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Chicken farm - Lifetime resident (8th Oct 2025  20:15:21) Am I correct has the chicken farm got permission for houses. If that’s correct then more traffic through our square. Also have heard a rumour that the field opposite devils lane Haselmere road has permission for houses all these houses being built on that side of the square will put a huge strain on our infrastructure and devastate our conservation square what are EHDC thinking about they don’t seem to care about liphook. Are all these developers going to build new roads to reach the A3 around the square. Liphook was such a lovely place to live and now being devastated by traffic EHDC have a lot to answer for.

Re: Chicken farm - Joe (8th Oct 2025  23:18:23) Yes that is correct permission was given for 67 houses. There were various conditions imposed and it needs a full planning application re design of houses etc.

Re: Chicken farm - D (9th Oct 2025  07:54:17) Oooh-aaar! Elgin Sparrowhawk will be celebrating now. So much for farmers being custodians of the countryside. MY ARSE! Any EEC subsidies received over the past fifty years should be returned to the taxpayer. As the owner of this land said at the 2019 parish council planning meeting, "anything is for sale at the right price".

Re: Chicken farm - Roger Miller (9th Oct 2025  08:58:11) There isn't planning permission for building any houses on the land opposite Devils Lane. However there is a proposal in the EHDC Draft Local Plan to build houses on this land which is in the River Wey Conservation Area The River Wey Conservation Area was created by EHDC in 1983. Many people and organisations, including The River Wey Trust, have objected to this proposal. The Draft Local Plan will be out for further consultation next year. Let's hope that the site will be deleted from the Draft Local Plan!

Re: Chicken farm - Paul Robinson (9th Oct 2025  09:32:33) With regard to the land referred to as 'The Chicken Farm' it is worth pointing out this area was originally earmarked for housing but this was not completed as the developer, Berg Estates went bust before it could be completed. Paul Robinson

Re: Chicken farm - D (9th Oct 2025  12:12:50) At the risk of repeating myself Paul I do remember the builders telling me similar things to this in the seventies when the not so posh end of Berg estate was built. That's why there are two houses "missing" where the gate is. My only chagrin with all this is these British farmers pleading poverty taking all these subsidies for years then selling their land for a fortune and waving two fingers to the rest of us.

Re: Chicken farm - Lifetime resident (9th Oct 2025  12:35:15) Paul that was many years ago that site the chicken farm was refused permission several times because of its location EHDC said it was not viable because of its location for vehicular access. Things have moved on from the berg estate times the traffic situation in liphook has gone through the roof especially Midhurst Road and the square so this development should never have been approved at this time with no alternative to access the A3 around the square. EHDC have gone back on their original refusal with no changes to the plans . Total disgrace and not listening to our community as usual.

Re: Chicken farm - Joe (9th Oct 2025  13:49:31) It is out of the hands of EHDC as they were given higher and higher targets to find so at the time the chicken farm last applied EHDC had enough sites and did not need this one. It is probable that EHDC will disappear in a couple of years and planning done somewhere like Winchester for the whole of Hampshire.

Re: Chicken farm - Lifetime resident (9th Oct 2025  14:10:20) Joe there are sites on the A3 side of the square already on the planning, pennally farm next to the A3 , and of course bohunt manor perfectly placed so EHDC have done us no favours. It smells very fishy.

Re: Chicken farm - Trevor Maroney (9th Oct 2025  14:46:06) The Bramshott and Liphook community (we) have only ourselves to blame. The majority voted in a referendum for the Neighbourhood Development Plan (NDP) which did not contain any PLAN of where housing should be built. As I recall, we left it to the developers and EHDC to decide when, where and how new housing should be built. So why are some of you complaining now when clearly we are getting what the majority voted for? That is called democracy, isn't it?

Re: Chicken farm - Charlie (9th Oct 2025  14:54:41) Lifetime Resident Joe is right. EHDC do not have their Housing Land Supply and this means that if EHDC do not find sites on which to build houses, the Government will find them for us. 57% of East Hampshire is in the SDNP leaving the other 43% to carry the load. Do not blame EHDC - they are powerless to stop this and in a couple or so more year most District Councils including EHDC will not is exist - they will be replaced Unitary Authorities who will assuredly not listen to our local community. So if you want to blame someone or something blame the government and our ever increasing population.

