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Sainsbury's advertising - liz (2nd Aug 2006 - 11:30:27) While having a general moan about Sainsbury's (see Bohunt Tree Planting post), have they got, or do they need, planning permission for the huge board erected on the side of the Midhurst Road advertising the store extension? If it is 'temporary', how temporary is that? My general moan with Sainsbury's is the arrogence and disregard with which their devopment arm treated the people of Liphook i.e. "we will not need to expand the store", "no siginificant increase in traffic" "asbestos will be sealed before being removed from the site" etc etc, don't even mention the Millenium Hall fiasco. I know this is all old news but they seem to be taking the mickey again!

Re: Sainsbury's advertising - Allan (3rd Aug 2006 - 14:12:13) Interesting that you remind us of the cavalier fashion in which the asbestos waste was removed from the site, Liz. I well recall open box/cages on the back of flatbed trucks winging their way through Liphook with a plume of dust behind. I also recall that as part of the planning permission there was an obligation to remove soil and earth from specific parts of the O.S.U. for decontamination before the site could be built on. I wonder if those responsible for complying with that were as consciencious as their counterparts with the asbestos!. From what I have been told,albeit anecdotally, what was stored underground there during and after the war years is scary stuff; and they built houses on it!! As for Sainsbury's assurance then that there would be no need to expand in the future, didn't they, in part, make allowances to hold to that assurance by building their store with 15% more floor space than they had planning permission for in the first place?

Re: Sainsbury's advertising - Barry (7th Aug 2006 - 12:58:03) Just going back to the subject of the extension at sainsbury's - I heard there is going to be a coffee shop amongst other things, is this correct?

Re: Sainsbury's advertising - S (7th Aug 2006 - 13:37:55) Whats the point of having a bigger shop when they don't fill up the one they have at the moment? It's always empty, there is never enough stuff on the shelves. If you goto Waitrose in Petersfield it is always filled up and everything is available.

Re: Sainsbury's advertising - Janet (7th Aug 2006 - 21:45:34) There's a lot of nonsense and hysteria about asbestos. Anyone wishing to be further enlightened might like to check out the asbestos watchdog ebsite on http://www.asbestoswatchdog.co.uk

Re: Sainsbury's advertising - LippyChick (7th Aug 2006 - 23:37:27) Hi I understand that to be the case as well. However the plus point is that the percentage of floor space given over to non food items will be reduced from what it is now. Here's hoping eh! Lips x

Re: Sainsbury's advertising - katy (8th Aug 2006 - 15:22:59) Apparently there is going to be a Starbucks/Costa coffee place where the current staff room is, the staff room is going upstairs, there is going to be a hot food counter (chickens etc) and maybe a small clothing range. But I agree they can't fill their shelves now so God 'elp 'em when they expand. PS Tesco at Bordon is the place to go, full shelves, loads of room to move about and loads of checkout staff plus good prices and a range of foods from value to Finest

Re: Sainsbury's advertising - Steve Read (8th Aug 2006 - 18:27:02) They reckon its going to rain on Saturday, that must be Sainsbury's fault as well.

Re: Sainsbury's advertising - Barbara (8th Aug 2006 - 20:29:22) I love all the free advertising for Tesco and Sainsbury. Costa Coffee should be boycotted and called Costa rotten fortune! Usually the local supermarkets cater for what they think the local people will buy, for example, a Sainsbury in Southall would stock all neccssary fresh herbs for Punjabi home cooking. We need to make a fuss and demand what we want from the local shops. Also if people in large enough numbers refused to shop there Sainsburys would not have thought it worthwhile to expand.

Re: Sainsbury's advertising - Rhys G (8th Aug 2006 - 22:52:16) I like your point S. There is never any bread, and is milk no longer sold in 6 pints? Admittedly I try to avoid Sainsbury's on all costs as I had the place, and do think it has ruined the village - so maybe it's just when I pop in. The expansion of Sainsbury's will ruin the village/town, even more than it has done so already. Why build a cafe, when there are local businesses to support? Why expand, when the original building ruined the whole village as it was? Will they be providing more services/help towards the community? Will the expansion increase traffic, making it more difficult for children to cross the roads etc? Sure employment may increase, but does this out weigh the negative sides to the expansion? Has anyone noticed any fair-trade products in Sainsbury’s by the way? How about a mass Sainsbury's boycott? Count me in!

