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Parish Council and The Herald - Jane G (8th Mar 2012 - 18:18:06) I have just picked up a copy of The Herald and what an utter load of old tosh on the front page! Having read some weeks ago on Talkback (Editor perhaps you could publish the link again?) the factual account of what went on with the clerk and the vast costs that the former Parish Council ran up relating to the payments made to him, I cannot believe such biased reporting is called for. This document made it very clear that the previous Parish Council acted outside their remit in withholding the 'whistle blowing' document and clearly made some very large errors of judgement when it came to keeping the clerk in employment. It has become very apparent to me that this new Parish Council have been trying to resolve these matters and yet they are getting all the stick for it! It is very interesting that both Jeremy Austin-Olsen and Dr Sangita Judge resigned last year when they were both members of the previous council. Their actions, and their actions alone, caused us taxpayers to fork out nearly £10k for a by-election!! They had only been appointed in May so doesn't say a lot about their commitment to our community. I also object very strongly to the slurs about the new Parish Council website. My understanding, again from reading the official information, is that Dr John Tough may have updated the PC website when he was a councillor, but he refused to hand over passwords to the new Parish Council so they were forced to build a new website from scratch. Again, Dr Tough, hardly very community spirited!! The whole article in The Herald is completely biased, vitriolic and the information selected has clearly been heavily edited to put blame for any wrongdoings on our current PC when actually they appear to have inherited a whole host of problems which they are having to rectify. It would seem that Gabrielle Pike has been conservative with the facts to achieve her own pre-determined outcome. A disgraceful state of affairs in my opinion! Did you mean Accounts & Annual Return Working Party There is an amended version available on the BLPC website - bramshottandliphook-pc.gov.uk/...

Re: Parish Council and The Herald - h (9th Mar 2012 - 01:54:07) I think that the new Parish Council website is a huge improvement on the old one which looked an amateurish home effort, no wonder they wanted to upgrade, it was not suitable for this day and age. Dr Tough did not get voted in,April -November last year he was not a councillor so why should the parish Council have him run it anyway? As far as I recall Dr Judge turned up to meetings very infrequently anyway, after she left the surgery had no connection with Liphook, as she lives in Haslemere.

Re: Parish Council and The Herald - liz (9th Mar 2012 - 08:21:51) I have given up buying the Herald as I got so fed up with Ms Pike's so called 'reporting'. I wish they would assign someone else to Liphook! If it is true that Dr Tough refused to hand over passwords it is quite shocking that anyone would be so petty ... but at least the new website is a great improvement!

Re: Parish Council and The Herald - Alan (9th Mar 2012 - 09:22:08) For comparison purposes the old Council site (as designed and updated by John Tough when he was a Councillor) can be seen here - bramshottandliphook-pc.gov.uk/OLD_WEBSITE The current web site is here - bramshottandliphook-pc.gov.uk We charged the Council £500 for the new design and moving ALL the old content over to it, including reviving a number of lost Agendas. This was way below the true market value for such a website. We are not charging the Council for the ongoing hosting costs or any costs to make amendments to the site. Alan Baker Dark Group Ltd

Re: Parish Council and The Herald - D Advocate (9th Mar 2012 - 10:46:50) Whilst I agree with the basic sentiment regarding Ms Pike's journalistic neutrality, my gaze was dragged away from the lead article to an update on the future career of our former parish council chairman, the erstwhile N. Newman. Is there no limit to this mans talent. He has now emerged as Liphook's very own Mystic Meg and Eileen Drewery rolled into one! I may have missed something back along when he was campaigning for election, but I don't recall him listing fortune telling as one of his stocks-in-trade in his manifesto at the time. And as for him standing for re-election last year; shouldn't he have known he wouldn't get in? A cynic may wonder if this had any bearing on his enthusiasm for the plans for a 600 seat gospel hall at Bohunt Manor. Fascinating. We await the next instalment.

Re: Parish Council and The Herald - h (9th Mar 2012 - 11:17:30) I hope Mr Newman is not trying to charge money for his new venture? There are unfortunately some people who will believe this no matter what, even Doris Stokes has been outed as a fraud.

Re: Parish Council and The Herald - john (9th Mar 2012 - 23:37:08) nigel goes from the parish pump to the psychic realm to tacho romano drom! Newmans latest stunt is to claim gypsy rights for the twin unit mobile home he has sited on land to the rear of allderwood cottage queens road that he lives in. his planners have informed EDHC enforcement that they will be applying shortly. is he for real? i see this as an insult to the traveller community. did he win his legal battle with mr Trodden? it must be hard to find time for all his charity work while travelling the lanes of england.

