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Illegal Drug Use- Liphook etc - Just Another Local (2nd Aug 2025  11:26:59) Just reading an article today and it got me thinking. With nearly 10% of the UK adult population using illegal hard drugs, it's probably fair to say that equals about 500 people in the Liphook area, on average. No village, town or city is immune. Apart from the harm it does the user and their family, hard drug use affects crime not just locally or nationally, but globally. Just one drug for example, over 100 tons of cocaine was smuggled into the UK last year from South America with only about 5-10% being intercepted by law enforcement altogether and their methods are getting harder to detect with underwater drones etc! It fuels not just the vicious drugs gangs here, but mass murder and terror in far flung countries in places like central and south America, the Caribbean, Asia, where often whole frightened communities live in terror of the ruthless drug gang murderers. All the criminality along the whole line is paid for by the end user, looking for a fix, waiting for their man, £50 in their hand, without the end user there would be no trade, no millionaires fighting for control, no pushers, peddlers or middle men, no kingpins or producers or other drug fuelled crime . So ironically the person funding the whole thing is both the enabler and the victim, the addict at the end of the line. It's hard, but there is supposedly plenty of help on offer, and if you have kids they will at some point be offered these drugs, just for fun, to join in and not be a prude they'll be told, so make sure you've discussed it with them as best as you can, I'm sure schools teach this but how effective it is I don't know and I''m sure parents are doing their best, I'm not one who blames the parents for all of societies shortcomings! Let's all be vigilant, because it's here, the UK is per capita one if the biggest consumers of this nasty contraband and it can affect anyone, rich, poor, great parents and everyone in-between, in fact stressed out middle class employees from 'good families' are apparently one of the the largest demographics by consumption!!

Re: Illegal Drug Use- Liphook etc - Grape (2nd Aug 2025  13:39:05) Fair enough, most of what you write rings true. But just because there are a few good parents failing their children, the vast majority of failed children are cultivated by failed parents. There are statistical significant differences. Just because the problem occurs throughout society, that doesn't mean that it is evenly spread through society. Denying and hiding the significant differences between societal sectors is a folly that will be unhelpful in dealing with the problem. This soft socialist view of 'we are all the same' betrays the truth and hinders progress. There is much to gain by targeting the more prone parts of society, types of "parenting" resulting in more drug abuse. Studies into the typology of failed families should be taken into account when tackling the problem. Lets stop masking, covering up the difference in the false believe we're protecting the vulnerable from a harsh reality. Stop hiding the truth, sunlight is a very good remedy.

Re: Illegal Drug Use- Liphook etc - Charlie (6th Aug 2025  16:37:07) Grape it depends what you mean by "failed". Are you talking about wealth, poverty, lack of education, intelligence, empathy, respect, consideration and kindness?

Re: Illegal Drug Use- Liphook etc - paul (6th Aug 2025  19:36:49) Hi, Drugs, as part of human life, have been around since millennia. Elephants, Monkeys, Dolphins, and Human Beings, try "recreational" types of drugs.. In our life, abusive, and crimes of substances, is obviously wrong. Natural human instincts, is always difficult to control in wider life.

Re: Illegal Drug Use- Liphook etc - Joe (6th Aug 2025  22:49:00) The original poster is forgetting that the demographic of Liphook does not equate to that of an inner city urban area. Yes there is drug dealing going on I have witnessed it myself in two separate locations in Liphook. We have a large proportion of older people living here who are probably taking legally prescribed pain relieving drugs instead of the illegal ones. With regard younger people-.their parents are supplying them with the money to buy these drugs. Do they really know what they get up to?? Obviously not or there would not be such a demand for illegal drugs.

Re: Illegal Drug Use- Liphook etc - Grape (7th Aug 2025  20:13:17) @- Charlie (6th Aug 2025 - 16:37:07) The answer to your question is in the latter point made by - Charlie (6th Aug 2025 - 16:37:07). In the context of this thread, a failed family is a family allowing kids access to money (be it directly from the parents or otherwise) which ultimately finds its way to paying for illegal drugs.

Re: Illegal Drug Use- Liphook etc - Was Undecided Now Decided (8th Aug 2025  12:25:57) 🚨 SUPREME STATE DECREE No. 91/OPERATIVE-PURITY 🚨 From the High Directorate for Operative Discipline and Substance Abstinence No State Operative shall ingest, inhale, absorb, or otherwise consort with illicit substances unless authorized in triplicate by the Ministry of Exceptional Circumstances. Punishments for Unauthorized Use: First Offense – Six months on Rotational Apology Duty, personally apologising to every lamppost in the village. Second Offense – Permanent posting to the Department of Damp Filing Cabinets, where all State paperwork is slightly moist. Third Offense – Promotion to Test Subject, Category Z, in the State’s experimental paperwork adhesive program. Purity is Loyalty. Loyalty is Survival. — Supreme Comptroller of Vice Eradication, Warden of the Infinite Forms

Re: Illegal Drug Use- Liphook etc - D (10th Aug 2025  18:31:50) Given how pathetic sentences are for drug offences in this country, is any of this surprising? If, like other countries, illegal drug use/supply carried a death sentence, the problem wouldn't be nearly as bad. But when you get longer for cutting a tree down...

Re: Illegal Drug Use- Liphook etc - D (13th Aug 2025  09:00:42) Interesting how no-one in Liphook wants to discuss capital punishment as a means of reducing drugs crime. Is this a measure of how many Liphook residents are snorting away in their living rooms I wonder?

Re: Illegal Drug Use- Liphook etc - Joe (13th Aug 2025  11:19:49) D are you advocating execution, the electric chair or hanging for all drug users?

Re: Illegal Drug Use- Liphook etc - D (13th Aug 2025  15:52:57) Take your pick, Joe. Today's sentences are hardly a deterrent, more an occupational hazard.

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