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Time for the Parish Council to Come Clean or Resign - Phelim McIntyre (15th Sep 2011 - 13:17:45) Having read the news article about the suspension of the Parish Clerk and the temporary assistant Clerk it is time for be as open as they said they would be or go - especially Don Jerrard. It may come as news to people but Councillor Jerrard sits on Greatham Parish Council. During his time on the council the ENTIRE council has resigned at least twice and clerks have come and gone as if in a revolving door. According to the article the locks on the Parish Council Office were changed - yet the only person with the power to agree such financial expenditure is the Clerk NOT the Finance Committee. So who contacted the locksmith? Having gone to vote today I have heard from a number of people that the locksmith was contacted BEFORE the evening meeting when the decision was taken. I do not know whether this is true or not as I was not witness to the event - but the fact that people from all parties are discussing this outside the Church Centre is worrying We have been told,a number of times, that an investigation is under way to do with the finances and the accounting of the Parish. As yet there is no minutes of any part of the investigation and there is no record of who is undertaking the investigation - why not? Even other Parish Council members do not know who is undertaking the investigation. Mr Jerrard, Eve Hope (who claims to have "left" the Conservatives because of what the coalition is doing to join the Lib Dems - who also are part of the coalition - though the real reason appears to be that, unlike her husband, she never does anything), and others campaigned on openness but here is just one example of the complete opposite, the current Parish Council - and especially the Finance and Policy Committee of Mike Croucher, Rob Evans, Eve Hope, Jackie Poole, Don Jerrard, and Dawn Hoskins (another "we will be open"). The Monday evening meeting excluded not only the public but OTHER PARISH COUNCILORS. Why? This is no where near the openness an transparancy that Mr Jerrard promised to ensure the Parish Council meetings where. For a specific claim that has not been met - Mr Jerrard's election leaflet states the following "I will make sure that - Meetings of the Council are transparent and democratic with no more deals behind closed doors." So why are the names of the people undertaking the investigation into "Large payments of your money have been made to the Parish Clerk following his claims of bullying, and then on solicitors instructed by the Council. The solicitors’ advice was not even shown to all the Councillors. But it was seen by Cllr Mrs James who voted for the payments, even though the Clerk is her second cousin." These large payments are called compensation for the false allegations by Counsellor Hoskins and others which led to Mr Groves previous suspension It also appears that Anne Haussauer has had her contract terminated without being given a reason. If this is true then Don Jerrard, as "a retired solicitor, having been a senior partner of a major International Law Firm" will know that this is illegal. I have also been informed by people from all political parties that Mr Jerrard's election campaign was reported to the police and was deemed to be only just legal. According to his own website the co-founder of the Justice and Anti-corruption Party Mr Les Cummings is facing court action because of libelous comments he made about Mr Michael Hancock MP for Portsmouth South, during the 2010 election. Mr Jerrard appears to have decided that by fair means or foul he must get rid of Tony Groves as Parish Clerk (see his own election leaflets for evidence ) because he is Anna James second cousin. This family connection there by makes him unsuitable to hold office just as Mr Gerrard's colleague Mr Cummings appears to believe that Mr Hancock's wife and daughter are incapable of acting as paid research assistants or as local councilors in Portsmouth because of their relationship to Mr Hancock. Whether Mr Groves is guilty or not, and whether I like Mr Groves or not is not relevant. What is relevant is that the Finance and Resources Committee have not acted with the proper procedures in either suspending Mr Groves, terminating the contract of Mrs Haussauer, changing solicitors or appointing Pauline Lucas. May I point out that Ms Lucas works with Mr Jerrard elsewhere - surely this makes Ms Lucas as unsuitable for the task she has been appointed to as Mr Jerrard believes Mr Groves is. By not taking consideration of the due process Mr Gerrard, Mrs Hoskins, Mr Evans, Mrs Poole and Mrs Hope have opened the Parish Council to yet another large sum of money, just as they have opened the Parish Council to legal action by their change of solicitors. It is time for Councilors Jerrard, Hope, Hoskins, Evans and Poole to other live up to their promise of openness or resign before they destroy not only Mr Groves life but also the Parish Council and the village - though this seems to be their intent.

