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Covid cases rising in East Hants - John (29th Aug 2020  17:00:32) East Hampshire Weekly cases = 14 Prevalence = 11.60 per 100,000, last week the prevalence was just 7. It’s nothing to panic about but the UK is putting other countries on the quarantine list once prevalence hits 20, and its putting local areas in the UK into local lockdown once it hits 50. There are many areas of the UK with a prevalence of less than 10, East Hants is no longer one of them. Again it’s not panic, just info, keep this under control

Re: Covid cases rising in East Hants - James (29th Aug 2020  19:05:14) John, I don't see the purpose in posting this. Surely this only going to incite fear even if it wasn't your purpose.

Re: Covid cases rising in East Hants - Doc holiday (29th Aug 2020  22:16:49) east hants population 120k If using app from zoe we are still one of the lowest compared to the rest of the uk Please enough people.stressed out already

Re: Covid cases rising in East Hants - John (29th Aug 2020  22:46:10) James, Am posting facts so whatever purpose you think I have is irrelevant as the information is factual, not made up, not political and not BS. The majority of local authorities in the UK are in a lower than 10 per 100000 state, east Hampshire has recently changed and moved up to a plus 10 state, its important to be aware that whilst things aren't bad here, they have taken a turn to that direction in the last week. This isn't fear, its not panic and I have no motive. Its just facts Its in the early stages of picking up in east Hampshire, its entirely possible it will drop off but its also possible it will increase. As such I think the facts are fairly important to the locals, more important that your attempt to dismiss those facts. russss.github.io/covidtracker/map.html Climb back into your tiny hole James :) come back out when your dealing in facts and truths.

Re: Covid cases rising in East Hants - David (29th Aug 2020  23:27:20) Classic case of the irrational attempting to portray the rational as irrational, this posts origin John? Is just presenting what clearly seems as most of the country is doing very well yet some a minority are creeping up. Pretty clear if you ask me, it’s creeping up locally so maybe yeah tighten our belts etc,

Re: Covid cases rising in East Hants - Anon (30th Aug 2020  07:09:23) Forewarned is forearmed

Re: Covid cases rising in East Hants - Don't Panic (30th Aug 2020  17:31:14) John I don't dispute the facts you have given. The amount of cases in E Hants has gone up and indeed it has gone up over the whole country, this was expected as lockdown was eased, pubs opened and people meeting and the shops have relaxed the rules. However we have to remember the number of affected people is still very low, and due to increased testing we are identifying more people with mild symptoms that will not need any specialized treatment. We need to be careful with these posts the fear of the virus is far worse than the virus itself. I know that people have died and those who have suffered have my sympathy to lose anyone you care or love is tough. But to put it in perspective int the last 6 months around 42,000 have died after a positive test, of course it doesn't mean they died of Covid as most of the fatalities came from the elderly and those suffering from other conditions. In that same 6 months we would expect around 310-320,000 people to die.

Re: Covid cases rising in East Hants - James (30th Aug 2020  19:57:51) John, You need to take a chill pill buddy. I didn't say you were giving out misinformation, which is something you and everyone else shouldn't do. What I am saying here is that you posting these figures can cause alarm, when alarm is caused it can cause panic. If we look at the figures for Liphook directly from the arcgis app, the amount of reported cases from the 20th to 26th August is 0-2. So that means at MOST there is 2 positive people in Liphook. Hopefully there isn't and Liphook is Covid free. The link for the arcgis app is here: arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=47574f7a6e454dc6a42c5f6912ed7076

Re: Covid cases rising in East Hants - davidW (30th Aug 2020  20:41:05) Don't Panic, Statistics can be used to prove anything - including debunking your argument. Covid-19 deaths first occurred in England and Wales in early March 2020 and increased sharply thereafter, causing a surge in total deaths. There were about 58,000 excess total deaths between early March and 7 August 2020 compared with the 2015–19 average for the same period kingsfund.org.uk/publications/deaths-covid-19 Please stop spreading the myth that covid is just a common cold.

