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Job at Fusions Foods - Jc (3rd Feb 2021 - 12:56:13) Fusions Foods is a snack bar manufacturer based in Liphook, providing some of the most innovative snack bars on the market. We are looking for production operatives that have a positive attitude, are efficient, flexible and able to do manual work. Knowledge of working in the food industry will be an advantage but experience is not necessary, as training (and PPE) will be provided. Work is conducted in a safe food environment, following legal and food safe processes.  Monday to Friday 8am-5pm Part Time (zero hours contract) opportunities available immediately. Preference will be given to locals. Rate: £9/h Contact us by email: hello@fusionsfoods.co.ukÂ

Re: Job at Fusions Foods - James (3rd Feb 2021 - 14:11:52) That pay is appaling. Working 9 hours a day £9hr is £81 a day, £405 a week and only £1620 a month. The average rent for a flat in Hampshire is £965pcm, food shopping approximately £62 a week which is £248, the average energy cost is £93.83 a month, an average phone bill is £27 a month per person, for a family (1 adult, 1 secondary school student) this will be £54 a month, the average broadband cost is £27.39 and a TV license for £13.13 This leaves you with £218.65p leftover for the month which is about £54 for other necessities such as clothes, books, prescriptions etc.

Re: Job at Fusions Foods - Donald (3rd Feb 2021 - 14:26:59) Zero hours contracts = EVIL and immoral

Re: Job at Fusions Foods - k (3rd Feb 2021 - 14:44:24) At least they are offering jobs in these times - yes pay not ideal but they are employing people.I don't earn much either but I'd rather work & contribute to the economy.

Re: Job at Fusions Foods - A (3rd Feb 2021 - 14:48:08) Why are people so surprised about the pay & zero hour contracts? It is common place amongst supermarkets too! So perhaps next time you're rude to retail staff remember they owe you nothing really apart from perhaps the middle finger!

Re: Job at Fusions Foods - James (3rd Feb 2021 - 15:14:20) A, a majority of supermarkets are not zero-hour! And they also have better pay, Sainsburys 9.20 an hour with set hours.

Re: Job at Fusions Foods - Old codger (3rd Feb 2021 - 15:56:42) How times have changed. Remember being self employed no work no pay good old days. Piece work, work all day and all night for a few shillings. But we made it wouldn’t change a thing mend and make do family motto . If you couldn’t afford it you went without no problem. Happy days.

Re: Job at Fusions Foods - ! (3rd Feb 2021 - 16:06:11) James, I work for Sainsburys and yes we do get 9.20per hour and we have a set contract of hours per day/week but I have never seen the amount your calculations came up with on my wageslip, even before tax! Saying that I am grateful to have a job and good health in this time of constant worry, for many others.

Re: Job at Fusions Foods - James (3rd Feb 2021 - 17:08:35) hi !, My calculations may be off, I will be sure to check them later today. My calculations did not take into account tax, national insurance or pension etc.

Re: Job at Fusions Foods - A (3rd Feb 2021 - 18:26:50) I used to work for a supermarket and trust me they certainly did/do have zero hour contracts! They expect the government to pick up the rest via working tax credits ie your taxes!

Re: Job at Fusions Foods - A (3rd Feb 2021 - 18:29:57) James, to add to my previous response colleagues.coop.co.uk/guide-to-zero-hours-contracts" target=new>

Re: Job at Fusions Foods - E (3rd Feb 2021 - 20:27:44) James is not always right....basic wage for a Sainsburys employee is £9.30 an hour.

Re: Job at Fusions Foods - Jeff (3rd Feb 2021 - 20:51:21) Average energy bill of what?! I live in a 4 bed house and ours is only 60 a month.....? If it costs that much to heat a 1 bed flat then you should try shutting the window. My mobile phone bill is £8....! Not sure you should be expecting an ‘average’ of everything on a minimum wage income?? Now if you earned an ‘average’ income of almost 30k a year then maybe! That is, unless you want to start waving the red flags from the rooftops!

Re: Job at Fusions Foods - Ian (3rd Feb 2021 - 21:59:08) E!!!! What are you saying? James is ALWAYS right! There is absolutely no topic that he does not know everything about, He is never wrong!

