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Roundabout vandalism - Caroline (26th Aug 2025  08:31:01) As a white British citizen I was angry, disgusted and disappointed to see someone has taken time to actually paint a St. Georgeā€™s Cross on Liphook roundabout. Itā€™s vandalism. Simple as. Itā€™s not pride in our country. Itā€™s racism. Itā€™s reminiscent of the BNP. If you support this and have ever moaned about the council not collecting your rubbish, or about the verges which need cutting, or about the state of the roads but you are quite happy to spend council money on displaying flags or repainting roundabouts then you need your head read. Have reported this graffiti this morning. I shall also be removing any St. Georgeā€™s flags I see displayed in public places around the village. For the non white residents of Liphook, please be assured that the views of some people on here do not represent us all. Pathetic.

Re: Roundabout vandalism - Pete (26th Aug 2025  09:13:53) Well said Caroline.

Re: Roundabout vandalism - British resident (26th Aug 2025  09:37:58) So if people put up flags on private property are you not becoming a vandal yourself if you take then down?

Re: Roundabout vandalism - Caroline (26th Aug 2025  10:00:00) Hence why I said 'public property' @British Resident.

Re: Roundabout vandalism - Observer (26th Aug 2025  10:25:53) Ah, the inevitable screaming outrage of the liberal ..... always the most intolerant of people.

Re: Roundabout vandalism - Br (26th Aug 2025  10:26:14) That would be theft then?

Re: Roundabout vandalism - Clare (26th Aug 2025  10:29:42) Caroline said public property not private property. ā€Ø I think the people who did this to our local area need to have a bit of reality check. Painting crosses doesnā€™t make you patriotic and if you really have got a bee in your bonnet, please go and paint this kind of stuff on your own house because it means extra money (taxpayers' money) now has to be spent by the council to remove your graffiti instead of being used for something more worthwhile like local hospitals. If you really want to make a positive contribution to your local community, please consider volunteering for a charity or assisting your neighbours to foster new and supportive friendship groups. ā€Øā€Ø I think itā€™s great to love your country but England isnā€™t better than any other place in the world. Every country has its positives and negatives but arenā€™t all of us lucky that we live in a peaceful country and are not enduring what the poor people in Gaza and Ukraine are having to go through right now.

Re: Roundabout vandalism - Susie (26th Aug 2025  10:51:12) Caroline Bit of an overreaction. This is England, rural with a National Park on our doorstep and many National Trust areas along with an English speaking community, have you noticed any of these... Come to England adopt the rules of our country, but only come legally. No its not racist are you bonkers. UK left the EU to close our borders amongst others and we are entitled to enjoy England especially when we're tax payers and not scrounging around illegally.

Re: Roundabout vandalism - Caroline (26th Aug 2025  11:27:54) Have said all I came to say. Enjoy your day.

Re: Roundabout vandalism - Dennis (26th Aug 2025  11:30:39) Talking about White and Non White, I think you may be the racist one. The colour of someones skin has nothing to do with the current movement to display the flags.

Re: Roundabout vandalism - Clare (26th Aug 2025  11:34:04) It's vandalism so it doesn't matter if it's of the St George Cross, a laughing emoji or a love heart. It costs money, taxpayers' money, to remove it and it makes the village look untidy. Wanting to have graffiti removed has nothing to do with being a liberal or Brexit.

Re: Roundabout vandalism - Abosh (26th Aug 2025  11:56:11) Ah of course, the white middle class liberal woman speaking on the wonders of diversity while choosing to live in a 99% white village and having absolutely no experience what it is like living in a diverse neighbourhood.

