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Passfield Business Centre, amended Plans - Nic (11th May 2020 - 14:19:57) planningpublicaccess.easthants.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?keyVal=_EHANT_DCAPR_243549&activeTab=summary Spoken to EHDC as issue with adding comments. Email planningdev@easthants.gov.uk with ref 21479/015 instead.

Re: Passfield Business Centre, amended Plans - Dawn Hoskins (11th May 2020 - 20:52:53) It's like suffering a death by a thousand cuts! Another application and yet again most residents are totally unaware of it! It would have been nice, at least, to have heard the verdict of the previous application which expired a year ago!

Re: Passfield Business Centre, amended Plans - dave (12th May 2020 - 12:16:42) The delay was caused by need to assess the effect of the development on the local nightjar population, Unfortunately that survey showed that the nightjar population on Passfield common had died out, the most likely cause being dogs let off the lead, which causes the nightjars to leave their nest exposing the eggs to crow predation. The development is now likely to be accepted now that Natural England have had to mute their objection. I would ask all dog walkers to follow the country code (and the law) by keeping dogs on the lead in SSSI sites and Special Protection Areas before we lose further sites to development.

Re: Passfield Business Centre, amended Plans - Ann (15th May 2020 - 17:41:22) Nightjars were seen at the bottom of Lynchborough Road last year - photo taken to prove it

Re: Passfield Business Centre, amended Plans - Bill Mouland (15th May 2020 - 19:58:47) When you read the documents - especially the RSPB one - you will see that the nightjar survey was fatally flawed because the applicant's experts had gone home by the time these birds can be seen. There is indeed photographic evidence that the birds are there. I have a copy. So it would be premature to say that the development will probably now go ahead. Far from it. I remain implacably opposed and have asked EHDC's case officer to put the application out of its misery and refuse it.

Re: Passfield Business Centre, amended Plans - Jen (16th May 2020 - 02:30:19) Ann, I think the bottom of Lynchborough Road is not Passfield Common though, I think that's Conford Moor. I expect the survey would have been carried out on Passfield Common.

Re: Passfield Business Centre, amended Plans - Dawn Hoskins (16th May 2020 - 10:30:37) I spoke with the warden of the enclosed common (Chris Webb) and he said that the developers were going to be spending loads of money to try to dispute the flora and fauna. He specifically asked me to walk as dusk and send him any photos/ videos/ sound recordings of the Night Jars. If you do have any evidence, please send to him and the other nature related consultees

Re: Passfield Business Centre, amended Plans - A (16th May 2020 - 12:34:33) Is this the same Warden who specifically told you that its ok to allow Dog's off leads. Thanks to those who don't use their common sense, the Nightjar has more than likely abandoned the Common along with other ground nesting birds because people haven't followed the Countryside code . Developer 1, residents 0.

Re: Passfield Business Centre, amended Plans - Ann Jackson (16th May 2020 - 17:18:17) Jen, The pair of Nightjars were in the garden of a property bang next to the Business Centre .

Re: Passfield Business Centre, amended Plans - Ann Jackson (19th May 2020 - 12:12:34) Residents of Passfield - You may or may not be aware (letters have not been sent out to all residents who will be affected) that the Passfield Business Centre has put in yet another planning application this time for 40 new homes. Given the lack of transport in this small hamlet and that children are living with their parents much longer because they are unable to afford a foot on the property ladder it does not take a genius to work out the potential number of extra cars that will be moving into the area. This will not just affect those living in the immediate vicinity of the Business Centre, it will affect the whole of Passfield. Liphook already at a standstill am and pm will be even worse. Doctors surgeries and schools already under pressure will be even more so. This is just one aspect of the effect it will have on our lives should the application be passed, Please can you find the time to object to it. Thank you.

