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Chicken farm - Lifetime resident (8th Oct 2025 - 20:15:21) Am I correct has the chicken farm got permission for houses. If that’s correct then more traffic through our square. Also have heard a rumour that the field opposite devils lane Haselmere road has permission for houses all these houses being built on that side of the square will put a huge strain on our infrastructure and devastate our conservation square what are EHDC thinking about they don’t seem to care about liphook. Are all these developers going to build new roads to reach the A3 around the square. Liphook was such a lovely place to live and now being devastated by traffic EHDC have a lot to answer for.

Re: Chicken farm - Joe (8th Oct 2025 - 23:18:23) Yes that is correct permission was given for 67 houses. There were various conditions imposed and it needs a full planning application re design of houses etc.

Re: Chicken farm - D (9th Oct 2025 - 07:54:17) Oooh-aaar! Elgin Sparrowhawk will be celebrating now. So much for farmers being custodians of the countryside. MY ARSE! Any EEC subsidies received over the past fifty years should be returned to the taxpayer. As the owner of this land said at the 2019 parish council planning meeting, "anything is for sale at the right price".

Re: Chicken farm - Roger Miller (9th Oct 2025 - 08:58:11) There isn't planning permission for building any houses on the land opposite Devils Lane. However there is a proposal in the EHDC Draft Local Plan to build houses on this land which is in the River Wey Conservation Area The River Wey Conservation Area was created by EHDC in 1983. Many people and organisations, including The River Wey Trust, have objected to this proposal. The Draft Local Plan will be out for further consultation next year. Let's hope that the site will be deleted from the Draft Local Plan!

Re: Chicken farm - Paul Robinson (9th Oct 2025 - 09:32:33) With regard to the land referred to as 'The Chicken Farm' it is worth pointing out this area was originally earmarked for housing but this was not completed as the developer, Berg Estates went bust before it could be completed. Paul Robinson

Re: Chicken farm - D (9th Oct 2025 - 12:12:50) At the risk of repeating myself Paul I do remember the builders telling me similar things to this in the seventies when the not so posh end of Berg estate was built. That's why there are two houses "missing" where the gate is. My only chagrin with all this is these British farmers pleading poverty taking all these subsidies for years then selling their land for a fortune and waving two fingers to the rest of us.

Re: Chicken farm - Lifetime resident (9th Oct 2025 - 12:35:15) Paul that was many years ago that site the chicken farm was refused permission several times because of its location EHDC said it was not viable because of its location for vehicular access. Things have moved on from the berg estate times the traffic situation in liphook has gone through the roof especially Midhurst Road and the square so this development should never have been approved at this time with no alternative to access the A3 around the square. EHDC have gone back on their original refusal with no changes to the plans . Total disgrace and not listening to our community as usual.

Re: Chicken farm - Joe (9th Oct 2025 - 13:49:31) It is out of the hands of EHDC as they were given higher and higher targets to find so at the time the chicken farm last applied EHDC had enough sites and did not need this one. It is probable that EHDC will disappear in a couple of years and planning done somewhere like Winchester for the whole of Hampshire.

Re: Chicken farm - Lifetime resident (9th Oct 2025 - 14:10:20) Joe there are sites on the A3 side of the square already on the planning, pennally farm next to the A3 , and of course bohunt manor perfectly placed so EHDC have done us no favours. It smells very fishy.

Re: Chicken farm - Trevor Maroney (9th Oct 2025 - 14:46:06) The Bramshott and Liphook community (we) have only ourselves to blame. The majority voted in a referendum for the Neighbourhood Development Plan (NDP) which did not contain any PLAN of where housing should be built. As I recall, we left it to the developers and EHDC to decide when, where and how new housing should be built. So why are some of you complaining now when clearly we are getting what the majority voted for? That is called democracy, isn't it?

Re: Chicken farm - Charlie (9th Oct 2025 - 14:54:41) Lifetime Resident Joe is right. EHDC do not have their Housing Land Supply and this means that if EHDC do not find sites on which to build houses, the Government will find them for us. 57% of East Hampshire is in the SDNP leaving the other 43% to carry the load. Do not blame EHDC - they are powerless to stop this and in a couple or so more year most District Councils including EHDC will not is exist - they will be replaced Unitary Authorities who will assuredly not listen to our local community. So if you want to blame someone or something blame the government and our ever increasing population.