Re: Time for the Parish Council to Come Clean or Resign - Peter (15th Sep 2011 - 14:31:50) I absolutely agree with this thread - Don Jerrard should resign and restrict his activities to Greatham and let Liphook people run our village

Re: Time for the Parish Council to Come Clean or Resign - Jane G (15th Sep 2011 - 16:44:40) I too bought The Herald today and read the front page with something of an open mouth! My view is that it is totally inappropriate to suggest that the PC should come clean or resign. Phelim, you have 'heard' that the decision to change the locks was made before the meeting. You also state a number of other things that you claim to be fact...are they? or are they just supposition? You say that there is no record of who is undertaking the investigation into past finances. My understanding from reading past threads on here is that the F&P committee are investigating and had undertaken to not sign off the previous accounts until they had fully understood them. The fact that the results are not yet published is probably because they have not yet finished investigating. Anyone who has not yet read The Herald article perhaps should note that the finance committee had received 'a whistle blowing document....from a member of staff' and they have been told that they 'were not allowed to discuss it in public' and it was 'completely confidential'. The statement issued by the PC also states 'serious allegations have been reported to the council concerning the conduct of the clerk....Mr Groves has been suspended from his post to allow for the council to conduct a full and fair investigation of the allegations as quickly as possible'. I'm not quite sure what else you would expect them to do given this information but I am sure both Mr Groves and the PC want this matter to be dealt with expediently for the sake of all concerned. And I am sure that Mr Groves himself would not want details of the allegations to be discussed on a public forum whether they are true or untrue. So why, Phelim, would you expect the PC to publish minutes documenting the details of the reasons why they have suspended the clerk when they clearly have further investigative work to do? You must realise that none of the parish councillors can answer your questions on a public forum when the matter is clearly confidential...so these people don't really have a come back do they? You can say whatever you like on here, they can't answer! As a villager, I really object to people like you trying to stir things up with hearsay and rumour. If it is found that something 'illegal' has been done by either the PC or the clerk, then I am sure the truth will out. It was only a few months ago that many people in Liphook voted to oust much of the old PC. Why can't you give the new PC a chance to sort things out?...it isn't going to happen overnight and clearly they are working through some legacy issues.

Re: Time for the Parish Council to Come Clean or Resign - helen (15th Sep 2011 - 17:23:40) Phelim, The clerk has no power where to spend mony, that is what councillors decide, that is the reason for the FINANCE AND POLICY COMMITTEE! If the clerk was autonomous then fair enough but the councillors as a corprate body are his employers. As regards a temporary contract then I believe that things are worked differently. I believe the lady in question resigned her permanant job there some years ago, quoted unbearable stress why would she want to go back there? Perhaps her temporary contract was up anyway who knows?

Re: Time for the Parish Council to Come Clean or Resign - Frances (15th Sep 2011 - 18:28:09) You have obviously had a day for gossip at the elections Phelim. You must remember that all those Parish Councillors who you wish to have thrown out, have been voted in by the electorate. We should all wait to see the outcome of the actions which have been taken by the Parish Council and idle speculation such as yours does nothing to help the situation.