Re: Sainsbury's advertising - Freddie Dawkins (8th Aug 2006 - 23:48:58) Just go to Lidl's in Bordon. Cheaper, better quality. Ok, so they sometimes don't have such a great range of stuff, but all the basics are there. And if you want to splash out, go next door to Somerfields and you can buy rotisseried chickens etc etc. My Lidl's favourites: smoked salmon - incredibly cheap! All the fruit and veg - fresh figs last week at 19p each; gouda cheese; feta cheese; brilliant new pear juice; real chocolate; washing liquids and fabric conditioners are superb and half the price of Sainsbury's. Check it out. If it's good enough for the Germans, Belgians and Dutch, it's certainly better than Sainsbury's. Freddie

Re: Sainsbury's advertising - Mike Grimes (9th Aug 2006 - 01:09:15) What a bunch of hypocrites some of you are. Where did you shop before Sainsbury's "ruined" the village? Tesco, was it? or maybe Waitrose. I think the local business demise started a long time before Sainsbury's. I believe Sainsbury's provide a valuable service that we have all used and appreciated at some point. How can one know that "there is never any bread, and milk is no longer sold in 6 pints" without regularly using the store? Never mind that milkmen did not sell milk in 6 pint containers and that Liphook has two bakers shops (one of which bakes fresh bread on the premises) How many of you are concerned, not about Sainsbury's, but about the fact that you feel awkward about liking it? Lidl, there's an enigma. Some of what they sell is an absolute bargain, some is complete rubbish. Candles and Chorizo are my tips, but it's fun finding out.

Re: Sainsbury's advertising - Eneida (9th Aug 2006 - 09:19:30) Is Lidl the supermarket where you get banned if your trolley isn't pointing in the right direction at the check out?? Eneida

Re: Sainsbury's advertising - Freddie Dawkins (9th Aug 2006 - 09:49:28) Hi, Eneida - What rubbish! They might have the most aggressive check out staff training in the world, and they do tend to throw the stuff through the barcode reader - but it's all part of the "Lidl experience". Ha ha. If you can put up with the rush at the checkout, you'll save a fortune and discover some great food products. Mike - can't believe you said that. I used to buy most of the brands Lidl sell, when I lived in Belgium and Germany. I've tried most of the stuff they sell and I've never had to take anything back or complain. The point about Sainsbury's that has always worried me, is that once local shop owners knew the supermarket was coming, some just gave up. The buthcer's/fishmongers closed a year before Sainsbury's opened. The greengrocers struggled on in Satation Road but eventually Joyce closed down her retail business. Thank goodness Mark has come back to the bakers in Station Road and reopened for business. There is going to be the new butcher's in half of the Balfours shop in Station Road and the other half, I hear, is being taken by an existing business as new premises. Sainsbury's does offer a service - but as a community we've paid the price of one large retailer dominating the area. Somerfield's did buck their act up and modernise - but at the same time we lost their brilliant deli counter, which was a blow. If we look at how the population of Bramshott & Liphook has expanded, there's no doubt the influx of people has to mean there are now enough consumers to support high quality, independent, retailers. Vote with your money and encourage choice. cheers Freddie