Re: Parish Council and The Herald - sandy (10th Mar 2012 - 09:14:30) and tonight matthew im going to be a fortune telling gypsy!!

Re: Parish Council and The Herald - Jacques Le Chapeau (10th Mar 2012 - 10:39:05) Relax folks. The photograph is a hoax. It's actually a still from the new Aviva advert with Paul Whitehouse wearing a ginger wig, beard and an expression like an undertaker with haemarrhoids. Very funny man, Mr. Whitehouse Green Army!!!!!!

Re: Parish Council and The Herald - h (13th Mar 2012 - 15:16:00) As Mr Newman owns Alderwood Cottage and has done for some time, why did he not apply for gypsy status straight away? It appears that it will be for an extra house application in due course!

Re: Parish Council and The Herald - Ben (13th Mar 2012 - 17:48:19) According to the Herald it's £25 for him to pretend to talk to your dead relatives or what ever is on offer there.

Re: Parish Council and The Herald - john (15th Mar 2012 - 21:47:12) Its sad to think that any one would pay £25 to hear the rot newman would come out with!

Re: Parish Council and The Herald - Dawn Hoskins (16th Mar 2012 - 12:59:22) This thread was about the inaccuracy, constant bias & mud slinging of the local rag. Why then do people think it OK to carry on with this character assassination? I understand that a lot of decisions were made at the PC during the time that Mr Newman [and 11 others] were seated that people have been questioning. However I do not believe it is right or decent to pursue this into every avenue of this mans' personal life. It is cruel and unnessessary. A new business venture in Liphook is good for Liphook. It will succeed or fail based on the customers who frequent it. By ridiculing the venture - you by default - are ridiculing those who hold the same beleifs. That is not acceptable. Think. Are you writing in the same biased way as the herald - which - we complain so bitterly about [rightly so IMO]? If so - don't. If you have a legitimate complaint then go to the correct authorities. The planning for example - we all know how to deal with that without resorting to behaviour like this.

Re: Parish Council and The Herald - Jock Trodden (18th Mar 2012 - 15:14:38) I could not respond to the front page article from the ever biased Gabrielle Pike until now and would note the following. This journalist appears to be berating the new council over the cost of investigating the (alleged) criminal failings and incompetence of the previous council. From what I can make of she appears to ask “is it worth it” given the cost. Miss Pike has, for some considerable time, been reporting in such an obvious biased way in favour of Groves, Newman, Tough, James. Amey, Osten-Olsen and Co., one would think she was involved in their dubious schemes. It then came as no surprise, on the same page 1 that a new business which appears to be in the form of a holistic healing outfit, headed up by the mystic, psychic “Gypsy Newman”, were to open in Liphook. What an advert! Has any other business starting up in Liphook area had such coverage? I think not. I am particularly disappointed Miss Pike has printed something (Para 3) which she knows, or ought to know, is complete nonsense. She wrote “After stepping down as chairman in February last year to take legal action after “false and defamatory” allegations were made against him on the internet........” I am the person who asked 3 legitimate questions in January 2010 (NOT Allegations) of Newman in an open Liphook Council meeting. It is true to say he resigned. It is also true to say he took legal action against me by way of a Pre Protocol for Defamation of Character which I had to defend. I was warned by my barrister that if Newman could prove any of the points I had raised in my questions then he could sue me for six figures. He had 1 year from 19th January 2011 to issue and he has not done so. There is a very good reason why he did not take the matter further; he knows it is all true. Perhaps Newman could look into his crystal ball and answer 2 questions. 1: Will he get the “Gypsy status” he is applying for regarding the new detached, self contained residential home he has built, without planning permission or consent, in the rear garden of his home, Alderwood. 2: Who is setting fire to my Company vehicles? -SEE THREAD “ARSON ON HAYLING”-9 cases of arson to date. It would appear I have upset someone. Maybe a crystal ball would be superfluous. Jock Trodden JTS Civil Engineering Ltd

