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Activity tonight in Liphook - Karen F (24th Jul 2011 - 00:01:35) Just driven back from a family party and came through the village at about 11pm to be faced with hoards of young folk spilling out of Radford Park, then a load more making their way up to the village centre, then another load in the village centre and police cars everywhere. It was a bit scary... Now seen two ambulances heading up towards village (these could obviously be going anywhere though). I am guessing it is a party of some kind? Anyone any ideas what it might be?

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - liz (24th Jul 2011 - 10:59:25) We saw a lot of teens (the girls mostly wearing shorts and green hunter wellies) heading from Liphook into a field in Bramshott at the end of Church Rd at about 8.45pm. Lots of police also there.

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - Eneida (24th Jul 2011 - 12:06:41) We heard a lot of noise...shouting etc on the Headley Road in the early hours this morning...something to do with the schools breaking up perhaps??

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - Mo (24th Jul 2011 - 13:07:56) There was a field party for some teenagers who had finished school, but the police shut it down due to no one being there of the age of 18 or over and because they wernt aloud the party in the field. I mean seriously its 2011 not 1978 let them get on with it at least they are out of the way.

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - Rhys G (24th Jul 2011 - 17:25:54) There was a police helicopter from roughly 11pm onwards too.

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - Rhys G (24th Jul 2011 - 17:49:39) The following information is available on Surrey Police's website: Date: 23 July 2011 Time: 22:55 Location: Bramshott Incident: Command and Control Result: Control maintained July 2011 Helicopter Deployments - SEASU Western Base

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - Net (24th Jul 2011 - 18:55:04) This is the fourth 'party' in 3 months! Hordes of youngsters, mega noise, unsupervised bonfire, people and cars blocking entrance to Bramshott. Parents dropping their kids off - What sort of parents are you? Superb help from police who made several arrests. Well done to residents who refused to be provoked. Doubt if this will be the last .....

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - Net (24th Jul 2011 - 20:10:38) Mo - I presume you are one of the under 18 year olds. Sure I understand the attraction of a freebie party but for you and the other young party-goers - what makes you think Radford Park, Headley Road, London Road, Liphook, Bramshott Village etc are 'OUT OF THE WAY!' Let's put it down to youth and naivety but when you grow up you'll find that people actually live in the properties surrounding those sites. Adults were concerned for your safety for numerous reasons and also for the people using access roads.

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - Party guest (24th Jul 2011 - 21:24:40) the field was owned by the organiser of the partys dad, we were aloud to be there and was just a party so everyone could meet up and have fun. it was all going good because we had adults supervising us. but they got drunk and it was the responsible adults that ruined it by fighting. the police got called but it was a bit extreme how about 15 police cars were called out and a police helicopter. in the end the party got shut down and the 200 people that was invited had no choice but to wonder around liphook, either going home or staying out drinking.

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - party guest 2 (24th Jul 2011 - 21:29:02) the field was owned by a friends dad who gave us permision for the party. who cares that we were there, we were having a good time!!!!. all of you adults who are complaining are hypercritical anyway because you all proberbally did the same at our age. the police were over exagertaded by getting all of that support, why dont they find something better to do like find all of those robbers. of course this meant 200 dissapointed people were wondering around liphook still trying to enjoy themselfs. gees guys give us a break.

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - Net (24th Jul 2011 - 23:18:34) Hey guys thanks for your replies. Yes totally agree with you been there done that (some of us are probably still doing it) so enjoying a party and good time is not reserved just for youngsters. However think you deserve to know a little more about some of those adults involved so you can see where residents are coming from. Firstly you made a bit of contradiction in saying that \'responsible\' adults got drunk and started the fighting. That is NOT being responsible. The owner of the field is a property developer. This probably doesn\'t interest you but think about this - could his offer of these parties (without consideration for your safety or wellbeing) be a ruse to get back at residents who objected to his planning application? Are you mature enough to think beyond being disappointed about missing out on a party and accept that most householders don\'t want to be kept awake with loud music, cars driving back and forth late at night, litter and broken glass etc. Plus the issue of underage drinking and drugs is a valid legal reason for the police to be involved.

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - Mo (24th Jul 2011 - 23:32:16) There will be many more partys from now on and they wont stop until you all give up and go do something more important. Also i heard they are making elaborate plan's to prevent the po po turning up.

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - David (25th Jul 2011 - 00:27:47) \"What kind of parents are you?\" In answer to your question, we are the type of parents who care enough about our children to WANT to drop off and pick them up. We are also the type of parents who remember we are not all born angels and that having a little fun in life is actually not against the law (yet)! I am not a religious man but am tempted to ask the Lady who posed the question to cast the first stone. I would also like to remind her of the pressure teenagers are under and that letting off a little steam every now and then keeps things from boiling over. Please send me an invite to your next Bridge evening and maybe I can introduce you to something slightly more modern. X

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - helen (25th Jul 2011 - 01:23:31) And they say standards in schools have improved? Just because someone owns a field, does not mean it is legal to have a party there. I shudder to think where 200 people would think the nearest loos are!`

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - Net (25th Jul 2011 - 08:24:28) A lot of the partygoers said they came from Petersfield. I suggest that you parents are the kind that are only too pleased to have your offspring as far away from your homes as possible and let them create a nuisance somewhere else. You are just as irresponsible as your kids. Rock and blues are more my scene not bridge if you are trying to imply that 'bridge' means 'old'. I go to properly organised festivals and venues that don't create disturbance to local residents. Have the party in your own back yard!

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - liz (25th Jul 2011 - 08:44:23) Well said Net. There were large numbers of youngsters still causing a nuisance in the village about 3-4 in the morning, presumably because they had no means of getting home. Responsible parents? I don't think so.

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - A.R (25th Jul 2011 - 09:57:10) Can some of you remember being sixteen ?? If you think back to some of the things we got up to.To some, old age brings forgetfulness, unless some of you did lead boring lives. Teenagers have always been a bit boisterous. They are probably more clued up about life than we were at that age.Once in a while a party in a field, at least our youngsters are in our village with people they all know. Stopping it probably made things worse. My son is sixteen and I do resent these so called do gooders saying we don't care for our kids.They are not babies any more,and life has moved on, they don't sit at home watching TV with their parents.From what I can ascertain it seems the adults were the problem.

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - helen (25th Jul 2011 - 10:10:33) yet again the police are expected to clear up society's mess-I do not care what age law breakers are or where they live, ignorance of the law or being young is no defence.If there is disturbance drug taking and mess then there is a problem which other people have to deal with.