Re: Chicken farm - Jo (9th Oct 2025 - 14:57:31) D - if landowners don't sell their land to developers, where do we build all the houses needed?

Re: Chicken farm - Charlie (9th Oct 2025 - 15:20:20) @Lifetime Resident and Trevor Maroney. As I said in my previous post the power has largely been removed from EHDC with regard to planning and is in the hands of this government. The Bohunt Manor Land is in the SDNP so is out of EHDC's hands, but I believe there are discussions taking place with regarding to some development there.

Re: Chicken farm - Joe (9th Oct 2025 - 15:39:04) As I have said many times before on here it is not a question of a choice between sites especially if the application is in a different planning authority. The chicken farm land was chosen by EHDC as a suitable site some years ago. Does not mean they do not now need other sites.

Re: Chicken farm - Mystified (9th Oct 2025 - 16:09:01) Charlie you say EHDC have to find sites. The last time I looked there were several the most obvious one being panally farm close to the A3 then bohunt manor yes it’s in the park but it can be developed as elsewhere. So question why give permission to a site that is not in a good position that does most damage to our town when there are sites more suitable and could provide more housing as said by others building on that side of the square is mindless. As said smells of fish .

Re: Chicken farm - Joe (9th Oct 2025 - 17:26:26) Penally Farm have started their planning application and it may take a while obviously before it is ready but these days with a high demand for houses it is not a question of choosing one development over the other! The fact that the Berg estate is adjoining has worked in its favour as a site. All new developments will increase the traffic in Liphook no matter where they are located. Yes the A3 is close to Penally Farm but the school traffic will still come from there and travel into Liphook.

Re: Chicken farm - Mystified (9th Oct 2025 - 17:43:01) Joe you mean young people won’t walk to school from penally farm your joking. As for bohunt well right next to the schools but perhaps the parents will drive them to the infants and junior schools from bohunt could happen. I don’t think that there would be so much traffic through the square from those sites against the chicken farm.

Re: Chicken farm - D (9th Oct 2025 - 18:22:09) Jo, I've nothing against Elgin Sparrowhawk selling his land, it's the sheer hypocracy of telling us what a great job they do in keeping us fed, then do this.

Re: Chicken farm - Joe (9th Oct 2025 - 22:18:33) Of course parents will these days not let a child especially those under 12 walk on their own to school ? These days both parents work, so for convenience the children are driven to school and then the parent drives on to work.

Re: Chicken farm - D (10th Oct 2025 - 16:06:46) I'd really love that bloke who does the proclamation style posts to do something on this.

Re: Chicken farm - Joe2 (10th Oct 2025 - 20:43:50) This is going to prove the opening of the sluice gates for development this side of the railway. The village has been sold down the river by SDNPA. Shame on them

Re: Chicken farm - steve miller (10th Oct 2025 - 20:47:13) Just out of interest, what do people posting on this thread think that Liphook will look like in 30 years? I have lived here with my family for rather longer than that and, in that time the village has grown significantly. Obviously the OSU site has probably made the biggest difference but the more recent development on what was once Lowsley Farm has been one of the larger developments. Many other smaller infill type schemes have also contributed to the rather larger community that we are now part of. In some ways it is perhaps the continued growth of Bohunt academy that has had the biggest impact, particularly on traffic levels. For what it's worth I find it difficult to believe that this growth won't continue and I would personally expect pretty well all of the various sites regularly debated in these forums to have been developed, at least to some extent over the next 30 years. With regards traffic levels and roads it is difficult to see funding ever being available for a comprehensive ring road to relieve the square.I could envisage a link road between Longmoor Road and Portsmouth Road, simply because that seems to be the easiest from a construction perspective and developer contributions from new building on the Bohunt Manor and Northcott estates could conceivably make such a link viable. Goodness knows what might happen to personal transport over that kind of timescale but I rather fear that congestion in the village centre will get rather worse rather than better although it should be born in mind that many other communities have to deal with considerably worse traffic than is th case here. It would be interesting to see how others see the future in that kind of timescale.

