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Panic Buying (petrol) at Sainsburys
- Dawn Hoskins (29th Mar 2012 - 09:48:28)

If you wondered why the road was blocked right down to the Chinese Take-away in one direction and back past the Mellenium Green in the other it is becuase so many people are queuing for petrol that the normal grocery shoppers can't enter the carpark.

Perfectly well timed to cause school run havoc!

Re: Panic Buying (petrol) at Sainsburys
- Tony (29th Mar 2012 - 10:03:09)

I just filled up at Sainsbury's in line with government advice issued today that we all fill our tanks now. The price of Diesel was £1.49.9 when just two days ago I paid £1.45.9. Is this profiteering and isn't that illegal? It may not sound a lot but on 60 litres that's a few pounds multiplied by millions across the country, someone's on a nice little earner. I'm not sure we're all in this together. Government and petrol industry ripping us off again?

Re: Panic Buying (petrol) at Sainsburys
- liz (29th Mar 2012 - 10:34:51)

A good story for the national press to get their teeth into perhaps and embarass the retailers.

Re: Panic Buying (petrol) at Sainsburys
- jezza (29th Mar 2012 - 13:38:54)


Why don't we boycott Sainsburys,they have been ripping us of for years,there are a few petrol stations nearby,the rich get richer the poor get poorer!

Re: Panic Buying (petrol) at Sainsburys
- h (29th Mar 2012 - 14:55:31)

The petrol tanker drivers have not gone on strike yet, they have to give 7 days notice, during which time we can fill up our cars! I think that we should in the event of a strike consider car sharing measures, and perhaps getting each other's shopping etc to save a few journeys.

Re: Panic Buying (petrol) at Sainsburys
- jo herridge (29th Mar 2012 - 17:48:01)

If they do strike by the time that happens a lot of those panic buying now will do the same then as they would have used some of their fuel if not most of it. It really doesn't make sense. Man in one garage told me today they will run out if people continue to do this. (I only put 13 litres to get me to the weekend).
And the traffic chaos that causes is not even funny.

Re: Panic Buying (petrol) at Sainsburys
- Chris S (29th Mar 2012 - 17:48:24)

On Saturday I was at Sainsbury's and the price for diesel was £1.49. At that price I decided not to fill up. Doh!

I drove past the Shell and Jet station in Bordon today at lunchtime and there were queues onto the road so again didn't fill up.

So lots of panic buying yes ! Price wise it just seems to go up and up.


Re: Panic Buying (petrol) at Sainsburys
- may (31st Mar 2012 - 10:41:21)

Everyone should refuse to buy it and bring the country to a standstill maybe that way we could get rid of Cameron and Co

Re: Panic Buying (petrol) at Sainsburys
- Paul Robinson (31st Mar 2012 - 15:04:01)

Seen this morning at Shell filling station at Weyhill.

£1.509 per litre! Is this a record?

I vote that when sanity is restored, we boycott those filling stations that have profiteered from this Government induced madness.

Paul Robinson

Re: Panic Buying (petrol) at Sainsburys
- h (31st Mar 2012 - 15:15:52)

I do not know how refusing to buy petrol would help, it would hurt individuals and businesses more that it would David Cameron who lives above his work and uses a bike! . I think the government did cause every one to panic buy without good enough reason.

Re: Panic Buying (petrol) at Sainsburys
- The Voice of Reason (31st Mar 2012 - 19:18:06)

Anyone who has panic-filled their cars this week should hang their heads in shame and take a long hard look in the mirror. YOU are the problem, there was never any reason to do this, no strike has even been announced yet. Please, please, please think more carefully before reacting like this to the unnecessary scaremongering of the media. Just another example of selfish Britain, "I'm more important than anyone else and am doing more important things therefore I must have petrol.". Think about it - as yet there really has been no need. Don't act like sheep, think for yourselves and think of others!

Re: Panic Buying (petrol) at Sainsburys
- Vic (1st Apr 2012 - 11:22:40)

Well said 'Voice of reason'!
I am astonished that beacuse ONE MP makes an ill-advised comment the entire country loses all ability to use common sense. Lets face it the public rarely believes anything MPs say - when it suits!
If there is no strike called why rush to fill your tank? It'll only be empty again by the time they do......IF they do!

Re: Panic Buying (petrol) at Sainsburys
- Sarah (1st Apr 2012 - 12:55:48)

I haven't panic bought this week and found myself caught out when my petrol light came on and I genuinely had to queue to go and fill up.

However, in light of the government advice at the time, I can fully understand anyone with a business relying on transport who did feel the need to keep topped up with petrol and essentially 'panic' buy. It is very easy for anyone who can make do without a car to cast blame, but people who have to drive all day or who cannot get the train or bus to work can't risk losing a day or week of their livelihood. Members of my family are builders/decorators and cannot risk being unable to get to work.

So telling people to 'hang their heads in shame' is all very easy for those of us who do not rely on vehicles for a livelihood.