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - liz (25th Jul 2011 - 10:37:16) A.R. Superb sentiments if the parties were in a more remote place. From what I can ascertain the remnants of this so called 'party' (a few cans of beer in a muddy field - yipee!) seem to have disturbed people over a large area. This is no more than complete selfishness. What about families with very young children who were disturbed by the racket? Plenty more planned according to 'Mo' and 'elaborate' police avoidance plans afoot apparently. However, I some how doubt the police are quaking in their boots as this particular group of youngsters wouldn't be capable of organising a p*ss up in a brewery!

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - A. R (25th Jul 2011 - 10:58:02) I expect most of these youngsters were local kids , not " law breakers" as some people put it. A few beer cans, for heavens sake. The world has far more problems than a few of local youth blowing off steam. They could have been burning cars or trashing shop windows then we would have cause for worry. It saddens me that so few people have any patience with our local youth. As for noise,what about adult parties till all hours, letting of fireworks etc Lighten up they ARE teenagers. You all were ,once upon a time .

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - BDavies (25th Jul 2011 - 11:11:58) So the "responsible" adults supervising this party for children get drunk and start fighting! How feeble is that? David, for all your good parenting intentions it sounds like you need to take the issue up with the organisers as they have let you down. I hope the police send you and these fools the bill for the disruption.

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - Karen (25th Jul 2011 - 11:12:48) David, Presume you are referring to me as the lady who asked the question initially. I only asked if anyone knew what was happening, didn't say I agreed or disagreed with it. I felt slightly intimidated by the number of youths who were walking in the middle of the road with that 'don't even think I am going to get out of your way' look in their eyes. And no, I wasn't doing anything of that sort at 16, but that is how times have changed, doesn't mean you have to agree with how youngsters find their entertainment in this day and age. I am not a religious person either, but I think we should all have respect for our elders and neighbours regardless of your age. So if this party was causing a disturbance then it is right that the police came and tried to deal with it. Not sure I would allow my sons to attend a party without any clear adult supervision at 16, but that is my choice as their parent. I am sure I will have to cross that bridge when I get there in a few years time.

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - helen (25th Jul 2011 - 11:28:41) As regards the field if the exact location is known a phone call to enforcements planning at ehdc will help as no it is not legal to have such a large party in a field without planning permission, as open air venues for parties are subject to all kinds of regulations. just suppose there is an accident involving your little darlings who would you turn to? No public liability insurance?

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - liz (25th Jul 2011 - 12:00:28) When I saw them the youngsters and police were in, or heading to, the field described as "West of Westering and west of Church Rd" in a recent planning application, owned by a [the land owner]. I cannot say if this is where they ended up, but if this was the venue and the landowner was aware of it he may want to consider the risks of not having public liability insurance - both for his sake and everyone else's. I believe this should say "NORTH of Westering and west of Church Rd" A MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMITTEE TOOK PLACE AT 8.00PM IN THE HASKELL CENTRE, MIDHURST ROAD, LIPHOOK ON MONDAY 16 AUGUST 2010. 26854/009 Retention of stable/store building (amendment to previously approved scheme 26854/006) - land north of Westering & west of Church Rd, Bramshott. Cllr Newman reported that this was a retrospective application; permission had originally been sought for a large barn & separate stables, & then for a significantly smaller combined building. The latter had been granted permission & construction was now nearing completion, however the size & materials were not in accordance with the permission granted, & so the applicant had now submitted a retrospective application to retain the constructed building. The materials used were much more inkeeping with a house than a barn, with an artificial slate roof on pre-made trusses & block-built cavity walls. Cllr Newman did not consider that the Parish Council should support the application as the building was not appropriate, there was no proven need & the applicant appeared to have deliberately flouted the original permission. He considered that insufficient explanation had been given, & that which had been given was not plausible. Cllr Jordan argued that the Parish Council should ask for more justification, rather than objecting to the application. The Chairman pointed out that the Parish Council could only comment on what had been submitted. Local people had objected to the size of the building as it was a very large structure for a stable/hay barn in a field. Cllr Newman proposed objecting on the grounds of over-development as the building was too high, large & bulky & there was no proven need. A vote was taken (For: 2; Against: 1; Abstentions: 1). Decision: Object as over-development, too large/high/bulky & no proven need.

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - Bramshott Resident (25th Jul 2011 - 12:32:51) I live in one of the houses at the end of Church Road and witnessed the whole incident from our bedroom window. The start of the night passed without incident and whilst we could hear music from inside our house were not bothered by it in the slightest - let the kids have the fun. When it turned nasty however the behaviour of some of the party guests was simply appalling. There were the drunken girls screaming and the boys fighting (each other and the police) which was to be expected but then one policeman was assulted in the face. At which point we witnessed a neighbour of ours rush out of his house to help the fallen officer and bring him onto his drive, administering first aid and giving him water. The police van which had been brought was being kicked and vandalised, both from outside and the people in the van. We saw only one adult at the scene. This is the third or so party that we've witnessed in recent weeks and most times have passed without incident. I'm all for people having a good time, and even accept the noise, but what I find unacceptable is the level of violence that was demonstrated in what clearly descended into a chaotic riot.

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - partygo-er. (25th Jul 2011 - 12:55:37) "Have a party in your own back garden."? Thats exactly what we did - look what happened. Wise one.

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - liz (25th Jul 2011 - 13:07:04) Party goer Your house is nearby? Somehow I doubt it.

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - Net (25th Jul 2011 - 13:17:10) Just wanted to thank all the residents of Bramshott for being so calm and working together. What a great community we have. Also a big thank you to the police - impressive! Hope we don't have to call you out again.

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - mystery man (25th Jul 2011 - 15:40:51) okay i was a child at that party, im 16 years old and went to have a bit of fun after a hard last year filled with lots of exams, there were people there over the age of 30, but we were being told no one was responsible, this made no sense to us. we carried on the party and then all the neighbours ring up the police because of the noise and its shut down, all you had to do was tell us to move or quiet down not cancel the party, when you were this age you were all out smoking legal highs so dont act bloody innocent its pathetic, you were probably doing a lot worse than us so grow up and act your age. it was a party, get over it.

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - Party guest3 (25th Jul 2011 - 15:41:15) Just to let you all know the police did deem it legal to have the party there providing we had and adult which they agreed was responsible. This obviously was agreed or else the party would not of continued after half past 8 when they originally turned up to close the party down. The reason the party had to be finished because the adults who came were causing arguments with the dj's mother. And believe you me there will be plenty more parties there i can assure you!

