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Speeding past Liphook Golf Club - gen (6th May 2007 - 10:28:21) Talking about speeding near Passfield, I was nearly run down by someone speeding as I crossed the road near the railway bridge the other day. That is a really dangerous place. There are many junior golfers having to cross at that point, and there is only a sign that says Golfers crossing 200 metres. Hardly anyone takes any notice and people crossing have to take their life in their hands. Then they have to walk with trolleys on a tiny path beneath the railway bridge, with lorries and cars passing one another and them, with nowhere to escape if there is an accident, as there will be one day, the speeds they're going at. There is another, equally dangerous crossing point near the Mere entry. There is a huge dip in the road and it is difficult to see or judge the speed of approaching vehicles. I understand that several years ago a small boy was killed and also a golfer. I wonder why the Highway's Department don't at least put some of that red textured tarmac down so at least the offending motorists can't pretend they had no idea that people might be crossing the road?

Re: Speeding past Liphook Golf Club - Rhys G (7th May 2007 - 19:11:13) I drove past there today, and there is a warning sign clearly visible (the big exclamation mark sign). How about one of those snazy flashing signs they seem to be introducing elsewhere!

Re: Speeding past Liphook Golf Club - gen (7th May 2007 - 23:22:52) Still think the idea I heard about, someone tall standing there in a yellow fluorescent coat holding a hair dryer, is the best!

Re: Speeding past Liphook Golf Club - AJ (8th May 2007 - 12:45:21) For the sign, get one that requires solar power so as not to have dig up the road etc, also have one of the speed signs that shows up the cars speed. There was one in the high street in haslemere a while ago. There are some cars that drive very fast through there.

Re: Speeding past Liphook Golf Club - S (8th May 2007 - 13:35:41) A sign with the current speed displayed? Thats a good idea I wonder who will be the first to see if they can get 3 figures? :-) No it should just have the current speed limit displayed . Most of these signs are now only showing the legal limit as there has been a tendancy for people to see what the highest speed reading they can get on them is.

Re: Speeding past Liphook Golf Club - gen (8th May 2007 - 17:04:52) Some drivers are mad, aren't they? I bet most would be devastated if they actually killed a pedestrian.

Re: Speeding past Liphook Golf Club - Stephen (8th May 2007 - 17:53:13) Aren't there more worthwhile uses of limited public resource than assisting golfers amble slowly across the road. Perhaps Liphook Golf Club members could pay for their own speed camera / zebra crossing / pedestrian island / overbridge / whatever. After all, no-one asked them to build a golf club on two sides of a main highway.

Re: Speeding past Liphook Golf Club - gen (8th May 2007 - 18:30:08) Shame on you, Stephen! Are you trying to say that the world exists solely for car drivers? You have a fast new A3 road built for you just a few years ago, to leave a little of the countryside for the rest of us to enjoy, and still you have to belt along country roads with scant regard for other users. Let me guess - you are under 25, you play your music loud enough to hear half a mile away (and will probably need hearing aids years before your own father did) and tailgate other drivers who drive our highways with a little consideration for other users. Golfers keep fit, and even in their mid-eighties can probably get round the 5 miles of a golf course quicker than you can walk it, and they certainly don't hang about when crossing a road on a blind bend in a 40 mph limit when there are people like you about, young chaps with no consideration for anyone but themselves.

Re: Speeding past Liphook Golf Club - ellen (8th May 2007 - 19:59:00) I agree with stephen, sorry gen! but i live on the longmoor road right on the blind bend and leaving my drive with 3 kids is distressing every time i have to, as u dont see the speeding cars until they are upon u! and u have to rev like a bat out of hell to not get crashed into. The local MP has arranged to have the word slow painted on the bend, on the road, but this is not working, we need speed bumps or larger signes stating a 40 mile zone, as the ones we have now are the size of a side plate and are covered by foliage, which i cut back myself periodically. SO Gen if money IS going to be spent plse let it be on this extremely dangerous bend before my kids get rammed into as they sit in the back, and let the Golf Club pay for their own signs. They can afford it! I have a few letters from neighbours confirming all this so its not just me.