Re: Panic Buying (petrol) at Sainsburys
- Diane (1st Apr 2012 - 18:51:17)

Topping up because you have to is not panic buying. Topping up when you wouldn't normally do it ,is panic buying. Now the queues have gone we can go and top up if there is any left at the garages. E mail from a relative, where am I going to put the Petrol my bath is already full up with Pasties and Stamps?

Re: Panic Buying (petrol) at Sainsburys
- The Voice of Reason (1st Apr 2012 - 20:29:37)

Sarah, thanks for taking the time to respond but you yourself are clearly part of the problem and should hang your head in shame - not for filling your car up if you were low on fuel but for not understanding why those who were (and are) panic buying are unnecessarily causing a problem for everyone else. I commute by car out of necessity and am paid daily so if I cannot get to work, I won't get paid. I can walk, use a bike, use the bus and the train to travel the 44 miles I need to get to work if I cannot use my car. Yes, it's hassle and yes, it's not as convenient as my car but if need be, it can be done. You use the example of builders needing to get to work. Actually, in a real fuel crisis (remember this is not one yet) then the most urgent requirement lies with the emergency services, not builders or anyone similar. Plus, it is the panic buying of selfish and ill informed people, such as the builders in your example, who fear for a difficult few days travelling to work and perhaps a loss of some income that cause a problem for everyone else. I make no apologies for this inconvenient truth for you but with your mindset, you are part of the problem too. Nobody but nobody so far has had any rational excuse for panic buying. Those that have are ill informed at best and selfish - think rationally, be informed and look at the bigger picture PLEASE!

Re: Panic Buying (petrol) at Sainsburys
- liz (2nd Apr 2012 - 09:09:14)

Voice of Reason

So its OK for you to buy petrol as you need your car for work and its too much 'hassle' to get the train. Don't you think its much the same for others or, in many cases there is no alternative form of transport? If you don't think you are part of the 'problem' as you call it you, have got your 'reasonable' head stuck firmly in the sand.

Re: Panic Buying (petrol) at Sainsburys
- The Voice of Reason (2nd Apr 2012 - 09:56:04)

Liz

What post did you read to come up with that response? I haven't panic bought and am annoyed and frustrated by those who have. I will use bus, bike, feet, whatever to get to work if necessary and that's what I have been saying. Jeez!

Re: Panic Buying (petrol) at Sainsburys
- liz (2nd Apr 2012 - 10:37:53)

Voice of Reason

So you didn't buy any petrol last week? In which case I apologise. But if you have a 88 mile round trip to and from work you must have had a reasonable amount of petrol in your car to start with last week (which I guess was the case) or you resorted to catching the train. Many people don't have that option and are totally reliant on their car. I too am not totally reliant on a car but hopefully am not smug about it.

Re: Panic Buying (petrol) at Sainsburys
- marian c (2nd Apr 2012 - 12:28:20)

There are people who work in the community such as GPs, district nurses and health visitors who very much rely on cars to get to and from visits. In a lot of the rural areas doing visits relying on public transport is not an option. Many of these workers are expected to complete a number of visits per day. They have been told by their managers to "panic buy" to ensure that they do not end up not being able to do their job. Perhaps the next time the government advises us to top up our tanks they need to think of the wider repercussions or ensure that "essential" users don't need to become part of the problem.

Re: Panic Buying (petrol) at Sainsburys
- Sarah (2nd Apr 2012 - 13:07:22)

Voice of Reason

I fully understand that panic buyers have caused a problem for everyone else. However, you need to understand some of the reasons behind people panic buying. I will certainly not 'hang my head in shame' for understanding that many people need to ensure they have a supply of petrol in their car - whether they are important emergency/healthcare workers or, at this stage (pre-potential strike) people who need to ensure that they can get to ordinary work or they won't get paid.

As a previous respondent said to you, there is a smugness in your response at your ability to cope with the situation whilst you assume all others are panicking idiots. It is the government and their poor advice that is to blame for the crisis, not people who acted on that advice.

Re: Panic Buying (petrol) at Sainsburys
- The Voice of Reason (2nd Apr 2012 - 16:02:15)

Sarah - what's to be smug about? That makes no sense whatsoever. There is and can be no justification for the panic buying that went on last week and your attempt to do so is pathetic. It is precisely the fact that some people have a more urgent requirement for petrol than others that makes the panic buying of those others even more disgraceful - and it's only done for selfish reasons. Many, many, many of those panic buying were doing so not because they had no alternative way to travel to work, for instance, but because they were not prepared to entertain an alternative method of travel to work. And this then has the knock on effect of causing problems for others, it's purely selfish behaviour and that's an inconvenient truth many like yourself are unable to accept. If being prepared to find an alternative method of getting to work (which involves walking, 2 trains and then a bus by the way) makes me "smug" then so be it. I actually think it makes me sensible and pragmatic. But I'm sure you'll continue to justify your actions to yourself because most people these days couldn't give a monkey's about anyone other than themselves...that's much less painful than questioning yourself and admitting you may just have acted inappropriately.

