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Lack of Supermarket fruit and veg on shelves going forward. - paul (21st Feb 2023 - 16:50:52) Hi, U.K. food stores are having low levels of healthy foods. There are various reasons for current shortages. In Liphook can we survive for our families?

Re: Lack of Supermarket fruit and veg on shelves going forward. - Re (21st Feb 2023 - 19:31:14) Loads of fresh fruit and veg at petersfield market Wednesday and Saturday. And county market that’s just for starters. No need to panic we will NOT run out of food in this country.

Re: Lack of Supermarket fruit and veg on shelves going forward. - L (21st Feb 2023 - 20:09:34) We will never run out of… famous last words

Re: Lack of Supermarket fruit and veg on shelves going forward. - paul (21st Feb 2023 - 20:44:06) Hi, Wonder about fuel costs, and environmental miles to these locations, to purchase available produce.

Re: Lack of Supermarket fruit and veg on shelves going forward. - Joe (21st Feb 2023 - 20:56:59) Paul it is only some imported salad items and broccoli which could be in short supply. We always survived not eating salads in the winter until we imported these items we ate seasonal foods. You can eat enough fruit and veg in your diet especially if you use some frozen veg in addition to fresh.

Re: Lack of Supermarket fruit and veg on shelves going forward. - Joe (21st Feb 2023 - 21:20:21) Paul you make a point about environmental food miles- the current shortages are in imported food stuffs from Spain and Morocco and the food we buy in Sainsburys is hardly local is it? It arrives in huge container lorries from a central depot, after it has been packed and processed elsewhere, either from abroad or this from this country but not anywhere locally.

Re: Lack of Supermarket fruit and veg on shelves going forward. - Ian (22nd Feb 2023 - 05:47:28) Paul up to his scaremongering again! He picks and chooses his headlines and then tries to exploits peoples fears for his own twisted agenda

Re: Lack of Supermarket fruit and veg on shelves going forward. - dave (22nd Feb 2023 - 10:40:11) Paul, what exactly are you hoping to achieve with this post? It is bizarre! are you trying to infer we are on the brink of famine or malnutrition?....or are you just attention seeking?

Re: Lack of Supermarket fruit and veg on shelves going forward. - Anne (22nd Feb 2023 - 11:12:18) Dave, you have it in one - Attention Seeking. He just likes to start arguments too.

Re: Lack of Supermarket fruit and veg on shelves going forward. - Joe (22nd Feb 2023 - 11:13:25) Maybe Paul is extremely bored and likes to provoke in responses on here for fun. He is certainly very silly wondering if we in Liphook will be coping any worse than anywhere else. Eat frozen peas instead of lettuce Paul.

Re: Lack of Supermarket fruit and veg on shelves going forward. - gr (22nd Feb 2023 - 11:15:51) go back to seasonal veg and grow your own worked in the old days

Re: Lack of Supermarket fruit and veg on shelves going forward. - Russ (22nd Feb 2023 - 11:29:05) Yes gr we have a 6ft x 10 ft raised bed supplies us with all our veg and strawberries. Potato’s in bags and tubs lovely. People can be more self sufficient than they think.

Re: Lack of Supermarket fruit and veg on shelves going forward. - dave (22nd Feb 2023 - 13:32:50) The point is Russ, no-one needs to be self sufficient. There is a legitimate debate about the pleasures of enjoying the crops of the seasons, but this is about Paul fuelling peoples anxieties with his stupid, attention seeking contributions. He did it with Covid and no doubt he will continue to get warped pleasure from knowing some will get stressed by his posts.

Re: Lack of Supermarket fruit and veg on shelves going forward. - Russ (22nd Feb 2023 - 14:03:34) Totally agree he’s just like that on a lot of threads take no notice of him but I still like my own veg etc . Also it is very rewarding to grow your own if you can tastes better to . People i think will have to adjust the way they shop and what they eat because of the way the weather is affecting growing seasons Buying imported food sometimes is not the way. We should try and buy what is on offer from our own farmers and learn to adapt our eating.

Re: Lack of Supermarket fruit and veg on shelves going forward. - paul (22nd Feb 2023 - 15:19:10) Hi, Gardens in modern homes are much smaller than yesteryear of the current generations spaces. To have available areas to grow fruit and veg in our northern hemisphere climate |(ever changing due to global warning) is difficult. U.K. farmers, growers, are all struggling with ever increasing costs, to make any business worthwhile continuing. It's a irony we are encouraged to eat healthy, but the availability and cost becomes an issue to live.