Re: Speeding past Liphook Golf Club - Candyfloss (8th May 2007 - 20:26:41) Gen Who will the someone standaing in a yellow coat, aiming a hair dryer be?? Another post with 'someone'else doing it and you writing about it. Try it, it could beat watching car-parkers!!. There are many more dangerous places in the area, other than here, I too feel that the safety of the golfers is the responsibility of the course owners - but somewhere it probably states 'that it is down to individuals to be responsible for themselves' Candyfloss

Re: Speeding past Liphook Golf Club - gen (8th May 2007 - 21:35:29) I think probably we are all missing the point here - if the speed limit was observed, there wouldn't be much danger. It's the speed, not the cars, that is the problem. Ellen, I totally agree that the junction you mention is really dangerous, and I sympathise with the worry you have about driving little children about - you must feel you take your life in your hands each time you come out. Do you think the existing speed limit is right for the road? Or is it the fact that drivers don't observe the existing speed limit?

Re: Speeding past Liphook Golf Club - Steve Read (8th May 2007 - 22:01:49) Gen, As you seem to be getting carried away with your Traffic Watch Crusade, let me enlighten you. For a great many years that road was the main A3, the volume of traffic far exceeded the current useage. Yes there was the odd accident on the railway bridge including a fatality which at the time was assumed to be a suicide. Golfers were struck but in relevance to the amount of traffic using that road it was a rare event. I would think there are more important issues in this "village" than worrying about that road. if you think the Highways Agency are going to fund extra calming measures along what is now a B road forget it. The majority of traffic on that road are parents bringing their loved ones up to Churchers School what used to be Littlefields. As for people who are bemoaning the fact their house backs onto the main road coming out of their driveway, did you not consider this when you purchased the house in the first place. Unbelievable! I'am sure the golfers can look after themselves, and if you still feel so strongly about this matter and who's parking in which car park I suggest you get off down to EHDC and get yourself measured up for a black and yellow uniform and notepad.

Re: Speeding past Liphook Golf Club - gen (9th May 2007 - 08:01:04) Thanks for the advice Steve. In my next life perhaps, thirty years younger and 2 ft taller. I don't know who's house backs on to the main road, but I am sure you will enlighten us. I expect people have to take the down side of buying a house in order to get one at all, but perhaps you are more fortunate than the rest of us, and certainly more able. I thought these talkback pages were for 'chatting' amongst residents about the things that concern them, so sorry if I have misunderstood - it seemed such a pleasant way of passing time that sometimes seems to go slowly when you are older (although in reality it rushes by faster as the end is in sight!!!) I'll just read the entries in future. It's nice to get a feel of the sort of people who live here.

Re: Speeding past Liphook Golf Club - Stephen (9th May 2007 - 09:16:32) Gen, I had to laugh when I read your assumed description of me in reaction to my posting. Your stereotyping of me from my posting was wrong on every single count. In fact, so far wrong that it wouldn't be worthwhile trying to explain as your narrow mind probably couldn't handle it.

Re: Speeding past Liphook Golf Club - sue W (9th May 2007 - 09:36:26) Gen Don't give up adding your opinions because some bite back - they do it to everydody - I have had my share of stick poking, and support. As you point out 'its a disscussion' as in life some will agree - some not, take the rough with the smooth I am sure the people here are no different from anywhere, very much like bullies in a playground, but the difference here is they are mostly unknown!!. I comapre this site to the old 'village stocks', but with computer technology!!. Keep posting!!

Re: Speeding past Liphook Golf Club - Eneida (9th May 2007 - 09:43:44) I think you're both being a bit mean to Gen....although I think some of her suggestions are a bit peculiar....the idea of a tall person in a yellow coat, waving a hair drier about, had me in stitches!!! However different opinions makes for an interesting discussion board and this forum has been much more lively since she joined....so carry on Gen!!! And, just a thought, but what about becoming a Parish Councillor?? I believe they are still looking for candidates and I don't suppose age would be an issue.... :) Eneida

Re: Speeding past Liphook Golf Club - ellen (9th May 2007 - 11:50:05) Thank you Steve for your unbelievable comment re me buying a house with a drive way onto the highway. First of all I wish I was lucky enough to be in a financial postion to be able to buy a house alas we have to rent.. due to the fact that a family member has died recently and I have just come out of a long stint in hospital... we had no choice but to accept the only house availble near the school for our 3 kids... plus the fact that I still have a near on heart attack every time we leave our drive..I only hope u r happy in your purchased house and dont have a problem with traffic when u leave your house... Gen many tks for you kind comments yes I agree the speed limit should be the same as the start of the village but I still dont think this would help, I really believe speed bumps do the trick.

