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Staff vacancies - Peter Whiteley (1st Mar 2012 - 11:34:27) I have Two Job Vacancies coming up.The first Job is for a kitchen cleaner.(This job has to be filled by somebody who is very maticulous about cleaning and a very hard worker,no time wasters please,involves deep cleaning and is only available for persons over 21yrs old 12 hrs a week)The other Job is for a part time waitress/waiter for Sundays and functions.This job will be available in Two weeks time)contact Peter on peter@whiteleysfamilyrestaurant.co.uk ref required.

Re: Staff vacancies - Andrew (4th Mar 2012 - 17:06:29) Hi my name is andrew`i am 50 i have 16 years exps in catering/i have done deep cleaning too .andrew tel 07909982066

Re: Staff vacancies - jake tullett (15th Mar 2012 - 08:45:58) hi i am 17 year old and have experience with dealing with the public i attend southdowns college training to be a sports delvelopment officer . i am available weekends evenings and college holidays i also have a day off on wednesdays and thursday afternnons please contact me on 01428724400 if i can be of any help thanks for your time jake

Re: Staff vacancies - Andrew (15th Mar 2012 - 09:12:27) Hi. Is the vacancy open for the deep cleaner l got 16 years exps In catering and done Deep cleaner at army Camp bordon . Can Someone ring me on 07909982066 Thank you

Re: Staff vacancies - a (15th Mar 2012 - 12:17:07) I'm not being funny guys but putting your details in the reply isn't giving you a good chance of getting this job, Mr. Whiteley has clearly put his contact details there for you to contact him, contact him. If that fails, pop into his restaurant, you must be able to get there as you wish to work there. Andrew you've posted twice on this thread, that tells me you havnt been in to speak to the manager there, go in you are clearly keen on getting a job as you regularly post in search of one. Face to face conversation is more likely to get you noticed by a prospective employer rather than just putting your phone number on a forum. Please go and speak to him, the worst that can happen is he says sorry your not right for the job, all youve lost is an hour or so of your time and you will have got used to talking to a potential employer.

Re: Staff vacancies - lily (17th Mar 2012 - 00:34:04) My oh my! Mr Whiteley has opted to advertise his vacancy on here, for free... So what is the problem with potential employees posting here too? It is hard enough to find a job, and seekers are encouraged to try any means possible. Perhaps Andrew has no access to a phone etc. Maybe he sees, and replies to these posts because he can use the library for internet. The library does not have a phone for you to use. It is about time to take the rosy shades off. Your situ maybe ok, for Andrew, at least he is trying, and I for one, think that is highly commendable, and inspirational. Keep trying Andrew, you will get there in the end!

Re: Staff vacancies - Eneida (17th Mar 2012 - 12:14:03) Since Andrew has posted his phone number twice on this thread we can only assume he does have access to a phone!! Employers appreciate potential employees showing initiative and I can't understand why he hasn't yet phoned Mr Whiteley since he's appears to be so keen to find a job...

Re: Staff vacancies - lily (18th Mar 2012 - 10:42:42) Yes, he obviously has a phone, however, i notice it is not a landline. perhaps he has no credit? i assume Andrew is on jobseekers, which doesnt pay for the luxury of mobile phone top ups! I agree that the best way to get the job would be to apply in person or by phone, but as Mr Whitely posted on here in the first place seeking staff, i dont actually see the harm in responding on here. Alot of advertised jobs require one to send an email and cv, then the employer contacts the potential by email, or phone.

Re: Staff vacancies - Sarah (18th Mar 2012 - 14:36:58) Lily, Since Andrew has replied to this thread requesting Mr Whiteley to phone him twice, and regularly posts threads asking for a job, it is probably fair to assume that he 100% does definately have a working email address. And since he's posted here twice it might also be fair to assume he didn't email Mr Whiteley with his CV etc. the first time.... I really think you are being a bit silly, as even on jobseekers, a £10 top up occasionally for the sole use of phoning an employer to aid you in getting a job is more than reasonable... infact the whole point of jobseekers is to help people to get a job.. I think the point is that while it's fine to post your interest in reply to a job advert on here, you really can't rely on employers making the effort to get back to you, as there are sure to be other people (especially at the moment while so many people are applying for jobs) who will be emailing / calling / turning up on the doorstep to ask about jobs, and you really have to make a big effort to stand out - ie. at the very least making the first effort to get in contact with an employer rather than waiting for them to get back in contact with you..... I just think it's the least you can do if you're serious about getting a job, to contact employers and make every effort to show them you're serious about having the job, and also to perhaps use a spellchecker before advertising yourself, as a bit of good marketing can make all the difference..