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - party guest (25th Jul 2011 - 15:51:52) I honestly think that these comments are ridiculous. I don't think it makes any parent irresponsible for picking up and dropping off there children and giving them drink. because to be perfectly fair every child i know whos parents dont do that end up getting twice as bad as the people whos parents do allow it because they end up drinking whatever they can find or other peoples and end up staying at other peoples\ random peoples houses because their parents dont approve so they cant go back to there own. My mum and dad provide me with drink and i drink what they give me and they also give me lifts too and from where i want to go, and they know all about this night and think the police definitely over reacted as everything was fine before they started to turn up. This was private property which the family that own it could do what they please with it, and the people who live around it will have to grin and bare more partys because they will be happening. I truly think some of your views are hypocritical and unfair and this is coming from a 15 year old, your just being uptight and pathetic because you dont allow your children to do this so they probably end up doing what i stated above- start worrying because your quite obviously making your child\childrens lifes hell, i pitty them and you. Hope you enjoy my message i put a lot of thought into it, haha.

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - Party People! (25th Jul 2011 - 15:53:32) I bet you were all young once?, everyone is allowed to have a party once in a while..i bet you all have had partys like this before..?

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - Party Guest (25th Jul 2011 - 15:55:13) We are going to milk the fact you hate this by doing it more now i hope you realise.

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - . (25th Jul 2011 - 15:59:53) tbh the police were being irresponsible by moving us out of the field right next to the motor way bridge when they know everyone was drinking, stupid

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - Head of secret service church road bramshoot (25th Jul 2011 - 16:06:50) To all of you who don\\\'t own property in church road, and rent from the council sometimes you can have parties (legally on your own land), we are talking about a group of 16 years old and above getting together and having a good time, not causing any criminal damage or harm to any one else or any property ie: Cars, etc, we know that if you own the property you are allowed to hold such events,maybe you people who have nothing better to do than complain on this site, either you have had a really boring life or you are old, if you can\\\'t put up with a bit of noise every now and again I suggest you move into a residential home, maybe a nice one in scotland would suit you people, as for the insurance I believe that the family that own this land carry the appropiate insurance, and who is going to pay for the police etc it will be the taxpayers surely the police should be tackling real crime and not overreacting to a kids party, let the kids be....

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - NLawyer (25th Jul 2011 - 16:13:24) Oh yes because throwing 200 teenagers into the street at 11 at night is a great idea. Shutting this party down meant you left kids with nowhere to go and at risk of danger. Noise was obviously caused in the middle of liphook as there were teenagers wondering around who maybe had missed the last train home or who had genuinely nowhere to go. My daughter told me that when she arrived at the party at 8.30 there were neighbours standing outside the field making sure police were kicking people at. That is a very bitter, sad thing to do to be the one who tries to shut a party down before even 9 at night. You have very probably angered these children to have more partys just to spite those who caused them to be left on the street till the early hours of the morning.

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - Antonio (25th Jul 2011 - 16:23:26) Nobody objects to parties when they are well organised and controlled. It would however appear from responses to the original thread that those at this party deem it their right to upset and/or annoy anyone they please. They say they plan more parties. Judging from the standard of their English and spelling I feel their time would be spent with books rather than bottles

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - liz (25th Jul 2011 - 16:54:45) NLawyer They shouldn't have been there in the first place. Are you suggesting the police should just leave a bunch of 16 year olds to get drunk and violent in a field which, as you say, is close to the A3 bridge? They would have to go home sometime. They don't seem a very pleasant bunch "if you hate it then we will do it even more".

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - Diana (25th Jul 2011 - 17:07:45) Reading the posts on this web from the party goers I wonder what type of people they are. What time were the resposable parent scheduled to come and pick their drunk offspring up. No need to wander about on or near the A 3 get on the mobile and get mum or dad to come and get you. I saw this going on as I came into Bramshott on my way home. Police cars .police vans and a helicopter what a waste of public money. Perhaps [the land owner] would care to pay for it as he allowed this. Dont have any more parties here go to Weavers down I am sure the army would be more accomodating.They say pick up after your dog who picks up after the partygoers? I

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - Ben Lawrance (25th Jul 2011 - 17:31:06) At least we didn't need loads of Police at Gig in the Garden........ And it didn't get as much abuse on this site.

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - xxxx (25th Jul 2011 - 17:47:22) All the people on this news feed that has told stories of what they believed has happened you all need to be quiet, as this is how rumours and viscious lies get started! If you do not know what had happend and to be honest none of you know please do not speak. Clearly none of you were there and none of you were involved therefore there is no need for this 'gossip' to be publicy displayed on this website for everyone to see, as this is hurtful for the people's families to read and this shows that LIPHOOK is not a very nice place. There is no need for people to write names of any of the people that were involved as it is not necessary!!! What ever happend that night has all been sorted and its nice of all of you to gossip about peoples families. You all should be ashamed of yourselfs for writing these comments and it shows that you are no different to people of a young age. You all need to look within before judging others without knowing any facts!

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - helen (25th Jul 2011 - 18:53:17) in answer to the 16 year old lawyers, a field is not someones garden, it has use and permission for horses to be kept there that is all. If it was legal the police would only have shut it down if it was noisy. Perhaps education is the way forward after all.

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - mr barrett (25th Jul 2011 - 19:10:55) would it not be better to let development in the field as this would stop this happening again you might get some nice nighbours

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - net (25th Jul 2011 - 20:25:24) Well we were all waiting for that one! Let the field be developed? Just what [the land owner] wants and that's why he's having all the parties. The only people getting upset are the youngsters and their parents with questionable parenting skills. If he thinks we're getting upset he's wrong. The council are against development and the police want law abiding citizens. We've got excellent neighbours already thank you very much!

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - Michael (25th Jul 2011 - 21:14:03) mr barrett, fantastic idea but please not before the Sex Pistols reunion gig i believe the owners are planning!

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - Net (25th Jul 2011 - 21:33:34) Mr Barrett is your comment a threat that these parties will keep happening until development is allowed or have you been scared into thinking this? The Council are against development, they've given approval for equestrian use not for parties.

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - A Local (25th Jul 2011 - 22:22:30) To those who objected to the party. It is most obvious that these people are not true locals. They need to remember that the youth of this area are not catered for and have to arrange their own entertainment. We have no cinema, no Goodnight club (they had evenings for under 18s), gradually the villages have increased in size with no consideration for the teens. I think that the people complaining either need to go back to the towns that they came from or to remember that they were catered for and that its miserable people like them that stood by and allowed the local councils to expand areas without considering the young people. Live and let live you miserable lot. I hope that your kids will be satisfied with scouts and brownies at 16, or maybe turn into the geeks that you obviously are!!!