Re: Roundabout vandalism - Charlie (26th Aug 2025  12:07:41) Caroline You OP is the sort of post that promotes the reaction that we are seeing on this site from some of the other posters. Susieā€™s post was spot on and like her I support immigration providing it is legal, controlled and sustainable which, at the moment, it is not. Billions of pounds of taxpayerā€™s money is being spent of housing immigrants entering this country illegally on the premise that they are asylum seekers. The vast majority are not ā€“ they are economic migrants. Look at the number of young men on the boats ā€“ they are not asylum seekers. When you are attacking your fellow citizens who want to preserve our identity take a moment to remember the grooming gangs who had nothing but contempt for white British girls hardly more than children. Under our present law immigrants entering illegally have to be processed before they can be deported and this takes time and money. We should certainly leave the ECHR and our laws should state that anyone entering this country illegally should be deported immediately. There are plenty of legal routes. I personally have no problem with the St George Flag even if St George was Turkish. We put up with many other flags in this country and British people are very tolerant about this. Tolerance however only goes so far and when you see towns and villages completely losing their ancestral identity you can understand some peopleā€™s reactions. I do not condone violence of any sort but when people feel fear or under threat they react accordingly. It doesnā€™t make that right, but it is understandable. I sometimes feel that the British people have to apologise for being British particularly if they are white British. The pendulum has swung too far the other way. Remember ā€œBlack Lives Matterā€. All I would say to you is that is ā€œAll Lives Matter.ā€

Re: Roundabout vandalism - Observer (26th Aug 2025  12:27:20) I really want to address this point: "For the non white residents of Liphook, please be assured that the views of some people on here do not represent us all." Firstly, I'm a legal immigrant to the UK as I moved here 30 years ago. I love the UK, I love Liphook, I've built a company here and I pay all my taxes (probably too many!). Secondly, I fit into the category Caroline is addressing. And Caroline I disagree - I WANT assurance that Liphook is represented by pride in the British flag, and patriotism. Be proud of this beautiful country, its traditions, its flag and its people.

Re: Roundabout vandalism - Local (26th Aug 2025  12:34:58) Itā€™s pretty disrespectful to the flag and the country to have people driving over it all the timeā€¦

Re: Roundabout vandalism - A Different View (26th Aug 2025  12:42:01) I thought The Square was a conservation area. Regardless of political stance the Roundabout and Ponnammas has done nothing positive for Liphook

Re: Roundabout vandalism - passfield resident (26th Aug 2025  13:39:48) A Different View- Ponnamma's does a lovely fish curry-that's positive enough for me.

Re: Roundabout vandalism - A Different View (26th Aug 2025  14:13:12) Passfield Resident, I was only referring to the signage... Thanks for the info on the curry - I will give it a try ...

Re: Roundabout vandalism - D (26th Aug 2025  15:25:18) Caroline, calm down dear, it's only a mini roundabout. Makes a change about how people drive round them I suppose.

Re: Roundabout vandalism - Pete (26th Aug 2025  16:53:50) If this was about patriotism where have all the flags and painted crosses been, why are they only appearing now. Two reasons firstly because people have an overwhelming need to be a part of something and jump on any bandwagon. Secondly to intimidate people they believe should not be here.

Re: Roundabout vandalism - Local (26th Aug 2025  16:59:03) Great to see the flag flying on the millennium flower bed . Think thereā€™s one on the pole at the millennium hall but couldnā€™t see it because of the overgrown trees. Perhaps if they put crosses on all the roundabouts drivers would drive around them. Other countries fly their flags all over the place so WHY shouldnā€™t we . Just try telling the French they can't fly their flags all flags there would be a riot. This country needs to stand up for its self stop being so nimby about our history and the way we run OUR country. Anyone coming here should abide by our laws and traditions.

Re: Roundabout vandalism - Sally (26th Aug 2025  17:24:49) Well done to whoever painted the flag on the roundabout. I didn't see Caroline get that worked up over the mass rape of English schoolgirls up and down the country. But paint a flag on the road and look how she reacts! Amazing to see.