Re: Sainsbury's advertising - liz (9th Aug 2006 - 10:01:42) Janet I'm not prone to hysteria (nonsense sometimes perhaps!) and there is an issue with asbestos. I couldn't get into the site you recommended as my company's security blocked it as an 'Advocacy Group'. Hmmm. So I checked out the Health & Safely Exec website for asbestos. The first thing you see is 'Asbestos is the greatest cause of work related deaths in the UK'. I know there are different types, but none of it is very nice stuff. Anyone removing any type of asbestos- even the most innocuous -from buildings is advised to wear protective clothing and masks. At the time of the removal of the asbestos from the buildings on the OSU site I contacted the HSE who informed me that had the site been next to a school the asbestos would have to be carefully wrapped before and during removal from site (as Sainsbury's had originally promised). Not the sort of stuff you want broken up and blowing around the village. And to reply to a few others The reason many people complain about the Sainsbury's development include the following: 1) 'Consulting' with local people at length then totally ignoring local suggestions - they didn't have to agree but could have told us why 2) General lack of concern for their neighbours during the construction - so much so that a noise abatement order had to be introduced to allow a bit of peace and quiet on Sunday afternoons and evenings 3)Promising there would be no significant increase in traffic(!!!) - no one appeared to believe them except those who allowed the building of houses over an alternative access to the site 4) Promising not to compete with local non-food businesses and then doing exactly i.e. electrical goods, school uniforms etc 5) Giving no significant planning gain such as provision for extra schooling, particulalry bearing in mind the the scale of the development 6) Promising a 'Country Store' with no petrol station, no extension would be needed etc, etc .. but I think most people are aware of the issues. And finally... (honest!) I don't think it is hypocritical to use the store. We are stuck with it and have to make the most of it - also there are less alternatives following the closure of the butchers, greengrocers, newsagents/stationers. We needed a supermarket but we also needed more attention paid to the broader impact.

Re: Sainsbury's advertising - Andrew Clarke (9th Aug 2006 - 18:29:17) I can not wait for a bigger better Sainsburys, it will make shopping so much more enjoyable. I will be able to fill my car up with petrol, do the shopping then relax and have a lovely cup of coffee. I hope the coffee shop has wireless internet then I can sit with my coffee and and mac I read all of these posts. Anyway I am going to get back to looking for a shop in Liphook to open my new late night jazz club/wine bar.

Re: Sainsbury's advertising - Chris (10th Aug 2006 - 05:39:58) The old Balfour's premises is still up for grabs...

Re: Sainsbury's advertising - liz (10th Aug 2006 - 09:07:43) A jazz club/wine bar. Now that IS a good idea!!! Some may like hanging around Sainsbury's and its petrol station for a cup of coffee but for me it has all the appeal of a motorway service station! - But I suppose we all have our own preferences.

Re: Sainsbury's advertising - Freddie Dawkins (10th Aug 2006 - 11:42:33) Andrew - Put me down on the membership application list for the jazz club. Venue: How about the cellars under the Royal Anchor. or the secret caves in Bramshott? All below ground and no noise to disturb the neighbours. Freddie

Re: Sainsburys - Niall Greenwood (10th Aug 2006 - 15:38:28) Just a thought, but is anyone from Sainsburys actually reading all these comments, which must provide some pretty good 'customer information', or are we all just venting so much hot air, but just to each other?? What would be really good would be for Sainsbury's manager to come on line and address some of the issues - if you are out there?!

Re: Sainsbury's advertising - Eneida (10th Aug 2006 - 16:10:14) A Jazz Club eh??? That should be very popular with the older generation in Liphook...will you be doing half price tickets for OAP's ;) Eneida

Re: Sainsbury's advertising - Barbara (10th Aug 2006 - 17:20:44) I was interested to know what caves there are in Bramshott? Explain please where are they? I have an old concrete WW2 AIRRaid shelter you could use, but the young people of Liphook would probably complain about us oldies enjoying ouselves! Would we have to wear 5os Beatnik clothes for the Jazz club and look like Audrey Hepburn and Peter Sellars?

Re: Sainsbury's advertising - xyz (10th Aug 2006 - 18:42:25) Balfours is not up for grabS Peep inside in having half and a butcher is having the over half the third half im not sure whos having !!!!!

Re: Sainsbury's advertising - liz (11th Aug 2006 - 08:30:56) Too late for Sainsbury's to listen now, the damage is done. - Unless of course they want to run the jazz club.......