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - Party guest (25th Jul 2011 - 22:45:13) [the land owner] was against the party at the start due to the planning permission but only gave in due to the party already being arranged. Also you should know the field should very well be aloud planning because Liphook is growing due to urbanisation and therefore becoming a sub-urbanised village anyway. Its just a matter of time before the field is allowed planning because of the increasing growth of the Liphook and Bramshott area so why not let it happen now? Somewhere along the line it will become granted and then all these parties will have stopped and Liphook would have grown, which is what will happen between the next 5-10 years. I am a 16 year old who most probably knows more about the whole situation than all of you, so if i were you i would let not complaining about the planning or else the parties will continue and will eventually get bigger, louder and more frequent as the children of the owners increase in age do you really want this?

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - Concerned parent (25th Jul 2011 - 22:47:22) I hope the owner of the field is aware that there were children there under the age of 16, who had probably lied to their parents in order to get there and to be seen to be "big" in front of older children. Knowing some of the children there, I know it was not just alcohol on offer! This whole thing has been done on the cheap without proper care, thought and provision made for the youngsters. Yes, the kids do need to let their hair down, Yes, the idea basically is a good one, but please, please as a family man himself with sons and daughter, why did the owner of the field not organise the event safely with proper supervision and care for the kids so they could have a good time. Knowing the problems between the kids in Liphook and kids from Petersfield, that too only serves to give concern! If the idea is to hold these parties regularly in future in order to get planning permission, Liphook is in for a torrid time!!!

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - Net (26th Jul 2011 - 00:18:49) Whoa is this a breakthrough? It\'s not supposed to be a them and us situation. Liphook and it\'s parishes should be a community. Not everyone is a local - that doesn\'t mean they\'re not interested in our youth. We know there are few facilities for youngsters so let\'s have some brainstorming - what sort of things are you interested in? Sports, music, arts, dancing, wildlife, fashion, cinema, book clubs, chess ... surely not just parties and drinking, Don\'t just complain - put forward some ideas.

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - rtr (26th Jul 2011 - 00:42:37) I am afraid that site could be a development site in the near future you see it happened on the old king georges hospital site and i can see its a prime location with access so good hope the owner does`nt sell it on to a major developer otherwise we could all end up with a large housing estate again i would rather have the parties they do no harm.Maybe the bramshott res should club together and try and purchase it of course if they have the funds which im sure they havent as they would have done so when it was up for sale.

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - helen (26th Jul 2011 - 00:52:25) I find some of the posts illogical. There was clearly a legal reason that the parties were stopped, it was not that the police exceeded their powers. The noise carries for miles around, there is lawbreaking with drink and drugs- if they are young, so what-they are still lawbreaking, wherever their home is. It matters not whether they are local and have no entertainment laid on for them. Surely anyone with any common sense knows that if they drive their children to a field for a party it is not going to be a 50s style debutante gathering. Some young people find satisfaction in helping others, and spend the time raising money to fund voluntary work overseas, the pictures we see on the news at the moment brings it home to me how privileged we are, so should not be worrying about whether we upset teenagers by not letting them let rip and cause havoc. The only activity not open to young people of 16 is to drink legally, or drive which is only another year to wait. Not breaking the law does not make people geeks.

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - mr martin (26th Jul 2011 - 07:06:55) why dont you let the travellers use it im sure they are looking for somewhere to stay during the summer months and they have loads of horses

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - P Weyland (26th Jul 2011 - 08:23:36) So if the party organisers are 'putting in measures to stop the po po turning up' - who are you going to call when it gets out of hand? Ghostbusters? 200+ invited on the first party? This will only snowball in future events. Sounds like there was trouble from the off, this will only escalate as popularity of the parties increases. The area has been host to various illegal raves 'back in the day' But these were more professionally organised events with their own security, not a load of kids playing at adults.

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - liz (26th Jul 2011 - 08:40:50) Mr Martin The developer wouldn't like that as he wouldn't be able to move them on. More scaremongering to try to get the developer what he wants no doubt. I think using naive young people (because we can see from the posts that they are) as pawns to blackmail local people (if that is what is happening) is a disgrace.

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - Net (26th Jul 2011 - 08:47:20) Of course it has the potential to be a development site. [the land owner] IS the developer who has purchased the field as speculation. He\'s already made that very clear to residents. However Liphook has more than fulfilled the requirements for housing at present and there is a huge housing site planned opposite Station Road. At present the Council has given approval for EQUESTRIAN use (that means horses) on the field. Given that Bramshott has narrow sunken lanes and the entrance to the field is on a very tight corner any attempt to gain planning permission for houses of any sort is likely to meet with extreme oppostion. Developers don\'t put up housing to meet local needs - they put up housing to maximise their profits. There should be more affordable flats and apartments for professionals and these youngsters closer to Liphook centre so they can get to trains and buses. The Council needs to make sure that adequate infrastructure is in place before granting planning permission. If you think traffic in Liphook is bad now just wait until Bohunt Manor gets developed - it\'ll be hell!

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - Net (26th Jul 2011 - 08:51:50) Regarding allowing travellers to put their horses on the field - [the land owner] has planning permission to put his own horses on the field only, No commercial use, no accommodation and no renting out.

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - liz (26th Jul 2011 - 09:12:10) Net There is no huge housing estate planned opposite Station Road. There has been no application and certainly is no planning permission. In fact it is a larger scale version of the Bramshott issue - developers trying every means at their disposal to build more housing which Liphook cannot cope with and against the wished of local residents. It's a legal kind of bullying I suppose. Not sure what we do about it - what happened to the local plan?

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - helen (26th Jul 2011 - 09:53:36) I presume that somone was making money there either by charging admission or charging for alcohol drugs etc, so I am sure that that they are quids in by having the party finish early. In future as the police also read this site they will probably bring their camcorders to record any illegal activity, as most of these parties take place at the weekend in the summer. Were they hooked up to electricity? I presume that that the National grid is the loser if it was hooked up illegally. And I doubt very much if [the land owner] has any kind of liability insurance there no insurance company gives cover for illegally held raves!

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - xxxx (26th Jul 2011 - 09:57:34) You all talk a load of rubbish.. are any of you family to one of the persons? NO then shhh with all your talk because you all know nothing! and instead of all this gossip if your all really that bothered then why dont you ask these people what has happened or what is going on with the property instead of making your own false accusations of what is going on!! Thanks, bye.

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - liz (26th Jul 2011 - 10:57:00) xxxxx I see you are a great believer in free speech. Sorry to disappoint you but actually we do know. It is not gossip. Most is, unfortunately, fact.

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - Net (26th Jul 2011 - 11:30:51) Liz The Local Plan is alive and kicking (well waggling their toes more like) but they've not done much to advertise it as most people don't seem to know about it and if they do they don't know where to put their views. So I'm starting another talkback - Local Plan - Planning and Development in Liphook. Discussions on this site seem to have diverted from the party issue.

