in the original position to give rest to passing members of the public.

Re: Don Cook Memorial Bench - David Lambert (14th Jul 2018 - 08:31:31) Hi Elizabeth, I have been advised to not publish the bank details as it leaves the account open to fraud. If you wish to make a donation then would you please send me your Landline number and address so I have a record. When I receive your number and address I will phone you and give you the bank details. This has already been done and the other donators have agreed. I appreciate that you might not want to give me your details that's fine all you need to do is send me a cheque and make it payable to BENCH FUND. Many thanks, Regards, Dave L... . Dave, you could set up a justgiving account to allow people to donate that way.

Re: Don Cook Memorial Bench - David Lambert (14th Jul 2018 - 08:37:11) Hi Boris, The bench will be outside the Lazy Lizard tearooms in the Square. Mr. Dave Nicol who is the owner has kindly given permission for the bench to go on his property. It will be right next door to Don's workshop, things could not have worked out better. I await you kind donation. Regards, Dave L... .

Re: Don Cook Memorial Bench - David Lambert (16th Jul 2018 - 19:33:19) Please read the above post. Don Cook served our village for over fifty years and he deserves to be honoured.

Re: Don Cook Memorial Bench - Anon (16th Jul 2018 - 22:02:10) If you read the June minutes from the Parish Council that are putting a plaque to Don on a bench in Radford Park.

Re: Don Cook Memorial Bench - Rφlli (17th Jul 2018 - 09:41:49) Great idea Dave, he was a lovely man and deserves to be remembered right in the heart of Liphook where he worked for a lifetime.

Re: Don Cook Memorial Bench - David Lambert (17th Jul 2018 - 15:21:47) Message for Anon. I went to that meeting and the council where not very helpful. We were told that the council would donate a plague and put it on a bench up the recreation ground . As Don never went up to the Rec we thought it not a good idea so have gone down another route. Since then I have had an offer to put the bench on private ground in the village centre which we have accepted when we have received enough money and purchased the said bench. Your donation would be very helpful. Kind regards, Dave L... .

Re: Don Cook Memorial Bench - Judy (17th Jul 2018 - 19:05:04) Hi Dave What a lovely idea! I remember my Grandad often sitting on the bench that used to be there and I would go along and sit with him.

Re: Don Cook Memorial Bench - David Lambert (19th Jul 2018 - 16:50:09) Still awaiting your donations. Any donation large all small is very welcome. Many thanks. Dave L... ...

Re: Don Cook Memorial Bench - David Lambert (22nd Jul 2018 - 20:47:12) Sorry to keep on plugging this. Don was a loyal servant to our/your village so please dig deep. The population of Liphook is 8000 plus so if everyone just donated 10 pence yes 10 pence we would raise £800:00 plus job done. Many thanks, Dave Lambert.

Re: Don Cook Memorial Bench - Jane (23rd Jul 2018 - 12:16:41) Hi Can you publish bank account details please to transfer. Many Thanks for arranging

Re: Don Cook Memorial Bench - David Lambert (23rd Jul 2018 - 15:15:08) Message for Jane, So as to not leave the account open to fraud please phone me with your name and address for my records and I will give you the bank transfer details. All the people that have sent a donation by bank transfer have done this with no problem. I can then also keep you posted as to how we are doing. I appreciate you might not want to do that if this is the case just forward me a cheque, Many thanks, Regards, Dave L... ..

Re: Don Cook Memorial Bench - Ben (23rd Jul 2018 - 16:57:51) Way too complicated to try and donate. Why not just set up just giving account?

Re: Don Cook Memorial Bench - John (23rd Jul 2018 - 17:35:22) Second the just giving idea, very easy to setup, set target, shows amount donated and by whom, easy to transact with/pay into and has full visibility, rather than some account that we need to both call someone to get the process started or to know what the current total is, to attend a bank, post a cheque (do we still have those?) etc etc.