Re: Sainsbury's advertising - Freddie Dawkins (12th Aug 2006 - 09:55:34) Hi, Barbara - well, I've still got the flares, kipper ties and cuban-heel boots from the 60's. Shame I didn't hang on to the Afro and the waist. Bet we can still groove to the sounds though... Cool, man. Freddie

Re: Sainsbury's advertising - Finchie (12th Aug 2006 - 16:12:20) I've been pretty happy with Sainbury's, cheery customer service, have most things I want, I even put up with the pain of always having to ask for razor blades without a grumble - "we keep them in the back because they get nicked". They even look like they are thinking, taking on board feedback and putting in better traffic flow. I like it now I have worked it out ! BUT NOW my world has ended. DISASTER of humungous proportion. Today I went for my usual 4 pots of Summer Fruit Selection Sainsburys DELUX Yoghurt (no low fat, low cost stuff for me). It has been discontinued at that store. Not only that - just about every other decent yoghurt is not available, including the Orchard Selection. This is MADNESS. I DEMAND AN IMMEDIATE BOYCOTT... Should I blame our local population for not creating the demand ? Or have they made a mess up of staggering proportion and underestimated its popularity ? Please get in touch if you are a fan of those yoghurts, Let's get another petition together and deliver it to Lord Sainsbury ! Cheers, Finchie PS This is not a joke - I'm really gutted.

Re: Sainsbury's advertising - Barbara (12th Aug 2006 - 19:21:38) I have a brilliant yoghurt maker bought from lakeland and if you eat a lot of yoghurt why not consider making your own? It would not have any sugar or artificial sweetners or thickers or additives so it would not taste like Sainsburys yoghurt. It is a fallacy that shop bought yoghurt is healthy, it isnt, just as well might eat a pudding instead! same as the cereal bars-full of sugar!

Re: Sainsbury's advertising - andrew ellis (13th Aug 2006 - 11:13:48) Steve leeds got a draw on tues night i blame sainsburys

Re: Sainsbury's advertising - Steve Read (13th Aug 2006 - 13:05:56) The caves are through what is now Radford Park past the footpath from Malthouse, on the left hand side on the old hospital grounds. Not sure if you can still get access to them easily or if you are allowed. Used to be up there playing when we were kids, a long, long, time ago. Finchie, I feel for you mate you must be distraught. I hope you can face to carry on with your life in the wake of this disasterous announcement from that evil empire called Sainsbury's. Andrew, Come on be sensible, did you reallly expect Leeds to win!

Re: Sainsbury's advertising - andrew ellis (15th Aug 2006 - 17:24:05) Steve i to played in those caves and even camped there over night . they were on land that belonged to hewshott house not sure if you can get there without permision but they were still there a few years ago but seemed smaller!!!!!

Re: Sainsburys advertising - Julie Joyce (6th Sep 2006 - 09:25:57) On the subject of their huge hoardings, I suggested to their 'manager' this morning ([editor removed] utterly unhelpful young man called [editor removed], who personally I think would be better employed cleaning the toilets) that, since, in line with Tesco's (can't they think of a strategy of their own, by the way?) they've stopped offering casback at the tills, (from this morning, and without any notice) and their cash machine isn't working, they could put a notice on the door, advising their customers of this. I was told they were going to put notices on the tills (i.e. when you've already gone through the shop) and no, they couldn't possibly put a notice on the door. A lot of older customers rely on cashback for their money; I'll be shopping at Somerfields in future.

Re: Sainsburys advertising - Liphook.co.uk editor (7th Sep 2006 - 15:03:25) Sainsbury's 'legal team' had the audacity to call us and request the removal of an unpleasant personal opinion and the managers' name from the post above. After some deliberation here, we decided to comply out of good will, hence the editors comments on the above message. Liphook.co.uk Editor

Re: Sainsbury's advertising - Paul Robinson (7th Sep 2006 - 19:08:19) I am not surprised that Sainsbury's asked for the comments to be removed from this thread. I thought they were unnecessarilly rude and unwarrented. No doubt they were composed in frustration at the shortcomings of Sainsbury's in not giving notice of the cessation of cashback. This was no doubt a head office decision and not one taken at local level arbitrarily just to inconvenience their customers. If, as it seems Sainsbury's, or their staff, read this site then perhaps they would care to make a contribution and tell their customers what is going on. If they don't then we will know what they think of their customers. Paul Robinson

Re: Sainsbury's advertising - katy (7th Sep 2006 - 19:46:23) Power to the Liphook website - it's got Sainsburys running scared. Perhaps we should name and shame the chief ex next. PS If they read this perhaps they could mend the lights down the side of the building that lead to the council office and car park, they have been out of order for 2 and a half years and it is pitch black down there. Can't wait for somneone to trip and fall and hurt themselves then see what the legal team think about that when they get sued!