Re: Time for the Parish Council to Come Clean or Resign - Dawn Hoskins (15th Sep 2011 - 18:48:31) Dear all, I have not yet seen the paper but can answer a number of questions raised by Phelim. It is common knowledge that Cllr Jerrard sits on Greatham Parish Council and is co-founder of the JAC Political Party. The HR provider, Ms Lucas, has never worked with any member of the council before. If she had known any of us from any other walk of life she would not have been hired. The Parish Council can appoint whoever they vote [by resolution] to appoint. Changing Solicitors will not open the council to legal action. Neither would changing the supplier of any service. The Finance and Policy Committee have responsibility for all staffing matters and are duty bound to take action, as any employer would have to, if whistle-blowing documents are submitted. Our hands are tied in this matter by the Public Interest Disclosure Act 1998. Disclosures are to be communicated to the minimum number of people to protect the identities of the persons who have blown the whistle. The identity of the staff members are known to the Finance and Policy Committee and it is they who must investigate and ‘anonymise’ any data to protect names from being uncovered. We have acted in absolutely the correct manner given the circumstances and followed procedures laid down by law – to the letter. The locks were changed due to the nature of the situation. The Finance and Policy Committee were advised to do this given the nature of the allegations made. As one of the persons involved, I find it extraordinarily unlikely that any information regarding the locksmith that you have heard is accurate. However, I cannot stop inaccurate rumours from circulating. An investigation is underway by the Accounts and Annual Return Working Party. This working party was set up at the very first meeting of the new council and the report is on the Council Website. The members of this WP are undertaking the investigation; this has been on record since May, when the Annual Return Governance Statement was not signed. The members consist of the two members who could not sign the annual return governance statement [being myself and Don Jerrard] and also the Chairman of the Council and the Chairman of the Finance and Policy Committee. All of the Councillors of Bramshott and Liphook Parish Council know about this. I have not made any allegations. I have made witness statements as to what I have seen with my own eyes.

Re: Time for the Parish Council to Come Clean or Resign - Jock Trodden (15th Sep 2011 - 19:55:11) Dear Mr Phlem McIntyre, Having read your rantings its difficult to know where to start. What is clear to me is that you are misinformed at many levels. Para 1: Councillor Don Jerrard does sit on the Greatham Parish Council (GPC) and does a sterling job in his many service positions. It is completely untrue nonsense to say the entire council resigned twice The new GPC was elected unopposed and there are several councillors’ who were on the previous administration. GPC is moving forward with village business under the chairmanship of Paul Larner. Don Jerrard is a valued member of GBC and being an ex solicitor can guide us through the sometimes complicated procedures we have to follow. Perhaps I suggest you have your own agenda here. Para 2: Did you know the clerk refused to provide documents in the Liphook Parish Council (LPC) domain when asked to do so by the investigation working party of the current council indeed, I understand he banned all councillors from the council offices. Is it not just possible the clerk has been “at it” along with several of the previous incumbents, Nigel Newman, John Tough, Greg Amey, Anna James and has been busying himself “amending” the records? Perhaps I suggest you have your own agenda here. Para 3: I understand an in depth investigation is underway. Like any other investigation which may result in criminal or civil charges being brought against the “accused”, all evidence has to be meticulously gathered and filed in and orderly fashion. Then the investigators, whoever they may be, including the police, have to review the evidence and consider the position. How could this possibly be done when the clerk, a public servant, refuses to cooperate? Can you imagine the police publishing their evidence to the public before a trial had taken place? Be reasonable Phlem. You are also extremely unkind to Eve Hope. She is chair of LPC and doing a sterling job. She works as hard (or harder) as any other member and is very well thought of by all. Is is possible the “false allegations “ to which you refer are true and were not fully investigated by an unbiased professional investigator. Here is does not help to have read the absolute nonsense written by the ever vexatious Gabrielle Pikie of the Liphook Herald. Is it not possible she is a friend of Newman an Groves?? Perhaps I suggest you have your own agenda here. Para 4: I understand Anne Haussauer was appointed by the previous administration without the position being advertised in the public domain. Jobs for mates who do our bidding has long been the downfall of many businesses and political parties. One only needs to look at the debacle of David Cameron’s “mate” Andy Coulson. What does “only just legal” mean Phlem ? Hancock was “at it” but like so many other politicians he wormed his way out it or so it seems to date. Whether he did it or not, Les Cummings has nothing to do with Liphook. Perhaps I suggest you have your own agenda here. Para 5 & 6. I do not believe Mr Jerrard has anything personal against Tony Groves. Don Jerrard is an honest decent man who abhors corruption in local government. All of his spare time is spent dealing with council business in Liphook and Greatham and we ought to be grateful that a man of his integrity is on the side of the taxpayers of these parishes. It is vexatious on your part to try and link him to the Hancock debacle. Phlem, I suggest you have your own agenda here. Jock Trodden Headley Road