Re: Speeding past Liphook Golf Club - oscar (9th May 2007 - 14:05:07) Maybe a new sport is born ! Get the golfer!! When i have driven down there the golfers come straight across in front of you on thier buggy's and drive them on the road round to the 15th tee. Totally agree with mr Read . A true liphookonian like myself and our fathers before us ..

Re: Speeding past Liphook Golf Club - paul (9th May 2007 - 14:24:28) Maybe the golf club could employ two lolly pop ladies at the crossings. They could wear fluorescent plus fours as part of their uniform.

Re: Speeding past Liphook Golf Club - Chris (9th May 2007 - 14:52:33) Gen, Don't despair! This is an opinion and chat facility and it is open to all. Just beware the occasional OTT response, the tone of which takes you back a bit; the roads around Liphook are some people's make-believe Nurburgring circuit and many like it that way.

Re: Speeding past Liphook Golf Club - gen (9th May 2007 - 15:04:18) Hi Oscar! You could also make a point of kicking injured people's crutches away - that would give you a second sport. The only people allowed buggies at Liphook are the severely disabled, some of them war veterans. When they start the perilous journey across the road, their playing partners go forward to check that the road it as free from traffic as possible. Unfortunately, they can't cater for boy-racers driving at 60 mph through the chicane. Stephen, I may have got some things about you wrong, and perhaps you're much older than I reckoned, but you are probably just a case of arrested development. Eneida, glad you enjoyed the bit about the person who actually stood on a village High Street somewhere, holding a hairdryer. I thought it was hilarious at the time. But it definitely caused a lot of speeding motorists to slow down, so maybe it would be a bit of a hoot to try it out somewhere.

Re: Speeding past Liphook Golf Club - Stephen (9th May 2007 - 17:09:34) Gen - stop throwing personal insults and maybe some people might start to see your argument.

Re: Speeding past Liphook Golf Club - Steve Read (9th May 2007 - 19:37:35) Ellen, Whilst I can only apologise for presuming you had purchased your house, please don't presume I have been lucky in purchasing my own. Its called hard work and not seeing your own kids for the first 5 years of their lives whilst working every hour available. Whatever your situation my point is that wether you had bought or rented surely it was apparent that the road was there and if this is such an issue for you why take this property even if it was the cheapest you could find at the time. I liken this to the same individuals who live on the green by the Millenium Hall moaning about Sainsbury's, without Sainsbury's their house in its present form would not have been there. The traffic past my own road has increased ten fold over the last 4 years, then you get people like Gen asking for another route to miss out Hindhead who then get directed out past us or another route past somebody else. Its a never ending saga, one point to remember you or anybody driving is another persons traffic. Live with it.

Re: Speeding past Liphook Golf Club - gen (9th May 2007 - 20:07:19) I doubt it, Stephen!

Re: Speeding past Liphook Golf Club - Chris (10th May 2007 - 07:08:59) Inevitably, the situation on the roads around Liphook will only get worse as the A3 tunnel work begins. As someone pointed out in another thread, one way to try to keep the area safe whilst coping with the extra volumes of rat run traffic is to make a concerted effort to pursuade whichever authorities need pursuading to reduce speed limits on the main roads leading into and out of Liphook at least whilst the Hindhead tunnel is WIP. Letters to our MP, to the Highways Agency etc. etc. Just an observation, the signs warning motorists about Golfers crossing the Portsmouth Road look as though they were erected by those that manage the Golf Course; why aren't they doing something more to protect their clients, for example by putting up clearer warnings or even shelling out for an overhead walkway? I think the answer lies in the economics of it and the fact that not many golfers are actually foolish enough to cross the road at that designated point.