Re: Sainsbury's advertising - william (7th Sep 2006 - 23:21:36) Re: Julie’s colourful description on their manager. I saw your post yesterday morning and I thought it was maybe a bit harsh to use those words, let alone very immature, I have no doubt that if one was to make such a comment about you…. whatever you looked like. Then go on to say you would be better off doing something else (i.e. cleaning toilets) because you are awful at your job (one’s opinion) and paste it on the local community website, how would you feel? Does anybody remember when we had to travel 1 hour round trip to get to a decent food shop? (Please do not say we have Sommerfield – ok for odd bits, but not a good weekly shop – not to mention the dangerous car park, many a time my trolley rolling across the car park) I welcomed Sainsbury’s and many of my friends feel the same. Their customer service is brill, if I have a problem in finding a product they do their best to get it for me, in fact they have even went to Farnham to pickup some wine for me because they had sold out. As someone said previously ‘Sainsbury’s gets blamed for the weather!’ Give them a break, wait and see what happens when the extension is complete. As for the coffee shop, I went into Sainsbury’s and asked about the coffee shop it is going at the front of the shop…..stop speculating... talk to them…..

Re: Sainsbury's advertising - Chris (8th Sep 2006 - 07:00:31) Congratulations Sainsburys! Are all of your management staff trained to display such breathtaking aggogance in the face of adversity? There are scores of internet based forums where opinions about you are posted freely, including a number that deal directly with consumer complaints. If you spent your time trawling around trying to get every bad word about yourselves removed from public view you wouldn't have time to do anything else. As an organisation that deals with and makes a lot of money out of the public, you should expect some comeback from people who don't always appreciate your sometimes unique approach to customer relations. More importantly, you should learn to deal with setbacks in a more reasoned and mature manner. Shame on you!

Re: Sainsbury's advertising - vicky (8th Sep 2006 - 09:26:05) I agree with William, firstly I find Sainsbury's excellent service and the Paul, Julie mentioned very nice, and may I ask Julie what on earth is wrong in cleaning toilets, she makes it sound as if its a job only for idiots, it is a job after all and someone has to do it, my grandmother was a well respected, intelligent, clean and very popular lady, but due to the lack of jobs in the 30's cleaned toilets. I only hope Julie does not have to resort to that in order to shop at sainsbury's or pay any bills! Thank you Sainsbury's and the manager for your excellent service

Re: Sainsbury's advertising - S (8th Sep 2006 - 12:21:47) I just WISH Sainsbury's would employ their staff to fill the Liphook shop up rather than leaving it half empty most of the time. If they paid more attention to this they would make more money and wouldn't need to expand. Sainsburys also seem to be publishing the fact that they are looking to finish with local home produce and buy organic stuff in from other places to keep it much cheaper, for them or us?

Re: Sainsbury's advertising - Mike Grimes (8th Sep 2006 - 16:39:15) I noticed, today, that Sainsbury's were offering cashback at the kiosk, I don't know about the other tills.

Re: Sainsbury's advertising - Jane G (8th Sep 2006 - 17:47:21) From what I understood from being in the store the other day they are no longer offering cashback at the tills, but if you ask for it you can get it...that seemed to be what the notice on the till implied.