Re: Panic Buying (petrol) at Sainsburys
- liz (2nd Apr 2012 - 16:40:21)

Voice of Reason

It was me, not Sarah. Exactly my point, nothing to be smug about - but you have set yourself above everyone else. Perhaps you have no kids to take to school, elderly people relying on your visits, key services to run etc etc. With the government advising people (badly, it turns out) to stock up, if the strike had gone ahead the story could have been very different.

Re: Panic Buying (petrol) at Sainsburys
- Sarah (2nd Apr 2012 - 16:41:21)

Please re-read my original post - I haven't panic bought and have no need to. I simply said that I understand SOME of those people who have 'panic' bought and their reasons for it - I did not justify all panic buying. I have nothing to apologise for and your slightly aggressive attitude is quite unnecessary.

My point was that some people have no alternative way to get to work. I would like to see a builder, or decorator, transporting all their equipment on the bus/walk/train option you suggest. It is not as cut and dried for everyone as you are making out.


Re: Panic Buying (petrol) at Sainsburys
- h (2nd Apr 2012 - 16:45:41)

I think that there was stupidity in the announcement at that time to top up cars, there was no announced strike. I do agree that we are selfish and I do believe had the worst come to the worst, petrol delivered by the army would have been understandably given in the first instance to those working in emergency situations. It would make sense for all of us to consider electric cars, and car sharing.

Re: Panic Buying (petrol) at Sainsburys
- nick (2nd Apr 2012 - 18:15:11)

Cant understand why this problem arose commonsence tells me to ignore the suggestions made by who ever.
didnt know there was a problem till this thread appeared
i filled up as normal on wednesday, no queue .
excuses that have ben made seem a little pathetic to me if you are low on fuel fillup dont leave it till someone says tanker strike you have a brain try and use it and stop blaming others for your ignorance.
I wonder what would happen if there was a shortage of other life saving commodities kike food

Re: Panic Buying (petrol) at Sainsburys
- Tony (2nd Apr 2012 - 18:49:22)

Face it there are loads of us who NEED their cars and it\'s easy if you don\'t absolutely need it to be higher and mighty. I drive a taxi and without which don\'t earn any money. Try telling my family sorry I chose not to fill up so that someone else could, no money coming in, bills to pay. Try telling all the people who need a cab that we didn\'t bother filling up. People rely on us too. Same with loads of other people, if the government says fill up now because maybe you can\'t tommorrow it would be foolish not to.
Anyway my main point is that Sainsburys seemed to be profiteering out of our vulnerability which for a big local store seems a bit short sighted to me. I for one will remember that.

Re: Panic Buying (petrol) at Sainsburys
- The Voice of Reason (2nd Apr 2012 - 19:03:00)

Sorry, can't respond to this thread any more. Must dash to Sainsbury's, it's definitely going to snow this week so I need to buy 14 litres of milk for the freezer and a couple of pallets of beans in case we can't get down the shops for 6 months...

Re: Panic Buying (petrol) at Sainsburys
- Eneida (2nd Apr 2012 - 19:36:36)

Voice of Reason,

If you're going to freeze milk do make sure you leave a couple of inches head room in the container, otherwise you could end up with an exploded mess.

Can't give any advice on beans, as I never eat them, but I believe they can be quite explosive too ...

Re: Panic Buying (petrol) at Sainsburys
- james (2nd Apr 2012 - 23:27:32)

Ref the price of diesel at Sainsbury\"s. I believe their policy is to match the nearest competitor, and as they don\'t actually have one, they charge the maximum at the Liphook store. However it is hard to justify being the most expensive anywhere. The only petrol filling station I have seen more expensive is the one at Junction place at Haslemere. Even the Shell garage on the A3 is cheaper most of the time. Time to make a statement.

Re: Panic Buying (petrol) at Sainsburys
- jules (6th Apr 2012 - 09:54:24)

Have you lot not got anything better to do than to go around comparing prices!!! It is quite simple if you need petrol buy it, does it really matter that if you drive 5 more miles up the road you can save 2p a litre. Is this not wasting your savings by driving further!!!!

Re: Panic Buying (petrol) at Sainsburys
- liz (6th Apr 2012 - 10:22:30)

Jules

I take it maths and budgeting is not your best subject!

Re: Panic Buying (petrol) at Sainsburys
- jules (6th Apr 2012 - 11:15:25)

This really is sad! The point i am making is that why drive further to save money on petrol that is 2p cheaper (which is just an example by the way!!!) when you are wasting what you would have saved in the first place by trying to find cheaper petrol!!!!!! not only that but petrol at sainsburys yesterday was 140.9 and Bordon was at 143.9 which is nearly 5 or 6 miles away and i think if i have got my maths right is 2p difference!!

Re: Panic Buying (petrol) at Sainsburys
- h (6th Apr 2012 - 14:08:47)

The point of the thread really is why people were so panicked before there was even a strike. It was political manipulation, and I would rather not respond, and we should be lobbying politicians to lower the tax on petrol, as crude oil prices are going down not up! sometimes when there is a panic I wonder if it is a ruse to make us buy more petrol if sales are flagging!

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