Re: Speeding past Liphook Golf Club - candyfloss (10th May 2007 - 09:32:01) Ellen You seem to have a bit of a problem - but with your careful driving should be able to stay out of trouble. On the point of speed bumps - I watched a programme which was very informative, speed bumps actually reduce the speed to much less than a 20mph limit, and causes much more emissions due to stop/start driving. They are appropriate in housing estates (just), but not on a main road into a village. The general thread is that 'some' people drive to fast anywhere, how we stop this I don't know. It is not just the young either!! Candyfloss

Re: Speeding past Liphook Golf Club - ellen (10th May 2007 - 12:48:48) Hi steve Ooh yes I know about hard work and not seeing ones kids for yrs and saving to buy a house ,yes I really do know about that! but unfortunately when the partner of your comany runs off with all the cash and there is nothing one can do about it.. after all those yrs of hard work going down the drain, I really do know about hard work steve, no need to lecture me. I am talking 12 yrs not five. I also DID NOT have a choice of rentals at the time with moving country and 3 kids to house Candy floss yes I see what u mean about speed bumps its difficult I know. E

Re: Speeding past Liphook Golf Club - Steve Read (10th May 2007 - 23:58:11) Ellen, Read my post again, where did I say I've only been working 5 years? Assuming the fact that your kids are still at school I have probably been working more years than you are old. Whilst you see fit to embelish us all with your life story I fail to see the relevance towards this particular thread. Iam sure everybody on here if they looked closely enough could find a problem with their access onto any road around Liphook. Give us a practical solution on how to tackle this, does the Highways Agency have to fund every junction alteration so we can all slip safely into the flow of traffic every morning and evening. Its taken years and a vast amount of money to get a crossing in place for the kids on the Headley Rd let alone anything else. One could throw into the pot if you live where I think you live, and I will agree its a dodgy spot, why drive the kids to school in the first place and not walk if you feel its such a gamble and danger on entry onto the Longmoor Road.

Re: Speeding past Liphook Golf Club - ellen (11th May 2007 - 09:40:48) Hi Steve My apologies I did not mean to give u my life story..just concerned I guess. I wont mention the road again as I know there are worse problems elsewhere. E

Re: Speeding past Liphook Golf Club - candyfloss (11th May 2007 - 10:26:38) Steve, Are you going for a hat -trick? so far on this thread alone 2 ladies have been 'put back into their box' as it were due to your comments. You do make fair points but so harsh. Try to lighten up a little, and perhaps we could have more enjoyable posts. LOL Candyfloss

Re: Speeding past Liphook Golf Club - oscar (11th May 2007 - 11:13:07) Hi Gen , liked your reply. Please dont think i dont feel for disabled people as i have a close friend in a wheel chair, and i know the problems he has . But i'm talking generally. Apart from the very small bohunt club , that was set up so that the not so wealthy people of liphook could play golf as a return for liphook people letting the golf club use our common land . I'm sure the main liphook golf club could afford to build a foot bridge over this busy road as they are so concerned for thier members. OSCAR

Re: Speeding past Liphook Golf Club - liz (11th May 2007 - 13:43:55) Ellen/Candyfloss Don't be put off by Steve. - He seems to think everything in the garden's rosy unless he deems otherwise. In my view this website is for everyone's concerns/lifestory or whatever.

Re: Speeding past Liphook Golf Club - Les (11th May 2007 - 15:08:30) Steve, Ever thought of standing for parliament? You’d get my vote and a few others – not sure about the Ladies though. Keep the banter up!!!

Re: Speeding past Liphook Golf Club - Candyfloss (11th May 2007 - 15:25:28) Steve, Les was aiming rather high, perhaps a local councillor would have been more appropriate, as you have slated all those in the past. Lets see what Liphook under Steve would be like!!. (probably like the middle east!!) Candyfloss

Re: Speeding past Liphook Golf Club - gen (11th May 2007 - 17:22:48) Liked the idea of Steve in the Middle East - made me laugh out loud - how else do you laugh, all right!