Re: Sainsbury's advertising - Freddie Dawkins (8th Sep 2006 - 18:26:16) Hi, Mike - They were doing cashback yesterday (Thursday) at all the tills, as the atm was not working outside. What has struck me this week, having to pop into Sainsbury's several times, has been just how busy the store is. The car park's been almost full and the petrol station seems to have constant queues. Does anyone know why Liphook Bakers in Station Road has been closed for the last few days? Is Mark okay? rgds Freddie

Re: Sainsbury's advertising - Steve Read (8th Sep 2006 - 20:21:21) Freddie, Thought you were a Lidl's man from your earlier posting, what were you doing popping into the evil empire. In reply to your surprise at seeing so many people in the store and garage I might be able to help you out there. Its because a great many people in Liphook and surrounding areas actually like shopping there. Forget all the nonsense about hoardings or which yoghurts are out of stock and are the shelves half full or half empty, who cares. The majority of people use it. All the time that happens Sainsburys are here to stay. For those that don't, get in your cars and go somewhere else. Or am I missing something here and its more complicated than that. As for Julie's comments I'am sure Somerfield's will be glad to see you. Her actions are exactly what I'am on about, if your not happy move on.

Re: Sainsbury's advertising - Eneida (9th Sep 2006 - 09:08:06) I visited Tesco in Bordon, for the first time, yesterday and found it to be in a different league. Put it this way....if Liphook's Sainsburys were England, Bordon's Tesco would be Andorra....Brasil is, by far and away, Farnham's Waitrose ;) Eneida

Re: Sainsbury's advertising - Mike Grimes (9th Sep 2006 - 12:21:17) As far as I know, Mark is fine. He is merely enjoying an annual break and as he is the only one who can bake then he has to close the shop. He re-opens on 20th September.

Re: Sainsbury's advertising - Chris (9th Sep 2006 - 22:17:57) Re: Julie’s colourful description on their manager. I saw your post yesterday morning and I thought it was maybe a bit harsh to use those words, let alone very immature, I have no doubt that if one was to make such a comment about you…. whatever you looked like. Then go on to say you would be better off doing something else (i.e. cleaning toilets) because you are awful at your job (one’s opinion) and paste it on the local community website, how would you feel? Does anybody remember when we had to travel 1 hour round trip to get to a decent food shop? (Please do not say we have Sommerfield – ok for odd bits, but not a good weekly shop – not to mention the dangerous car park, many a time my trolley rolling across the car park) I welcomed Sainsbury’s and many of my friends feel the same. Their customer service is brill, if I have a problem in finding a product they do their best to get it for me, in fact they have even went to Farnham to pickup some wine for me because they had sold out. As someone said previously ‘Sainsbury’s gets blamed for the weather!’ Give them a break, wait and see what happens when the extension is complete. As for the coffee shop, I went into Sainsbury’s and asked about the coffee shop it is going at the front of the shop…..stop speculating... talk to them…..

Re: Sainsbury's advertising - Freddie Dawkins (10th Sep 2006 - 14:00:48) Hi, Mike - Good news about Mark. Am getting quite "crusty-roll deprived!" I still do the majority of my shopping at Lidl's - actually in Old Kent Road at the moment, which is bigger than the Bordon branch. And Steve, I was shopping at Sainsbury's - always have done - for odds and ends but still prefer Lidl's for the choice and prices. The check out supervisor in Sainsbury's was telling me this week that some of the building work is about a month behind schedule but most of the changes should be implemented before Christmas. On the new car park system - can someone tell the blue BMW 5 series driver who flew out of the car park on Thursday morning - the wrong way! - and probably in excess of 30mph, that he left a lady in a red Nissan snarling at his boorish behaviour. Let's hope he doesn't come back. rgds to all Freddie

Re: Sainsbury's advertising - Raman (11th Sep 2006 - 21:15:51) I don't understand why such a cue and cry is raised on Sainsbury and personal remarks made against their employee. If you have a complaint then address it to the concerned people. In my opinion their staff are always courteous. You cannot blame the staff for decisions taken by their bosses.