Re: Roundabout vandalism - Grape (26th Aug 2025  19:41:13) @- Pete (26th Aug 2025 - 16:53:50), you ask why now: Regardless of historic "facts" and interpretations, St George is now OUR English flag. We should be no less proud to fly it as the Welsh, Scottish, Ukrainian and Palestinians do with theirs. The ruling class is increasingly anti-patriotic, whilst making big fuss about sovereignty of Ukraine and Palestine or whoever else is the flavour of the month. Borders and nationality are all very good for others but are being abandoned or denied when it comes to us. We should fly the flags to signal we are still more patriotic than the ruling class are, and more than they'd like us to be. We need to fly the flags for future generations to observe and learn patriotism. We need to fly the flags that unify us locally (UK, England, Hampshire. Liphook). We must not fly the flags that divide us and are concerned with non-local issues, such as identity politics (e.g. the Alphabet people flags) or foreign conflicts. We should use our flag to flag out what is wrong, should be dealt with by the authorities but is not (e.g. potholes).

Re: Roundabout vandalism - Scott (26th Aug 2025  19:56:38) Personally, I am a patriot, I really enjoy living in Liphook. I love being an Englishman and being part of the United Kingdom. For all of its mixed cultural identity and history dating back hundreds/thousands of years. But someone coming out probably in the middle of the night to paint a tatty, unstraight red cross on a white circle in the middle of town is a low level attempt to stir up grievances and ill feeling. There are much better ways of getting a point across if you have the time or inclination. Still, its there, but not in my name or with my backing. It looks rubbish, šŸ¤žfingers crossed its gone soon. Now the roundabout is defaced do we no longer have to give way to the rightšŸ¤”šŸ¤£

Re: Roundabout vandalism - WUND (26th Aug 2025  21:08:09) šŸšØ GLORIOUS CIVIC DECREE 849-B: DESIGNATION OF THE ST. GEORGE ROUNDABOUT šŸšØ By Irrevocable Proclamation of the Supreme Directorate of National Virtue and the Ceremonial Paintbrush of Patriotic Ornamentation, the Liphook Mini-Roundabout is henceforth and forevermore to be known as: šŸŽ– THE ST. GEORGE ROUNDABOUT šŸŽ– This sanctified infrastructure shall stand, not merely as a traffic control feature, but as an unassailable emblem of mythic heritage, rotational obedience, and automotive piety! šŸ”ŗ Objections shall be ceremoniously disregarded. šŸ”ŗ Alternative opinions shall be archived in the Repository of Unwanted Dissent. šŸ”ŗ All future acts of unlicensed circular artistry must first be approved by the Ministry of Symbolic Geometry. May every vehicle yield with reverence. May every tire kiss the sacred cross with rotational fidelity. And may all who question this divine naming face the full enlightenment of prolonged bureaucratic review! All hail the St George Roundabout! By Command of the Roundabout Renaming Tribunal, For the Eternal Algorithm and the Glory of The State šŸš—āš”ļøšŸ‡¬šŸ‡Ŗ Questioning the The St George Roundabout's new identity is punishable by compulsory semaphore lessons.

Re: Roundabout vandalism - D (26th Aug 2025  22:54:42) Maybe it's a Banksy?

Re: Roundabout vandalism - Lisa (27th Aug 2025  01:07:00) Thank you, Caroline. I wholeheartedly agree with you and appreciate your comments.

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Re: Roundabout vandalism - Curious (27th Aug 2025  08:29:46) In her original post, Caroline stated ā€˜It is racismā€™. How on earth can 2 strips of paint be racist Caroline?! Racism is about discrimination or hostility toward people because of their race. I should know, Iā€™m been on the receiving end of racism in my life. Paint isnā€™t racist. But as ever, its liberals with their dog-whistle statements blurring lines and stirring hysteria.

Re: Roundabout vandalism - Grape (27th Aug 2025  13:45:14) To all the proud patriots, national flag fliers making their voices heard to the dismay of the ruling class: We are proud of you. We support you morally. Carry on the good work. We are at your debt. I'd be delighted to help if you need more flags. At long last something is beginning to stir in sleepy England. We've been oppressed for way too long.

