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Bramshott & Liphook Neighbourhood Development Plan - ‘Call for Sites’
- NDP Administrator (24th Sep 2019 13:31:59)
East Hampshire District Council, in consultation with the South Downs National Park Authority, has recently completed its screening determination for the Bramshott & Liphook Neighbourhood Development Plan (B&L NDP), confirming that the B&L NDP will need to undertake a Strategic Environmental Assessment (SEA) and a Habitats Regulations Assessment (HRA).
As part of the SEA process, the B&L NDP needs to carry out its own formal ‘Call for Sites’ for land and property within the whole Parish, in particular with a focus on property that has not been previously issued to EHDC and SDNPA during their Call for Sites.
This information will inform future work on the Neighbourhood Development Plan and will assist with identifying where new development could be located.
If you wish to suggest a potential site/property and feel that it may make a positive contribution to the overall future development of the parish of Bramshott & Liphook, please visit our website to download the Pro Forma, or obtain a hard copy from the Parish Council Haskell Centre on Midhurst Road, Liphook, and return within the 4 weeks consultation period by:
10th October 2019.
Email: admin@bramshottandliphookndp.uk
Post: NDP Administrator, NDP Office, The LMC Office, 2 Ontario Way, Liphook, GU30 7LD
BLNDP webpage : www.bramshottandliphookndp.uk
Facebook : @BramshottandLiphookNDP
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Re: Bramshott & Liphook Neighbourhood Development Plan - ‘Call for Sites’
- D (24th Sep 2019 20:32:16)
Bohunt Manor, perfectly positioned and great access. The land between Longmoor Road and the old A3 is perfect for development.
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Re: Bramshott & Liphook Neighbourhood Development Plan - ‘Call for Sites’
- Michael (24th Sep 2019 20:54:33)
Bohunt manor. The other proposed site for the 600 houses simply does not fit in with the village of Liphook. Bohunt manor would provide good access to main roads for all the extra people and develop that side of the village. I do smell a rat as to why its never for proper consideration but then as they say, 'money talks'.
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Re: Bramshott & Liphook Neighbourhood Development Plan - ‘Call for Sites’
- oldie (24th Sep 2019 21:20:10)
I think they're asking for new sites ie not just the ones already in the pipeline or rejected, they already know about them!
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Re: Bramshott & Liphook Neighbourhood Development Plan - ‘Call for Sites’
- D (24th Sep 2019 21:28:25)
If I owned land in that part of Liphook I would want the option of selling my land, not be told I can't because it's in the "South Downs National Park." It puts those landowners at an unfair disadvantage.
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Re: Bramshott & Liphook Neighbourhood Development Plan - ‘Call for Sites’
- John (24th Sep 2019 22:41:23)
The Neighbourhood plan can only decide on additional housing thst has not already come forward It will not be an either or situation it would be the 600 houses plus additional sites which are not in the proposed local plan. I would imagine the large landowners have already approached the Neighbourhood plan for their feedback anyway.
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Re: Bramshott & Liphook Neighbourhood Development Plan - ‘Call for Sites’
- NDP Administrator (25th Sep 2019 10:43:58)
Thank you for your comments so far.
For clarification of the wording in my first post:
‘Sites’ includes land and property such as individual buildings, buildings and their surrounding curtilage, brownfield sites, greenfield land, and sites consisting of a mixture of the above.
‘Development’ includes land and property that could be used for community uses such as social facilities, employment, commercial, housing, public services, and sports and recreation etc…
Owners of the sites can submit their sites to the NDP until 10th October 2019
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Re: Bramshott & Liphook Neighbourhood Development Plan - ‘Call for Sites’
- D (25th Sep 2019 13:58:04)
Bohunt Manor is all of these.....
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Re: Bramshott & Liphook Neighbourhood Development Plan - ‘Call for Sites’
- SM (25th Sep 2019 14:48:57)
BOHUNT MANOR
Open land just waiting to become part of OUR Community that we can all benefit from ie:
Traffic congestion taken away from the Square
Pupil access to school
How will our 2 small Railway bridges take the TOLL of all the extra traffic due to new houses being built Midhurst Road areas???
Traffic from CHURCHERS COLLEGE WHICH SEEMS TO BE EXPANDING IN SIZE along with HIGHFIELD SCHOOL/BROOKHAM SCHOOL already have increased the volume of traffic along this road along with the School buses trying to squeeze by in some parts of Midhurst Road ie: Bottom of Railway bridge corner on route to these Schools!!!!...
Common sense needs to be taken into account here!!!!
