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Station Road / Portsmouth Road Junction - Paul Robinson (11th Dec 2012 - 09:34:52) At long last the Parish Council is pleased to announce that in conjuction with the Police and Hampshire Highways we have at last got double yellow lines on the approach to the Station Road junction with the Portsmouth Road. Paul Robinson

Re: Station Road / Portsmouth Road Junction - Ian (11th Dec 2012 - 10:24:25) Paul, Am pleased to see some meaningful engagement on talkback from the Parish Council regarding parking restrictions in the village. So I do have to ask how it is that we have completely contrary input from another member on this particular thread: Re: Traffic Bedlam - Headley Road - Dawn Hoskins (23rd Nov 2012 18:01:26)

Re: Station Road / Portsmouth Road Junction - rita (11th Dec 2012 - 10:41:51) that was a long time comming, but its good news. when i used to go to work that way i saw quite a few near misses. dont get why cars have to park there anyway. all the residents have got parking spaces at the back of the propertys. maybe its commuters. i saw a couple of wing mirrors damaged too.

Re: Station Road / Portsmouth Road Junction - Dave (11th Dec 2012 - 10:43:25) Now perhaps the junction of Tunbridge Crescent with Headley Road.

Re: Station Road / Portsmouth Road Junction - Richard (11th Dec 2012 - 11:20:39) Why don't we have parking restrictions on every road in Liphook so no-one can park anywhere convenient! :)

Re: Station Road / Portsmouth Road Junction - Dawn Hoskins (11th Dec 2012 - 15:18:09) Dear Ian, When we post on this site, we post as ‘Dawn Hoskins, or ‘Paul Robinson’ or ‘Barbara Easton’ etcetera. We do not post as Councillor Mrs Hoskins or Councillor Mr Robinson. We do not post as Members. Parish Council decisions are decided by 12 councillors voting upon them, and these decisions are published in the minutes and on-line. As individuals we are allowed to have an opinion. I have been a member of this on-line community for a very long time – way before I was a councillor and I have no intention of ceasing to contribute to a debate. The very brilliant thing about the new Parish Council is that personalities do not enter into discussions. We agree – or we disagree, but then we all go to the pub or have coffee etc. The opinion that a person holds does not make that person bad or good. The opinion may be bad - but the person and the opinion are not one in the same. We respect that. Also, as the Police and County are the decision makers regarding yellow lines, I am not really sure why you think my post was in conflict with Paul? p.s. I am very happy that the lines are in place but think that this is probably down to the pressure of the developers and their plans to redesign the whole junction with a roundabout to lead into their new estate. Still, it will be safer if the pinch point is removed so - a good result for the village.

Re: Station Road / Portsmouth Road Junction - liz (12th Dec 2012 - 16:39:19) Richard We could even get commuters to use the station car park... now that WOULD be novel!

Re: Station Road / Portsmouth Road Junction - Richard (12th Dec 2012 - 20:40:45) If the parking at at stations was free then commuters wouldn't feel the need to clog up the roads. Too often parking is seen as a cash cow in this country, not part and parcel of the service delivery. At worst parking could be cost neutral, but too many bodies think that a surplus needs generating from parking and enforcement action, so I suspect this will not catch on.

Re: Station Road / Portsmouth Road Junction - Simon (13th Dec 2012 - 08:28:38) I am sick and tired of motorists using Newtown Road (opposite train station) to park their vehicle before getting on train. It may not be illegal but is a nuisance for residents.

Re: Station Road / Portsmouth Road Junction - Mary W (13th Dec 2012 - 09:31:57) How long before motorists ignore the lines? Have never seen anyone handing out tickets. The huge vehicles blocking the way outside plumbing shop. when deliveries of small items are being made, the vehicles should be small vans, so that the queues don't spread out to main road. What is wrong with people having to walk a short distance delivering stuff, anyway?

Re: Station Road / Portsmouth Road Junction - Peter R (13th Dec 2012 - 16:05:16) Ian was quite right to draw our attention to fact that Dawn Hoskins stated in her posting in the Traffic Bedlam – Headley Road Thread 23 November 2012 that “the parish council have no remit on highways” and to Paul Robinson’s posting in the Station Road/Portsmouth Road Junction Thread 11 December, 2012 when he stated that “At long last The Parish Council is pleased to announce that in conjuction with the Policy and Highways we have at last got double yellow lines on the approach to the Station Road junction with the Portsmouth Road.” These two statements do present a completely different picture of the “remit” of the parish council. I would like to add that in my opinion Dawn Hoskins’ statement about the parish council having no remit was not an opinion but appeared to be a statement of fact in spite of the fact that she referred to it as "her opinion". It was a dismissive posting although it is correct that the parish council do not have actual power or "remit" as she put it, but according to Paul Robinson they do have influence and input and it has worked. Paul Robinson’s attitude in his posting was so much more positive. It is always easier to say that “it's nothing to do with us” or "it's not in our remit" than to actually do something positive such as working and persuading the people who have the power to take action. That is what a good parish council does. They listen to the electorate, take soundbites and then represent the wishes of their electorate by talking, writing and discussing with the "powers that be" and that could be District Council, Hampshire County Council etc etc. Parish Councils are important, they represent the electorate and their input is invaluable providing it is intelligent, well informed and properly researched. There was no need for Dawn Hoskins to say how she, or anyone else post themselves on Liphook Talkback. That is a matter for the individual placing the post to decide nor was it necessary for her to criticise Ian for referring to her as “another member” particularly as he made it clear that it was Dawn Hoskins’ posting to which he referred and when all is said and done, she is a member of the parish council. There was no need for her posting then to descend into a rambling description of the inner workings of the parish council or her superfluous and unnecessary statement that “as individuals we are allowed to have an opinion.” Nor was it necessary her to say that she "had no intention of ceasing to contribute to a debate." No one anywhere has suggested that she or any individual does not have a right to either his/her own opinion or to contribute to a debate. These statements were entirely irrelevant to both Threads. As two Threads are involved I am posting my post on both of them.

Re: Station Road / Portsmouth Road Junction - Dawn Hoskins (14th Dec 2012 - 12:21:49) Dear Peter R and Ian The reason for my post was that we had been referred to as ‘members’ when we post here. I wanted to make it clear that this was not one member going up against another member. I know it may be a boring procedural point – but communications from the Parish Council can only come from the Parish Office so it is important that people do not think that when we post we are passing on a message from the Parish Council. You must think that I was criticizing or negative – however that was not my intention. I was writing to be informative about a particular procedural issue and set the matter straight. I apologise if I have offended. Happy Christmas to everyone.

Re: Station Road / Portsmouth Road Junction - Peter R (14th Dec 2012 - 16:56:32) Dawn I was not offended in any way at all so an apology was not really necessary, but I accept it in the spirit it was given. Leaving aside procedural points which I don't really understand as I have never been a member of a parish council or any other council, the point I was making, was that you were drawing the wrong conclusions from Ian's posting and seemed to be taking things personally. You appeared to think that Ian was implying that you were not entitled to an opinion and that you should not take part in a debate. His posting was not implying either of those things. So all I ask is that you read postings carefully and do not interpret innocent and unbiased statements as being detrimental to yourself.

Re: Station Road / Portsmouth Road Junction - May D (17th Dec 2012 - 10:06:20) why would double yellow make any difference ? i get the bus parking and blocking my drive on the approach to the Liphook station causing an obstruction to cars leaving and entering the station

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