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School Zebra Crossing in the Headley Road - Paul Robinson (1st Sep 2006 - 22:53:13) Does anyone remember the post on this site that plans had been approved and that work was about to start on the construction of a pedestrian crossing in the Headley Road? Well the children are about to go back to school, many of them 'rising fives' starting at Liphook Primary on the outset of their education. How many of them will have progressed though to Junior school and onto Bohunt before a spade is dug in anger? Paul Robinson.

Re: School Zebra Crossing in the Headley Road - Freddie Dawkins (2nd Sep 2006 - 19:12:43) Hi, Paul - You feel about this issue much as I do. I've sent a message to Hampshire CC in Winchester, asking for an update. Sam James may be able to answer more quickly here, as it was Sam who really pushed to get the Highways Dept in Winchester moving on the crossing. rgds Freddie

Re: School Zebra Crossing in the Headley Road - Paul Robinson (2nd Sep 2006 - 21:35:59) Freddie, you and I and many who read this site will know that you and I have written often about the school crossing/ lollipop lady / vacancy / parents involvement etc. I have not heard or read anything about Sam James involvement in this matter on this site, or elsewhere for that matter. The fact remains that planning has been approved and next week a new term starts and we have no crossing and no date for the start of the work. Paul Robinson

Re: School Zebra Crossing in the Headley Road - kevin (3rd Sep 2006 - 08:47:13) Perhaps this should be a standing agenda item for the Highways and Byways Committee of the Parish Council, it is a very important omission from the safe highway network that Liphook deserves.

Re: School Zebra Crossing in the Headley Road - Steve Read (3rd Sep 2006 - 17:12:56) Paul, Totally agree with what you are saying. I expect in their infinite wisdom Winchester would not have the sense to carry out the proposed work during the summer holidays when traffic is lighter. No lets wait till everybody is back to school and summer holidays, then start.

Re: School Zebra Crossing in the Headley Road - Paul Robinson (3rd Sep 2006 - 21:28:37) According to a plastic sign taped to a post near the spot chosen for the pedestrian crossing, work will not commence on this amenity for at least three months from the date on the sign (4th August 2006) to allow for any objections to the siting / construction of the crossing. So I guess this takes us into the middle of winter, dark nights etc. It is incredible. I suspect that budget shuffling is at the bottom of this. Paul Robinson

Re: School Zebra Crossing in the Headley Road - Huw (4th Dec 2006 - 15:03:20) ermmm.... still no crossing, maybe when a child or parent gets injured something will be done the council as of 14.00 this afternoon (Monday 4-12) had no idea what was being done albeit a fellow parent had been told work commencing 20th November !! Any clues as to when this much needed facility will be provided ?? Maybe we should just join the masses and drive the half mile to school...

Re: School Zebra Crossing in the Headley Road - Paul Robinson (7th Dec 2006 - 04:49:58) I notice today that the 'Lollipop man' that was recently appointed to this crossing has now disappeared. With increasing traffic levels, dark nights and drivers ignoring the 20mph speed limits I fear it is only a matter of time before there is an accident at this spot. Paul Robinson

Re: School Zebra Crossing in the Headley Road - Kevin F (7th Dec 2006 - 23:14:12) At a recent meeting at the Parish Council attended by many Liphook Residents and the local traffic cop (sorry!) Dr John Tough 'confirmed' that work was to start before the end of this year, perhaps he would be good enough to divulge his source on this so that they can be held to account. Enough of the false promises ... when is it going to happen! This kind of delay and lack of communication in the private sector would see heads roll.

Re: School Zebra Crossing in the Headley Road - Nick Hancock (8th Dec 2006 - 14:44:12) Paul, intelligence from someone who should know (and I certainly don't mean me!) is that the proposed crossing is scheduled to be started in Jan 07, to be sited outside the flats on Headley Road (no. 74a?). Once again the date seems to have been postponed, so we can only wait in hope. Nick

Re: School Zebra Crossing in the Headley Road - Paul Robinson (20th Dec 2006 - 08:59:08) Progress at last. An official notification was delivered by hand to my home from Mike Whitfield an engineer at Hampshire County Council advising me that work would start on the zebra crossing in the Headley Road during w/c 1st January 2007. If anyone has a problem with this they should contact Mr Whitfield direct on 02380 628961. Paul Robinson

Re: School Zebra Crossing in the Headley Road - Elle (21st Dec 2006 - 22:34:25) This crossing is very much needed but to begin work on the 3rd of jan when all the schools go are back is crazy. I guess the people who make these deceisions don't travel along the Headley Rd at quarter to nine in the morning.