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - A Ryan (26th Jul 2011 - 11:55:11) I despair at the lack of understanding towards our youth. The local teenagers were meeting up with all their friends in the field, my son being one of them. He has grown up in Liphook and went to Bohunt. These same teenagers are the ones everyone passes on their way to school. Calling the police out was totally uncalled for and by dispersing them was very irresponsible. Are these neighbours local to our area or have they moved here for some sort of ideological life . The tax payer will have a massive bill to pay, I do so hope you neighbours are proud of yourselves. Did any of you realise that Milfest had a thousand people people turning up , with extremely loud music, plenty of beer and fighting which broke out, and no police called there !!! By setting off this chain of events you have frightened, upset and annoyed not just the kids,but the adults too. I do hope that the way the police responded is looked into. "MILLFEST - Saturday 23rd July 2011 5pm until 1pm in the garden. Four great live bands, hog roast, gourmet barbeque, outside bars, fire poi, garden games, face painting. Free Entry. Kids welcome till 10pm." This was a professionally organised event with public liability insurance - not to be confused or compared to an 'illegal rave' as people are suggesting the Liphook Party was.

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - Concerned (26th Jul 2011 - 12:23:43) Can you imagine being a guest at a party with 200 hyped up 16 year olds!! .....Now add their younger brothers and sisters, alcohol and recreational drugs. Any responsible adult organising such an event has a duty of care for his guests, he is also responsible for their safety. I just hope that all of the 200 invited guests got home safe, not arrested, raped, in hospital or worse.....Who checked!? Any future events will without a doubt attract unwanted gate crashers. Concerned locals should arrange a meeting chaired by the police to discuss the implications and force the owner of the land to assess the risks and provide a safe plan of action. Health and safety is no accident.

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - Liphook Lover (26th Jul 2011 - 13:06:24) to be honest you guys are all jealous and need to be quiet and get a life outside stupid gossiping!

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - liz (26th Jul 2011 - 13:08:38) 1) The partygoers were underage 2) There were no facilities or adequate supervision 3) If the police dispersed them with "nowhere for them to go" how on earth did they intend to get home? 4) I can't believe the irresponsibilty of some of the parents who have posted on here and it seems some of the other parents can't either 5) There may be limited facilities in Liphook but that doesn't stop kids flocking here by train from Petersfield, Liss and Portsmouth. Are Liphook youngsters not able to get on a train?

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - A. Ryan (26th Jul 2011 - 13:10:44) Editor, It may have been organised but it still created a huge amount of noise and some fighting. But that's okay... it was "legal ". The kids in the field were not having an " illegal rave" as you so put it. These were local kids in a private field with a 16 year old playing some music.Hardly an organised rave. Most of these are decent kids and have been branded as thugs by people who do not know them. It wasn't me calling it illegal - but I suspect it was in many aspects. The modern term for this appears to be Free party The Criminal Justice and Public Order Act empowered police to stop a rave in the open air when a hundred or more people are attending, or where two or more are making preparations for a rave. Section 65 allows any uniformed constable who believes a person is on their way to a rave within a five-mile radius to stop them and direct them away from the area; non-compliant citizens may be subject to a maximum fine not exceeding level 3 on the standard scale (£1 000). The Act was ostensibly introduced because of the noise and disruption caused by all night parties to nearby residents, and to protect the countryside. It has also been claimed[2] that it was introduced to kill a popular youth movement that was taking many drinkers out of town centres drinking taxable alcohol and into fields to take untaxed drugs.

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - George (26th Jul 2011 - 13:14:56) Lukes mum knows it, I was at that party and there was no trouble being caused, the police essentially moved the party onto the A3, wasted a lot of fuel for that helicopter which was completely unnecesary and got people riled up which incedently caused fights. I cant understand why we are prosecuted as a generation based on news reports suggesting that we all carry knives and wear our hoods up roaming the streets for people to stab, quite frankly all i can say to the people who engage in that stereotype is act your age!

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - liz (26th Jul 2011 - 13:26:37) Referring to the sex pistols party, sounds great! let us know date and time asap, can't wait!!

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - Party guest #201 (26th Jul 2011 - 13:27:44) chill out guys, ignore it and you won\'t be affected, could\'ve been a great night but the neighbors had to ruin it by hassling the police to stop the party when it was clearly legal to have on private property. The only reason it was shut down because the DJ\'s mum and the owners had a physical fight, and the DJ\'s mum is a police woman. Therefore the owners assaulted a cop, which is why so many police were aggravated, however the local\'s made the whole situation a lot worse than it could\'ve been by pressuring the police to be harsher on us teenagers. A friend of mine got pinned down and gased with bruises all over her and still coughing because of the gas for no reason. She wasn\'t intoxicated or anything like that, not causing any trouble, although the police were disgustingly brutal towards the teenagers, which I find out of order as most of us were just standing around confused as to why there were so many police there, it was a legal party.

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - Phil (26th Jul 2011 - 13:29:34) I was one of these "thugs" at the party, and I don't see why the police were called? Calling the police causes so much unneeded aggro! We weren't doing anything wrong, instead of wandering the streets and vandalizing, we organized a place to do it, reasonably safely, yes we cant account for a minority of people who chose to ruin it, but there will always be a minority, no matter the age group. The number of people I think was a bit excessive, but in this modern age, even the slightest hint of party gets spread like wild fire, because the good one's get shut down by boring old farts like some of you!

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - Net (26th Jul 2011 - 13:31:05) Hey I witnessed the activities. Don't make out it was a few kids, it was hundreds. And it wasn't a 16 year old playing some music - it was a hired DJ who seemed glad to get out of it because he wasn't expecting that behaviour in the field (and also thinks he probably won't get paid)

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - xxxx (26th Jul 2011 - 13:36:42) Im sorry LIZ but were you there? and was it your family involved? NO. therefore be quiet because you clearly do not know the full story. All of you people who live around here need to keep your noses out of other peoples businesses. Seriously, how old are all of you? 12? thought so. You all act as if you have never been clubbing or been to a party in your live, and if that is true then im sorry but your sad and cleary do not have a life. But at the end of the day what happens to that field is none of your or anybodys else problem but the owner themselves.

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - A. Ryan (26th Jul 2011 - 13:38:20) All these clever names ! A party,is a party ! These kids only a short while ago were having balloons and games at parties, they were hardly going to cause that much trouble. I could understand it, if this had been arranged by proper rave party organisers, then yes that would have been a completely different kettle of fish. That is when the drug dealers get involved. By pushing our teens out of our area they will be introduced to a greater number of problems. At least we knew where they were up until they were thrown off. I suggest that all you mums with young kids pay heed as this is what the locals will think of your children when they reach this age. Many of you are in for a wake up call when they get to this stage of there life. The age my son is now ,16, I was working full time.