Re: Staff vacancies - lily (18th Mar 2012 - 18:13:56) Sarah, If you spend the £10.00 on mobile top up, that may leave you without food. I think it is you who are silly, as you seem to have no idea of the system. Perhaps you budget well enough that you are able to heat, clothe, and feed yourself on £60 something a week. I was made redundant and was forced to jobseekers (i did find employment, no help from them i must add) The system does not help people, they expect them to find train fare/petrol money out of this pittance to attend interviews. So with that in mind, for example,you may spend £10 on the credit to phone the employer, £10 for train fare, that leaves someone with £40 for food, gas, electric. Yes Andrew obviously has access to the internet, I am not so "silly" that I cant figure that out. I thought I had pointed out that maybe he uses the internet because it is free at the library? Whereas a phone is not... Also, have you ever stopped to think that not everyone is not as fortunate as some? In the sense that they may have learning difficulties, disabilities and disadvantages that you or I have never had to suffer. What seems like common sense to people who are not "silly" is not so obvious to some people. I would also like to add, I find your remark about spellchecker a little patronising. This is only the internet, Andrew was looking to clean a kitchen, not be the editor of the Daily Mail. Come on, you dont have to have a degree in English from Cambridge to be able to deep clean a kitchen. I think that is just picky. I do not know Andrew personally, however I know of him, and I know he has difficulties, so I think the smart bottoms should back off and cut him some slack. Talk about kick a man while hes down!

Re: Staff vacancies - may (18th Mar 2012 - 18:57:17) Sarah It would be reasonable to assume also that Mr Whitley will check to see if his add has had a response and since he has had two to maybe reply to them, if the posts have since been filled it would be nice if he could take a few minutes to let that be known. I think some people are a little unrealistic and probably have no idea what it would be like to struggle on benefits, I dont know about having £10 for top ups I think many people today are finding it difficult to just eat every day, a little sympathy wouldnt go amiss, and perhaps some encouragment.

Re: Staff vacancies - janne (18th Mar 2012 - 18:59:52) I agree with Lily. Andrew posts regularly - seems desperate for employment but then fails to follow it through. I\'m an employer and unless I were desperate I wouldn\'t be chasing people that left their details on here and couldn\'t be bothered to ring themselves. When I last advertised a post I had over 100 applicants so I\'d never even consider making a huge effort to contact someone like Andrew who isn\'t proactive!

Re: Staff vacancies - DML (19th Mar 2012 - 14:47:47) Sarahs absolutely right - you can make all the excuses under the sun for Andrew, Lily - but the fact is that in this day and age you can't afford to just sit back and wait - if you can't be bothered to contact an employer direct you won't get the job - simples!

Re: Staff vacancies - liz (19th Mar 2012 - 15:36:31) Lily I don't think anyone is trying to 'kick a man when he's down' but in fact trying to give him a hand up. Employers want to see initiative and real interest at every level, particularly when the jobs market is so competitive. I assume Andrew, or anyone else interested in the post, would have a means of travelling to Whiteleys - so they could use that means of travel to apply in person - even if that means walking.

Re: Staff vacancies - Allison Harding (19th Mar 2012 - 15:43:23) I am disgusted at these recent posts, do you really think this is approriate for a public website? Andrew is a person not a piece of meat. If you have some good advice to offer him, ring him and do it in a spirit of human kindness. To critise and humiliate another human being like this is shameful. Editor - I think these personal posings about someone who is just trying to find a job should be taken down straightaway. They have no public interst and could be very damaging to the person concerned.

Re: Staff vacancies - may (19th Mar 2012 - 17:22:39) It is so lovely to know that the people of Liphook are so kind and understanding, I think a lot of them sit in their "ivory towers" and havent a clue about the real world, Im all right jack springs to mind.

