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Grand Theft Liphook - Phelim McIntyre (9th Dec 2011 - 18:26:21) Have just read in the Herald (so according to Gerrard et al it must be a lie then as the Herald is incapable of printing the truth according to them) that members of the Parish Council have - at the suggestion of the landlord of the Royal Anchor/Hungry Horse - agreed to let the money raised for the updating of the Skateboard Park be used for the Age Concern laundarette at the Peak Centre. While I recognise the need for the laundarette surely as the young people raised the money towards the modernisation of the skateboard park then it should stay for that? To move this money without the concent of the young people who raised the money is theft. Unless the Parish Council is willing to guarantee to replace this money then they should not move it. In fact, as this fund was designated for the Skateboard Park to spend it on anything else may be illegal (but of course as Councillors Gerrard and Hoskins are ex-solicitors their "opinion" may be that they can get away with this). I do not know what Jed at the Hungry Horse has against his future clientelle or members of the Parish Council have against the young people of Bramshott and Liphook but as they have spent money in a way it was not raised for neither Jed nor any of the councillors who voted to reallocate the money have any moral high ground to complain about grafitti or young people not using the skateboard park.

Re: Grand Theft Liphook - Si (9th Dec 2011 - 21:18:23) At least the herald managed to get the landlord's name right; it is Jez, which I believe if you look at your copy of the herald they did print correctly! I appreciate that the youngester need a new skate park but the money was raised 10 years ago, I'm pretty sure 10 years later these 'youngsters' are now frequenting the pub not the park.....

Re: Grand Theft Liphook - Gaffer (9th Dec 2011 - 22:11:00) If you donate money to the RSPCA or Help the Heroes or any other fund raising charity or organisation can that money only be used by people or animals who were in need at the time you donated?? If it was a skate park fund then it should be used for a skate park, if it was raised for the council then use it however they deem neccessary but otherwise you should use it for the reason it was raised for in the first place.

Re: Grand Theft Liphook - Irene Ellis (9th Dec 2011 - 22:19:36) Why don’t you find out the true facts and not believe everything you read in the paper before you start throwing your rattle out the pram. First of all the Laundry will no longer be run by Age Concern after Dec 17th but a new committee has been formed to run it as a charity which will be called Community Support Laundry of Liphook and it was this new charity that the Anchor wished the money to go to. Next the Parish Council Finance Committee. COUNCILLOR GERRARD WAS NOT THERE, looked at the application presented to them from the anchor and turned it down for all the reasons you have stated. They felt that it was inappropriate and possibly illegal to re allocate the funds so the have deferred it back to the anchor for more consultation. So they do know what they are doing. So please please check your facts before you rant on this site because it causes such bad feelings. Irene Ellis ( chairperson of new committee)

Re: Grand Theft Liphook - Paul Robinson (10th Dec 2011 - 08:56:21) Phelim, Theft is a very ugly word especially when applied to a democratically elected public body. If you had bothered to attend the meeting you would have known that the discussion regarding the sum of £560.50 was deferred as it was felt that further consideration should be given to this matter. It should however be noted that the original donation was made over ten years ago and was to be used specifically for lighting around the existing skate park. It is a mark of Jez and Petra's concern for community issues that they felt that this sum could and should be put to better use for a more immediate need i.e.The Community Support Laundry of Liphook. The Parish Council supports the current initiative to improve the skate park facilities on its land at the 'Little Rec' and, although they have not had any written application for funding, or indeed seen any plans, they will I am sure give every consideration to this development. Councillor Jerrard did not attend this meeting of the BLPC Finance and Policy committee and so could not make any comment regarding agenda items, so I fail to see why you should single him out in your criticism of the discussion to award this funding. You failed to mention that he and his wife were the only members of the public to attend your recent meeting at the Church Centre to discuss Liphook's contribution to the celebrations of the forthcoming Olympic Games. Paul Robinson

Re: Grand Theft Liphook - Dawn Hoskins (11th Dec 2011 - 01:29:00) Phelim, I have continually invited you to attend our meetings, but so far have never had the opportunity to meet you. I do so wish that you would come so that you can see with your own eyes and hear with your own ears what the Parish Council really decide etc. You seem like a person that has the interests of the village at heart so it would be good if you could attend to get the truth of matters instead of being fed incorrect stories. I look forward to meeting you at some point so that you can put your mind at rest and know that the Parish Council are working for the betterment of the village and its surrounds. It would be better if you did not read the truth into the 'stories' printed in the Liphook Herald.