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - Party2011 (26th Jul 2011 - 13:38:33) in reply to the person who suggested our teenagers get on a train, have you ever been on a train from liphook at night?, i doubt it, as you would have seen some the violence on the trains, there was NO DRUGS at this party, my daughter attended the party and i would be quite happy for her to go again at least i knew where she was and who she was with and not hanging about in the village late at night were trouble often kicks off. As for not getting on with the petersfield teens this is total rubbish.They are all friends, maybe not back in your day we are now in 2011 not 1011..leave them alone. find other thing to gossip about

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - George (26th Jul 2011 - 13:45:04) And in relation to the earlier posts complaining about property development I think that is an example of where the law has let you down, that particular debate effects me in no way but i can still entertain a balanced opinion on it, why should you not be able to empathise with us as youths? You are acting more childish than any youth at that party.

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - Jane (26th Jul 2011 - 13:59:24) This is a serious question about this incident..and maybe the partygoers themselves or a Bramshott resident who witnessed the party can answer... Why were the police called to the party in the first place? Was it noise, fighting, underage drinking, drugs...or what? I am trying to make sense of this and have read through the thread but it isn't really clear. It seems there was some fighting once the police were there but had it already started. What were the grounds for the police attending? Was it the adults at the party fighting? If, as an earlier comment suggested, it was the adults fighting then they are really to blame for this incident and the closure of the party, not the local residents or the party goers. I would just like to understand what happened!

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - Party guest (26th Jul 2011 - 14:35:16) Thankyou all the adults who have understood us. The other adults who are simply being redicules, take a chill pill! it was just a party with music where we could all come together again and have a good time. no one was braking anything or doing illeagle things so i surgest you all shut up now.

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - lucy (26th Jul 2011 - 14:43:19) in reply to Jane, it is none of your business anyway what went on at the party so don't get involved. i may be sounding rude but this is how rumours start. If you jane get told what happened-which will probably be wrong-you'll then go round telling others! there is no need for you to understand the situation as it is nothing to do with you.

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - xxxx (26th Jul 2011 - 14:43:42) Party Guest i agree with everything you say. At least there are some people who live in Liphook know that its just a party and for those who are so bothered about the party might as well just leave it as its over and done with and its already happened. So there is no point in this whole conversation anymore, everyone might as well mooove on!!

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - Party guest #201 (26th Jul 2011 - 14:50:26) Net the DJ wasn't hired, the DJ was a friend of ours who is 17. He was happy to get out of there because his mother and the owners had a physical fight. You are just making up gossip, and he wasn't getting paid, he wanted to do it for free because he wanted to have a good time as well.

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - A. Ryan (26th Jul 2011 - 14:50:27) Liz, "The party goers were under age ". How old do you have to be to go to a party ? What a ridiculous comment . As far as I am aware they are allowed a little alcohol as it was on private land. I take umbrage at your perception of our caring for our youth. I do hope other parents of these kids come out and stick up for them. So much for a caring village. My family have been around here for over a hundred years and they would turn in their graves if they could see some of the spoilt folk living here now. Most of these kids I have known through playgroup, through school, and are decent kids. Again I shall state, the poor kids were frightened to death at all the commotion. Those adults that caused all this stress by calling the police should be ashamed.

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - badman (26th Jul 2011 - 15:00:07) so what are all of you residents going to do if we have a party in the near future and make sure its legal???????

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - liz (26th Jul 2011 - 15:06:06) The health authorities are trying to reduce underage drinking because of the severe danger to health of drinking at such a young age rather than on any moral issue. What hope is there if the parents are all in favour? It is illegal, as are 'free parties' (see editor's note) and perhaps that's why the police were called. My question once again, if you don't want to travel on the late trains how did you intend to get home? Not a clue I expect!

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - Michael (26th Jul 2011 - 15:09:23) Jane, The police were called by residents for no apparent reason before 8.15pm (still day-light) . For everyone "in the know" there was no power at the event so any music being played was from a battery powered 'stereo'. liz, saw The Sex Pistol Experience at Guilfest the other week they were great, as ' Jonny Lydon' the lead singer said he thought he was playing to a "Phil Collins lookalike competition"!

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - liz (26th Jul 2011 - 15:22:40) If sixteen year olds were drinking alcohol on private land, who bought it for them?

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - x (26th Jul 2011 - 15:29:14) If there was another party which is all legal there is not a lot any of you residents can do, the party in the weekend was unfortunate that the police got called. But were allowed to have partys as its nice for friends to get to together not everyone is old enough to go clubbing or go to the pubs so let young people have fun and enjoy themsevles before they get boring like a lot of you clearly are. For a lot of people that have commented on here and are complaining are being very immature about the situation you are supposed to be adults, you must all know what its like to be young? its 2011 its not as if someone got hurt or killed it was a partyy so get over it. Parties happen and will continue to happen everywhere im sure, considering its the summer and its an excuse for friends to meet and have fun.

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - liz (26th Jul 2011 - 15:31:25) Seems I have an alter-ego. The 'sex pistols' comment wasn't me. (Although i don't entirely disagree!)

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - Partygooer (26th Jul 2011 - 15:38:45) if i was you id keep your nose out off this, yes there was a party, get over it, it gunna happen sooner or later, no drugs was at this party and btw there wasn't just underage people to, why put it all over the internet havn't you got better things to do.

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - helen (26th Jul 2011 - 15:39:55) I think the public liability insurance alone would deter anyone from having a party for 200 people, you would have to check that the police will allow it check the editors postings above? you would have to check that no other residents would be disturbed, or likely to complain, have to pay the electricity bill, be preparded to come back and clear up rubbish, and employ security against the drug dealers/ under age drinking, as it is an offence to sell alcohol to 200 under 18 year olds? .

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - on the fence (26th Jul 2011 - 15:56:53) Now I was not there and I am not a resident of Bramshott so some impartial advice to all concern might help ?? Reading the comments made from BOTH side I think you should end this topic Now. But 1st a few friendly words Everybody likes a party and a good time and we all like peace and quiet If you are arranging a party then stritcly limit the numbers attending if you are worried hire a bouncer for the door or gateway ( it means less hassle in the end) Maybe advice local residents there may be some noise but it will end at 10.30pm no later TO EVERYONE please do not over react to everything written on this web site to the party people please respect the local residents right to a quiet life ( Thats why the live out of town ) Local residents respect the younger generation right to have some fun HOPEFULLY HARMLESS We do not want too end up like a country I wont mention where people take the law into there own hands PLEASE PLEASE can we have some nicer talk back and not this distasteful way of speaking to each over ?? AS bill and ted once said PARTY ON DUDES and BE excellent to each other or something like that

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - x (26th Jul 2011 - 16:04:11) Justy to add the Djs mum was not a police officer she was simply an annoying stupid woman who basically ruined the party in the first place and the fight only happened because of her abusive comments!!