Re: Chicken farm - Jo (9th Oct 2025  14:57:31) D - if landowners don't sell their land to developers, where do we build all the houses needed?

Re: Chicken farm - Charlie (9th Oct 2025  15:20:20) @Lifetime Resident and Trevor Maroney. As I said in my previous post the power has largely been removed from EHDC with regard to planning and is in the hands of this government. The Bohunt Manor Land is in the SDNP so is out of EHDC's hands, but I believe there are discussions taking place with regarding to some development there.

Re: Chicken farm - Joe (9th Oct 2025  15:39:04) As I have said many times before on here it is not a question of a choice between sites especially if the application is in a different planning authority. The chicken farm land was chosen by EHDC as a suitable site some years ago. Does not mean they do not now need other sites.

Re: Chicken farm - Mystified (9th Oct 2025  16:09:01) Charlie you say EHDC have to find sites. The last time I looked there were several the most obvious one being panally farm close to the A3 then bohunt manor yes it’s in the park but it can be developed as elsewhere. So question why give permission to a site that is not in a good position that does most damage to our town when there are sites more suitable and could provide more housing as said by others building on that side of the square is mindless. As said smells of fish .

Re: Chicken farm - Joe (9th Oct 2025  17:26:26) Penally Farm have started their planning application and it may take a while obviously before it is ready but these days with a high demand for houses it is not a question of choosing one development over the other! The fact that the Berg estate is adjoining has worked in its favour as a site. All new developments will increase the traffic in Liphook no matter where they are located. Yes the A3 is close to Penally Farm but the school traffic will still come from there and travel into Liphook.

Re: Chicken farm - Mystified (9th Oct 2025  17:43:01) Joe you mean young people won’t walk to school from penally farm your joking. As for bohunt well right next to the schools but perhaps the parents will drive them to the infants and junior schools from bohunt could happen. I don’t think that there would be so much traffic through the square from those sites against the chicken farm.

Re: Chicken farm - D (9th Oct 2025  18:22:09) Jo, I've nothing against Elgin Sparrowhawk selling his land, it's the sheer hypocracy of telling us what a great job they do in keeping us fed, then do this.

Re: Chicken farm - Joe (9th Oct 2025  22:18:33) Of course parents will these days not let a child especially those under 12 walk on their own to school ? These days both parents work, so for convenience the children are driven to school and then the parent drives on to work.

Re: Chicken farm - D (10th Oct 2025  16:06:46) I'd really love that bloke who does the proclamation style posts to do something on this.

Re: Chicken farm - Joe2 (10th Oct 2025  20:43:50) This is going to prove the opening of the sluice gates for development this side of the railway. The village has been sold down the river by SDNPA. Shame on them

Re: Chicken farm - steve miller (10th Oct 2025  20:47:13) Just out of interest, what do people posting on this thread think that Liphook will look like in 30 years? I have lived here with my family for rather longer than that and, in that time the village has grown significantly. Obviously the OSU site has probably made the biggest difference but the more recent development on what was once Lowsley Farm has been one of the larger developments. Many other smaller infill type schemes have also contributed to the rather larger community that we are now part of. In some ways it is perhaps the continued growth of Bohunt academy that has had the biggest impact, particularly on traffic levels. For what it's worth I find it difficult to believe that this growth won't continue and I would personally expect pretty well all of the various sites regularly debated in these forums to have been developed, at least to some extent over the next 30 years. With regards traffic levels and roads it is difficult to see funding ever being available for a comprehensive ring road to relieve the square.I could envisage a link road between Longmoor Road and Portsmouth Road, simply because that seems to be the easiest from a construction perspective and developer contributions from new building on the Bohunt Manor and Northcott estates could conceivably make such a link viable. Goodness knows what might happen to personal transport over that kind of timescale but I rather fear that congestion in the village centre will get rather worse rather than better although it should be born in mind that many other communities have to deal with considerably worse traffic than is th case here. It would be interesting to see how others see the future in that kind of timescale.