Re: Chicken farm - Joe (11th Oct 2025 - 03:04:34) Hampshire’s new road building policy seems to be modelled on “everyone should use a pushbike or walk” if you read it. They mostly allocate money for repairs. The problem with reliance on the developer’s funding for new road building on a new estate is that they tend to build the roads within estates to be private access only and the residents then pay a yearly fee for maintenance of the roads.

Re: Chicken farm - Astonished (11th Oct 2025 - 10:38:40) Joe not walk to school from penalty farm development you say . As an oldie children walked to Bramshott school from all over liphook at the age of 7 years . As for parents going to work well the children should walk themselves to school and parents go of to work simple. I’m astonished at the snowflake generation and the nimby parents these days. We started working at 15 so had 50 years of working life and more. This generation needs to get real.

Re: Chicken farm - Joe (11th Oct 2025 - 11:43:55) Oldie you only have to look at the amount of school drop offs to know that the majority of children younger especially do not walk to school in Liphook. Snowflakes? Maybe but it is the parents who choose to do it this way for convenience. I bet your mother oldie was not out at work in a full time paid position which needed a car to get her there and back.

Re: Chicken farm - D (11th Oct 2025 - 12:17:25) No, Joe. My mother was not in full time employment which needed a car to get to work. She was in full time employment within cycling distance of home. I also went to a school, within walking distance of home.

Re: Chicken farm - Astonished (11th Oct 2025 - 13:25:42) Joe yes I’m old as you so rightly say , mum had two jobs dad away very early so we walked to school and back . When I had children of my own they walked to school as my wife had two jobs. You miss read my post I said that children should walk themselves to school from panally farm development and the parents could go of to work in their cars mostly not through the square a it’s by the A3 that was my point. The chicken farm is the wrong side of the square so everything has to come through the square to access schools A3 etc not good planning. Hope you can understand that Joe .

Re: Chicken farm - Charlie (13th Oct 2025 - 16:32:11) Astonished, Joe and D The world in which we now live has changed radically and in many ways not for the better. We didn’t even have a car when I was growing up so walking, cycling, buses or trains were the answer. My mother walked me to a local nursery school I was 5. When I was seven the school I attended was not within walking distance so my mother would put me on a bus, a trolley bus no less, which took me to within a quarter of a mile of my school and usually there were other children attending the same school and other mothers who did live within walking distance, so I had company. When I was 11, I cycled to school. My mother worked but actually from home which was rare in those days, typing envelopes for an Advertising Agency. 1000 envelopes for a £1. The majority of parents who have young children work full-time whether for necessity and/or for a better standard of living; they just do not have the time to walk their young children to school hence they drop them off and then go to work. I now have grandchildren and when they were young I would not have wanted them to have walked to school on their own. Fine when they were older and they did. We have to accept the world as it is and in my opinion, it is in a much more dangerous place than it was when I was growing up. I am not saying that there were no predators then or “nasty” people around in the so-called “good old days” but with the increase of social media, the risks to children and young adults is frightening. There is a well known saying “adapt and survive” and I end this post by saying that I personally am very, very glad that I am not bringing up young children now. Getting back to the Chicken Farm Development I think the decision was wrong but EHDC are hogged-tied by this Government’s policy on housing.

Re: Chicken farm - Astonished (13th Oct 2025 - 18:25:47) Charlie agree totally with your post . Yes very young children should be taken to school there is the question how walk if possible and you hit the nail on the head the chicken farm is much to far away. The other sites this side of the square are much more likely to encourage parents to walk their children to school and the older ones can walk safely. EHDC could have made a much more of an effort to put housing in the right place and liaised with the SDNP to try and get them to see that bohunt manor and Northcott land could be such an asset to the community infrastructure wise. See the flood gates are beginning to open more plans going in up Midhurst Road behind Gunns farm the square will become gridlocked most of the day happy days.

Re: Chicken farm - Lydia (2nd Nov 2025 - 13:13:07) Cause and effect. Cause: open borders to the world. Effect: mass immigration of Africans et al. into the UK. There is no end to the building in Liphook on farmland with open borders. Simples!

