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Mr. Arbuthnot - Eneida Nelson (4th May 2005 - 10:02:05) What a charming, sensible and well-thought out letter we all received from James this morning!! I cann't wait to go and cast my vore for him tomorrow. Do you all agree with me ;-)

Re: Mr. Arbuthnot - Eneida (4th May 2005 - 10:28:53) I'll even cast my 'vote' for him;-)

Re: Mr. Arbuthnot - S (4th May 2005 - 10:41:22) Most certainly do and lets hope the rest of the country vote Conservative too and rid of Blair and his Tax hiking idiots.

Re: Mr. Arbuthnot - Alex Cameron (4th May 2005 - 11:55:23) Steve/Eneida - you're too intelligent to vote Tory. Vote lid-dem - the crap about it being a 'protest' or 'wasted' vote is utter rubbish. I believe i mentioned what it was before, as we know it in the IT industry as FUD ('fear, uncertainty and doubt'). if you have an RSS newsreader, you can monitor Mr Arbuthnot's contributions to Hansard n real-time with this feed URL: http://www.theyworkforyou.com/rss/mp/10013.rdf For those of you wondering, the last 10 questions have been about Trade & Industry, and of course, Chinook helicopters. Apparently another little known fact is that no-one here voted for the man, as his constituency was merged with ours to make North-East Hants...

Re: Mr. Arbuthnot - Helen (4th May 2005 - 13:08:39) Alex re: FUD ('fear, uncertainty and doubt'). Don't you mean that voting Lib-Dem would mean: TTT('tax,tax,tax')?? I'm with Eneida - and I wish the Labour guy (couldn't be bothered to see who he was) had saved the money it cost to produce his CD which went straight in my bin! Helen

Re: Mr. Arbuthnot - Alex Cameron (4th May 2005 - 14:35:57) Well Helen, at least they've been honest about it - they're not perfect by any means, but honest is a start. I can't believe the old 'tax cuts' routine still actually pulls voters in! Its 2005!

Re: Mr. Arbuthnot - Eneida Nelson (4th May 2005 - 14:53:38) Alex I'm voting Conservative BECAUSE I'm much too intelligent not to. I've spent a lot of money and effort getting this vote and I'm certainly not going to waste it on the Lab-Dims!! And leave S alone! He's a splendid fellow, I don't know why I ever thought he was 'stange' ;-)

Re: Mr. Arbuthnot - tracey H (4th May 2005 - 15:35:16) Anyone who was thinking of supporting our labour candidate (Kevin McGrath by the way) should read this week's edition of the Estates Gazette. The EG has followed him on his campaign trail including his interview with Delta FM (which they describe as 'local, local radio' and quote him as saying that if he is elected, he would be the first elected MP to ask for a recount ! Why the Estates Gazette's interest? Because Kevin is a chartered surveyor. I wonder if his kids go to state schools ....

Re: Mr. Arbuthnot - Alex Cameron (4th May 2005 - 16:43:33) Both of you are splendid fellows :) I still can't believe it..Would you *seriously* want these people in? Granted, the situation is slightly more favourable than Blair, but the undead in No 10? I wonder if it would be the same if Gordon Brown was gunning to be PM? This whole 1980s cliche thing about a vote for anyone else other than Margaret Thatcher being a 'wasted vote' really irks me - in fact, people actually believing it is what is annoying. Not only because of my own beliefs on the matter, just that people refuse to question what is shouted at them by the people of westminister village and their TV. What;s worse is the clim that there is such thing as a 'wasted' or 'protest' vote - its entirely legitimate to use your vote to protest and we have enough problems with apathy as it is without absurd talk about votes being 'wasted'. But i'm willing to look at the other side - please do explain to me how exactly we will benefit from having the Tories in again? School discipline is a promise, and as everyone knows there is a world of difference between promise and actually getting results in the field.