Re: Time for the Parish Council to Come Clean or Resign - Eneida (15th Sep 2011 - 21:50:51) I am so sick and tired of these accusations and counter accusations regarding the Clerk/the PC and various other persons, that have been going on for quite some time now without any resolution, that for the first time since I moved to Liphook I just couldn't be bothered to vote!! I don't know if anybody else felt the same, although I suspect many did...and I suggest the current PC, which was recently elected, get this can of worms sorted out ASAP otherwise apathy will set in amongst all the electorate.

Re: Time for the Parish Council to Come Clean or Resign - john (15th Sep 2011 - 22:37:45) I note in the herald mr Austin-Olsen has crawled out from under his stone to state his chum the clerk is being persecuted,

Re: Time for the Parish Council to Come Clean or Resign - Andrew (16th Sep 2011 - 10:51:01) Dear All, Despite the great dirth of information provided within the above posts i feel the need to ask a further question for clarification; Why are the individuals who from most reports the source of the allegations against the Parish Clerk the ones who are conducting the investigation, surely in the interests of a true and just investigation impartial parties should be used? I look forward to the answer to this question eagerly, Many Thanks Andrew

Re: Time for the Parish Council to Come Clean or Resign - helen (16th Sep 2011 - 13:04:28) I think if any staff anywhere were under reviw employers would not neccessarily call in outsiders who are not connected to the company. Procedures for dealing with staff and serious concerns anywhere are considered an in house matter surely?..That is Human resources dept surely?

Re: Time for the Parish Council to Come Clean or Resign - Andrew (16th Sep 2011 - 13:15:30) Hi Helen, In a private company where the details of any such events were not in the news this would be true, however the parish council is a local body that should be subservient to the wishes of their parishners. Additionally if an employee and their boss were in a dispute that boss would not be the person conducting the inquest into the afair, which is what appears to be the case in this matter. Many Thanks Andrew

Re: Time for the Parish Council to Come Clean or Resign - Jane G (16th Sep 2011 - 15:27:30) Andrew, Perhaps you should re-read Dawn's post above, notably "The Finance and Policy Committee have responsibility for all staffing matters and are duty bound to take action, as any employer would have to, if whistle-blowing documents are submitted. Our hands are tied in this matter by the Public Interest Disclosure Act 1998. Disclosures are to be communicated to the minimum number of people to protect the identities of the persons who have blown the whistle. The identity of the staff members are known to the Finance and Policy Committee and it is they who must investigate and ‘anonymise’ any data to protect names from being uncovered. We have acted in absolutely the correct manner given the circumstances and followed procedures laid down by law – to the letter" Enough said!

Re: Time for the Parish Council to Come Clean or Resign - Andrew (16th Sep 2011 - 18:21:53) Hi Jane, Perhaps i was not making my point clear, i was not stating that this is the way it must proceed according to the rules but that in this case following the rules will likely lead to a biased un-just finding. Many thanks Andrew P.S. i doubt there will ever be enough said on this issue for some people :P

Re: Time for the Parish Council to Come Clean or Resign - Phelim McIntyre (19th Sep 2011 - 13:00:02) Oh dear - yes Jerrard is on the Greatham Parish Council, and he is the only one not to have resigned. The members of the Parish Council who have jumped to defend their actions still have not told us who is doing the investigation into Mr Groves compensation from the last time he was suspended when Dawn Hoskins' evidence was thrown out by EHDC. Will they tell us who is carrying out the investigation. The people who were talking about the locksmith being called BEFORE THE EVENT were Parish Councillors. As to who has the power to spend the Parish Councils money - as anybody who has received grant cheques from the Parish Council will tell you, they are signed by the Clerk. The vendettas of Hoskins, Jerrard, Croucher and others have made this Parish Council a terrible parody of something of Midsomer Murders, and if they do not like people like me asking questions then they should stop acting like idiots and get on with doing a job rather than attacking someone trying to do their job.