Re: Don Cook Memorial Bench - Boris (23rd Jul 2018 - 20:29:47) Unfortunately have to agree. Method of donation has to be easier or donations are not going to come in for a worthwhile project.

Re: Don Cook Memorial Bench - Jane (23rd Jul 2018 - 20:38:11) Hi Dave Do appreciate what you are doing but do think a link to justgiving or similar or publishing bank details is easier to get donations - there is no risk to publishing them. I don't do cheques anymore! Cheers Jane

Re: Don Cook Memorial Bench - Helen (23rd Jul 2018 - 21:33:29) I agree with not giving bank details online but just giving is a lot easier than the way Dave is doing things.

Re: Don Cook Memorial Bench - David Lambert (23rd Jul 2018 - 21:40:15) Message to Ben, John, Boris and Jane. The way that I have done this is the way I was advised. The very first post had all the details and I was advised to remove them to prevent fraud. I have had donations by this method if as you say it's to much hassle then just email me your telephone number and I will contact you as all donations are precious. When I have your details I will keep you up to date as to how much has been raised etc. I look forward to you contacting me, Kind regards, Dave L... ..

Re: Don Cook Memorial Bench - Amy (24th Jul 2018 - 08:49:42) Dave, I think your idea has 2 major flaws, both centred around the age of people living in Liphook. The first is that (however much the older generation dislike it) the village has had a large influx of younger couples and families due to recent housing developments. These people didn't know Don and have no lovely memories of him. Whilst I appreciate this is sad, it's the way of the world I'm afraid. The second is the way in which people handle their finances these days. Young adults do not use cheques and never have (when I say 'young' I'm talking up to people in their early 30s!) The younger generation like ease when it comes to money - I guarantee you would make more money by setting up a justgiving page as those who are in 2 minds will be much more likely to donate via a few clicks than they will by contacting you and making a bank transfer. I also think you'd be more likely to get people who didn't know Don to donate a few pounds this way too. No one is debating the great thing you are trying to do but the way you are asking for money just simply isn't the way people do things anymore and I think that's reflected in your lack of donations.

Re: Don Cook Memorial Bench - liz (24th Jul 2018 - 11:37:20) Amy I suspect the fundraising is targeted at people who have lived in the village for some time and knew Mr Cook well. For those who don't wish to use cheques (or cash!) there is the option of a direct transfer.

Re: Don Cook Memorial Bench - Ben (24th Jul 2018 - 11:57:15) Liz Why should it be targeted at people that have lived in the village for some time or who knew Mr Cook to donate? Just because I haven't lived in the village for as long as some does not make a blind bit of difference to donating.

Re: Don Cook Memorial Bench - David Lambert (24th Jul 2018 - 12:52:16) Hello to you all, Many thanks for your very kind donation they are much appreciated and slowly we are getting there. For the purpose of this message it is for Ben, John, Boris, Jane and Helen. I will name you the futile five. I took on this task simply to raise money to honour Mr. Don Cook who served our village from 1959/2017 a total of 58 years and in my humble opinion should get some recognition As you futile five think I am doing things wrong it would have been nice if one of you had the courtesy to contact me either by email or phone rather then criticise me on social media for all the world to see and you haven't got the guts to tell me and the website who you are. I am not sure what your agenda is but it has upset me and I am bloody annoyed. I was advised to set up the treasures account and when I released the first post it had the account details and within minutes I received an email advising me to remove the details so as prevent possible fraud and that is what I have done. I have had a number of people that have sent in there donations via bank transfer and they don't think it was too much of a chore. If you futile five think that you can do a better job I am more than happy to let you take over. My only goal was to raise enough money to have bench in Don's memory. Why is it when somebody tries to do some good people have to find fault. Dave Lambert. Just to confirm David, your original post to liphook.uk did not have the account details. They have never been 'removed' from liphook.uk. On the 14th July I also suggested you should set up a justgiving account. You have never given the 'target' amount you are looking for.