Re: Mr. Arbuthnot - S (4th May 2005 - 17:10:13) The conservatives promised to rid the IT sector of the horrid tax law which Labour call IR35. Not imediately but eventually or make it fairer. Labour WILL increase tax, Lib Dems want to increase tax and the Tories are looking to cut it. My vote is with the tories. Tax is Tax is Tax whatever way you look at it we pay more than enough already.

Re: Mr. Arbuthnot - Alex Cameron (4th May 2005 - 18:00:14) Well a simple question will suffice for me - if there is such a huge 'black hole' in the chancellor's books as the Tories claim, then surely they themselves will also have to raise tax? Have you looked at the quangos they want to axe to allegedly save all this expenditure? Half of them are dissolved and/or non-existent! In the end, you're only voting for an empty election pledge, and only that - sad isn't it?

Re: Mr. Arbuthnot - Dick (4th May 2005 - 19:00:50) Let me think about this, Who is Mr Arbuthnot ? If he walked past any of you in the street, would you recognise him ? Has he ever been to Liphook. ? Does he even know where Liphook is ? I would say that 99 percent of the villagers have never seen him and yet 99 percent of the villagers will vote for him. WHY? So he sent out a letter. What has happened to canvassing, where is the soap box. This is such a safe Tory seat that he does not have to do a thing and that goes for helping the residents of Liphook. I can assure you, he will not get my vote.

Re: Mr. Arbuthnot - Helen (4th May 2005 - 19:18:37) Alex - just because we 're not voting 'your way' doesn't mean that we're mindless people who just believe what the politicians tell us. I will not vote for someone who is trying to scrap the selective schools option from parents yet sends his own kids to a selective school of his choice - that is utterly deplorable and half his cabinet are guilty of it. At least Michael Howard stands up and says his son goes to Eton and he's proud of that. Where has our national pride gone? why am I verbally abused at 7.30 at night, why does my son share a maths book at school? Why hasn't Mr Blair sorted the voting out for the soldiers in Iraq as he personally promised on radio 2 recently - why are we frightened to go into hospital for fear of getting even more ill? The list is endless for reasons not to vote Labour. As for Mr Kennedy - he couldn't even remember what his tax policies were!! How can he lead us? He'll be on paternity leave/flexible working soon taxing us who perhaps earn more than average just to keep us back down to average. Bring back Maggie I say! lol Helen ;)

Re: Mr. Arbuthnot - Alex Cameron (4th May 2005 - 20:04:06) Well said Dick. I bet most of the voters in this constituency don't even know him either and just tick the one that says "Conservative". If you've had a look through the miserable booklet they call a manifesto (free in WHSmiths), its patently absurd. In fact, i'll wager that most people have little idea of what they propose and teh viability of how they actually intend to deliver it. Helen - i didn't mean to suggest that voting should only relfect my views, and if it came across that way i apologise. I won't be voting labour either for a whole host of reasons (a big one being IR35, which is a nefarious innovation-killing sack of filth) and i do feel for McGrath as he's going to get his ass firmly kicked. So your argument goes like this - Labour have messed things up, the Lib Dems don't seem coherent enough and Maggie was great? :D) So what about abstention, the Green Party, Respect or UKIP? Where's the debate here? How can you identify with someone who sends his kid to Eton? Sounds like a case of whinging and keeping a voting routine to me...

Re: Mr. Arbuthnot - Newbie (4th May 2005 - 21:17:27) I have seen Mr Arbuthnot - he did knock on my door, however I am unable to vote in this election as the nice people at Petersfield lost my electoral roll form, duely filled in and returned, having moved here in September!!! So definitely two wasted votes from our household!

Re: Mr. Arbuthnot - Dick (4th May 2005 - 22:28:13) OK Newbie, so he knocked on your door, but did you recognise him or was it a case of him introducing himself and then you thinking "OH so you Arbuthnot are you". On Radio 2 recently Howard answered a question on his past stint in government with "Every Government makes a mistake sometimes" and then followed up by pasting Blair over Iraq. Maybe just maybe, Blair made a mistake.............