Re: Roundabout vandalism - Curious (27th Aug 2025  14:35:10) Is this now Terrorism? Definition of terrorism in UK vis a vis protesting. Interestingly, in legal terms, Palestine Action have recently been declared a terrorist group by the British government, under pressure to crack down on their more contentious actions ie spraying airplanes and damaging Israeli weapons manufacturers equipment etc) albeit in a seemingly well intentioned protest against what they perceive to be genocide. They achieved this by apparently deciding (on legal advice from the Attorney General I would guess) that criminal damage in pursuance of a political aim will now must be considered terrorism, where it used to be dealt with reasonably under criminal damage and or injunctions or other protest/demonstration type legislation. Hundreds of mainly retired professional old British people have been arrested, dragged into police vans and charged as terrorist under laws intended for the likes of the IRA and ISIS. Now we cannot possibly support this group, even if anyone once did and I'm no expert on whether the proscription was just or not (an appeal is pending but in the meantime they are proscribed, tbh I'd never even heard of them till they were proscribed and I doubt they had many members!). But here's the rub. As I read it. The ban was because the Home Secretary was advised that terrorism includes not just violence carried out in the cause of a political aim, but thanks to recent legislation also includes criminal damage carried out in pursuance if political aims. On that basis you could see how they fall under that umbrella. However, here's my point, by the same standards (since when have we judged everybody equally you may ask!) anyone protesting against refugees or government policy who then defaces, damages, graffitis or gets involved in scuffles, fights or injury is also a terrorist...no? If same standards are applied equally without fear or favour? Graffitying anything public, ie a roundabout, apart from defacing road traffic safety apparatus, possibly distracting drivers and endangering lives, is technically a crime, criminal damage, in itself, so, by the governments own new standard, if done in pursuance of a political aim could be classed as terrorism too, no? It's a very slippery slope the government has cornered itself into, what we would have once called legitimate protest in a free society now very easily can be written up as terrorism with all the chilling life consequences that has for those whose democratic rights to protest their views must be highly protected, something millions of our soldiers died to protect. By that new logic, perhaps anyone painting flags etc should now think very carefully or are they better protected?

Re: Roundabout vandalism - Local (27th Aug 2025  14:40:30) As I said itā€™s time this government woke up and listened to the majority of the good people of this country. We left the EU to stand on OUR own feet come what may so we need to implement our laws not side step to appease the few . Yes something is stirring the people have had enough of being told that they are wrong and stop whining. The majority took us out of the EU we should abide by that and get on running our country how we want the majority wants . Stop all this listening to the few that make the most noise.

Re: Roundabout vandalism - sam (27th Aug 2025  17:29:24) If you left the EU to stop immigration then you failed massively, you just stopped european legal migration, i.e educated people, doctors etc down to staff needed elsewhere, they left. Leaving the EU has actually increased illegal migration from countries outside the EU, the sort you might question what value they offer, despite many of them actually doing so, EU dont have to co-operate as much now they can focus on their own issues and continue to work with other EU partners etc, of which we are no longer. Fly your flags off course, but painting them onto any property other than your own is vandalism, and in doing so, even if you paint every rooftop in liphook, it achieves nothing at all, much like Brexit it wont fix the problems you have defined as problems. No one that you dont want is either seeing your vandalism directly or stodd in Calais thinking "hmm I better not go to Liphook" What they are actually thinking is "I speak English because England invaded us, or influenced our country, or indeed ruined it" so best place for me is England..... you call it the "empire" I call it a huge mistake for which you are now in your own mind suffering because off. If you had stayed out of other peoples business over history they might well have stayed out off yours

Re: Roundabout vandalism - danny (27th Aug 2025  18:03:03) It brilliant! Hats off to whoever painted it. Its a celebration of our national identity and shows that we're not willing to be shat on by our own government. If you don't believe thats whats happening then you've got a lot of catching up to do.