Re: Chicken farm - Joe (11th Oct 2025  03:04:34) Hampshire’s new road building policy seems to be modelled on “everyone should use a pushbike or walk” if you read it. They mostly allocate money for repairs. The problem with reliance on the developer’s funding for new road building on a new estate is that they tend to build the roads within estates to be private access only and the residents then pay a yearly fee for maintenance of the roads.

Re: Chicken farm - Astonished (11th Oct 2025  10:38:40) Joe not walk to school from penalty farm development you say . As an oldie children walked to Bramshott school from all over liphook at the age of 7 years . As for parents going to work well the children should walk themselves to school and parents go of to work simple. I’m astonished at the snowflake generation and the nimby parents these days. We started working at 15 so had 50 years of working life and more. This generation needs to get real.

Re: Chicken farm - Joe (11th Oct 2025  11:43:55) Oldie you only have to look at the amount of school drop offs to know that the majority of children younger especially do not walk to school in Liphook. Snowflakes? Maybe but it is the parents who choose to do it this way for convenience. I bet your mother oldie was not out at work in a full time paid position which needed a car to get her there and back.

Re: Chicken farm - D (11th Oct 2025  12:17:25) No, Joe. My mother was not in full time employment which needed a car to get to work. She was in full time employment within cycling distance of home. I also went to a school, within walking distance of home.

Re: Chicken farm - Astonished (11th Oct 2025  13:25:42) Joe yes I’m old as you so rightly say , mum had two jobs dad away very early so we walked to school and back . When I had children of my own they walked to school as my wife had two jobs. You miss read my post I said that children should walk themselves to school from panally farm development and the parents could go of to work in their cars mostly not through the square a it’s by the A3 that was my point. The chicken farm is the wrong side of the square so everything has to come through the square to access schools A3 etc not good planning. Hope you can understand that Joe .

Re: Chicken farm - Charlie (13th Oct 2025  16:32:11) Astonished, Joe and D The world in which we now live has changed radically and in many ways not for the better. We didn’t even have a car when I was growing up so walking, cycling, buses or trains were the answer. My mother walked me to a local nursery school I was 5. When I was seven the school I attended was not within walking distance so my mother would put me on a bus, a trolley bus no less, which took me to within a quarter of a mile of my school and usually there were other children attending the same school and other mothers who did live within walking distance, so I had company. When I was 11, I cycled to school. My mother worked but actually from home which was rare in those days, typing envelopes for an Advertising Agency. 1000 envelopes for a ÂŁ1. The majority of parents who have young children work full-time whether for necessity and/or for a better standard of living; they just do not have the time to walk their young children to school hence they drop them off and then go to work. I now have grandchildren and when they were young I would not have wanted them to have walked to school on their own. Fine when they were older and they did. We have to accept the world as it is and in my opinion, it is in a much more dangerous place than it was when I was growing up. I am not saying that there were no predators then or “nasty” people around in the so-called “good old days” but with the increase of social media, the risks to children and young adults is frightening. There is a well known saying “adapt and survive” and I end this post by saying that I personally am very, very glad that I am not bringing up young children now. Getting back to the Chicken Farm Development I think the decision was wrong but EHDC are hogged-tied by this Government’s policy on housing.

Re: Chicken farm - Astonished (13th Oct 2025  18:25:47) Charlie agree totally with your post . Yes very young children should be taken to school there is the question how walk if possible and you hit the nail on the head the chicken farm is much to far away. The other sites this side of the square are much more likely to encourage parents to walk their children to school and the older ones can walk safely. EHDC could have made a much more of an effort to put housing in the right place and liaised with the SDNP to try and get them to see that bohunt manor and Northcott land could be such an asset to the community infrastructure wise. See the flood gates are beginning to open more plans going in up Midhurst Road behind Gunns farm the square will become gridlocked most of the day happy days.

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