Re: Sainsbury's advertising - S (12th Sep 2006 - 09:02:18) The whole point of a supermarket is to buy food right? Well if the supermarket does not provide fully stocked shelves at all times then it's whole existance has to be put into question. I couldn't care if the manager wore drag, had pink hair and dare I suggest it supported Manure Utd as long as he employs enough people and has a well organised ship that makes sure all the food and specifically organic shelves are fully stocked at all times. This doesn't happen and hasn't for as long as I can remember, until it does then Sainsburys is just an unsightly eyesore that has no real use to anyone. Perhaps the manager would like to go and take a look at Waitrose in Petersfield where there are lots of staff and the shelves are stacked constantly and nearly always full.

Re: Sainsbury's advertising - Stephen (12th Sep 2006 - 09:15:11) Can forget the actual words that Julie used and go back to the issue that Sainsbury decided that a member of the public - in fact its own customer - does not have the right to publish material critical of them or their staff; and then used a form of blackmail (i.e. our legal budget is bigger than liphook.co.uk's) to suppress such freely given opinion.

Re: Sainsbury's advertising - LippyChick@aol.com (12th Sep 2006 - 18:37:09) I'm with Raman on this. Over the years that I've lived in Liphook I have used Sainsbury's regularly. Yes, there are other supermarkets that are better, for choice and for staff (would disagree with Eneida about Bordon Tesco's though which I use often and always find what I need). I've had my gripes with the store over the years, but on the whole the staff ARE helpful and do their best. I would venture that this is not the place for personal remarks, as that detracts completely from the point that was being made. No one's perfect (even me, but don't tell hubby and kids that) and we all make mistakes sometimes. Retailing isn't an exact science, and whilst you can make the best predictions in the world about what is going to be required at a certain place at a certain time, there are bound to be hiccups, whether they be in the logistics of getting items (especially fresh products) to the store, or in over demand in that particular item. These problems aren't necessarily the store managers fault. I recall being younger, and if the fresh items had been sold in any grocers, butchers, fishmongers etc, then they'd gone. No one was flag waving and hurling personal comments at the manager of the shop, it's just the way that things were. I am prepared to cut Sainsbury's a bit of slack here. I would give them an 8/10 for service and supply, and that's better than most other shops around here. Whilst I am here... I believe that our local butchers closed down shortly before Sainsbury's opened, maybe because they were coming, but they can hardly be held responsible. I did use the local greengrocers when I was first here, but when buying veggies for a Sunday lunch whilst shopping on a Saturday, I expect them to be fresh enough to prepare and eat on the Sunday. They weren't. I subsequently bought my fresh fruit and vegetables at the supermarket, and most of the time am happy with that. Supermarkets are a way of life in the UK in the 21st century. We aren't going to change that, so we have to live with it. There are independent traders in Bordon, Grayshott and Liss if you prefer to keep things that way and continue to see independents on our high street. Lips x

Re: Sainsbury's advertising - Eneida (13th Sep 2006 - 17:25:39) I don't have a problem with Sainsbury's supermarkets in general....there's a splendid one in Cobham I go to now and then....but I do have a problem with the Liphook store, because in common with many other people here, I think their stock replacing system leaves a lot to be desired and it makes me sooooooooo mad when I find an empty space just where something I've gone in to buy should be. If other Sainsburys can manage to refill their shelves why can't Liphooks ??? And Lips as far as Bordon's baby Tesco is concerned, I suppose it's fine if you just want the basics....I prefer a bit of class ;) Eneida

Re: Sainsbury's advertising - Nat (13th Sep 2006 - 20:06:19) what is it with people not being able to drive in the right direction never mind on the correct side of the road its like being in another country but no its sainsburys carpark!! Also whilst i was waiting at the counter on tuesday night i noticed a shabby sheet of papper pinned up stating that if you required cash back you must ask for it when handing over your card!! surely it comes under the "good customer service" section of the sainsburys manual for employies to ask if the customer would like cash back maybe????

Re: Sainsbury's advertising - Freddie Dawkins (14th Sep 2006 - 15:57:54) Now, now, Ladies - you´re both classy. Let´s not start sniping!