Re: Chicken farm - PR (2nd Nov 2025 - 16:05:25) What kind of a posting is this ... are you on drugs or are you perhaps AI - has this social media site fallen to an all time low ???

Re: Chicken farm - D (2nd Nov 2025 - 19:14:23) I agree with Lydia, allowing illegal immigrants (NOT migrants, migrants come here correctly through the legal channels work hard and are valued members of society) allowing ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS to literally sail in and settle is doing nothing in reducing demand for housing. Let not bury our heads in the sand over the issue, Mr. Starmer. In the meantime, farmers who for decades took every eec subsidy they could lay their hands on are becoming overnight millionaires. Ooh-aar!

Re: Chicken farm - paul (2nd Nov 2025 - 21:26:41) Hi, I fell sorry for Chickens, and Turkeys next month. Maybe they can have a better future in generations ahead.

Re: Chicken farm - Joe (3rd Nov 2025 - 07:44:14) Farming land around Alton is being sold to allow the building of up to 20 thousand houses. Think yourselves lucky it is only 65 being built at the chicken Farm.

Re: Chicken farm - D (3rd Nov 2025 - 10:01:50) So long as it's not in the hallowed ivory towers of the south Downs National Park, eh, Joe?

Re: Chicken farm - Joe (3rd Nov 2025 - 11:04:06) Well D so far, although the Bohunt Manor application has been submitted to the SDNPA in full for inclusion in their local review, so far they have not rejected it out of hand in the same way they did before. Must be the inclusion of the Gypsy and Traveller site there which has done the trick. Be careful what you wish for.

Re: Chicken farm - Local (3rd Nov 2025 - 11:13:34) Quite so D can’t build on Bohunt Manor or Northcott land to benefit liphook and it’s not actually farmed and it’s not somewhere that the public can access so what’s the point of it . But it could make a huge difference for liphook if it’s handled correctly EHDC needs to make it their priority to get it right for liphook.

Re: Chicken farm - SandraB (4th Nov 2025 - 09:38:58) Lydia is right and it was all done on purpose. Even after all the gang rapes of English school girls up and down the country, they just opened the borders. Even Starmer said it: Keir Starmer on the "open borders experiment": “This happened by design, not accident. Policies were reformed deliberately to liberalise immigration. Brexit was used for that purpose: to turn Britain into a one-nation experiment in open borders.” It's the Great Replacement of the European peoples! www.gov.uk/government/speeches/pm-speech-on-migration-28-november-2024

Re: Chicken farm - AF (4th Nov 2025 - 10:09:57) There is a case where extra housing on a massive scale can be a good thing. If it's planned well and has a good mix of properties and includes extra facilities for the local area it can be a good thing. Most important is to get the developer contribution spent in Liphook not Hampshire and spent on things to help the community, the obvious things are link roads around liphook to avoid the square, and a decent concrete skate park.

Re: Chicken farm - Lorac Nostaw (6th Nov 2025 - 17:58:23) Joe, so when do we buy local produce grown by our own farmers? Answer; we don’t, we buy imported produce which is likely to be contaminated with all sorts of chemicals. Trump will be at the forefront selling to us and rubbing his greedy hands with glee.

Re: Chicken farm - joe (6th Nov 2025 - 20:33:45) Carol, or Lorac, just because farms are in Liphook does not make the farms organic or even mean farms have superior soil? We do have a salad and vegetable grower in the area but the produce is not in the supermarkets. I had a look around the chicken farm and the eggs are from battery indoor hens, and now there is planning permission granted doubt there are any chickens there. Most of our fruit and veg in the supermarkets is grown in polytunnels in Spain or Holland.

Re: Chicken farm - A different M (7th Nov 2025 - 08:56:25) Joe, just shows your lack of local knowledge. Chiltley Farm is a broiler site, not eggs. Chicks are produced to be grown into meat. Has been for decades.

Re: Chicken farm - D (7th Nov 2025 - 10:43:35) Correct, another M. They didn't sell eggs.

Re: Chicken farm - Joe (7th Nov 2025 - 13:17:27) Still battery chickens raised there not sure it is still operational?