Re: School Zebra Crossing in the Headley Road - Jane G (3rd Jan 2007 - 19:40:45) Well well well...two men in fluorescent jackets were standing scratching their heads looking at sheets of paper this morning where the alleged zebra crossing is going to be...progress??

Re: School Zebra Crossing in the Headley Road - purplecurly (6th Jan 2007 - 16:00:24) In true British Council worker style, the work men turned up in the rush hour; caused traffic chaos by parking in the most ridiculous places, then proceeded to block off the pavement entirely. No provision was made for pedestrians to walk past the said men in fluorescent jackets, hence unaccompanied children and mothers with prams all risking life and limb wandering along in the road, whilst said men scratched their arses. FANTASTIC

Re: School Zebra Crossing in the Headley Road - Paul Robinson (11th Jan 2007 - 16:17:06) Travellers along the Headley Road will have now have become familiar with the pathetic tableau of plant, tools and barriers clustered around the site of the proposed, and long overdue, pedestrian crossing. We were wondering why it should take four weeks to construct a pedestrian crossing, clearly we did not factor in time for arse scratching nor were we aware that this practice would be carried out off site. It has been two days now since anyone has done anything meaningful towards completing this project. At this rate someone will slap a preservation order on the rusting wheelbarrow at present handcuffed to the sign post. I suspect that this has less to do with preventing theft of said wheelbarrow and more to do with preventing someone taking the initiative and finishing the job.

Re: School Zebra Crossing in the Headley Road - Steve Read (11th Jan 2007 - 18:02:07) Quality Paul, absolute quality! How much was the figure quoted? Now we know why.

Re: School Zebra Crossing in the Headley Road - Stephen (12th Jan 2007 - 09:14:16) Really, I thought it was conceptual art, not roadworks. Turner prize nomination?

Re: School Zebra Crossing in the Headley Road - Eneida (12th Jan 2007 - 12:02:17) Perhaps they should have given the job to Polish workers...it would be finnished by now and at half the cost.....just a suggestion ;) Eneida (now hiding under the desk)

Re: School Zebra Crossing in the Headley Road - rob (18th Jan 2007 - 08:40:20) Thursday 0830hrs. Three men in yellow jackets. Standing under the tree staring at the road. Scratching their heads (this time). This the day when the Met Office advises people not to go out unless they have to. Fat chance of anything serious being achieved before the weekend. Except, no doubt, something which will muck up the traffic. Ho hum. rob.

Re: School Zebra Crossing in the Headley Road - Paul Robinson (18th Jan 2007 - 13:33:46) Thursday 08.50 two worthies in day glo jackets spotted outside 68 Headley Road in the pouring rain. Could the third man have fallen into the hole in the square? I think we should be told.

Re: School Zebra Crossing in the Headley Road - Steve Read (18th Jan 2007 - 17:15:45) Interesting reading this thread with Barry's regarding the traffic problem around the school. I see yet again more meetings are scheduled, consultations etc etc etc. in other words lets keep talking about it, lets arrange a meeting to finalise the next meeting, the usual crap wheeled out by people in grey trying to justify their importance within the council system. My question being, why if these people are hell bent on arranging meetings with one another is there not a meeting to rectify and cost out how long this shambles of a crossing is taking and WHO is responsible, where does the buck stop? Watch them dive for cover on this one. Probably can't contact them anyway, there all in a meeting.

Re: School Zebra Crossing in the Headley Road - Ben Lawrance (18th Jan 2007 - 18:23:13) I live a stones throw away from where the work is being done (or not being done as the case may be) As I drive past it a few times a day, I get to see the (slow) progress the chaps in florry jackets are making. One question. Why have they just dug up the tarmac that they only put down a few days ago??? Seems a waste of perfectly good tarmac to me (I might ask them if I can have some to re do my driveway if they don't mind wasting it), and time doing it, when they could be getting on with actually finishing the thing. Now, I'm no road worker, but to me painting a few lines on the road, and dropping the kerb either side shouldn't (and again I say I'm no expert) take this long?? Shoud it?? 2p in the pot

Re: School Zebra Crossing in the Headley Road - Raman (22nd Jan 2007 - 22:14:30) It looks like they are digging a tunnel.Can someone direct them towards Hindhead.