Re: Don Cook Memorial Bench - Kate (24th Jul 2018 - 13:08:28) Q. What is stopping a fraudster calling Dave and getting the account details? or a fraudster emailing Dave to get the account details? A. Nothing Just giving is; - Certain to boost the donations. - Certain to give credit to the names of those whom donate. - Certain to provide transparency. - Certain to permit those outside the village even abroad a chance to donate. - Certain to show the target/aims Instead we have steadfast determination to make it a process from 40 years ago, a process which so many have clearly said they don't want to engage in and a process which so far isnt getting enough money in to make this good idea work. I commend Dave's idea greatly, but not his current stewardship of it as ideas to assist/contribute are pouring in from the community and they are being batted away.

Re: Don Cook Memorial Bench - liz (24th Jul 2018 - 13:42:53) Oh Ben please don't be so ridiculous. Like David I am not sure what this nit picking is trying to prove.

Re: Don Cook Memorial Bench - Helen (24th Jul 2018 - 14:16:04) Dave you are not coming across very well for a fundraiser. I SUPPORTED you not giving bank details but you have just lost a donation.

Re: Don Cook Memorial Bench - David Lambert (24th Jul 2018 - 15:32:49) Dear Editor, You are correct the bank details went out on Facebook sorry for my mistake. No target has been set as soon as we get to an amount that will purchase a very substantial bench I will let you all know. I would like to think that £700/£800 would be enough. I have had some brochures sent to me and that is a ball park figure. At this moment in time the amount the good people of Liphook have sent to me is just over £300. So we are going in the right direction. Dave Lambert.

Re: Don Cook Memorial Bench - Boris (24th Jul 2018 - 15:51:03) Dave referring to a number of us as futile five is not the way to go about getting donations is it? The cost of the bench is not a train smash. I am certain that in the context of what the bench is for it is quite possible that one person would make a donation to cover the total cost. BUT you need to seriously rethink the way in which you are going about it..

Re: Don Cook Memorial Bench - Ben (24th Jul 2018 - 16:43:59) I am sorry if I came across in a negative way and I applaud the effort you have put in trying to get donations. My initial argument was merely by making it easier for people to donate you will get more donations.

Re: Don Cook Memorial Bench - Elizabeth (24th Jul 2018 - 16:52:40) What a shame! Such a lovely idea turned sour. For those of you wishing to donate using a Just Giving Page - why not set one up and DONATE rather than moan about methods. Combine the two strands/methods of donating and voila we are all happy, Don is honoured (this current thread is not honouring to his memory) and the village has a new bench. Simples

Re: Don Cook Memorial Bench - liz (24th Jul 2018 - 16:56:35) Ed David has said he is looking for £800. What is to stop a fraudster setting up a Just Giving account?

Re: Don Cook Memorial Bench - Diane (24th Jul 2018 - 17:16:50) In days gone by there would have been box's or tins in the shops in the village for donations for Don, alas nowadays they just get stolen. Perhaps the 2 coffee shops could have a secure box for donations.

Re: Don Cook Memorial Bench - d (24th Jul 2018 - 17:22:36) Oh dear Helen. Just go get the rattle you have thrown out of your cot. I'm sure this was put together by Mr Lambert all in good faith but as with so many events in this village there are a number of people who feel; they can do things better but instead just go out of their way to rock the boat.

Re: Don Cook Memorial Bench - David Lambert (24th Jul 2018 - 21:20:40) I have had a Just Giving Account looked into and there are fees involved. For example if they collect £1000:00. Just giving Fee 5% £ 50:00 Processing cost 1.25% £ 12:50. Net Total £ 937:50.. By doing it by my method should we collect a £1000:00 we will have a £1000:00. So in my book it is a no brainer why on earth would you give away £62:50. I am now very pleased that I never went down that route. If you send a donation by my method I make NO CHARGES the whole amount goes into the fund. I hope this answers your questions as to why I have not set up a Just Giving Account. I expect someone will have a different view. Dave Lambert.