Re: Time for the Parish Council to Come Clean or Resign - Frances (19th Sep 2011 - 13:46:32) Phelim, Why don\'t you give us the names of the Parish Councillors who gave you your information?

Re: Time for the Parish Council to Come Clean or Resign - dawn hoskins (19th Sep 2011 - 17:54:32) If you read my post, it spells out exactly who is on the Finance and Policy Committee and exactly who is on the Working Party. Apart from our names are you after some other form of identification! Apart from me, two other councillors were aware of the provisional booking of the locksmith. The locksmith was contacted to check availability should the resolutions be passed. He confirmed that he could attend either on Monday evening or Tuesday morning. We called on Monday after the Finance and Policy meeting to confirm that he should attend on Tuesday morning. I reiterate, it is highly unlikely that you have been told accurate information. I am quite happy that you ask questions, but it is pointless slagging off points of action that we are not permitted to discuss. We are duty bound to act in this way – we have no choice.

Re: Time for the Parish Council to Come Clean or Resign - Roy (20th Sep 2011 - 13:59:10) When I read the Herald I thought “Oh no not again!” I only know some of the people involved and I am certainly not privy to all the facts but in my opinion the manner in which the Parish Council have handled this matter is insensitive, unprofessional and disrespectful to the people of Liphook. If it wasn’t so serious because it affects real people and their lives it would make a good comedy show. Dear Parish Council the people of Liphook are laughing at you!!!!!

Re: Time for the Parish Council to Come Clean or Resign - john (20th Sep 2011 - 20:36:16) Roy if you dont know the facts then why comment?

Re: Time for the Parish Council to Come Clean or Resign - Phelim McIntyre (21st Sep 2011 - 13:27:32) Councillor Hoskins Lets ask some questions to see if you are willing to answer them: Why was Mrs Hausser's contact terminated? Why does she not know the reason? Who are the members of the group investigating the money paid to Mr Groves? Money that was paid to Mr Groves as compensation for his suspension that was led by YOUR accusations, accusations that were thrown out by the investigating committee at East Hampshire District Council? Why did not the sub-committee, that you are part of, not inform the rest of the Parish Council about their actions? Why was the first that some members of the Parish Council know about the sub-committees actions them being contacted by the local press? Why did 5 members of the committee turn up - before the opening of the Parish Council office to suspend 1 person and terminate - without giving a reason - the contract of another? Why, when you had 5 to 2, was it deemed necessary to have police at the Council Offices to "keep the peace"? Why was it necessary to change the locks this time when it was not necessary to change the locks the first time? Who other than the clerk has the power to sign cheques or release payment from the Parish Council's account so that the locksmith could be paid? In all you comments you have failed to answer these questions, even when the issues were raised. You, Jerrard and others are bringing Bramshott and Liphook Parish Council into disrepute by your actions. For the good of the community you, Hope, Croucher, Jerrard and others should resign before you bankrupt the Parish by allowing people to sue for compensation.

Re: Time for the Parish Council to Come Clean or Resign - concerned (21st Sep 2011 - 18:12:06) Phelm, If you had been at the last meeting you would have heard the replies to all your questions. Now see the thread about the Council meeting and all is explained by Jack. You need to check your facts before writing on here. Dawn Hoskins, et al are doing a good job in bringing out the bad side of the previous lot so should be left to do so. they are all reporting there findings at the meetings. So you need to attend and hear it first hand.