Re: Staff vacancies - a (20th Mar 2012 - 02:36:19) i appear to have caused a storm in a teacup, i am sorry if my post caused offence to andrew, i infact admire is intuitive ways of advertising himself for a job and merely wanted to point out there were more ways he could seek employment. as for £60 a week, that is comfortable to live off if yo budget efficiently, a single person can eat for a week on less than a fiver, it wont be the most balanced or varied diet but its more than a good chunk of the earth can do, im talking about 11p packet nodles from tesco, toast sandwiches costing 7.5p i believe i read on bbc news not so long ago. im not advising this kind of diet, merely saying it is possible. i just think it would be nice for people to hunt rather than sit and wait for dinner to be bought to them

Re: Staff vacancies - may (20th Mar 2012 - 07:34:39) you are joking, who can live on a fiver lol, you seem to forget little things like electricity and gas and water etc, or should people on benefits go without these "luxurys" I would like to see anyone live on a fiver, that is the most ridiculous thing to say. I agree with Alison, the man is just trying to get a job, why all the negatives? people should think on "there but for the grace of God go I"

Re: Staff vacancies - Eneida (20th Mar 2012 - 09:54:04) Let's get the facts straight here... Andrew has posted, several times, on this forum asking for a job in catering cleaning...Mr Whiteley advertised such a job, that Andrew thought he was qualified to do, but replied on this forum...some posters advised him to contact Mr W. directly instead. All helpful information and nothing inappropriate about it at all !!!

Re: Staff vacancies - liz (20th Mar 2012 - 10:59:42) Allison and May I think you should get off your respective high horses for a moment. People ARE out in the real world and it is tough out there. There is nothing wrong with practical advice suggesting job applicants use their initiative. Those of us (probably most of us) who have been in the position of both job seeker and potential employer recognise the importance of this and want job applicants to be successful. There are no ivory towers involved.

Re: Staff vacancies - PETER WHITELEY (28th Mar 2012 - 23:23:09) Hi to all,what a lot to say?I admire anybody actively seeking employment.I have recently filled the Kitchen cleaning post,but i am stll looking for a Sunday waitress/waiter, plus some function cover.Please note you will need your own transport to get here and you must have catering experience in waiting at table in a pub/restaurant enviroment.This vacancy is for the over 21's only as i require you to have the experience.It is vital that all waiting staff at Whiteley's give a first class service to our customers and are able to follow my directions to the letter.Please e-mail me at whiteleysfamilyrestaurant@hotmail.co.uk only if you meet my criteria.Thankyou to all,I will keep all interested aplicants details on this thread incase i need further vacancies filled.Thankyou for your interest.

Re: Staff vacancies - h (29th Mar 2012 - 15:12:20) I think that the person who appears to be able to live off fresh air is not paying council tax rent mortgage etc and therefore being subsidised by the taxpayer anyway! It is possible to economise and become a vegetarian eating mostly pulses and vegetables, but unless one is a fan of raw food, still need to turn the cooker on and use electricity or gas! A person does not need to live on Sainsburysbasic range to save money they just need to learn some cooking skills!

Re: Staff vacancies - a (29th Mar 2012 - 21:50:01) I think you will find someone on full Job seekers allowance is also entitled to claim housing benefit and therefore would not pay rent mortgage or council tax. I will have you know that actually I am currently after I have paid my rent, i was living off of 27.50 a week, for bills food and travel, which i reduced to 20 a week whilst searching for a job, i then got a part time job and am living off of enough to see me through happily. this is all within the last 6 months, so welcome to the real world get off your high horse this is life, i said it was possible because i experienced it and have come out on top simples.

Re: Staff vacancies - lily (31st Mar 2012 - 08:23:07) I think we all know that one can claim housing/council tax benefit. I was refering to the £60 odd jsa. Yes, I agree one can exist on it, anyone who thinks they can eat your 5 a day from it obviously hasnt been shopping in a very long time. I was pointing out that once bills are paid, and basics range beans, eggs, and bread bought, there is no money left for travel, and phone credit. The law states that this £60 something is what one person needs to live on(without travel and phone, and tv licence)They are not necessity.The job center provides phones for thier customers to ring potential employers. The closest to Liphook, is Bordon and Petersfield. So if you need to call to enquire about a job, you must pay train or bus fare to get there. Doing this 3 times a week may leave someone hungry.( You must apply for up to 3 jobs a week, depending on your circumstances) If someone chooses to top up their phone instead of get the bus/train, this again could leave someone hungry. If the application was successful and the candidate is invited for an interview, the train/ bus will cost them again= hungry again. I dont need anyone to tell me about living on jsa, I have done it. No one expects a free easy ride, but jsa is not. It is a miserable, sad existence. Without 5 a day.

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