Re: Don Cook Memorial Bench - John (24th Jul 2018 - 23:24:42) I only made a suggestion to assist as I think many others did, everyone is entitled to their views and I respect them all even if I was added to the futile 5. I see no reason why you should be upset or frustrated about it David, nor do i see any reason why some others are suggesting there is some agenda. I have re read everything and almost of it falls under fair comment and contribution a collective willingness to help. I do suspect if you do use just giving then its better to look at the positive outcome of the 95% cash gained, especially when throughout this post you have at least half a dozen people saying they want a just giving idea and as yet no one clearly saying they have donated by the method you setup. At least with a just giving link it could spread like wildfire through this site, emails, and social media in the village instead of call David, and arrange a payment method you might not be familiar with. If you did get a Net Total £ 937:50 then why be upset that it cost 5% to do so, I mean you are still chasing for donations, why would another revenue stream be so bad, your method involves a call or email and a cheque or bank transfer, it does not use MasterCard; Visa Credit Card; Visa Electron; Visa Debit (or Visa Delta); Switch / Maestro; PayPal etc etc. Good luck with this great idea, you asked for donations got some along with suggestions, it not a bad thing and no one should be upset about it.

Re: Don Cook Memorial Bench - Anon (24th Jul 2018 - 23:56:20) Thanks Dave for doing this. I assume that it will cost you a stamp or two or a trip to the bank to pay in cheques if you get any, Thanks too for your explanation re costs of Just Giving page.

Re: Don Cook Memorial Bench - liz (25th Jul 2018 - 10:33:07) John You obviously read selectively and missed the bit about the "older generation" disliking the large influx of younger couples and families. A very odd and quite unpleasant comment and certainly not representative. It would be interesting to know how much the new houses have changed the demographic of the village but I suggest it is not as straightforward as: 'existing Liphook resident = old, new Liphook resident = young!' Not to mention someone else taking offence when I dared to suggest that the fund raising might (logically) be targeted at those who has known Mr Cook.

Re: Don Cook Memorial Bench - Rφlli (25th Jul 2018 - 11:23:24) Oh for goodness sake lets get back to the original post. Don was a lovely man who worked for many decades in the heart of the village. Dave simply wanted to DO SOMETHING POSITIVE to recognise the fact that Don for many of us who knew him, was a special part of the village. Dave has chosen to do things the way he has, if you want to donate, good, do it. If you have any questions you can PM Dave, he has given details and is a well known to many in the village, if you do not, you really do not need to contribute to this post

Re: Don Cook Memorial Bench - Julie Culverhouse (25th Jul 2018 - 18:14:12) I think what you are doing is amazing and very thoughtful. If people want to donate you have given your details in the first post and not very difficult at all to make the donations by that source. You are doing a great job, well done.

Re: Don Cook Memorial Bench - David Lambert (25th Jul 2018 - 21:44:12) -Rolli, I may know you and I may not but many thanks for your post and support it is very much appreciated. I have known Don for over sixty years, three years or so before he came to Liphook not only did he repair my football and cricket boots and always did a fantastic job but he was a gentleman and friend. I must be honest I never thought I would get so much grief but I am made of strong stuff and I will not give in. I have told you all I will keep you as to how things are progressing we now have £350:00 in the fund so nearly halfway. And NO commission to pay. Please keep sending your donations so as we can get to our target and I can then stop pestering you all. Many thanks, Dave L... ...

Re: Don Cook Memorial Bench - David Lambert (26th Jul 2018 - 08:56:42) -Elizabeth many thanks for your post. As you may have read I am not interested in a Just Giving Account simply because I object to loosing a chunk of money for the privilege as I have already explained. Also as I read that if you donate all amounts are for all to see unless you donate anonymously. I may be old fashioned but I think all donations should be private and kept that way. Just one more thing to make a donation you have to be on Facebook now there are a lot of people out there that have not got Facebook and also don't even use a computer this being the case what do they do. That is why I set up the Treasures Account. Let's hope this puts and to the matter. I await you generous donations. Regards, Dave L... .

