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No Parking by Cricket Club
- Carolyn (16th Apr 2018  09:50:53)

Anyone know what the 'No Parking' signs in the lane down to the Cricket Club is all about? Not sure it is enforceable anyway, but walkers have been parking there for many years without obstructing access to the club, so why the anti-social signs now? To park in the small layby nearby and walk to the gate is dangerous because of the speed of the traffic.

Re: No Parking by Cricket Club
- Debbie (16th Apr 2018  13:02:56)

Hi Carolyn,
This is from Liphook Rants.
"Laurence Fiddler I am replying on behalf of Liphook and Ripsley Cricket Club to confirm that the track does belong to us and we put up the no parking signs. There have been no parking signs at the top of the track since it was constructed but they are quite small and tended to be ignored. The number of cars using the track has increased steadily over the years, which has caused a lot of wear. The drop down from the road has become steep enough to potentially cause damage to the underside of cars turning off the road onto the track. We repaired some of worst problems last weekend and we had to pay for the materials. Also, because of the increased usage, cars have increasingly been parked in such a way to make access to our ground more difficult. This is particularly true for bigger vehicles that need to gain access, such as delivery lorries and those carrying equipment to work on our ground. I hope this explains why we put up the signs. Thanks"

Re: No Parking by Cricket Club
- Carolyn (17th Apr 2018  10:05:07)

Thank you. I thought that might be the case, but it now puts a lot of dog walkers in a very difficult position, as you are denying safe access to the gate into that end of Chapel Common. I don't like walking the other end when the cows are back as I don't trust them. Might we be able to do a bit of crowd funding to pay for the lane to be properly repaired? I would be prepared to contribute.

Re: No Parking by Cricket Club
- Gail (17th Apr 2018  14:56:55)

I agree with Carolyn's comments and observations. The signs are preventing easy, SAFE, access to Chapel Common and I too avoid the "cow" area during the warmer months.
I have used this parking area in a responsible way for almost 5 years and now feel slightly cheated, out of, as mentioned above, a safe access.
How about the club introducing Parking permits? A sign could then be put up indicating this is a private road and only permit holders are allowed to park responsibly in say 4/5 parking spots. A monthly fee could be charged of say £10 per month? Over a year this could generate an income towards maintenance.

Re: No Parking by Cricket Club
- Penny (17th Apr 2018  17:07:46)

Debbie stated in her very polite post that there have been No Parking Signs albeit small since the track was constructed. However small I find it hard to believe that no one had seen them. It always amazes me why people think they have the right to park on privately owned land and then feel cheated when the landowner takes action – in this case erecting larger signs. To call this anti social is completely out of order – I wonder how many of the complainants would feel if they owned land and people parked on it illegally for whatever reason. In addition Debbie states that because of increased usage the track is being damaged and the increased number of cars are making access to the cricket ground difficult. I completely understand and agree with the cricket club’s actions and I don’t think permits would work. Who would monitor them and would fines be issued for transgressors? – I don’t think so - and why would the Cricket Club want the hassle?

Re: No Parking by Cricket Club
- Debbie (17th Apr 2018  20:19:09)

Hi Penny,
I just copy and pasted the reply left by Laurence Fiddler on the Liphook rants website so I can’t take the credit for a “very polite post”

Re: No Parking by Cricket Club
- Gail (18th Apr 2018  16:03:33)

I find it hard to believe and it amazes me that there is always someone out there waiting to stick their oar in about something that does not touch their lives.
The original person who initiated this thread pointed out the inconveniences and the very real aspect of SAFETY. She did it in a nice reasonable way and even offered to make a donation.
But nooooo this goes over the heads of some readers and her use of words is nit picked ! Such a pity.
And the problem still exists.

Re: No Parking by Cricket Club
- Sarah (18th Apr 2018  18:26:15)

I have parked at this end of Chapel Common and did not realise it was part of a private drive. While it may be dangerous to park in the layby; us walkers do not have to access Chapel common here, we do have the option of parking at the main entrance. I think it is perfectly reasonable for the owners of this land to object to people parking on their land and obstructing their access. Imagine if it was your drive someone parked across to enable access to go for a nice walk?!!

Re: No Parking by Cricket Club
- Mary W (21st Apr 2018  14:55:55)

Thanks to the editor for redirecting my submission to the correct post.

The area is not really quite the same as the entry to a private house, none of those dog walkers would park in someone’s drive. That is a ridiculous argument.

I wouldn’t have thought that parking at that entrance was doing much harm, we usually live and let live in the country. I wonder why the gate to the drive was originally set so far down the track? The original owner of the land must have realised that the public would pull off there. Maybe he was quite happy for us to stop for short periods, nobody is there for long.

It’s all a great shame, not being quite as mobile as I was, I really enjoyed a short stroll in a quiet area which was easily accessible.

Re: No Parking by Cricket Club
- A.R (21st Apr 2018  17:49:03)

I went up to the Chapel common today. I dutifully parked in the layby and found it quite dangerous as the speed of traffic is off putting if you have more than one dog. Having children too would be a nightmare.
Surely the cricket ground gate was set further down to allow access to the common. There is an access gate for vehicles and a gate for pedestrians so access must have been agreed at some time as why would they be there ? If there was a fire this end they would clearly have to get to it from this side.
I have been going to this common for at least six years and walk from this side. How on earth do you expect older people or those with young children to get to this part without quite a long walk from the field end?
I can see there will be accidents here without the parking facility.
As it turns out I had no option but to use this area to turn round as I was not going all the way down the dual carriageway to turn round.
So it slightly defeated the object.
My father played cricket for Liphook in the 60's so I do like cricket but it seems slightly unfair that an area used mostly for two days a week can not share this piece of land for the safety of dogs and walkers.

Re: No Parking by Cricket Club
- lac (21st Apr 2018  19:57:27)

I think its a shame the landowners have taken this step. They do, of course, have every right to do this but Liphook Cricket Club is a community based club and enjoy the good will of people in the local area. I can't see how taking this action does anything but reduce the good will of locals. Perhaps I'm missing something but the reasons given for restricting parking seem petty. I'm sure other solutions could have been found. I guess the management are not dog owners!

Re: No Parking by Cricket Club
- oldie (21st Apr 2018  21:06:14)

Hi, to those scared to use the laybys on Portsmouth Road (which I can understand) there are quite a few laybys on the very quiet lane (sorry, don't know its name) to the west side of Chapel Common, it's a nicer spot to stop and it may work for you if the cricket club don't relent and let us ditch our wheels by their entrance again!

Re: No Parking by Cricket Club
- Jayfin (22nd Apr 2018  11:01:59)

Making short stops for a stroll here, I always respected the notice requesting that we don’t block the gates.

This notice implies that parking in this area is accepted. The owners have not closed the area to traffic once a year which they should have done if they wish to prevent the public from gaining a statutory right to use it.

Any retired solicitors out there prepared to test it in the courts if we are clamped?

Re: No Parking by Cricket Club
- Annie (24th Apr 2018  12:55:32)

People seem to be parking here again.....??!!

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