Re: Speeding past Liphook Golf Club - Eneida (11th May 2007 - 18:31:18) Well Girls I must confess I quite like Mr. Read!!! :D When I first joined this forum, a few years ago now, I also thought he was a 'Grumpy Old Man', but he's grown on me and I think he's very sensible and would make a great Councillor!! BTW Steve....did my balloon idea help with your problem?? You've never said!! Eneida

Re: Speeding past Liphook Golf Club - Steve Read (11th May 2007 - 19:03:23) Now I've lost the WI vote, nah! Middle East LOL, camels are abound with the amount who have got the hump on here. Ellen, no need to apologise certainly to me, you made a valid point the way you see it and I like to make mine likewise, rightly or wrongly. Candyfloss, you as much as me have an opinion about most things aired on this site. Because I might disagree with some matters this in no way constitutes putting people in a box. If people cannot see another side when their view is criticised and fall out of their pram by saying that its for me I will only read comments from now on on this site and not participate, how childish is that! You have managed to get plenty of plugs on here for your business and the plight of many others down on Station Rd and I will agree it needs addressing. Like many other problems around this "village" we need to find a workable solution. However I find it depressing when you look at what I think are major issues around here only invoke minimal postings on this site, yet the height and number of hoardings at Sainsbury's or how Roger Rabitt met his demise commands pages. Liz, again you must be lost this thread has nought to do with Sainsbuy's. But just to keep you happy here's a good one for you. Speaking to a member of staff in the evil empire only the other day, the next phase of development is going to be, wait for it................................... A MULTI-STOREY CAR PARK, that should give you some mileage on that one. Enjoy! Regards, Lawrance of Liphook

Re: Speeding past Liphook Golf Club - karen (11th May 2007 - 19:50:41) Now you have annoyed me Steve. Have avoided reading 'talkback' as much as I can as some entries on it really do upset me, but you take the biscuit. My rabbit's name wasn't Roger and issues like this are important if there is some little b....r going round Liphook chopping off the heads and tails of other people's pets. Sorry it's just that I have two children who have been watching the comings and goings of fluffy bunnies for the last three or four weeks. My 6 year old son suggested that we started a list of our dead pets. With regard to the road, it seems to me that if everyone just drove at the speed limit we would get on fine. Being a good driver doesn't mean you can keep the car on the road whilst taking the Golf Club corner on two wheels at 65 mph, it means abiding by the speed limits and remembering that families with young children live on all of the roads into and out of Liphook. I am on the Portsmouth Road and whilst the road isn't as busy as it was, you only have to get a couple of inconsiderate twits (normally around the age of 17 and driving a blue Corsa or something else they have borrowed from their mothers) who belt along the road and 55mph and it really pees you off. So this argument goes back even further in my opinion. Nobody cares anymore about how their actions will effect someone else.......bring back national service!! I might run for government. Steve don't come back with something that might upset me.

Re: Speeding past Liphook Golf Club - JWM (11th May 2007 - 21:05:14) Getting back to the speeding problem. I think speed humps are a waste of time and money(damage cars,more pollution,danger to motorbikes,nightmare for ambulances etc.) Now I hate speed camera's, but if they were in the right area's like those mentioned instead of catching people unawares going a bit over the limit in safe places it would probably make a huge difference.

Re: Speeding past Liphook Golf Club - Candyfloss (11th May 2007 - 21:32:44) Steve Now you have the hump. How have I given the plight(if I had one) of my business air time on the site? I have always been concerned with BUSINESSES in Station Road for over 10 years, and one in London Road before that, but have never mentioned any particular one!! Probably for a very good reason. In fact as i said your points are fair, but delivery bouncy. I do like to participate with the conversations as do many. By the way your 'ruse' has allready been suggested somewhere in the depth of former postings. LOL Eneida I do not dislike Steve either - or rather the writer as I am not aware of him personally. Candyfloss

Re: Speeding past Liphook Golf Club - Candyfloss (11th May 2007 - 22:04:05) Steve Unless you have kicked sand in my eyes in your rush to re-create the Middle east, i fail to see a post from Liz saying a thing about Sainsburys under this subject. Maybe you are suffering hallucinations from the heat?