Re: Time for the Parish Council to Come Clean or Resign - boris (21st Sep 2011 - 21:26:18) I understand that "a suitably qualified person" is to be engaged on a temporary basis to run things at the PC because those persons who have stepped in to run things whilst the Clerk is suspended etc cannot cope. No doubt this "suitably qualified person" will be engaged on the normal wonderful salary such temporary persons are paid,, at the expense of the poor taxpayer.

Re: Time for the Parish Council to Come Clean or Resign - helen (22nd Sep 2011 - 01:21:37) I thought I had answered the question about the finance, the clerk is employed by the council, the councillors have signing authority, and can sign cheques. Some parish councils do not even have a clerk, they are not always an essential item in a small parish. I am not suggesting Liphook does not need paid staff but they are not always to be found, and some small councils share one clerk with another parish council. The parish office is not the clerks private property. It is only a place of employment, the employers are the councillors.

Re: Time for the Parish Council to Come Clean or Resign - dawn hoskins (22nd Sep 2011 - 10:31:16) Dear Phelim, Firstly, may I suggest that you attend the Council meetings? That is the correct place to ask questions to the full council (rather than just me) and it also means that your point is dealt with directly from the Committee or Working Party dealing with your particular issues. Our meetings are becoming very well attended now because we are making a point of welcoming the public and giving everyone time to ask about anything that is worrying them. Had you attended the last meeting, everything would have been (and was) explained very clearly and in great depth. We particularly allowed for a very extended period to allow for all public questions to be answered. You have been ‘fed’ untrue information re: The investigative committee to which you continue to refer. They DID NOT investigate the clerk’s behaviour what-so-ever. In fact they were given a remit which specifically prevented them from doing so. The very fact that they did not do this means that they did not evaluate any witness infomation relating to his behaviour. The ONLY thing they were permitted to investigate was whether Councillor Evans acted correctly when he raised the issue with the Clerk. Your point that ‘accusations’ were thrown out are therefore completely wrong - they were never present so were therefore never thrown out. Every member of the Finance and Policy Committee attended the Parish Office on Tuesday 13th September. We did this so that no individual member could be ‘targeted’ as acting alone. We had no plans to inform the press at that time; however [someone] telephoned Ms Pike from the Herald, who arrived demanding a press release. Knowing that Ms Pike would ‘mash it up’ [which proved to be true] we sent the press release to the Petersfield paper who are based in this universe [rather than the alternative reality inhabited by the Herald]. It was very unfortunate that Ms Pike turned up. We had not planned for it and wished to inform Councillors and staff first. I can confirm that when the clerk was suspended previously, he continued to come in to the Parish Office. On this occasion, due to the nature of the whistleblowing received, the clerk was specifically instructed not to enter council premises. I can confirm that the Police were called to remove the clerk from the Haskell Centre. This has now happened twice. Mr McIntyre, I am afraid that you have been deliberately fed untrue information so that you will be a ‘mouth-piece’ for someone else. Probably someone not brave enough to label a thread with their own name up. You cannot rely on people WHO HAVE NOT ATTENDED meetings to give you any sort of accurate information. I would ask you please, to tell us who is feeding you with such poor information. When you are happy to do so, I will be happy to discuss the matter further with you. The truth will continue to elude you if you chose to avoid it.

Re: Time for the Parish Council to Come Clean or Resign - Jane G (22nd Sep 2011 - 11:35:10) Well said Dawn, it's good to hear the facts and hopefully people will actually believe them as they come straight from the horse's mouth so to speak! I am sure that there is a lot more the PC would like to say to defend their actions but your hands are obviously tied for the right reasons. What the people of Liphook do not need to read is all the hearsay and rumour spouted by people like Phelim and reported in The Herald....yet more biased reporting on the front page this week! Clearly there are a LOT of legacy issues that are unresolved yet. Please do keep us informed and Dawn you're right we should all be attending the PC meetings if we want to know the truth.