Re: Job at Fusions Foods - James (3rd Feb 2021 - 23:46:01) E, I am not wrong, they are getting £9.30 from March, it's not March its February there pay is CURRENTLY £9.20

Re: Job at Fusions Foods - D the key (4th Feb 2021 - 07:22:13) I don't think James understands how averages work. If you have two people, one on two million pounds a year and one on nothing, then they are both on an average income of one million pounds. Even though the second person earns absolutely nothing, his average of the two is still one million pounds. The wage offered here is similar to the income I've lived on all my life. If it's not enough, you work evenings as well. If that's still not enough then you do weekends too. I've paid a mortgage on that sort of wage as well.

Re: Job at Fusions Foods - (4th Feb 2021 - 08:18:19) James Sorry to disappoint but you are WRONG !! As a member of staff at Sainsbury’s. We do get £9.30 per hour. So I suggest you get your facts right before you insist you are correct.

Re: Job at Fusions Foods - E (4th Feb 2021 - 09:16:28) James, You are wrong. I've worked for Sainsburys for 8 years and used to work in payroll before that, so I do know how to read my payslip. You have some life skills to learn still, one of them being admitting when you are wrong. Have a good day!

Re: Job at Fusions Foods - James (4th Feb 2021 - 10:17:10) My bad, the article I looked at was from 2020 not 2021, however I am not sure why E decided to bring this up as it is still better pay than what Fusion Foods are offering. Fusion foods should be looking after there employees not mistreating them with low pay, long hours (that are apparently part time?) and a zero-hour contract.

Re: Job at Fusions Foods - Charlie (4th Feb 2021 - 13:41:52) James, Would you be kind enough to help out some of us older members of the community not quite so familiar with the Americanisms, that are creeping in to our language? When you say "my bad", does that translate to "Sorry I made a mistake, and I apologise to those whom I insisted were wrong, when in fact I was wrong"?

Re: Job at Fusions Foods - Jules (4th Feb 2021 - 13:54:34) Firstly, a job is a job, but there is a huge difference between being a freelance and someone on zero hours. And temping is somewhere in the middle. The government should act to ban zero hours contracts because if you take two jobs but cannot attend one because you are working at the other job you have no protection from future discrimination.

Re: Job at Fusions Foods - JH (4th Feb 2021 - 14:49:24) Someone is offering employment. If you don't like the pay or conditions, don't apply. Simple.

Re: Job at Fusions Foods - er (4th Feb 2021 - 16:33:52) Just my offbeat tuppenceworth on zero hours, nothing personal, nothing about the OP as I have no knowledge, no axe to grind, a job offer is better than no job offer and an employer is better than no employer especially here in Liphook. Same with Sainsburys etc you makes your choices, you cut your cloth according to your means and take whatever work you can get (like we did blah blah blah)! Nationally though it is controversial, like marmite, love it or hate it depending on your taste (employers love it, trade unions hate it), intended initially for 'seasonal work' now it's moving into every sector. As I understand zero hours (not from any exerience just hearsay), you are not guaranteed any sick pay, no holiday pay no job security, no redundancy pay, no notice period, no minimum hours, not exactly employed, not self employed, just sort of hired, correct me if I'm wrong, as I say, just hearsay, a backward step in employment practice in a country sliding rapidly backwards.... Business leaders love it. Students love it. Retirees love it. New arrivals apreciate it. I know, it's work, just not quite as we knew it in the good times. Not really a career, not for those with good qualifications, but if you didn't listen at school and instead sat in the back throwing rubbers at me.... You enjoy your zero hours, you are worth it :) !!! (only kidding folks, nobody threw rubbers at me, it was more like bricks in my school) As ever, it's all in the contract, if you have what they need you can demand a contract that suits you, your agent can write in your own clauses on holidays, hours, notice, bonuses, or you can go self employed or 'agency' at a big premium, if not you get the contract that suits them if you even bother to read or understand it! Lesson over, now now, keep it down in the back there and file out quietly, I said quietly...oh dear!!

Re: Job at Fusions Foods - MR (4th Feb 2021 - 17:33:50) From the government website... Everyone employed on a zero hours contract is entitled to statutory employment rights. There are no exceptions. A person will benefit from the employment rights associated with their employment status and individuals on a zero hours contract will either have the employment status of a ’worker’ or an ‘employee’. Any individual on a zero hours contract who is a ‘worker’ will be entitled to at least the National Minimum Wage, paid annual leave, rest breaks and protection from discrimination.