Re: Sainsbury's advertising - Eneida (15th Sep 2006 - 08:04:12) No Parish Council mediation necessary Freddie....Lips is lovely and a good friend of mine....my remark was, of course, TIC :) Eneida

Re: Sainsbury's advertising - LippyChick (15th Sep 2006 - 08:26:09) Hi Eneida Tescos Finest range (including their fantastic Potato Dauphinoise), hot rotisserie chicken and a superb wine range....worth a trip in their own right ;) Shall have to invite you to dinner someday! Now that they've done away with their dismal cafe Tesco in Bordon is a far classier place to be Lips x

Re: Sainsbury's advertising - rob begley (16th Sep 2006 - 00:05:42) how many people on here have actually spent the time to speak to the staff in the sainsburys store and find out why they are not able to fill up the store to the JS stores standards? i have spoken to one of the managers in the shop and have been told when the store went for planning permission 8 years ago, they were told they were not able to have night deliverys due to the noise levels for local residents in the area to the store. they have to have day deliveries, and with the people in the store all day, its is hard to put all the stock out. in my opinion they do there best in a difficult situation. and they are not having a starbucks or a or costa, its a just regular sainsburys coffee shop.

Re: Sainsbury's advertising - Mike Grimes (16th Sep 2006 - 00:47:47) This is surely not worth going all the way to Bordon for. Nip out to General wine for the wine whilst :- Roast your chicken according to the instuctions on the label. (you can buy a packet of those chemicals they put on the outside if you want) Potato Dauphinoise au gratin. 2 lbs of potatoes, peeled and sliced thinly 1 pint double cream 1 bulb garlic, peeled, chopped or crushed Gruyere cheese, grated Preheat oven to 160 C. Grease a dish with butter. Put down layers of potato, with a good amount of chopped/crushed garlic between each layer. When finished, pour in the pint of double cream and cover the top with a good layer of grated cheese. Whack in the oven for about an hour (until the cheese has browned nicely). You can add black pepper, grated nutmeg, or fresh thyme with the garlic if you want.

Re: Sainsbury's advertising - LippyChick (16th Sep 2006 - 12:18:28) Hi Mike Thanks for the recipes - although I do already have my own ;) Cooking is one of my passions. However, after working a 12 hour day I don't always have the time (or indeed energy) to create a culinary masterpiece - so the Tesco's version works fine for me on those occasions :) Lips x

Re: Sainsbury's advertising - Freddie Dawkins (16th Sep 2006 - 13:41:04) Mike - You´re a real Indian foodie lover. What about one of your all time favourite recipes from the sub-Continent? cheers Freddie

Re: Sainsbury's advertising - Mike Grimes (19th Sep 2006 - 01:09:17) It's amazing how "off topic" we have got. The secret to cooking a good curry is onions. Take your favourite curry recipe and it might say use "two medium onions". Try using 6-8 large ones, chop them and cook them slowly in ghee (or clarified butter) for about an hour. Then carry on with the recipe, replacing chilli powder with fresh chillies (the variety determining the "hotness"). You should find that what was your favourite curry recipe is not your favourite any more.

Re: Sainsbury's advertising - Chris (19th Sep 2006 - 12:46:56) ...or for the unadventurous amongst us, try some of the Lloyd Grossman curry sauces (with your own onions of course). Simply the best! Chris (no relation to Lloyd Grossman).

Re: Sainsbury's advertising - Mike Grimes (20th Sep 2006 - 01:26:08) Heston Blumenthal's sauces are surely on their way. He has already filmed a TV series - it's just the start. Snail porridge coming to a freezer cabinet near you. Loyd Grossman's curry sauces? I've never tried them but check the label, if onion is not the major ingredient then you'll have to add some. If hydrogenated vegetable oil or modified starch is, then you'll have to take some of that out. Already done it, then eat a handful of Goji berries (eqivalent to about 100 of your 5 a day) available at a few selected Tescos. Tesco Bordon? - perhaps not. Lidl? Maybe, when they're in tins.

Re: Sainsbury's advertising - Eneida (20th Sep 2006 - 09:11:51) My husband is very fond of Loyd Groosman's curry sauces, but I've banned them from the house....I don't like to wake up next to someone smelling like a dustbin ;) Eneida

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