Re: Covid cases rising in East Hants - John (30th Aug 2020  22:34:58) Let me attempt to break this down for you. A. Cases are low = People are aware and responding to the facts, they are measuring their approach inline to the data. B. Cases are high = People are unaware and not responding to the facts and are taking very little approach to the data. Whilst am in total agreement the fact that the cases are very low locally at this moment, what am actually saying is they are low BECAUSE people are responding appropriately to facts and data. Some of you seem convinced on victory "we shouldn't care its fine" are just saying the cases are low so we have nothing to worry about.... it is that idea is what leads to situation B. You CANNOT say its low thus we have nothing to worry about and behave like there is nothing to be concerned about when actually its the concern that delivered the low cases and the lack of concern that delivers the high cases! There is ZERO panic or scaremongering in my statements, all it is is local data and a local note to tighten the belts. This thing is currently under decent control, so being aware of the local rates is utterly beneficial, its not scaremongering or panic its a sensible use of facts. I appreciate some of you are bored of it, badly wallet affected by it but rolling in here with a "lets get on with it" attitude will only deliver back a lock down.

Re: Covid cases rising in East Hants - D (31st Aug 2020  08:43:21) I'm sure John's only intention is to do his bit to retard the spread of this awful disease as I'm sure we all want to.

Re: Covid cases rising in East Hants - James (31st Aug 2020  12:29:36) D, I have asked you in other threads to not use the word: 'retard' due to its derogatory meaning. I have noticed that the only person using the word at recent is you. It makes me wonder if you are missing getting in arguments with me. Which is fine, I miss them too. Stop using the word. If you don't want young people playing loud music at midnight at the Green give something back and become a 'respectful and responsible' adult you want to be.

Re: Covid cases rising in East Hants - Ian (31st Aug 2020  12:46:59) @ James. Verb “retard” = to hold back, stop development of. Stop being so precious!

Re: Covid cases rising in East Hants - James (31st Aug 2020  13:09:23) Ian, The verb definition is to not stop development of. Hold back yes, stop no. Get you're facts right for of all. I'm not being 'precious', the word is derogatory and should not be used. Something I find older people struggle with. Perhaps, I should make a leaflet on why it shouldn't be used.

Re: Covid cases rising in East Hants - Don't Panic (31st Aug 2020  14:27:32) David w I'm not trying to say that Covid 19 is a common cold. Although the cold is a corona virus as is the flu. What i am saying is it's not as dangerous as people seem to be making out. In the middle ages we had the bubonic plague which was serious and wiped out around 50% of the world population. This COVID19 in this country has a fatality rate of less than 1% and most of those who catch it don't realize they have it. It's fine to be careful social distancing and masks etc, but we need to get some sense and proportion about this situation.

Re: Covid cases rising in East Hants - D (31st Aug 2020  17:14:37) James, to quote yourself, "you need to take a chill pill, Buddy". However, as a seventeen year old boy at school you are still legally a child. Therefore it would be wholly inappropriate of me to correspond with you further.

Re: Covid cases rising in East Hants - Ian (31st Aug 2020  18:02:17) @ James, sorry to burst your intellectual bubble but do a quick google search and you will see that the definition of the verb retard includes “impede the development of”. I know from previous posts you find it impossible to show humility or humbleness so I will leave it at this for others to judge you. By the way you may wish to look up “arrogant little know all“ perhaps this is more appropriate than “precious”

Re: Covid cases rising in East Hants - Jane (31st Aug 2020  18:23:56) Its always the people that tell others to stop panicking that are really the ones doing the panicking, why is that? Cant some legit information be posted on this site for once that others wont lose their minds over? Also is James the new moniker of Adrian Yellow Banana? certainly got the same troll style that needs to be fed with attention.

Re: Covid cases rising in East Hants - James (31st Aug 2020  19:21:52) D, Cool. Just don't use derogatory language then there will be no correspondence. Ian, Cambridge dictionary: "to make something slower" Collins dictionary: "If something retards a process, or the development of something, it makes it happen more slowly" Please provide a source for your definition of retard. I would also disagree with the idea of being arrogant too. Hello Jane, Don't think we have talked. No, I am not Yellow Banana Adrian, not sure as to why you are comparing me to him, as I am not a troll nor do I need to be fed with attention. If people were polite, and didn't use derogatory language (that bit is aimed at D) I probably wouldn't even post on this site. Have a good evening.

Re: Covid cases rising in East Hants - rolli (1st Sep 2020  10:43:41) So James, just to be clear, D's use of the word "retard" was not incorrect in the context of this post. Just because you are offended does not mean you are right young man.