Re: Job at Fusions Foods - M (4th Feb 2021 - 17:50:05) WOW..... can't believe some of the comments on here about a job advert. Fusion Foods are offering employment opportunities, have been up front with what the job entails and the contract that comes with it and some people just want to rubbish them. If you don't like the job, and what it offers, then don't apply...... if you do then go get it!

Re: Job at Fusions Foods - D the key (4th Feb 2021 - 18:07:56) Hello Fusions Foods, I am not familiar with your company. When you say you manufacture "snack bars" do you mean muesli bars or mobile food outlets? (trailer mounted burger vans, etc.) Thankyou.

Re: Job at Fusions Foods - er (4th Feb 2021 - 19:35:52) Thank you MR for responding exactly as requested to correct my limited understanding of 'zero hours'. Having these protections makes the prospect of zero hours much less fearful than the media try to make us think (no I don't read the Daily Wail!). It seems then that I may change my opinion and see it as something more akin to temping which I used to do for a while, it's swings and roundabouts, you miss out on many of the securities of a permanent employment but at least you are working and getting money and experience whilst remaining a bit more of a free spirit!

Re: Job at Fusions Foods - D the key (4th Feb 2021 - 19:42:32) It's a shame. Given this negative response are any future employers going to invest in Liphook? The immediate attack launched on Fusion Foods is not painting our town in a very good light. Sad day for Liphook

Re: Job at Fusions Foods - Simon Coyte (4th Feb 2021 - 19:52:18) D the key you obviously spend a lot of time on your computer, have you tried Google for information about Fusion Foods ? They have a very nice web site and some very tasty looking products. They have used Talkback to advertise their vacancies and all it seems to do is start is stupid comments deriding their pay. If you don't want a job or the rate of pay so be it! There are people out there that are looking for employment and will be glad of something to see them through these difficult times. Simon

Re: Job at Fusions Foods - er (4th Feb 2021 - 20:30:36) D the key (great name by the way, like how you got there!), I've just looked up the OP and the wonders of google it popped straight up, it appears they manufacture snack bars, as in those healthy muesli type bars you eat for lunch if you can manage to lay off the BLT sandwich, something our other halves are always encouraging us to do! Hence work experience in the food industry not the welding industry :) By the way it appears to be a fairly newish company and I'm sure we all wish the owner well, the more business coming to Liphook the better and the less of a dormitory town it will be!

Re: Job at Fusions Foods - Joe (4th Feb 2021 - 21:28:44) A savoury sandwich is far healthier than a muesli snack bar full of sugar. look at the sugar content before you buy your next " healthy" snack bar.

Re: Job at Fusions Foods - D the key (4th Feb 2021 - 22:13:10) Thanks, er. It seemed to allude to health foods and I thought it may be the one in the corner of Bleach's Yard estate (if it's still there). Thanks, Simon, it was a genuine query. You've not lost the customer service skills I see.

Re: Job at Fusions Foods - Ade (5th Feb 2021 - 09:08:47) What a bunch of Liphook moaners……. JC is offering work; times are very hard at the moment. JC I hope you find someone, If I was you I would look outside of Liphook. The last thing you want is some Arthur Scargill working for you.

Re: Job at Fusions Foods - Unbelievable (5th Feb 2021 - 11:03:54) Anyone running a business can only pay wages that will keep the business running its a very fine line. It’s a case of work or no work high wages no business. You only have to look at history failed business because unions demanding high wages regardless of whether the business could afford it. I’m afraid union’s are very out dated they cause more problems than good. If someone has the guts to run a business then they have the right to dictate the wage structure.

Re: Job at Fusions Foods - James (5th Feb 2021 - 12:12:49) unbelievable, Businesses should care for there employees. How can someone live with £9 an hour on a zero hour contract, they can't. If businesses cared for there employees they would be no need for unions. Unions have more positives than negatives.

