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Wireless Networking (Wi-Fi) - Alex Cameron (18th Oct 2003 - 14:24:31) I was just wondering how many people have had the chance to set up wireless networks in Liphook? Wherever i go now i see them all the time, and have set up loads for friends & family. The setup in our house is pretty cool - we have a firewalled 512/276 DSL connection running into a XP Pro machine linked into a normal 10/100 hub. Any other pc that's around with a USB adaptor/card connects to the network by a 54g wireless access point wired into the same hub. They all use the shared connection on the main gateway pc (XP internet connection sharing). Right now we have a broadcast range of about 100ft, so we could effectively supply the whole of our local cul-de-sac with an 11MB/s local area network. There really is nothing better than sitting in the garden browsing the internet on your laptop ;) The workers on my girlfriend's farm even use it to read their email while they're manuring the fields.... If anyone is thinking of setting up a wireless network, i couldn't recommend anything more cool - no messy wires, no limits on how many people can be on the network, no limits on where you place your PC...and even your neighbours can use it! And its *so* cheap compared to a LAN - £40 per adaptor, £70 for an access point....

Re: Wireless Networking (Wi-Fi) - Mike Grimes (17th Mar 2004 - 01:31:23) I now have a PC in the Study, an HP deskjet 5850 (which looks like a breadbin - so we keep it in the kitchen) and my son's PC in his bedroom all connected wirelessly at 54Mbps via a Netgear wireless ADSL router to each other and the internet. It was so easy to set up, even my mother could have done it, even if she could not understand why one would want to. Add the laptop in the the garden, weather permitting, and we are all surfing the net at a high speed simulaneouslly and able to receive phone calls at the same time. It is so good it is worth writing about. If your home can accomodate a cordless phone it is probably going to work. Cost : £140 for the router plus £40 per remote PC / Laptop and, of course, the £27 pm ADSL fee. You will not need the (probably supplied) ADSL modem, I have two spare - does anyone want to buy one? whoops wrong column. P.S. I'm not using the laptop in the garden now (but I could) Hope this helps convert a few technophobes.

Re: Wireless Networking (Wi-Fi) - Freddie Dawkins (18th Mar 2004 - 09:45:07) Laptops in the garden? How sad! Come on guys, don't let the web take your lives over - get out and do some digging and planting in the garden - better for you both physically and mentally. Let's start a gardening thread.... Freddie Dawkins

Re: Wireless Networking (Wi-Fi) - Alex Cameron (18th Mar 2004 - 13:46:58) Mike - excellent sounding set up there. I recently bought one of those Netgear routers and was astounded at easy it was to use. Possibly the best piece of kit i have ever had the pleasure to play with. Now Freddie you're showing your age here - my self-esteem won't allow me to do that gardening thing for at least another 20 years (i'd feel like my dad) ;) Seriously though, why have cables all over the house and/or sit at your desk facing the wall when you could be doing it a lot more pleasurably?

Re: Wireless Networking (Wi-Fi) - Freddie Dawkins (18th Mar 2004 - 17:08:13) Hi, Alex - I was pulling legs a little when I posted that message. If I tell you that we used to have a full-scale media company, you'll get some idea of levels we are used to. After 30 years of e-mail, legacy systems, DARPAnet then Internet then the Web......I'm not quite as techno-phobic as you might have imagined. But I bet the Ed. likes us throwing these threads in! rgds Freddie

Re: Wireless Networking (Wi-Fi) - Mike Grimes (18th Mar 2004 - 23:18:18) 30 years of e-mail? Gosh, I wonder how long it was before you got your first reply? I bet it wasn't from Julie Felix.

Re: Wireless Networking (Wi-Fi) - Freddie Dawkins (19th Mar 2004 - 00:46:55) Mike - Maybe I should set up a lecture tour - How the Internet got started. It's a fascinating and well-known tale of the Pentagon in the early 1960's wanting US research communities to quickly and securely exchange vast amounts of material = DARPAnet. Along with the defence contractors in the US, universities like MIT were connected to the Net and so that's how e-mail began. Gradually the technology, and access to it, spread around the world. The rest, as they say, really is history. There are quite a few living in Liphook who know heaps about this - there are people from companies like IBM, Digital, Microsoft etc. I'm sure some of them read this site, so perhaps they'll contribute here? rgds Freddie

Re: Wireless Networking (Wi-Fi) - Alex Cameron (19th Mar 2004 - 14:10:33) You mean there are people in Liphook who know about things other than gardening? Freddie - we need more details on your media company! On another note - does the liphook library or anywhere else in town have wi-fi access ('hotspot'), and if not, why not?

Re: Wireless Networking (Wi-Fi) - Mark (19th Mar 2004 - 22:42:57) I am pleased to read all of this computer talk, it gives me hope. I am in the process of buying a house in Liphook and am from out of the area. Hopefully will find some other geeks?!

Re: Wireless Networking (Wi-Fi) - Mike Grimes (19th Mar 2004 - 23:37:30) Well, if you do buy a house here, then welcome but you are more likely to find horticulturalists than technophiles (and even more likely to find that most people here are neither). But things are looking up, it is alleged that Allan (of the Black Fox) now understands what the shift key is for and that you need it to use the @ sign. This is significant as he will now be able to : a) Send e-mails b) Post here Whether he will do either, however, remains to be seen but I hope that this 'dual skilling' will not dilute his culinary abilities. Mike.

Re: Wireless Networking (Wi-Fi) - Allan at Black fox (21st Mar 2004 - 21:15:57) Aint no point in Mike Grimes extracting the juice, he should be reminded that there is only one person in the whole wide world what knows what is at the bottom of his glass .......