Re: Speeding past Liphook Golf Club - gen (11th May 2007 - 22:49:48) Karen, so sorry about your animals - I have seen cats carrying whole rabbits quite frequently, but it's difficult to say unless they are caught in the act. Well said! About the traffic, too. Precisely my point - there would be no problem if people drove with consideration - but there's something about feeling so brave when they're inside a tin box on wheels, that ordinary manners go by the wayside. I crossed the road to get to the Millennium Hall the other day, not on a crossing but miles ahead of the only other vehicle on the road (a white van - your's, Oscar? Only joking...) and not causing him to brake at all and he really enjoyed blowing his horn rudely at me. Why is there so much aggression? Another Talkback misogynist, I expect!

Re: Speeding past Liphook Golf Club - oscar (12th May 2007 - 12:20:59) Thanks Gen,you have given me a great idea . Like to know what you think. I'm thinking of using my white van to ferry all the poor old golfers across the road to keep them safe, and make a small fortune doing it . what do you think? Steve you have been making me laugh for 40+ years , more power to you !! OSCAR

Re: Speeding past Liphook Golf Club - Steve Read (12th May 2007 - 15:12:22) Candyfloss, Please accept my apologies for confusing you with another poster. You will I'am afraid have to explain the "ruse" as you put it, bit slow this end. I certainly have not got the hump over anything posted and fully expect to get shot at over comments made. Liz can and will respond as we have done in the past over matters and I respect that, rather than sulk away or be put into a box as you put it. Obviously a lot of people on here are passionate about certain issues raised, I just fail sometimes to see the relevance in the wider picture of things. Being passionate about any issue is in no way a failing, but its easy to come on here state what is plainly obvious to everybody and then not contribute a workable solution. We all know the traffic around Liphook is a big problem, as I have stated before I think its worse now than ever before the bypass was built. That can be said about every single road in the country. But the big question is how do you address it. Bohunt School attributes more traffic to Liphook than any Supermarket or rat run, you only have to see how the volume of traffic decreases on holiday periods. How do we solve that? They put an extra crossing in the square, 20 yards from the other one and still people cross outside the Nationwide and the kids run from wherever to cross the road. This backs traffic even further back than before. The suggestion was made to educate drivers to act more responsibly, I would suggest they also get one hell of a lot of pedestrians in on the same education meeting. How do we solve this? Gen, bemoans the driving youth of today, fine. Will agree some are bad and irresponsible, some are the opposite. However the amount of miles I cover most weeks I can assure you the worst without a doubt are a lot older. Again its back to the youth issue, many on here enjoy nothing more than slating off and blaming the majority of issues on the youth in Liphook. Its too easy every time. When a meeting was set for the Youth Forum to discuss and find what could be done, how many slaters on here actually went and met the ones who attended to sit down like responsible adults and try to find out what THEY wanted. To my knowledge there were two, Barry Hope and myself apologies if I missed someone but there are only a small handful on here who actually have the balls to put their real name up. Karen has got upset over the fact of her childrens rabbit, immediately starts assuming its a youth running around becoming a serial rabbit killer, by the way how did I know the name of the rabbit the only rabbit I know is Roger. It could be anybody, if a human at all. Then I get told don't you dare come back and upset me again. Well I'am sorry Karen but I won't be losing sleep worrying about that. Sainbury's probably the biggest issue on here, (Sorry Liz), its here to stay, agree with it or not its here. I for one thought Liphook needed this, but only talking to Trevor (Liphook Hardware) the other day, where this has gone wrong has been by what they are stocking now that has had drastic effects on local business's, some form of curbing should have been agreed at the beginning at the planning stage. I know people who will not under no circumstances use Sainsbury's because they contribute or have done in the past to the Labour Party, I often wonder if thats the underlying factor for many of the bashers on here. Get this in perspective, you need a tin of beans, nah I won't go in there I'll drive all the way to Asda's at Waterlooville. But at least they stick by what they choose to do. Many criticise and harp on about the store and then you find them walking around the place doing their weekly shop! Vote with your feet, if you don't like em don't use them. The problem now I feel is that a great many people from outside the immediate area now come in for the shop, bringing all the other problems mentioned on other threads. Again Candyfloss apologies, will try to keep the bouncers a bit lower. Eneida, Sorry forgot to mention, yes your idea worked a treat have not seen the villain for a long time, adds amusing colour to the garden. Many thanks. Regards, Desert Eagle.