Re: Job at Fusions Foods - Ian (5th Feb 2021 - 12:59:56) Bad employers, Bad unions, two of the many problems facing our disfunctional, broken country. Greedy management and employers are rampant in today’s world but likewise narrow minded, outdated left wing dominated unions are also contributing to the problems the average working men and women face in the employment world. Another factor is the snowflake generation with their overinflated sense of entitlement who are just fuelling the problem of Bad employers and Bad unions

Re: Job at Fusions Foods - D the key (5th Feb 2021 - 13:05:30) James, as I've already indicated, I live on LESS than £9 per hour. I've also paid a mortgage on that. How much do you think YOU should be paid?

Re: Job at Fusions Foods - Pete (5th Feb 2021 - 13:09:50) All this union bashing just goes to show what a cosy little life a lot of people lead here in liphook with no grasp of the reality of life for millions of poorer people in this country and billions of people around the world. In this country the richest 10% of the population (ono)own 45% of the wealth whilst the poorest 50% hold less than 10%. We have been conditioned over time to accept this disparity (or ignore it because I'm alright Jack) and now we are being told to accept crap wages with no job security. Well looked after staff are far more productive therefore making companies more profitable. I must be a bit of an enigma around these parts as I own a business but also believe that unions are a necessary institution in this selfish world.

Re: Job at Fusions Foods - D the key (7th Feb 2021 - 22:28:47) Pete, how can the British trade unions claim to care about low pay when most (all?) union bosses are on over £100,000 a year? As a former T&G member I don't think they justify that wage. Unions exist for one reason and that is to fund the Labour Party. How much property do you think the unions own? Have a look, you'll be surprised.

Re: Job at Fusions Foods - Re (8th Feb 2021 - 12:42:51) Unions cause most of the problems in this country. All the disputes stem from the unions unrealistic demands. Spending all your contributions on a 70 million hotel for the bosses to have their jollies if you belong to a union you must be mad.

Re: Job at Fusions Foods - passfield resident (8th Feb 2021 - 16:58:45) Re-could you be more specific? What problems have unions caused?

Re: Job at Fusions Foods - ST (8th Feb 2021 - 17:37:26) Oh goodie! A conversation about racing to the bottom!

Re: Job at Fusions Foods - Re (8th Feb 2021 - 17:47:59) As said ridiculous demands. Just about all negotiations are quite ridiculous with their demands ie railways as prime example.They demolished our car industry. I could go on and on but it would take all night. Everybody has their own options so I take my leave. Have a nice day.

Re: Job at Fusions Foods - passfield resident (8th Feb 2021 - 18:49:59) Re-you are not making any arguments here. In fact, it sounds like you can't be bothered to argue your case.

Re: Job at Fusions Foods - James (8th Feb 2021 - 18:59:57) re, Please can you give examples. I can think of a few: Vaccinate teachers - REASONABLE Vaccinate police officers - REASONABLE

Re: Job at Fusions Foods - Ian (8th Feb 2021 - 20:06:00) Arthur Scargill, Len McClusky!!!!! The list is endless! End of debate

Re: Job at Fusions Foods - Re (9th Feb 2021 - 11:00:44) I don’t argue just facts . Teachers unions today totally out of order. Demands that are only there to try and bring down the government revealing in keeping children out of school. One teacher tearing up his union card. It’s not the teachers it’s the unions. Time to curb the unions they should not have any say in how the country is run . The public vote in a party not a union. Most strikes are only to try and bring down a government nothing to do with workers conditions. We need to put them back in their box.

Re: Job at Fusions Foods - James (9th Feb 2021 - 11:44:17) Re, You do know people join unions right? From there own free will. If the government and businesses actually cared about workers rights there will be no need for unions. Teachers are still teaching. Have you been in an education facility during this pandemic? If so, you will know there is no social distancing, limited use of masks and much more. That is why teachers called for schools to only be open to a few groups. And again Re please can you provide examples.

Re: Job at Fusions Foods - susan (9th Feb 2021 - 11:46:52) An initial ad from a company offering work has now developed into talks about Unions, Vaccinations, Railways, Teachers! I suppose it’s given Fusion Foods lots of publicity so hopefully they have filled their vacancy!!!! Hilarious!!!!!

Re: Job at Fusions Foods - passfield resident (9th Feb 2021 - 13:11:24) Ian-your post is absolutely meaningless-do you call that an argument? (and you don't get to decide when a debate ends) Re-you need a history lesson. We moved forward from Victorian exploitation of working people because people (including unions) fought for worker's rights. You probably have similar views about the suffragettes.