Re: Time for the Parish Council to Come Clean or Resign - Mark (15th Jan 2012 - 10:57:06) Sir, This appears to be costing the local tax payer an awful lot of money. I do not want to belittle the situation, however, Liphook though a beautiful area with on the whole good people, appears to not have the same level of administrative responsibilities as EHDC or Portsmouth(both mentioned). Therefore it would be safe to assume, if anyone is being renumerated for adminsitration the work would be part time. Probably in the region of 12 to 16 hours of work for a Parish Council clerk. I would imagine for the post this would attract a salary of £10 to 12k, 15 at a stretch. If anyone is arguing about the Parish Clerk being paid this sort of money which I or most of the public would agree is reasonable. People need their heads testing.

Re: Time for the Parish Council to Come Clean or Resign - Dawn Hoskins (15th Jan 2012 - 22:07:44) I am not sure why this old thread has been resurrected, but will answer the points made none the less. Please however be aware that I am just one out of 12 Councillors and have no more weight than any other Councillor. To Andrew, there are three elements which are being looked into. Two are simply fact finding missions – looking for papers etc, the other is more sensitive and the sources of those allegation must remain anonymous. This part has involved outside service providers who have conducted some interviews. The Finance and Policy resolved to have the working party and members from the finance and policy were voted on. Apart from some papers which remain elusive, we now have a completed file. It has taken us a long time to locate anything due to the working environment within the Parish Office. I say completed – but in reality the Audit Commission are increasing concerned and are now asking for files and information going back to 2006. We have not commenced this search yet. Those Councillors doing the ‘paper hunt’ are not passing judgement. Simply creating a master file in chronological order of decisions made and actions undertaken. To Helen and Boris. Staff are not under review, but a sensitive matter has been discussed with them. It would not be appropriate for untrained Parish Councillors to conduct such things. If we had done so we would be criticised for not being independent. For that reason a Human Resources person has done this on behalf of the Parish Council. We do not have that facility ‘in-house’ so have used an outside provider. To Phelim, as discussed previously with you, I have never given any witness information into any investigation into Mr Groves behaviour. No notice was taken of any witnesses at that time [to my knowledge]. There was an investigation into the Councillor who asked Mr Groves about what parishioners were telling him, but nothing about the actual matter itself. If you know differently please let us know as we have been desperately searching for any such information for a long time. Either that or perhaps you might tell us who is feeding you strings of incorrect information all the time…… Also to Phelim, No single Councillor can make any decision which incurs cost without a resolution being passed. The Chairman is not different and is bound by the same strict rules to protect public funds. After being resolved upon, cheques are signed by two persons and one must be a Councillor. No one objects to you asking questions, but when they are ‘primed’ with untrue and inaccurate information that you have been fed, you must ask yourself who is loading you up so you can be fired off like a gun? Why would they do that? To Roy, the main point is that what you read was from the Herald who time and again get the knickers in a twist and misreport the Parish Council. It is a hobby of theirs. I you laugh at anyone – come and get the fact and then laugh at the reporter. One of whom puts her name on the article the other is ‘anonymous’ and manages to dig out accurate ‘snippets’ which are then contorted so as not to reflect reality. If only such people were brave enough to name themselves – then you would know in which direction to address your scorn. To Mark, I don’t think anyone has raised the question of salaries until your post. It would not be correct of me to tell you his salary as Liphook do not [as yet] publicise pay scales as other councils do.

Re: Time for the Parish Council to Come Clean or Resign - Mark (16th Jan 2012 - 11:55:05) Dear Sirs, I have had a further look at the posts. Someone has alluded to EHDC clearing people of wrongdoing. Can I play devil's advocate? If there are claims of corruption or wrongdoing, how do we know the proper evidence was presented to EHDC?

Re: Time for the Parish Council to Come Clean or Resign - Evans SIG (9th Apr 2012 - 19:30:00) So what was the oucome? I am keen to know, with the help of our 30 hour a week clerk (paid £39K) - our Parish managed to lose us £100K

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