Re: Don Cook Memorial Bench - Mike (26th Jul 2018 - 14:40:53) £937.50 via JustGiving + £62.50 in fees = 1 memorial bench £350.00 via telephone calls/email/cheques/bank transfers/carrier pigeon + £0.00 in fees = 0 memorial bench The figures above are obviously examples, but the point (as others have tried to say) is you'll raise more money with a JustGiving page running alongside other methods. It's better to lose a bit of money in fees and achieve your end goal than not achieve it at all. You don't have to be on Facebook to donate via JustGiving.

Re: Don Cook Memorial Bench - k (26th Jul 2018 - 15:54:41) Sorry don't understand just giving Will be sending my cheque soon , it is only a small amount but better than nothing - we don't al do or trust online banking - phone transfers - IF YOU WANT TO DDONATE YOU WILL - Thanks for all your hard work

Re: Don Cook Memorial Bench - liz (26th Jul 2018 - 16:08:02) David has said he is not interested in setting up a Just Giving account. How about giving him a bit of support!

Re: Don Cook Memorial Bench - Who (26th Jul 2018 - 16:42:58) What is a cheque? Not sure many people under 30 (35?) have ever paid anyone using them!

Re: Don Cook Memorial Bench - Tom (26th Jul 2018 - 17:59:14) David, Are the contributors going to be credited in some fashion? i.e of the £350 already raised do you know all their names and would they be mentioned either here or during the reveal? Clearly this is your baby so you will be top of the list but am sure they would appreciate a mention over and above a "thanks to all"

Re: Don Cook Memorial Bench - David Lambert (26th Jul 2018 - 19:36:31) Mike, I don't wish to be rude but don't you understand plain English. I am not interested in a Just Giving Account. If you are so keen may I suggest that you or one of your supporters open a Just Giving account and I will return all the generous donations that I have so far received and that most certainly will be a kick in the teeth to those lovely people and Don Cook. All I ask is please stop ranting on about this Just Giving account. You can donate with my method for which I will be very grateful. CHEQUE, BANK TRANSFER or CASH I can assure it is very easy. Dave Lambert.

Re: Don Cook Memorial Bench - Boris (26th Jul 2018 - 21:30:10) How much money are you hoping to raise? How much have you already received? Will donations that are received in excess of what the bench will cost be refunded?

Re: Don Cook Memorial Bench - David Lambert (26th Jul 2018 - 21:52:59) Tom In answer to your question. Yes I have a record of all that have donated. CASH, CHEQUE & BANK TRANSFER. Give me a bit of credit. When the target is reached and the bench is purchased I will give a list of all who have sent donations but the amount that each person has donated as far as I am concerned is not for the public it is private. I hope this answers your question. Dave L... ..

Re: Don Cook Memorial Bench - Ian (26th Jul 2018 - 22:56:45) Tom - you are a complete and utter plank! The bench is to remember Don, not those that need to have their ego supported before they support a cause. Unbelievable!!!

Re: Don Cook Memorial Bench - David Lambert (27th Jul 2018 - 07:16:04) Tom and Boris. Tom just to inform you about your comment I will not be at the top of the list as your sarcastic jibe suggested. Boris if you look on the post from myself on 24th July 15;32;49 you will see the amount clearly written If I have any of the donations remaining it will go to a charity of Don's nieces choice. I hope that is all right with you and everyone else. Can we all now start to pull in the same direction and stop all this bickering. Unfortunately you can't turn the clock back if I could I would never have started this. I have lived in this village for nearly sixty years and I am very disappointed with some of our residents and there comments.. Please keep sending your valuable donations the sooner I reach the required target the better. I can then get some peace. Regards, Dave Lambert.

Re: Don Cook Memorial Bench - Anon (27th Jul 2018 - 10:09:24) As Oscar Wilde said, "The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about."