Re: Job at Fusions Foods - Ian (9th Feb 2021 - 14:23:14) I think the last election clearly highlighted the UK's attitude to antiquated Unions. Given that a political retard such as Johnson still managed to win the election by a massive majority was a huge message by the public that a political party in the pocket of power mad Union bosses was unacceptable. Personally I think that out of control greedy corporate business and arrogant management does need to be counterbalanced by worker representation but antiquated unions such as the TUC, etc, which are now a fifth column political outfit only represent the hard left.

Re: Job at Fusions Foods - Re (9th Feb 2021 - 15:28:39) Passfield Resident I don’t need a history lesson from you. I started work at 15 in the fifties and I have seen the damage unions have done through out time. Car industry, ship building, to name just two. Unions are good in their place but not interfering with government. Through out time unions want to bring down conservative governments and then manipulated labour governments . You only have to look at the railway dispute about the guards went on for years totally unnecessary just because the unions were being pig headed and wanted to rule the roost.Anyway everyone has their opinion I have lived through it all and survived without a union. But my brother didn’t he had an early death caused by union pressure in his factory another story.

Re: Job at Fusions Foods - James (9th Feb 2021 - 17:24:36) Re, It is clear you need a history lesson from someone. Without unions, workers would not have the rights they have now. For example, Unions fought to increase annual leave Forced employers to abide by contracts Tackled discrimination (Women's rights & pay etc) Helped to introduce the minimum wage And also gave us the weekend, people use to have to work on Saturdays. So, in conclusion, unions do a lot. They did a lot 50 years ago, and they do a lot now.

Re: Job at Fusions Foods - Helen (9th Feb 2021 - 18:49:21) James if you watched the film Made in Dagenham it was the women going on strike at the Ford Factory which gained them publicity and a meeting with Barbara Castle, which led to the equal pay act. This was not gained until 1975.The unions did not have much to do with it.

Re: Job at Fusions Foods - Ian (9th Feb 2021 - 19:30:17) Where would we be without the infinite knowledge and expertise of James? An expert of everything, gosh we’re lucky

Re: Job at Fusions Foods - James (9th Feb 2021 - 20:23:35) Hi Helen, women and girls raised these issues long before the 1970's it actually started in 1888 where over 200 girls and women went on strike to protest the exploitative working conditions at the Bryant & May match factory. However, the trigger for the Equal Pay Act was you are correct at the Ford Factory, 850 female sewing machinists went on strike because they were paid less than their male colleagues. Two years later they met with Labour Employment Minister Barbara Castle, who had backed the bill. The definition of a union is: "a society or association formed by people with a common interest or purpose." I would say that those 850 female employees had shared a common interest. So I would argue it was a union, not a traditional union, but a union for women. Ian, say something that adds to the argument or don't say anything at all.

Re: Job at Fusions Foods - D the key (9th Feb 2021 - 20:28:50) What an utterly disgraceful way to address one of our valued senior citizens. At the start of this thread James is condemning the £9 per hour offered by Fusion Foods as "appalling". Now he is applauding the T.U.C. for a minimum wage of less! Given how the minimum wage was introduced under a Labour government I think they could have done better than £5.10 an hour when it came in. James seems to be unaware that many jobs involve weekend working. If I remember correctly the unions agreed to shop workers working Sundays when Sunday trading came in twenty or so years ago.

Re: Job at Fusions Foods - N (9th Feb 2021 - 20:29:17) The threads on this site should be renamed books 🤣

Re: Job at Fusions Foods - Ian (9th Feb 2021 - 21:12:23) Ha ha, James had obviously just looked up Made in Dagenham on Wikipedia!!!

Re: Job at Fusions Foods - Helen (9th Feb 2021 - 22:30:30) James I did not need to look it up as I have a degree in history, but pointing out how women have struggled for equal rights and equal pay does nothing to indicate that the unions achieved any of this. You will be telling me what the suffragette movement was next.

Re: Job at Fusions Foods - D the key (10th Feb 2021 - 07:20:56) I am old enough to remember the events the Dagenham film is based on. The unions turned a blind eye to women's low pay for DECADES. James does not understand that what to him is history is recent events to some of us. But I know he's going to know better.

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