Re: Passfield Business Centre, amended Plans - dave (19th May 2020 - 13:54:42) Ann, Unfortunately all the arguments you make count for nothing. They were all made, considered and deemed irrelevant at the previous planning application. The ONLY reason that that application was rejected was because it is in a Special Protection Area for the nightjar. Sadly the last remaining pair on Passfield Common are no more thanks, most likely, to irresponsible dog walkers not following the law and country code and letting their dogs off the lead during ground nesting bird season. Hopefully the last pair on Conford moor will return this year and I would ask all dog walkers to help protect them by keeping their dogs on the lead during the season A, It is extremely unlikely that the NT warden would actually have encouraged people to break the law and harm the wildlife that they are paid to protect.

Re: Passfield Business Centre, amended Plans - D (19th May 2020 - 16:26:53) People of Passfield, the country is in the unfortunate position of not having enough houses for the population. Recent years has seen a massive house building programme in this area. Look how many have gone up in Bordon, Alton, and Liphook to name but a few. The past forty years has seen a colossal amount of new houses go up in Liphook. When I was at junior school it was surrounded by green fields with cows in them, not now. In that time we have seen enormous estates such as Manor Fields, the Depot built on, King George's Hospital, the estate next to the Church Centre, and more recently the new ones at the bottom of Longmoor Road. It doesn't end there, landowners on Devil's Lane have formed a consortium and drawn up a proposal to build another six hundred houses there. No-one can say Liphook hasn't had it's fair share. Unfortunately, building land is at a premium in Liphook because a lot of it (half, maybe? I'm sure if I'm wrong I will be promptly corrected) falls under the protection of the South Downs National Park. Therefore it is necessary to seek land in rural areas such as Passfield. We must all share the burden of new housing without improvements to infrastructure and roads. I urge the people of Passfield to support this proposal. Thankyou.

Re: Passfield Business Centre, amended Plans - nicola (19th May 2020 - 16:30:44) Only 1 comment from the public since the new planning application went live . All well and good moaning on here & complaining amongst yourselves and the neighbours , why aren't you submitting your thoughts ? Deadline fast approaching!

Re: Passfield Business Centre, amended Plans - dawn (20th May 2020 - 12:02:48) @dave has the previous application been rejected? where have you found this - please can you put a link up

Re: Passfield Business Centre, amended Plans - JOE (20th May 2020 - 14:11:12) Dawn it is an amendment to the current application not which has not been decided yet.

Re: Passfield Business Centre, amended Plans - Ann (20th May 2020 - 14:38:39) I have just been informed Nightjars back next to the Business Centre.

Re: Passfield Business Centre, amended Plans - dave (20th May 2020 - 16:33:47) @Dawn, The initial application was opposed by Natural England, RSPB and NT because of the adverse effect it might have on protected species. The developers were told to go away and address that concern, as that was the only valid reason that the council could legitimately reject the proposal. This the developers have now done, hence the amended application. @Ann - The council requires official evidence from RSPB and Natural England and a new survey. Unfortunately the timing is not great with so many people being furloughed. @D - The point of Special Protection Areas (SPAs) is that they should be specially protected. There are plenty of places where housing could be built in and around Passfield and Liphook that are not in the SPA and so would not kill off endangered species for future generations to enjoy. Once they are gone then they are gone.

Re: Passfield Business Centre, amended Plans - Dawn Hoskins (20th Jul 2020 - 18:39:00) I attended [virtually] the Parish Council debating this application and am VERY CONCERNED that the entire application has been omitted from the minutes. During the Committee Meeting which the planning application was discussed, it was objected to, and I, therefore, assume that this was the official decision taken by the Parish Council. However, the fact that they have omitted it from the minutes is a big worry! Firstly, how on this earth can the minutes of a meeting be voted on as accurate if they've missed out an entire [and controversial] planning decision? Secondly, how are members of the public local to the application supposed to find out which councillors have voted for and against if it is not published? At this point, I don't even know what the Parish Council has decided. It is not transparent and smells very fishy to me. I'll be emailing the clerk to find out what has happened to transparency and challenge the accuracy of the meeting minutes. If you want to do the same, the email address is: council@bramshottandliphook-pc.gov.uk