Re: Lack of Supermarket fruit and veg on shelves going forward. - (Another, but not 'that' Paul) (22nd Feb 2023 - 15:41:49) @paul - crikey, you need to stop trolling people on here and get a life! And stop bringing the name 'paul' into disrepute!!

Re: Lack of Supermarket fruit and veg on shelves going forward. - yellow bannana Adrian (22nd Feb 2023 - 16:04:45) The most important thing are there enough green bananas to go round, Sainsburys normally have loads.

Re: Lack of Supermarket fruit and veg on shelves going forward. - Joe (22nd Feb 2023 - 17:12:41) Paul, a packet of frozen peas costs about 1 pound there is little waste. People who grow their own are happy to eat their produce in season. A kilo of fresh carrots costs about 60p or sometimes less. It has become nonsense to fly beans in from Kenya etc no good for the planet. I have a lovely apple tree which when looked after properly can produce masses of home grown apples. There are ways to manage without tomatoes in February.

Re: Lack of Supermarket fruit and veg on shelves going forward. - Joe (22nd Feb 2023 - 17:15:19) Paul, a packet of frozen peas costs about 1 pound there is little waste. People who grow their own are happy to eat their produce in season. A kilo of fresh carrots costs about 60p or sometimes less. It has become nonsense to fly beans in from Kenya etc no good for the planet. I have a lovely apple tree which when looked after properly can produce masses of home grown apples. There are ways to manage without tomatoes in February.

Re: Lack of Supermarket fruit and veg on shelves going forward. - Paul Robinson (22nd Feb 2023 - 19:26:46) If we are to be limited to three Brussels Sprouts, then is has got my vote! Paul Robinson

Re: Lack of Supermarket fruit and veg on shelves going forward. - Russ (22nd Feb 2023 - 20:47:28) Come on Paul Sunday roast with out Brussels. Like missing out Yorkshire puds . And a Christmas dinner with out Brussels just not on .

Re: Lack of Supermarket fruit and veg on shelves going forward. - Russ (26th Feb 2023 - 13:50:45) Just been to the country market . Very busy and a car boot sale on. No shortages of anything every sort of veg box’s of tomatoes and leeks . So no need to panic the meat counter fully stocked as usual fantastic quality. Cheese counter amazing especially the Somerset Brie far better than the French stuff much creamier. And no I don’t have shares in the place wish I had.

Re: Lack of Supermarket fruit and veg on shelves going forward. - Sam (26th Feb 2023 - 16:51:30) Supermarkets in Europe have no shortages in fruit, prices are up but plenty available. When EU growers have problems the UK or indeed anyone outside the EU will be the first to feel it, those in the EU will get first come first serve as trading within the EU is so easy

Re: Lack of Supermarket fruit and veg on shelves going forward. - Russ (26th Feb 2023 - 18:18:04) No Sam you as usual not correct. I have friends in Spain quite a bit of shortages there because of the weather. We in this country fare better because we are out of the EU and can make our own decisions. Farmers are rising to the challenge because they are not restricted by the EU . The trading between us and the EU we knew would be difficult because of the sheer pig headedness of the EU Mr Macron especially he hates us getting on so will stop at nothing to stop us but the old British spirit will win through. Don’t believe all the hype you read in the media the remainers are saying all sorts of rubbish just to try and get the country back in, heaven forbid.

Re: Lack of Supermarket fruit and veg on shelves going forward. - Joe (26th Feb 2023 - 19:25:31) Russ British farmers cannot grow tomatoes and salad items in this weather in Feb without huge greenhouse heating costs. I have friends in Portugal who report that all salad items are plentiful with no supply problems. It is partly down to leaving the EU and the difficulties of importation.

Re: Lack of Supermarket fruit and veg on shelves going forward. - passfield resident (26th Feb 2023 - 20:10:40) Usual nonsensical platitudes Russ. You would have been better off not posting as anyone reading it can see the feebleness of the arguments you put forward.

Re: Lack of Supermarket fruit and veg on shelves going forward. - Joe (26th Feb 2023 - 21:40:38) Russ I have friends in Portugal they have no shortages in any food stuffs including salad items. It is not a European problem only a problem for us. Hopefully things will improve if Ritchie Sunak negotiates a good deal for us. Also how would British farmers be able to supply us with cucumbers and tomatoes in Feb unless they are produced in very expensively heated greenhouses which would make the product unaffordable for most people.