Re: Chicken farm - Life time resident (7th Nov 2025 - 15:20:34) There seems to be a loss of understanding about this development. It doesn’t matter what the land is used for or was used for its Totally the wrong place to build houses that’s the point. Any development on that side of the square will impact on the centre of our village which is completely overwhelmed with traffic now. It’s totally ridiculous to build there when there are other options with far better locations for improvements to our infrastructure. EHDC don’t seem to want to put developments where they do the most good for liphook and our community.

Re: Chicken farm - D (7th Nov 2025 - 17:16:36) They packed up a few years ago, Joe, that is not the owner's only farming interest. I think we're going off track here a bit bringing battery hens into it. I think battery hens were outlawed over ten years ago (I could be wrong before the D bashers Google the issue). Deep litter is still allowed (which is exactly what it says) and the definition of free range is that a hen must have access to about a square foot of mud so long as it's outside. Forget the chocolate box image of a flock of hens wandering around the lush green grass of a farmyard, it don't exist (and probably never has).

Re: Chicken farm - Charlie (7th Nov 2025 - 17:25:17) Lifetime Resident While I totally understand your frustration, the fact of the matter is that EHDC can only consider sites put forward by the owners/developers. They are in talks with the SDNP about houses on the Bohunt Manor Land but as always the SDNP are not making it easy for them. On top of that there is enormous pressure from the Government to build more houses everywhere not just in East Hants and they, the Government state, that if an area does not have it's Housing Land Supply which East Hants has not, sites must be found and if the council cannot find sites, the Government will do it for them. A recent application in Waverley is a case in point. 111 houses in the AONB has been won on appeal because Waverley only have 1.28% of the it's Housing Land Supply. You can look up all the details. The situation is made worse in East Hants because a) 57% of it is in the SDNP and b)East Hants do not have a Local Development Plan which at the moment is in "works in progress" and not finished yet, because this Government keeps changing the goal posts. So while I agree the Chicken Farm is far from ideal for housing, EHDC had no choice. If they had refused it would have gone to Appeal and the Appeal would have been won because of the political bias of this Government. The Appeal would cost the taxpayers shedloads of money, as it did in Waverley recently.

Re: Chicken farm - Lifetime resident (7th Nov 2025 - 18:55:46) Charlie don’t you think everyone knows all that this goes back years. Very poor planning by EHDC not listening to the community who have told them time and again filling in mountains of surveys where to put developments. Bohunt and Northcott land was put forward with very good plans EHDC should have supported it and fought tooth and nail to get the national parks idiots to see sense the benefits for liphook. Pannally farm another ideal development no need for any developments on the chicken farm side of liphook.

Re: Chicken farm - Joe (7th Nov 2025 - 23:02:07) I have said this countless times on this forum that as previous posters have pointed out, it is never one site pitted against another? These days if EHDC do not have an up to date local plan and a 5 year land supply it is first come first built. I read online that in future AI will decide on planning applications not planning officers. For many years now it has not been about objection numbers either only housing numbers.

Re: Chicken farm - BallBoy (8th Nov 2025 - 10:34:59) Chickens at this property certainly did produce eggs for sale (at one time). I know that because I used to work there. Duties included collecting & sorting eggs (by size), and delivering trays of eggs to local businesses by van.

Re: Chicken farm - D (8th Nov 2025 - 12:02:05) I stand corrected, Ballboy. I was under the impression they brought in broilers.

Re: Chicken farm - charlie (10th Nov 2025 - 13:20:56) Lifetime Resident I don't think everyone agrees with you about Penally Farm. Quote from the Farnham Herald this year - July 2025: "Fury over plans for 200 homes in 'precious' countryside area Plans for 200 homes at Penally Farm stir anger as locals fear traffic chaos and loss of green space in Liphook."

Re: Chicken farm - Lifetime resident (10th Nov 2025 - 14:29:40) Same goes for everywhere that’s put forward for housing Charlie. It’s just that WHERE is the best place for housing in liphook at this time with the roads that we have and the huge increase in traffic through the square. Until there is a massive improvement with our infrastructure ie roads we have a big problem with traffic. And it still comes down to planning to try and make the best possible decisions for liphook.

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