Re: Speeding past Liphook Golf Club - gen (12th May 2007 - 18:54:34) A thoughtful missive from Steve, nice to hear it all explained, as a newcomer I really appreciate someone take the time to spell it out without being ironical or sarcastic. I suppose it is easier to gripe than do something about things that bother one - probably write it up hear in the hope that someone else might think of answers. I accept the amount of traffic, as Karen said, that isn't really the problem. More traffic usually means less speed. Anyway, thanks Steve.

Re: Speeding past Liphook Golf Club - karen (12th May 2007 - 20:20:12) Steve Hi, you have upset me, told you not to do that. I didn't naturally assume that the person doing the rabbit bashing was a youth, it is probably just a fox with an enourmous appetite, but was slightly worried about the coincidence of lots of bunnies all meeting a sticky end over a two week period. Let's forget the rabbit story now shall we? I am completely bored with that.... The hutch has been laid to rest now and we won't be dashing out to buy anymore. With regards to the road. I am sorry this thread has now become so complicated for this simple, village housewife to understand, so I shan't be bothering to read anymore. It is not that I don't care, but I think you may have all forgotten what you started arguing about. So I am now going to pour my glass of wine, put my pizza in the oven (purchased from Sainsbury's - Dear God!) and listen to the traffic speeding past my house. Cheers! Karen

Re: Speeding past Liphook Golf Club - liz (14th May 2007 - 11:42:55) Steve Referring to traffic volumes in Liphook you say "I think it's worse now than before the bypass was built". In an earlier post (to Gen I think) you say the traffic on the 'old' A3 "far exceeded current usage". The other commentators are right - you'd be good in politics!

Re: Speeding past Liphook Golf Club - Candyfloss (14th May 2007 - 12:49:44) Steve Cheers!. Its nice to see that you can be compassionate. Please keep it up. In general if you slash all the chat, you discover the general thread to most topics - that people do care about Liphook. Some will only write and moan, others (a very few) will actually do something. Why is it nearly always the same ones? You mentioned that only a few have the balls to put their own name to something. It would be difficult for me to write under my own name, as people would assume that my personal comments are a business comment, and be detrimental to that business. You only have to read a posting by Liz to Sue at the Housewares to see what I mean. Just imagine if you ran a ladies fashion shop, apart from Enedia, who would go in?? Regardless if you were the sexiest and best salesman ever, your personal comments would have lost you at least 4 ladies. luv Candyfloss xx

Re: Speeding past Liphook Golf Club - Candyfloss (14th May 2007 - 13:24:08) Liz I am going to defend what Steve said. The traffic withing the square has greatly increased since the quiet days of the newly built by-pass, but most are going off to the Haslemere Road, either to Sainsburys or Haslemere, avoiding Hindhead. The traffic along the old A3 where the post is about speeding along near the golf course is far less today than in the past.

Re: Speeding past Liphook Golf Club - Eneida (14th May 2007 - 14:24:05) Sorry to go off topic, but really Candyfloss!!!! What on earth makes you think I'd go into a Ladies Dress shop run by Steve Read LOL Eneida

Re: Speeding past Liphook Golf Club - Steve Read (14th May 2007 - 17:40:19) Thanks Liz I knew you wouldn't let me down, good girl! Eneida, who let the cat out the bag regarding the ladies clothes shop I'am opening. I'am going to be stocking some fetching little numbers for this season. Regards, Oasis Ollie

Re: Speeding past Liphook Golf Club - Eneida (14th May 2007 - 19:34:19) Well actually Oasis Ollie I've been reading in all the magazines that 'metallic clothing' is all the rage for this season..... Should be just up your street :D:D Eneida

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