Re: Passfield Business Centre, amended Plans - Hooper (20th Jul 2020 - 20:05:39) Not sure whether all concerned local residents have seen this application for change of use, dated 20 June. planningpublicaccess.easthants.gov.uk/online-applications/... The reference is 21479/017 It looks much worse than anything else cooked up to date. Deadline is tight and grounds for comment restricted. Hooper

Re: Passfield Business Centre, amended Plans - Christine (20th Jul 2020 - 20:29:19) @Dawn, I dont know if you are aware but there is 3 new applications on this site which have been kept a little quiet!!! No planning notices and very limited consultations. 21479/016 | Application to determine if prior approval is required for a proposed: demolition of buildings | Passfield Business Centre, Lynchborough Road, Passfield, Liphook, GU30 7SB...CONSULTATION ENDED!!!! 21479/017 | Notification for Prior Approval for a Proposed Change of Use of a building from Office Use (Class B1(a) to a Dwellinghouse (Class C3) | Passfield Business Centre, Lynchborough Road, Passfield, Liphook, GU30 7SB ......CONSULTATION ENDS 23/07/2020 21479/018 | Prior approval for a change of use from Light Industrial (B1c) to dwellinghouses (C3) | Passfield Business Centre, Lynchborough Road, Passfield, Liphook, GU30 7SB,,,,,,,CONSULTATION ENDS 30/07/2020 Good Luck......I for one will be objecting

Re: Passfield Business Centre, amended Plans - Dawn Hoskins (20th Jul 2020 - 21:35:23) Hi yes I'm aware and if you look on the EHDC portal you will see our letter of objection on there. Unfortunately, when I looked last there were only about 6 objections though, People get letter writing fatigue I think! The latest plan is being discussed tonight at the planning meeting but I missed the 1 o'clock deadline to register as a Zoom participant. The last meeting discussion was deliberately omitted and I have sent an email into the parish council about that, hopefully they will at least include this one in the minutes.

Re: Passfield Business Centre, amended Plans - Christine (21st Jul 2020 - 10:30:39) Dawn, I think people are not writing in as they do not know about it.......no planning notices on site! Hopefully people will get commenting soon.....ours is on its way.

Re: Passfield Business Centre, amended Plans - Dawn Hoskins (21st Jul 2020 - 11:14:34) I would like to offer my apologies to the Parish Council Planning Committee. The reason I couldn't see the Passfield Application decision is because I was looking at the wrong date in June. My fault entirely. Please accept my apologies - I didn't think 2 meetings would be held in the same month so clicked on June thinking it would be there. Also, after emailing the clerk she got back to me immediately. So thanks for that. Sorry for the confusion. bramshottandliphook-pc.gov.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/Planning-Minutes-2020.06.01.pdf

Re: Passfield Business Centre, amended Plans - Hooper (22nd Jul 2020 - 08:57:52) Interesting piece in today's Times (p.23) about the change in the planning rules five years ago that made these free and easy change of use applications possible.

Re: Passfield Business Centre, amended Plans - Dawn Hoskins (26th Jul 2020 - 16:13:58) Yes, Hooper - they've made it very easy to turn business units into residential. When my husband and I went on a trip to Bedford we stayed in quite a luxury apartment - the whole block has been transformed from an empty office block into private apartments - it can be done very nicely. The place we stayed in was roomy with loads of storage and a lovely kitchen - unfortunately, the plans for the Passfield Business Centre are [yet agian] trying to cram as many studios into the tiniest space. They seriously do not give a shit about the poor people who may end up inside them - don't even give them a working kitchen! They really are a diabolical example of city-style super-high-density living. Absolutely awful. The Parish Council have strongly objected - as they have done with every other application for the site. However, EHDC doesn't have to abide by the Parish Council - so we will have to wait and see. I think there are currently about 6 applications all of which are 'undecided'. It is seriously 'fishy' when this much time passes and EHDC don't publish their decision. Whether its a consent or an objection - we just want to know!

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