Re: School Zebra Crossing in the Headley Road - purplecurly (27th Jan 2007 - 11:57:21) OK. Can someone please tell me why the lights on top of the poles are 40 foot in the air???? Normal yellow flashing lights are one thing, but these............? What the hell are they

Re: School Zebra Crossing in the Headley Road - Gember Noot (28th Jan 2007 - 22:00:45) The Poles are probably going to be exactly the same as those in the square. With lights on top of them lighting the actual crossing.

Re: School Zebra Crossing in the Headley Road - Eneida (29th Jan 2007 - 08:50:06) Has anyone noticed that the white stripes on the Zebra Crossing in the Square seem to be gradually melting away? .......do you think this is being caused by global warming??? ;) Eneida

Re: School Zebra Crossing in the Headley Road - Chris (13th Feb 2007 - 08:05:44) Does anyone have any idea when the crossing will become operational? To my untrained eye it looks like it has been ready for a number of days now and all that needs to happen is for the lights to be turned on…

Re: School Zebra Crossing in the Headley Road - Paul Robinson (13th Feb 2007 - 09:51:59) Since yesterday morning the crossing has been used by parents going to and from school despite a sign leaning against an a adjacent fence that says this crossing is not in use. Motorists are slowing and allowing people to cross however in the event of an incident it might be difficult to prove who was to blame until such time as the crossing is lit up and fully operational.

Re: School Zebra Crossing in the Headley Road - purplecurly (14th Feb 2007 - 09:56:24) Amazingly (but not surprisingly) I have noticed an increase of people crossing in the road BEFORE the new crossing – on to the grass verge on the left of the vehicular exit. Perhaps it is only when the belisha beacons actually start flashing that these stupid people will realise that a safe place to cross has now been appointed and duly processed.

Re: School Zebra Crossing in the Headley Road - Steve Read (22nd Feb 2007 - 18:56:09) Excellent news according to the Herald today. The crossing is near completion, this week. Great! How many weeks now waiting for the lights to be wired up. I see our Councillor James original costing was £50,000 but some other spark at Hampshire C C is saying the work should be around £45,000. Thank goodness for that for one minute there I thought it was going to cost an awful lot of money. To top that, from the original £78,000 contributions this now leaves approx £33,000 to "investigate" safer routes to school. How pathetic does this get! Can someone please explain to me how basically a job which has been used as a fill in, ie part-time around other works can cost this amount of money. How many full days did the scratchers actually put in? Quantify the materials? Do the sums. Couple to this to the absolute glee of coming in under £50k of somebody else's money. Who are these developers that have contributed to this "pot"? I bet they can see value for money on this one and can't wait for the next project that they will have to contribute towards. One positive at least there will be £33k left over, enough to finance a few meetings, steering parties (always liked that one), investigations and consultations. Just hope they have enough left over for the dunky biscuits. Any jobs going on the Council?

Re: School Zebra Crossing in the Headley Road - Steve Read (22nd Feb 2007 - 20:15:02) Sorry, how silly of me. Forgot the most important one, Fact Finding Mission. Pass them biscuits round.

Re: School Zebra Crossing in the Headley Road - Chris (25th Feb 2007 - 09:07:58) I can remember there being covers or lights at the top of the poles on the zebra crossing very much like the ones in the square. Walking by this morning they have gone. Will we ever get a working crossing ?

Re: School Zebra Crossing in the Headley Road - Paul Robinson (5th Mar 2007 - 20:25:12) At the risk of stating 'the bleedin' obvious' we still do not have a fully operational school crossing on the Headley Road. What we have is some fancy, if slightly wonky, paintwork on the road and some downright dangerous signposts on the pavements advising that the crossing is not in use, these instructions are ignored by parents and children morning and afternoon. It has been almost three weeks since anyone did a hand's turn in completing this work. We know that it cost far too much but surely to God someone ought to have built in a completion clause when they contracted the work out. Who is going to speak to the council about this? Paul Robinson

Re: School Zebra Crossing in the Headley Road - rob (5th Mar 2007 - 21:38:18) ... and the hole's reappeared in The Square ....