Re: Roundabout vandalism - Grape (27th Aug 2025  18:26:25) @ - Curious (27th Aug 2025 - 14:35:10): Granted: The legislation proscribing the pro-pally nutters was out of desperation, a difficult piece of legislation. But what can we expect from our leader lawyers? Legislation excreted by Baron Hermer et al recently has been disastrous to Britain. Hermer et al are as good as any enemey of the nation. In your post you've painted the entire patriotic Right wing in one broad brush. Those on the far Right who plan and execute harm to State and Security facilities, anti-patriotic, perhaps should be treated as terrorists. Those immediately politically close to them should also carry some responsibility. But the rest, vast patriotic Right wing should NOT be held responsible. The useful idiots clearly supporting the specific terrorist movement of Action for Palestine have a simple choice: Show your objection, rejection, wash your hands of, condemn the anti-State acts of terrorism of that specific movement - or take responsibility for supporting them. The idiots chose to stick with the terrorists. We yet again experience the two-tier justice, where defacing with patriotic symbols carry much more risk that defacing with anti-patriotic symbols. The ruling class counts on the patriotic majority not to rise up. Now the patriotic majority is beginning to rise up The ruling class is now in the spotlight like never before. Anti-patriotic bias and two-tear justice are becoming ever clearer for all to see. It's getting more interesting by the day. The ruling class's project of top-down top-heavy control is beginning to teeter and destabilize when faced with reality. .

Re: Roundabout vandalism - Charlie (28th Aug 2025  12:57:57) Curious. Into what category would you put the Israeli Government, IDF and the hard right Israeli lunatics who are killing, maiming and starving Palestinians indiscriminately to eliminate Hamas and rule Gaza displacing thousands? Hamas is classed as a terrorist organisation and I make no excuse for them and what they did was terrible but they exist because of the way Israel has behaved for years with regard to the settlers in Gaza, treating them as second class citizens, stealing their homeland by brutal force and one Israeli Minister actually referred to Palestinians as "human animals." They attack, maim and kill and recently by their own admission, without proper information ie the two brutal attacks on the hospital recently. Israel has all but destroyed Gaza and killed thousands of innocent Palestinians including women and children. Essentially, terrorism involves the use of violence to achieve political aims, often by targeting non-combatants to create fear and instability. I have a friend who is Jewish and she said to me recently that "I am ashamed to be Jewish". Europe and America do nothing to stop this genocide - they just talk, although in America's case Trump doesn't even talk very much - just sound bites. Can you blame the Palestinians for protesting in this country and while I do not condone violence or vandalism, these people as desperate.

Re: Roundabout vandalism - Grape (28th Aug 2025  13:47:31) @ - Charlie (28th Aug 2025 - 12:57:57) Charlie, This thread is about patriotic symbol on a Liphook roundabout. You'd do us all a favour if you wind back your misinformed, one-sided anti-Israeli (neo-Nazi) nonsense. A brief token acknowledgment of barbaric Palestinian actions that triggered and perpetuating the awful war, in passing, will not qualify your view as balanced. Back to the Liphook roundabout.

Re: Roundabout vandalism - passfield resident (28th Aug 2025  13:54:46) Charlie-very well put. I was going to post something similar myself.

Re: Roundabout vandalism - er (28th Aug 2025  14:23:25) Grape, a bit rude, I wonder, are the UN, the ICC, most NGOs, most nations (except The US), most ordinary people etc all Nazis? You can certainly support Israel without having to close your eyes or be silent, Israel prides (or did) itself on its freedom of speech and democracy! And I came across this today, a vigil in the rain in Australia, a heck of a lot of Nazis eh??? facebook.com/share/v/1BsQoX71hT

Re: Roundabout vandalism - pete (28th Aug 2025  16:56:06) Well said Charlie...

Re: Roundabout vandalism - pete (28th Aug 2025  17:01:51) Ouch.. i meant well said grape .. not the brainwashed Charlie !