Re: Covid cases rising in East Hants - James (1st Sep 2020  13:41:18) Rolli, I didn't say D's use of the word was incorrect. However, the word can be seen as derogatory. Nor did I say I was offended.

Re: Covid cases rising in East Hants - rolli (1st Sep 2020  14:26:45) James, I think you are just splitting hairs now, I also think others are right when they say you are just attention seeking. Looking at your posts in general you appear to be a bit of a smart alec, getting off on winding "oldies" up and provoking reactions, hence you just go on and on and on. No doubt you are having a bit of laugh but I think the joke is on you as you are coming across in a less that positive way. No doubt you will come back with something, but its altogether a bit dull and predictable now.

Re: Covid cases rising in East Hants - k (2nd Sep 2020  11:59:15) Sorry to see your genuine care & consideration for the people of Liphook has been hi jacked - lets face it - sadly most people seem not to care - i hope they don;'t live to regret it - I too keep an eye on the cases recorded -Surrey was even worse last week -

Re: Covid cases rising in East Hants - John (4th Sep 2020  00:09:39) The prevalence has only gone up in the last week for east Hampshire, its still small but in the wrong direction. Its only September so I can see how this one will play out, you can thank all the brave sociopaths not wearing masks or properly etc whom think its fake or caused by the media when Christmas is worse than March and we are all locked up again. France did a better job than us and they are already feeling a worse 2nd bump than the 1st. All the best to you "its nothing mate" folks, if 20 people died in Liphook from drinking dodgy milk you would be up in arms but this is "just the media mate"... If we hadn't locked, up wore masks and washed our hands it would be 100 so far... Happy Christmas... another 20 > 200 on the way :(

Re: Covid cases rising in East Hants - rolli (4th Sep 2020  10:42:02) Another point of view; numbers of deaths and hospitalizations still falling, more young (resilient) people getting infected and significantly more people being tested so more people being identified as having Covid. Goes without saying if you test more you will identify more. Be careful, be wary, be safe and follow the guidelines but control the fear, this is not as bad as some will have you believe

Re: Covid cases rising in East Hants - James (4th Sep 2020  16:51:03) John, Where did you get you're numbers from? Or is this you're opinion?

Re: Covid cases rising in East Hants - John (4th Sep 2020  18:50:14) Publisher Data Source Date Public Health England Coronavirus (COVID-19) in the UK 2020-09-04 viewed on https://russss.github.io/covidtracker/map.html

Re: Covid cases rising in East Hants - John (4th Sep 2020  18:51:33) The good news is the rate fell today to under 9 :) so I take back what I said its improved alot locally in the last stats

Re: Covid cases rising in East Hants - passfield resident (4th Sep 2020  20:42:01) John-you're spot on-as soon as people stop taking sensible precautions the rate of infections goes up wherever you are in the world. Being careful will save a few lives and keep the virus at bay until a vaccine comes along.

Re: Covid cases rising in East Hants - John (4th Sep 2020  22:45:47) I think I have said it already a few times, that nothing am saying is any reason to panic nor intended to cause it, Rolli makes a great point that the ratio of infected to death is now very very low. All am presenting is the local east Hampshire rates for those that don't know them to get an idea on what is actually occurring nearby. And yes its minimal but don't forget the strong link that exists between low cases and proper protective behavior. No one dies from Covid if they don't contract Covid, if part of behaving correctly is influenced from decent local data we will be OK. If someone misses that local data and thinks everything is fine now when its actually not then we will return to the situation in March/April etc. Maybe then if the rate are so high the medical professionals wont be able to hold that ratio of low deaths to infections as well.. we will see what winter looks like, but countries like France and Spain are already hitting bigger numbers than the first time. I understand there is a small minority that either wants to bury their heads in the sand and or have been affected in the wallet more so than the graveside and they want to believe the BS conspiracy etc. And yes the media are milking it etc but it does not make it a lie, they just sensationalize the facts with Covid. Just wash your hands, that was never a bad thing was it? and just wear the masks properly, its hardly terrible is it? Nature might not have created us to wear a mask but it didn't insist you wore shoes either ! Its just common sense and in effect a half time team talk locally to understand the nearby data and respond accordingly... that's all Be safe

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