Re: Parish Council and The Herald - andy (19th Mar 2012 - 09:28:49) Mr trodden how strange to have you back on here with your usual bias and untrue statements it is a matter of record on tape you did not ask 3 valid questions you made several spiteful and untrue allegations.. This is a matter of fact all available to any member of public on application from the council office. Every allegation you made has subsequently been altered or withdrawn!! This was sufficient for Mr Newman to no longer wish to purse you it was never about money, if you cannot recall this please confer with your solicitor. Example you accused Mr Newman of burying hundreds of thousands of tons of toxic waste on his land subsequently changed to I think he buried some white goods! It’s a JOKE however what’s not a joke is your silence over your own past it really is time that you put us straight as a matter of public record on whether or not you have criminal convictions??? And if so what for??? Is it not true that some of the people who you regularly have a go at on this site have actually gone to the police because you threated them? Come on where’s your crb check… do you remember working on the Isle of Wight? and your after work parties? And what’s your involvement with john and unlawful service connections?? Your living in a glass house and throwing too many stones.. do you really wonder why you are so disliked!! it will all come back to haunt you!! And only you would mock charity work which last saturday's event was hence the press coverage you are clearly ignorant of the true exent of Mr Newmans good works and true nature, this being a very private side to a man your clearly very jealous of! P.s Dawn H up until now I have never been a fan of yours however all of that has changed with your last posting, common sense unbiased trueful straight talking, well done.

Re: Parish Council and The Herald - andy (19th Mar 2012 - 10:11:31) Another lie put out by Mr trodden is that Mr Newman is himself claiming gypsy rights this is totally untrue no such application has been made. Mr Newman takes great pride in all his friends gypsy’s included, I have never known him to pretend to be one!!

Re: Parish Council and The Herald - bdavis (19th Mar 2012 - 13:18:20) It would appear that the only council tax charge increase for this coming fiscal year is that in relation to the services we get from the Parish Council (I received my eagerly awaited bill last Friday). What do we get for our extra 5-6%?

Re: Parish Council and The Herald - h (19th Mar 2012 - 18:57:36) I think we should now concentrate on the biased reporting of the herald too, and Mr Trodden does have a point, which other business gets front page free publicity? A true medium would not open a shop and degrade spiritualism in such a commercial way. People with the true gift do not charge a fee in this way, they may make it clear they have expenses and then it is up to you to donate something afterwards. I worked with a lady who had the gift and when she had second sight about something it was always information imparted without her ever dreaming of charging for that information.

Re: Parish Council and The Herald - simon (19th Mar 2012 - 23:04:00) Time & time again miss pike reports in the herald in the same way backing the same people. It makes one wonder what the link is.It is easy to see why this makes people angry.

Re: Parish Council and The Herald - D. Advocate (20th Mar 2012 - 01:03:29) Simon, It is a mystery why Ms Pike should be pontifficating the views of some whose reputations in public life have recently waned. The corelation, I suppose, is that Ms Pike is/was a journalistic colleague of Jenny Mouland, sometimes contributer to The Herald, who is the spouse of Bill Mouland, sometimes contributer to whom-ever will pay him (nothing wrong with that, it's called free-lance) and they all frequent the Deer's Hut.

Re: Parish Council and The Herald - may (20th Mar 2012 - 07:46:47) Well said Andy, I asked Mr. Trodden a question on here, a few months ago now, to which I never recieved a reply. My question was how did he obtain planning permission for his business premises, was it by the usual route, apply and await the decision, or was it by retrospective planning. I will await your answer Mr, Trodden.

Re: Parish Council and The Herald - andy (20th Mar 2012 - 08:04:27) Surprise surprise jock trodden goes quiet again… gives it all the mouth about everyone else’s life and business but when it comes to his own he shuts up!! I wonder why????... COWARD

Re: Parish Council and The Herald - andy (20th Mar 2012 - 08:38:32) Talk about bias the opening function was for charity Ms pike kindly supported this as any normal person would, if you really believe that true mediums don’t charge please go for a day out to Glastonbury, Totnes or Hasting any of these towns you will come across mediums and psychics on an industrial scale! Indeed one of the mediums has travelled and worked in America, Canada, New Zealand, Europe, and the Channel Islands, as well as Great Britain. Mr Newman has never charged (even costs) for any charity, church or funeral works. You really should read articles fully and make yourselves aware of the true nature of people and events rather than going off half-cocked because you have a personal bias, its demeaning to yourselves this website and the people of Liphook, please take the time to find the truth rather than listen to gossips with an agenda!!

Re: Parish Council and The Herald - h (20th Mar 2012 - 13:49:20) By advertising the opening of a shop and linking it to charity does not mean that Mr Newman has never charged for being a medium. Just because a whole industry has grown up around fortune telling etc does this make it authentic because people charge for it? There are many charlatans in this game believe me. There are gullible people who will believe that because there is a shop front it makes it all legit.

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