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - Bdavies (26th Jul 2011 - 16:10:48) "He was happy to get out of there because his mother and the owners had a physical fight..." Sounds like a great party kids! Who wants to do something cool and exciting when you can watch some bloke's drunken mum fighting like a Banshee. Fights, police, helicopters, being ceremoneously turfed out, lack of health and safety measures. Who says young people of today don't know how to enjoy themselves! Sure yo-all can't wait for the next one. And well done the organisers; the entertainment on this thread more than adequately makes up for the rubbish time you organised for these kids!

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - Net (26th Jul 2011 - 16:11:28) Residents wont do anything if a party is legal. What will the owner of the land do - now knowing where he stands within the law? What will the partygoers do - knowing the repercussions if they don't keep within the law? What will the police do? Keep the law!

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - Jane (26th Jul 2011 - 16:49:10) Lucy...the reason I asked the question is because there seems to be a lot of hearsay going on via this thread. I wss hoping that one of you partygoers would be mature enough to actually state the facts. Clearly you are not mature enough to state the facts so I rest my case. If you re-read my post you may see that what I was trying to do is pick out the facts from the emotion so that Liphook residents could understand what went wrong on Saturday evening. I thought perhaps it was the adults in charge at the party that actually caused the initial problem that meant the police got involved. I am actually all for teenagers having a good time, I have teenagers myself and have nothing against a few wild nights...we've all done it. I was hoping that if the facts were stated clearly and coherently by a 'mature' teenager we may all understand a little better. I live very close to the scene of the party and was disturbed by the noise on Saturday evening therefore it has everything to do with me.

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - x (26th Jul 2011 - 17:13:54) At the end of the day there will always be partys happenning somewhere so there is no need to keep going on about it! a party is a party get over it. People like to have fun unlike a lot of you by reading your comments. This whole thing is getting very ridiculous now and the conversations are getting nowhere and its becoming very pointless!

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - Editor (26th Jul 2011 - 17:41:32) The eagle eyed amongst you will spot that the name of the land owner has been removed and replaced with [the land owner] in peoples' posts. This has been done at the request of a family member. Editor "I would very much appreciate it if you delete the posts which has the name of the land owner as its not very fair is it? This is where trouble can start and this website might as well change its name to Facebook with the amount of gossip that has been displayed. What ever happenned that night has been sorted by the police so there is no need for your opinion of what the land owner needs to do as he is very aware himself. So if you will not delete the whole post itself then delete every comment which states initials or the name of the land owner as we all do not want our family name publicly displayed all over the internet. "

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - Sarah (26th Jul 2011 - 17:46:09) George and Phil Can I commend you on your well written thoughts on the matter. I was beginning to despair over the way other young party-goers had expressed themselves - aggressive and completely lacking in basic English. I'm not commenting on what happened since I don't know, but I was impressed by the way you wrote in more of discursive adult manner than some of your peers. Apologies if that sounds patronising, I don't mean it to be, but it was a breath of fresh air after the 'party-goer' brigade.

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - concerned (26th Jul 2011 - 18:08:04) If the badman wants to do this legally, here are just a few pitfalls: what is the ratio of adults to children? Are all the adults CRB checked? Are all licences etc obtained from the council? Public liability insurance? Health & safety? Police aware of the timings etc? The list goes on and on ... I organised a party in a field a few years ago for nearly 200 people. It was nowhere near houses, roads, other animals and could not be heard or seen unless you arrived by car! We had live bands, hog roast, fireworks and not one complaint, so it can be done. I think this field is too close to houses and the A3, and I know for a fact there are various types of livestock close by who would have been affected by the noise!! I assume the owner of the field did not have his own horses in there at the time, as this obviously presents more problems and maybe a visit from the RSPCA. It all gets out of hand when the adults, whose primary concern should have been the safety and enjoyment for the children in their care could not control their own feelings and acted in a far less mature way than their guests! They are unable to be entrusted with the care of other people's children which is why the party was stopped. However, the children should not have been allowed to leave that field with nowhere to go and the police as well as the organisers had a resposibility to ensure that all were safe, which apparently they were not, as they were just left to roam the streets of Liphook. Lets hope everyone has learned a valuable lesson from this debacle - the children need somewhere safe to party, they need sufficient adult supervision and help (both in numbers and responsibility), plus the organisers need to be aware of the noise levels for both animals and familieis that live close by. As a parent of teenagers I can see the need to provide somewhere safe for them to let their hair down, but maybe this field is not the place because of its location and lack of adult supervision!

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - on the fence! (26th Jul 2011 - 18:30:17) for your information,......no resdience of bramshott called the police,..it was the dj...that called the police..........fact

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - A parent (26th Jul 2011 - 19:03:42) My son was at the party. The DJs mother, who if the blogging is correct is a police woman attacked one of the female adults by ripping off her necklace. This caused the woman to retaliate. therefore blame should be placed firmly on the the DJs mothers shoulders, i assume that she then called the police for back up. Stop blaming everyone, This was an irrisponsible off duty officer who was obviously out of control, who also deemed it to be ok for her son to be DJ at the party in the first place. I don't believe planning comes into this. It was a young person who identified a place and an opportinity for a party. For goodness sake you MOANERS STOP it was just a party in a field. Let the youth live a little, in no time at all they will be adults with jobs and families of their own. I hope that they won't be kill joys like you are.

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - lucy (26th Jul 2011 - 19:33:06) Jane..oh ok jumping to conclusions saying im not 'mature' enough? I think you'll find you are very wrong there as i do not want gossip going around Liphook about this poor family as it is no one's business to know. Yes i read what you had said and if you re-read what i wrote i said that i dont agree with you or Liphook residents for that matter needing to understand the situation as you don't need to be involved. And just because you live close by doesn't mean it is your business as i live near to where the party was held but i don't care what happened and neither should anyone else.

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - George (26th Jul 2011 - 20:45:59) Basically, you get what you give, if the adults of our village can learn to accept that we are a different generation and the way that we celebrate is just a bit messier these days, then you will see a quicker decline in bad behaviour, pick your moments! and also i think that a lot of the comments from 'adults' on here are disgraceful, a better understanding of the generation gap is needed i think, if i am able to understand your point of view at 17 and you cant take into account my point of view thirty or so years down the line then i think you need a rain check.