Re: Wireless Networking (Wi-Fi) - Mike Grimes (21st Mar 2004 - 22:33:05) Oh My God! You've haven't gone and got those naff beer head makers (that make your beer go flat) in have you? Was it really you, or was it Jessica, that made the post? Seriously, go for it Allan (of the Black Fox) the web needs you. Mike.

Re: Wireless Networking (Wi-Fi) - Alex Cameron (22nd Mar 2004 - 17:11:58) Mark - this place is full of geeks, gardeners and drunken teenagers. Naturally you'll see immediately when you arrive just who is obviously to blame, if one of Steve's silent majority don't point it out to you first - the evil empire known as Sainsburys. What do beer head makers have to do with wireless networking? Unless they use the internet of course. I'd love it if i could browse the net in a beer garden on a sunny afternoon. Like Freddie says - why not get out and enjoy the greenery?

Re: Wireless Networking (Wi-Fi) - Steve Read (22nd Mar 2004 - 21:46:04) Mark, Sorry mate but the silent majority will have to remain silent on this one. Welcome to the Mike, Alex & Freddie Show. Got to go, Ive a modem party to attend mmm interesting!

Re: Wireless Networking (Wi-Fi) - Freddie Dawkins (22nd Mar 2004 - 23:27:41) Okay, let's be a little serious. Tomorrow (Tuesday) morning at 10.00, Millennium Centre main hall. The long-awaited Planning Inquiry Appeal hearing about extending the Sainsbury's store. Open to the public. First I knew about this was tonight at the Parish Council Planning meeting. Looks as if someone at the Planning Inspectorate forgot to get the message down to the Parish Council. Could be an interesting few hours, as we hear about exactly what Sainsbury's intends to do - and why the Parish and District Councils have had serious concerns. Now, back to that Rules Table for e-mail addressing.....tra la la....... Gnome

Re: Wireless Networking (Wi-Fi) - Mark (23rd Mar 2004 - 13:49:50) upon my arrival to Liphook i will need a broadband provider urgently. can anyone give me a recomendation for service/price?

Re: Wireless Networking (Wi-Fi) - Liphook.co.uk Editor (23rd Mar 2004 - 14:02:13) Hi Mike, One of the sponsors of Liphook offers Broadband via http://www.budgetadsl.com from £19.57 + vat per month, they're based in the village as well. You can use your own hardware (I'd recommend a wireless router from Netgear) and just buy the ADSL from them which is what a lot of the customers I know do. Definatly worth giving them a try as you can get a local number for support (if you ask), plus a quick setup time. I always try to support local companies, so hopefully they're what you're after. Cheers

Re: Wireless Networking (Wi-Fi) - Alex Cameron (23rd Mar 2004 - 14:57:43) Mark - the other option is get a coat hanger and wire yourself to a local TETRA mast. Should have you vibrating within seconds and a lot cheaper. You could even buy a tv dinner from the evil empire and cook yourself a nice meal too...

Re: Wireless Networking (Wi-Fi) - Mark (24th Mar 2004 - 13:04:21) lots of laughs

Re: Wireless Networking (Wi-Fi) - Steve (24th Mar 2004 - 14:07:46) Or you can get yourself a wireless network card and drive round roaming until you can find someone with an access point and broadband access who doesn't have a sufficient firewall. It's free then. I prefer the coathanger idea though. I'm joking by the way.

Re: Wireless Networking (Wi-Fi) - Alex Cameron (25th Mar 2004 - 01:01:41) My access point's range will probably stretch to 100ft or so - if you sit outside Sainsburys you should get a good signal. If you can avoid the flying bottles, skateboards, spit and ubitiqious abuse - you should be able to check your email and post here every day. Fantastic stuff - just let me know ;)

Re: Wireless Networking (Wi-Fi) - Steve (25th Mar 2004 - 10:17:42) Excellent do you have a 1mb pipe?

Re: Wireless Networking (Wi-Fi) - Alex Cameron (25th Mar 2004 - 11:08:21) 512kb at the moment - do you need access?

Re: Wireless Networking (Wi-Fi) - Steve (25th Mar 2004 - 16:18:47) Nope, but it would be cheaper to sit at Sainsburys on my laptop in my car then pay for it myself. ;o) Perhaps we could run a piece of string from your house to mine and put a baked bean tin on each end. That way I could avoid paying a thing.

Re: Wireless Networking (Wi-Fi) - Alex Cameron (26th Mar 2004 - 00:39:56) Or if Freddie's amenable we could clear out one of his henhouses for a new flock of carrier pigeons?

Re: Wireless Networking (Wi-Fi) - Freddie Dawkins (26th Mar 2004 - 11:06:33) Black Rocks say they'd welcome new neighbours. Quite fancy a few pigeons myself - but I prefer them filletted and braised with celery and red wine. My grandfather and uncles used to race pigeons and were pretty successful breeders. We have a great black and white photo of my father racing to clock-in a champion pigeon as it returned to the roost, dated about 1947. Freddie (only slightly tongue in cheek!).

Re: Wireless Networking (Wi-Fi) - Mike Grimes (27th Mar 2004 - 00:05:51) Herald, are you listening : BLACK ROCKS TELL LOCAL COUNCILLOR - ENOUGH IS ENOUGH A spokeshen for a local parish councillor's flock of free range organic chickens today TOLD the Bramshott and Liphook parish councillor that they would not be prepared to share their coop or telephone with pidgeons or any other vermin. General opinion amongst the flock, however, revealed a greater concern that there were 'those amongst' that were actually TALKING to a parish councillor.

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