Re: Lack of Supermarket fruit and veg on shelves going forward. - Russ (26th Feb 2023 - 21:47:29) Same old comebacks from remainers cannot except we are out job done. Yes we have problems with importing and exporting NOT our fault the EU are still bitter and playing silly buggers we could all still trade sensible if they would stop being silly. The world doesn’t stop because the EU are having problems. We have the best farmers in the world we WILL survive and it will be the EUs loss for not seeing sense. As for food it’s plentiful.

Re: Lack of Supermarket fruit and veg on shelves going forward. - Sam (26th Feb 2023 - 22:08:43) As always Russ, you are incorrect. Yes there are difficulty's across the EU but they get first pick as they 1. Grow it 2. Select whom they will supply (Clearly not us) so the difficulty's in the EU are NOT shortages nor as acute as in the UK due to the more difficult trading arrangements.

Re: Lack of Supermarket fruit and veg on shelves going forward. - Ian (27th Feb 2023 - 07:32:13) Russ, please can you back up with FACTS your statement “we have the best farmers in the world’? I am not a remainer but I also don’t subscribe to mindless nationalism and the childish statements made by fanatical Brexiteers that somehow England is the best nation in the world! The country is in a mess and it’s not just the EU to blame.

Re: Lack of Supermarket fruit and veg on shelves going forward. - Dave (27th Feb 2023 - 08:08:53) Russ, you remind me of someone who divorced their wife as they wanted to enjoy the benefits of being a free agent, yet when they cannot find anyone else interested in being available, and despite their divorce agreement, they want the wife to continue to provide the marital benefits, albeit without the obligations of marriage! We have left the EU, accept that as well as walking away from the negatives, we have also walked away from the benefits and stop blaming the EU for all our problems.

Re: Lack of Supermarket fruit and veg on shelves going forward. - Russ (27th Feb 2023 - 10:26:49) Well having been told not to post anymore by passfied resident because I have a different view takes the biscuit. Being told I’m mindless for loving my country?? . And Dave rambling on about divorce . We have gone of subject food around here plentiful. Supplies in the EU not so good friends in Majorca say they have snow and the weather is the worst they can remember and they have been there 40 years supply’s not good. In the media today bad weather in Morocco and Spain causing shortages so we are not the only ones suffering with bad weather. As for the EU causing problems here the farmers had to contend with restrictions on land use ridiculous quotas livestock restrictions I could go on . Dare I mention fishing completely destroyed by the EU then they send in huge trawlers to hoover up all the fish and tell us not to complain??. So I’m not a fan of being told what to do by that lot over there so corrupt it beggars belief. I no you all will burst a blood vessel but the MAJORITY of this country voted out so let’s get on with it and I’m not going to apologise for loving my country.

Re: Lack of Supermarket fruit and veg on shelves going forward. - er (27th Feb 2023 - 13:20:55) Guys stop panicking, I managed to get a tomato, just one, from Tesco today. If anyone is interested make me an offer, starting bid £10, cash on collection, or £50 gets you a Prime sugar drink thrown in!

Re: Lack of Supermarket fruit and veg on shelves going forward. - Joe (27th Feb 2023 - 14:08:54) You still have not addressed my point Russ that we do not grow salad items here in Feb regardless of the weather we do not have the right climate for it. Loving your country is fine but we are not doing too well at the moment and most of us are aware of that.

Re: Lack of Supermarket fruit and veg on shelves going forward. - Russ (27th Feb 2023 - 15:16:34) Last post Joe we all know we don’t grow salad stuff in the winter unless you grow it in greenhouses and at this moment that’s not on because of the cost nothing to do with the EU . If we still belong to the EU as they are suffering just the same do think they would give us salad stuff before themselves I don’t think so . So we have to make the best of it go without for a few weeks no hardship not to have tomatoes or a cucumber. Panic buying does not help remember the loo roll fiasco. You say about climate here but we are now producing world winning wine and the French are buying vineyards here. So thing’s really aren’t as bad as we are lead to believe by the media. And it’s a fact the continent are suffering as we are. And if this war continues it will be much harder and those of you that haven’t experienced it may not be able to cope. So no more because this has been covered on other threads.

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