Re: Mr. Arbuthnot - Finchie (4th May 2005 - 23:13:14) .....just a teeny weeny mistake then.

Re: Mr. Arbuthnot - Mike Grimes (5th May 2005 - 00:24:44) By this time tomorrow less than 25% of the country will have voted Labour and Blair will have got in with a thumping majority... That's democracy!

Re: Mr. Arbuthnot - Eneida Nelson (5th May 2005 - 07:16:36) Dick, quite a lot of people in Liphook saw James because he came to Finchie's SWT meeting. I don't know if the other two fellows did, Mr. Cardew and the Labour man, whose name I cann't remember. James also likes Liphook.co and talked to us on it, which I thought was great!! Helen you're a woman after my own heart :) If only we could clone Maggie!!

Re: Mr. Arbuthnot - Alex Cameron (5th May 2005 - 11:09:10) Well that goes to show what a cheap date the voters are in Liphook - show uo once in 5 years, look at a website and pop in for a cup of tea and a sit down at a few houses - our vote is yours! We take the telegraph you kinow :) Load up the Chelsea tractor, bring back hanging, throw out johnny foreigner, crusade to the holy land, Englishman's home is his castle, Princess Diana isn't dead, raise the union jack, cane our kids, use the royal plural and play the national anthem! etc etc ad nauseam RA!

Re: Mr. Arbuthnot - S (5th May 2005 - 11:13:43) Mike, I don't know what opinion polls your looking at but there will be no thumping majority. The predictions are that they will win by the lowest majority in recent history. Then next time round they will be gone. You should stop reading that awful newspaper "The Scum" (HJC 96 YNWA)

Re: Mr. Arbuthnot - Helen (5th May 2005 - 13:00:58) Alex - why does this only apply to conservative voters? at least our man came round - never saw the Lab one, he sent his cd (how naff) and the lib one never came round either - oh I did see a nice man touting for UKIP but as soon as I said "when Maggie was in charge...." he ran. Yes the conservative voters will come out to vote, perhaps having a little cup of tea on the way - unlike the apathetic Labour (oh where's my Sun and fags...) and Lib dem voters (oh shall I vote or not I'm so undecided..gibber gibber..) who will stay and home and use the excuse that something is on the telly that they need to watch.... I guess we'll all know tomorrow whether it'll be trudge on as before or be excited about a new begining... Gloves are off.....come on Eneida say something to slap 'im down....(lol) ;) Helen

Re: Mr. Arbuthnot - Eneida (5th May 2005 - 14:14:59) I'm not going to slap him down Helen because actually I'm quite fond of the little s**t ;-) I think he's just going through a phase, give him a few years and he'll come round to our way of thinking!! I like your spirit Helen!! you should join our Book Club.

Re: Mr. Arbuthnot - Alex Cameron (5th May 2005 - 16:33:59) That is possibly one of the most amuisng things i've read in a very long time - crazy action book club :) Now now ladies, please. I can almost hear 1980s Phil Collins playing in the background as you type. Its like, as a certain senior Tory put it some time ago, being "savaged by a wet lettuce". A phase? pah! I may have made the impression that i only dislike the blues - but i actually dislike them all. Just the lib dems the least. I'll urinate all over myself in public before i vote for UKIP, although i really liked their amusing pledge to do everything they could to destroy the EU after being elected as MEPs. :) I've done the deed and thrown my lot in with the liberal fantasticrats even though Ladbrokes has them 150-1 - my bit to keep the evil long-fanged one from turning the sky black and swallowing the people into some freakish national nightmare. I wonder what Blair had to let Murdoch have for the Sun's show of support? Presumably we'll see a News Corp-owned Channel 5 in 2 years? I can't wait to put myself up for this - i'll be the most ring-wing psychotic candidate the Lib Dems have ever seen :D)

Re: Mr. Arbuthnot - mammal (17th May 2005 - 18:02:12) Ar but, no but, yes but, no but.....

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