Re: School Zebra Crossing in the Headley Road - Paul Robinson (22nd Mar 2007 - 13:30:30) It has been so long since anyone posted anything on this thread that it took me some time to find it. Having telephoned Hampshire Highways (Making Hampshire Roads Better) I was informed that the number on their signpost was incorrect however I was given another number and spoke to someone called Andy Maybe (?) who informed me that the delay in activating this crossing was due to SEC who have to connect the electrics and erect the lamps on the top of the poles. He assured me that this work would be completed by the end of next week 30th March 2007. So I make that nearly three months since the work was started. I informed him that in the meantime the carelessly erected signs informing the public that the crossing was not in use had damaged a fence and both sign and fence were in danger of toppling over. Now the question is . . . why couldn't someone from the Parish Council have made these enquiries and let us know what was going on? Paul Robinson

Re: School Zebra Crossing in the Headley Road - rob (22nd Mar 2007 - 16:35:24) And the significance of 30th March ...? It's the beginning of the Easter school holidays!! You couldn't make it up ...! Mr Maybe? Maybe. rob.

Re: School Zebra Crossing in the Headley Road - Steve Read (23rd Mar 2007 - 20:15:30) Maybe my eyes were seeing things but I saw a man last Friday fiddling with cables into the poles. Probably a different department. We don't need to rush these things. Also had a thought, if by any chance there was any money left out of the £45,000, I repeat £45,000. I thought they could lay on an opening ceremony, a couple of ribbons either side, some sausage rolls and cheesy bits on a stick spread along the pavement. We could also ask some of the PC along, mind you by the deafening silence on this subject maybe their not about at the moment. Even better we could invite someone from HCC to come and cut the ribbon, get their smug photo in the paper and tell us all what a great job they are doing on our behalf and what marvellous value for money the Council is.

Re: School Zebra Crossing in the Headley Road - Paul Robinson (3rd Apr 2007 - 20:05:00) Further to my last post on this subject when I reported that Mr Maybe of Hampshire Highways had informed me that completion date for the pedestrian crossing would be week ending 30th March, I regret to report that there has been no further progess save for the removal of the 'Making Hampshire Highways Better' sign. No doubt this was to prevent interested parties phoning the wrong number asking when completion of the project would be. I note that for the last week of the school term we now have a School Crossing Person who escorts parents and children across . . .the School Crossing . . . is it me? Paul Robinson

Re: School Zebra Crossing in the Headley Road - Chris S (17th Apr 2007 - 15:07:04) Well finally the crossing seems to be open for business. The amber lights are flashing and the 'do not use' signs have now gone. I make that nearly 4 months to get this far. The one thing that does still seem to be missing is the lights at the top of the poles much like the ones in the square. Can I expect them to appear before Christmas or has the £50k budget now run out ? I think we should be told.

Re: School Zebra Crossing in the Headley Road - Eneida (17th Apr 2007 - 16:55:03) Well really!!...you people in Liphook are never satisfied are you? You've got flashing lights that work, black and white stripes and now you want lights on top of the poles as well!! Don't forget this was actually a bargain Zebra at only 45K....you'd probably have to pay the full 50 for the deluxe version ;) Eneida

Re: School Zebra Crossing in the Headley Road - Steve Read (17th Apr 2007 - 17:40:38) How true Eneida, I saw the whole crossing in all its glory this afternoon. As I sat there waiting for all the Mums and Kids walking across I marvelled at the whole design with all the lights on, reflecting on such value for money. The only thing that I was bemused about was the lady stood in the middle with the lollypop.mmmmmmmmm! No Paul it is not just you.

Re: School Zebra Crossing in the Headley Road - H (17th Apr 2007 - 19:06:58) Zebra crossing / Lollipop lady?! Motorists actually don't stop now until the lollipop lady walks out in front of them. I thought that padestrians had the right as soon as they set foot on the road. Too many times I have stood there obviously about to cross and cars just race through until the lady with the lollipop walks into the road. Surely this makes the crossing MORE dangerous? It should be ONE or the OTHER - having both just cancels out the whole point of zebra crossing. (if you ask me it should have been a pelican crossing anyway...) btw...NO reflection on the brilliant work that the lollipop lady does for us twice a day.

Re: School Zebra Crossing in the Headley Road - Grahame Polley (17th Apr 2007 - 19:20:55) Not sure if any one has seen the new zebra crossing near the High Street in Haslemere. Apart from the fact that is on a raised surface so it can't be seen when sitting in a car, it seems to have gone into service without belisha beacons and no warning signs. Obviously EHDC H&S department is looking after our welfare more than Waverleys.

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