Re: Grand Theft Liphook - terry (11th Dec 2011 - 16:22:14) no dawn we dont want him to turn up as liphook woud have a murder on its hand he has been told more than once to check his facts terry

Re: Grand Theft Liphook - Dawn Hoskins (12th Dec 2011 - 12:34:08) in answer to Terry, I do understand why you feel this way Terry, but in order to get people to see what is really happening it is important that those who feel we are all horrible or all liars to come and find out for themselves. If people who are happy to throw mud at the parish council [on the say so of The Herald or a stranger that may not have been to any meetings either] continue to stay away how will they ever find out who is there every week ad who is absent, who does work and who does not etc etc. Also, having heard discussions with their own ears they are then able to judge us [and The Liphook Herald] in a fair way by coming to their OWN conclusions. Any one who is passionate about our village and it's surrounds should be welcomed Terry. We don't have to agree every point, but if we all have the best interests of Liphook at heart then we are all wanting the same thing.

Re: Grand Theft Liphook - Andy Stevenson (13th Dec 2011 - 00:42:44) I really think that there are some sad people on here, if your worried about £500 then maybe you want to start on the fact that my car has just had to have a new exhaust system due to the speed bumps in Tower Road yes £250+ of damage. I do less then the speed limit but damage is still caused. If were really going to start then LIDBA should be brought into it... Why dont they donate any money to the Liphook Carnival?? I have had a read though their website and cant find a single mention of the liphook carnival, yet every year they have a float??? All the road closures etc! do they have to pay the police for their time? £500 is what peanuts, if its sat doing nothing then surely it should be used?? .... It is my understanding that LiDBA usually donates the money raised from the annual CHARITY bike ride to local causes and charities. The Liphook Carnival is another organisation creating funds for local causes. LiDBA does not get any income from entering a float in the carnival.

Re: Grand Theft Liphook - Dawn Hoskins (21st Dec 2011 - 23:26:26) I also think the tower Road bump are too high, especially the one at the end of the road (near the co-op).

Re: Grand Theft Liphook - john (22nd Dec 2011 - 23:34:05) Grand theft liphook £8500 was a good start!

Re: Grand Theft Liphook - Stephen D (23rd Dec 2011 - 09:29:57) A thought: skateboarders can use the Matterhorn-sized speed bumps in Tower Road (and in Lindford) and save everyone the trouble of needing a dedicated skate park. Merry Xmas

Re: Grand Theft Liphook - ginge (28th Dec 2011 - 17:29:21) oi yeah that money is ours, and we are trying to raise more for a newer skate park 10 years later and the parish council know that and its out of order.

Re: Grand Theft Liphook - helen (28th Dec 2011 - 17:56:37) If the money was raised ten years ago the people for whom it was raised then, are a different generation and they are the ones it belongs to, if any of them are now involved with raising money can we hear from them?

Re: Grand Theft Liphook - Dave (29th Dec 2011 - 13:50:39) I'm not a fan of the Skate Park. However if the money was raised for that particular project then that is,what it should be used for no matter who the persons now running the fund raising happen to be.

Re: Grand Theft Liphook - Andrew Ellis (15th Jan 2012 - 17:39:56) Phelim. Whilst you might be technically and legally correct Liphook skate park has had it's day. The youths of Liphook made a brilliant case to have the skate park built initially with the use of council/public funds. Unfortunately this time has passed and there are other more important issues for the residents of Liphook to be spending the raised funds on. I am sure any idividual who donated originally to that fund would be more than happy to have it now channelled into a facility used for caring for our growing elderly population. If you could think of a suitable, non religious activity for the youths of Liphook to use I am sure this would be widely accepted by the members of the Parish Council and the residents of Liphook alike. The Parish Coucil has certain responsibilities and restrictions as to who they can allocate this money to and I am sure the right decision will be made. Please remove yourself from your high religious horse, and remember I have known since you were a baby and you are misguided. I am sure the only way the use of this money would satisfy you would be if we bought a few loaves and a couple of fishes and some wine and let the whole of Liphook enjoy he experience. Move on, and let the money be used for a worthy community cause. Don't forget, you too will be old soon and will be in need of assistance with your own laundry.

Re: Grand Theft Liphook - Dawn Hoskins (16th Jan 2012 - 16:10:40) In reply to the comment made by 'Giinge' oi yeah that money is ours, and we are trying to raise more for a newer skate park 10 years later and the parish council know that and its out of order. ........ The money was given for a specific project and had a tight description. That being tall floodlights around the perimeter of the current metal jumps. The problem arose when permission was not obtained for this due to the residential nature of the area. The PC have not 'taken' the money, but have held in trust [according the rules of trusts law and Charities Law] until that purpose can be fulfilled. The sutuation has been resolved to the benefit of all concerned now, with the original donation being given back to the person who presented it. It is now up to that person to decide what to do. Good luck with the fund raising.

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