Re: Roundabout vandalism - Paul (28th Aug 2025  21:13:19) paint soon wear off as drivers donā€™t go around like you should but go over it

Re: Roundabout vandalism - Grape (28th Aug 2025  22:24:36) @ - er (28th Aug 2025 - 14:23:25) ER, Those who think themselves infallible, moralistic, virtuous, calling for Israel to capitulate to a culture of murderous, genocidal jihadists (Palestinian leadership) are calling for Israel, and its Jewish majority to become extinct. That's a Nazi dream. International and internationalist bodies, as listed by you, are making that very call, so fall into that definition by default, yes. They are not proper Nazis, they are 21st century neo-Nazis, "kind Nazis" carry on the same vision. Leading to the same fait annihilation of the Jews. War is ugly (Any war in Gaza would be even uglier than in a place like Ukraine by technical necessity). This war was caused, called for by Palestinians and supporters (see your list of bodies). Freedom of speech in Israel is alive and well (more than could be said to this country, or Palestine). Your video looks dodgy (AI). But no doubt there will never be any shortage of useful idiots all to happy to litter the streets. People like you who are anti-Semite racist in a very thin veil of virtue signalling need educating. Educating as in de-poisoned by easily available disinformation by biased media and ruling class. See Big Brother postings on Talkback.

Re: Roundabout vandalism - Charlie (29th Aug 2025  14:08:46) Thank you, Passfield Resident. My mother was a Jew which makes me half Jewish although she married a Christian. I have many Jewish friends and family and they are appalled by what Israel is doing as are many, many other people, both Jewish and non-Jewish. I worked for a Jewish Insurance Brokers years ago and the owner was a close friend of my Jewish Grandfather. The owner and his firm were the most inclusive people I have ever met, employing people from many other countries and religions long before it was "the correct thing do do" PC and all that. His staff, the majority of whom were Jewish were a delight to work with. I cannot believe that those same people would now condone Israel's actions in company with many, many Jews across the world who also are appalled at the indiscriminate bombing. Just because I am against the actions of Israel does not mean I am antisemitic - quite the reverse. All I would say to the rather rude, very unintelligent and ill-formed post by Grape is, yes of course there are faults on both sides, the Middle East is made up of Factions and is extremely volatile. What Hamas did was brutal and terrible but what the hard right in Israel is doing is far, far worse - it is genocide. The hard right in Israel have treated the Palestinians disgracefully for years and regard them a second-class citizens. They have consistently stolen their lands and homes at gunpoint for over 30 years. Indiscrimate bombing and starving of innocent people is genocide and a War Crime and is completely unacceptable however justified that you feel you feel your cause is. I am sure there are Israeli's who feel the same - there is no excuse for the taking of thousands of innocent lives and there is a good reason why the BBC journalists are not allowed into Gaza.

Re: Roundabout vandalism - passfield resident (29th Aug 2025  14:33:50) Charlie-again, well said.

Re: Roundabout vandalism - Peter Rowan (29th Aug 2025  14:45:46) Charlie Thank you for your very well written post

Re: Roundabout vandalism - Jen (29th Aug 2025  15:24:37) Thank you, Charlie, for your eloquent and intelligent post. I very much hope that your views are representative of the silent majority of us here in Liphook - and indeed in the UK as a whole.

Re: Roundabout vandalism - passfield resident (29th Aug 2025  17:13:40) I agree with you Jen.I hope the decent, tolerant majority don't get shouted down by an intolerant minority.