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - George (26th Jul 2011 - 20:56:37) Also it was not an 'illegal rave', it was not even a rave, it was a year 11 party.

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - Karen (26th Jul 2011 - 21:05:18) I am with 'concerned' and 'on the fence', parties and events need to be organised with the safety of those attending as the top priority. I am currently studying to become an event and party planner, so I have the facts here in front of me. Let's not even go into the lack of toilets, water, necessary paperwork etc.... To all of those who attended this 'party', we are not all old farts, I can party with the rest and best of them (just ask my friends), but when the safety of those attending becomes an issue then the organisation, or lack of it, is a problem. Parties are good, enjoying yourself is good but annoying the local residents and putting yourself in danger is NOT good. I care about the local people and the youth of the village and that is why I feel strongly that if you want to have a super duper party, it needs to be planned so that it is safe, fun and that there is adequate adult supervision.That way we can all be happy and the young people that attend can not only enjoy themselves, but most importantly can be kept safe.

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - Oliver May (26th Jul 2011 - 21:21:10) Everyone commenting on this thread doesn't know as much as me. I know the reason why the police turned up both times. I also know that nothing that was going on was bad enough to have the party shut down apart from some crazy adults trying to attack another adult because she asked nicely for the driver of a car to turn his music down, which he did, and the crazy drunk adults then followed her because she told him to, until she got back to her son who was the DJ and aware that everything was going horribly wrong but was still prepared to give everyone a good time by playing tunes for completely free. The crazy adults then had a go at the DJ's mum who was completely innocent and then tried to hit her and the DJ got in the way to stop them whilst people around her were calling the police to come and sort things out. The crazy adults wouldn't leave her alone and were shouting threats and abuse to her. For all of you who have this "all kids are troublemakers" attitude, you need to wake up and realize that you are completely wrong! The party ended because of adults who were irresponsible. Every single teenager there was perfectly fine. Don't listen to what anybody else has said in this forum because most of it is completely wrong and opinionated. There are also no laws stating 16/17 year olds can't drink on private land.

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - Neil Starte (26th Jul 2011 - 21:23:46) why don't you all just lighten up, teenagers do stupid things... it's kind of what those years in between childhood and adulthood are for. okay so a few residents are generally less than happy to have a load of noise going on nearby (down to poor planning no doubt or "a mistake" if you will) but were you all so different when you were that age, maybe you didn't act out in the same way and maybe (down to the generation difference) the current scenario is a little different but I'm sure you annoyed a few grown ups in your time, why should you strip that right from this generation? just because you're not the ones having fun? lets face it there's always going to be tension between generations (especially with the media these days) but just try and understand we're all just trying to find our way in this world and teens sometimes get the worst of it so try and sympathise and let them blow off some steam cheers Neil

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - Oliver May (26th Jul 2011 - 21:25:25) And the DJ's mum didn't rip off this crazy lady's necklace and wasn't out of order. So the previous comment above from another person is wrong and they are an idiot who has no idea what happened. Read my other post to find out the truth.

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - Teen spirited (26th Jul 2011 - 21:41:48) At the end of the day it was a party held by teenagers for teenagers. Mistakes have perhaps been made, I assume lessons learnt, however there is no Good Knight Club any more, no Spaniard any more not really a lot left for them. Some of you adults need to think back, were you never an enthusiastic teen wanting to party? Why not be a little more charitable in thought, let them have fun, help them organise it then you could at least have some control. I have been brought to this page Via Facebook and it is highly amusing that Liphook has earnt itself publicity there of all places!!! I have (being local myself) been able to identify quiet a few people on here and perhaps a \"gentle reminder\" - you were young once and perhaps you need the remember????? I think the saying is people in glass houses should not throw stones!!! If you want safe fun for the teens provide it...The Liphook Kids are in the greater scheme not a bad bunch compared with other areas and YES I can pass this opinion I work in Education. And for those who disagree there are some very nice residential communities being built just up the road from you where you may find the age group slightly more appealing. Or there again....perhaps still too young!!

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - Party Witness (26th Jul 2011 - 23:03:34) The party was ruined because of ignorant drunk adults trying to attack the DJ's mum because they didn't want the music to be turned down and that the DJ stopped them from hurting his mum and had to go because the police told them it wasn't safe. The ladies necklace was ripped off because of someone trying to stop the DJ's mum being attacked and she instantly blamed it on the DJ's mum. The comments above blaming the DJ or his mum are invalid and the people commenting are ignorant people who have no idea what happened. The DJ's mum works for the police and was aware of the laws the drunk adults were breaking. People around were aware the drunk people were getting out of hand and attacking an innocent woman who had done literally nothing wrong, so they called the police.

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - Doreen Lawrence (26th Jul 2011 - 23:38:45) NIMBYS Let the kids have some fun for gods sake. And yes I live in Liphook, 2 daughters, one 21 who went to a field party (friends field nearby when she was 16/17 - picked her up at 3am a little worse for wear, a few problems with gatecrashers but she learned from it, nobody died, and a good time was had by all. I'm getting on a bit now but unlike some of these posters it seems , I actually remember being young. My 15 year old daughter is no doubt about to cause me as much concern but you can't lock them up til they come of age for heavens sake. Try and remember being young some of you antis.

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - liz (27th Jul 2011 - 08:32:07) It amazes me that a number of people on this thread do not get the point. 200 or so teenagers getting drunk in a field, many with no means of getting home, are putting themselves at huge risk and are bound to be a magnet for trouble even if they do not start it themselves. It's no point mentioning that there should be concerns for local residents as that seems to account for nothing. For the record I do not live in Bramshott but happened to be driving past when it all kicked off. It bothers me that someone who works in education, judging by his/her comments, is more concerned about looking cool in front of the kids than their safety.

Re: Activity tonight in Liphook - A. Ryan (27th Jul 2011 - 09:13:28) Liz,This is the problem, people just keep posting remarks which are totally uncalled for. The teens have just left school and were meeting up in the field. It is a large field, and yes the road has houses down. It is not a hugely built up area though, and is far enough away from the village to cause less disturbance, but still close enough for the kids to get home. There would not have been a huge amount of alcohol, as has been stated, as this was not some organised rave as some people seem to want to believe. This number of 200, was someone out there counting ?. We have the live gig coming up at the Anchor soon. I can hear that at the other end of Liphook. I expect many people do not like the noise from there. We do have to,as a society, put up with a few things that we may not like, it's called, getting on with each other.Again I will reiterate, our local youth on the whole are great kids, and are our future, lets not forget. And on that positive note I'm going to close this thread to any new posts. Don't forget to order your "I love Liphook" mugs !

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