Re: Don Cook Memorial Bench - Tom (27th Jul 2018 - 13:43:34) Ian, Thanks for the standard forum over reaction and weak insult, I only mentioned what I mentioned as studies have shown that more people give to charity and give more money when there is some form of credit given to them for doing so, and I only asked because it hadn't been mentioned however, David has addressed it and hopefully it will boost his totals. I guess like so much of the comment on this thread anything to help/contribute/assist is being misread as an argument etc, its frankly insane how people are misreading almost every post within and quickly jumping in a rage about it. Well done David, keep it up

Re: Don Cook Memorial Bench - Ian (27th Jul 2018 - 14:16:29) Tom, no matter what response you make to justify, your contribution was puerile and pointless!

Re: Don Cook Memorial Bench - Tom (27th Jul 2018 - 15:08:14) Ian, This is forum discussing and contributing assisting David to honor the memory of Don Cook and so far your only contribution is to have a go at others and trade insults, can you attempt to retain some decency please and stop lowering the tone.

Re: Don Cook Memorial Bench - Ian (27th Jul 2018 - 20:52:53) Tom, if your original post is your idea of assisting then think I will pass.

Re: Don Cook Memorial Bench - Helen (28th Jul 2018 - 07:41:03) At least your replies have not been as insulting as was the reply to me!

Re: Don Cook Memorial Bench - David Lambert (29th Jul 2018 - 21:31:17) Just bringing it back to the top of the list. Keep spreading the word. Many thanks, Dave L... ..

Re: Don Cook Memorial Bench - Mike (29th Jul 2018 - 22:14:57) Whats the current total David?

Re: Don Cook Memorial Bench - David Lambert (30th Jul 2018 - 09:07:59) Mike. At this time I have received £520:00. I am very happy with that as it is only just over two weeks from the start of this journey. Still a way to go Mike if you would like to donate that would be very nice.. Please keep on spreading the word. Many thanks to you all, Regards, Dave L... ...

Re: Don Cook Memorial Bench - Lizzy (30th Jul 2018 - 19:58:41) I popped a cheque round to the very lovely Lambert couple. When I say popped, we chatted for such a long time, such a lovely genuine couple. I really hope that the good people of Liphook can make up the amount Dave needs, Don should not be forgotten ever. Please do it. Lizzy

Re: Don Cook Memorial Bench - SteveA (31st Jul 2018 - 08:49:04) For what it's worth, I have used this company in the past for memorial benches and have found them to be good value for money. www.4memorialbench.co.uk/... Depending on the style and size of bench, you probably aren't that far from what you need.

Re: Don Cook Memorial Bench - David Lambert (31st Jul 2018 - 16:35:03) I have today received a donation from Mrs. K M Marsh. Please could you give me a call when convenient. My number :: 01428//724534. Many thanks, Dave Lambert....

Re: Don Cook Memorial Bench - Daniel (6th Aug 2018 - 20:09:03) Dave I wasn’t going to say anything but I’ve read this entire thread in one go and I couldn’t help myself. Don is my partners Great Uncle and a very close and dearly missed relative. Not a day goes by that she and the family don’t miss him and his wife Mable. Firstly Dave, I want to say thank you for organising this and taking it upon yourself to spread the word. Personally, and I believe I can speak on behalf of the family, I don’t give two hoots how you get the money. All that matters is it gets collected. I appreciate everyone has an opinion but please everyone, don’t sour this lovely idea with online keyboard worrier arguments. Please support this, regardless of your opinion of the process. Personal opinions aside, this is for someone who meant a lot to a lot of people, how it’s done is secondary to that point. Thanks.

Re: Don Cook Memorial Bench - Lizzy (6th Aug 2018 - 21:59:17) How close are you to reaching the fund you need? I, amongst other good people of Liphook MUST be able to get the funds required. Come on Liphook!

Re: Don Cook Memorial Bench - David Lambert (7th Aug 2018 - 16:24:37) Hi Daniel, Many thanks for your letter of support it is very much appreciated. Regards, Dave L... . PS message for Lizzie I have pm you.

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