Re: Roundabout vandalism - Grape (29th Aug 2025  18:17:16) @ - Charlie (29th Aug 2025 - 14:08:46) 1) You say you're not an anti-Semite (racist), yet you keep a tally of Jews amongst your acquaintances. Virtue signalling boasting. That's like anyone saying "I'm not a racist, look at me, I even know a black person at work". Shows you view people on racial terms, that's racist, hypocritical. Tarring the selected few Jews you know in the same broad brush as rest of the world's Jews and the Israeli nation (diverse, not just Jew society) expect them all to be one monolithic block is racist. 2) Even now during that ugly war, the Israeli army is the most discriminate and precise army there is. No other army would have managed a lower ratio of combatant to non-combatant targeting under the circumstances. Educate yourself and followers. 3) If you have an issue with Settlers and Far Right, then let the Palestinians target them, discriminately, without targeting and murdering civilians. All Palestinian aggression (which has never ever stopped, only gone unreported) has been to maximise harm, never discriminate. Educate yourself and followers. 4) Palestinians are not citizens of Israel, so can't be treated as first-class citizens (I know, ironic how illegal immigrants here are treated better than citizen). Did you perhaps mean Israeli Arabs (Muslim and other religions) in your ignorance? Well they enjoy equality and liberty like in no other middle eastern country, an Arab judge it trialling the prime minister, key positions, nearly 10% of parliament. Educate yourself and followers. 5) Even the anti-Israeli courts (e.g. Hague) and other biased international bodies (e.g. UN) have failed to actually find genocide. The il-based emotional accusations of famine and genocide are peddled by biased media (e.g. BBC who consistently are being brought to apologise for bad journalism), affecting excitable minds of students and the ill-informed well-meaning pro-pally grey-haired pensioners. There are indeed VERY good reason not to cooperate with the BBC and the like. 6) Crying out Israel's action as "not legal" is meaningless, Israel is protecting itself against illegal entities acting wholly outside the law. The Israeli leadership is bold enough to take on the approach of: Rather being internationally condemned than being condoled. I wish our leaders here would come close to this patriotic bravery. More about the international community and the legality of the Israeli actions: The more Israel is being abandoned and being made a pariah state, the less of value will be international pressure on Israel. Back to British patriotism: So we're ok fussing about legal/illegal when it comes to Israel, but we are to turn a blind eye to illegal immigrants here... Our leaders made a big point recognising unknown borders of Palestine, whilst abandoning the British border.

Re: Roundabout vandalism - Abosh (29th Aug 2025  21:25:25) Why is everyone ranting about israel/Palestine? It's honestly the favourite topic of the middle classes, the left wing thick middle class liberal will scream about the plight Palestinians while having never been exposed to the uncivilised people of Palestine and the thick posh tories will rant in support of israel without realising many Israelis have massive contempt for the west and use it as a cash cow. I swear you people use these topics as a distraction instead of dealing with the absolute hell that is fast becoming the uk.

Re: Roundabout vandalism - Scott (29th Aug 2025  22:27:07) The only distraction going on here is that this topic was about a tiny roundabout in Liphook.....

Re: Roundabout vandalism - Charlie (1st Sep 2025  10:43:25) Grape: peel back your skin and see the reality of what is happening in Gaza. As most of your post is ill-informed rubbish I will just ask you one question. Why won't Israel allow the BBC journalists into Gaza and please don't come back on this site with the usual rubbish that the BBC is biased? Maybe in some cases but not this. I have the greatest respect for the integrity our journalists in the Middle East who risk their lives on daily basis eg Jeremy Bowen and Lucy Williamson to name but two.

Re: Roundabout vandalism - :// (4th Sep 2025  22:49:00) thanks for saying this! back from uni and felt sick seeing this nonsense here. makes you think everyone is evilā€¦

Re: Roundabout vandalism - Resident (5th Sep 2025  09:33:00) Intriguing comment from the person formerly know as :// 'Back home' from university the first week of September? When every UK university is starting and students leaving home??? I guess you are not attending the University of Common Sense, Department of Factual Accuracy!

Re: Roundabout vandalism - B (6th Sep 2025  16:46:15) Vandalising property with red crosses and hanging Chinese made flags on any available surface. Is. By. Far. The most Tax Credit thing I've seen

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