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Re: Bramshott & Liphook Neighbourhood Development Plan - ‘Call for Sites’
- Lifetime Resident (25th Sep 2019 15:16:52)
If bohunt manor had got the go ahead in the first place we would have had all this in place by now .But our silly Parish Council refused it along with EHDC . Some parish council members belonging to Bohunt Action Group.And that was before the National Park put its boundaries in on the wrong side of the piece of land in question. It is quite obvious looking at the map that this is the best site to give liphook the much needed road around the square and all the other facilities we desperately need.We must fight the National Park to put right there Wrong.
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Re: Bramshott & Liphook Neighbourhood Development Plan - ‘Call for Sites’
- D (25th Sep 2019 16:55:02)
Why do we still have parish councils anyway? They are an archaic relic of the past when you had to ask permission from the vicar to travel outside the parish. I went to a meeting last week and it was like watching "The Vicar of Dibley". They have no place in the 21st century.
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Re: Bramshott & Liphook Neighbourhood Development Plan - ‘Call for Sites’
- George (25th Sep 2019 17:09:43)
Quite agree with Lifetime Resident about talking to SDNPA on this one, but how do you propose we do that please?
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Re: Bramshott & Liphook Neighbourhood Development Plan - ‘Call for Sites’
- D (25th Sep 2019 17:49:50)
I was told at the parish council planning committee meeting last Monday that the SDNP boundary is reviewed every five years and has just been done. When I raised the issue of Bohunt Manor the parish council made it quite clear it was not a subject for discussion. I suggest lobbying the Secretary of State for the Environment. On a separate issue, surely with the increased council tax revenue from all these new houses being built our bills should be going down every year?
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Re: Bramshott & Liphook Neighbourhood Development Plan - ‘Call for Sites’
- MJR (25th Sep 2019 20:57:15)
D
The SDNP boundary is never reviewed.
I think that you are referring to the SDNP Local Plan which is reviewed every 5 years. This review will take place in July 2024. The SDNP Local Plan can be viewed on the SDNP web site.
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Re: Bramshott & Liphook Neighbourhood Development Plan - ‘Call for Sites’
- D (25th Sep 2019 21:39:22)
Sorry, I stand corrected.
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Re: Bramshott & Liphook Neighbourhood Development Plan - ‘Call for Sites’
- Probably a nimby but not alone (25th Sep 2019 22:32:37)
'will assist with identifying where new development could be located.'
Sorry but is this a serious question ?
Obviously the answer is NOWHERE. We are FULL. The roads won't cope, the schools won't cope, Sainsburys certainly won't cope. Please go elsewhere. This was a village - it's now a town, please don't make it a ... whatever comes next.
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Re: Bramshott & Liphook Neighbourhood Development Plan - ‘Call for Sites’
- Johh (25th Sep 2019 22:41:33)
No one is stopping anyone from buying or selling land. When the Bohunt Manor estate belonged to lady Holman it was not seen as a huge building site.
Just because property developers want to make a quick buck from agricultural land in the SDNPA does not make it a building site. Ask yourself if we need 600 houses on Highfield lane and that many again on Bohunt?
As I said before it is not an either or situation it is both you are asking for.
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Re: Bramshott & Liphook Neighbourhood Development Plan - ‘Call for Sites’
- Lisa (26th Sep 2019 09:49:07)
The Bohunt Manor scheme, which was turned down a few years ago, was very popular. I counted over 800 letters of support on the application and only something over a 100 of objection. I agree it is the best place for housing if we have to have it and maybe we will finally get a new surgery for the doctors which was already agreed with east hants. I remember. Much needed now. Any housing at Highfield Lane or Chiltley lane is going to be an absolute traffic nightmare for us locals.
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Re: Bramshott & Liphook Neighbourhood Development Plan - ‘Call for Sites’
- Rachel (26th Sep 2019 12:10:35)
I wish I could find the letter from Lady Holman that was given to me many many years ago.
The land was her land and she bequeathed it to the people of Liphook to always remain as a wild and free place for walking and relaxing away from cars and houses.
I can't remember how the WWF got hold of it and subsequently "sold out" to developers :-(
Lady Holman must be turning in her grave, especially as the very people she left her land to to enjoy for generations to come, are throwing her beautiful gift back in her face and talking about ruining her vision and generosity.
I am ashamed to be a Liphook resident and disappointed in the lot of you.
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Re: Bramshott & Liphook Neighbourhood Development Plan - ‘Call for Sites’
- liz (26th Sep 2019 12:46:39)
The only thing, Rachel, is that it was not 'free' I remember you had to pay to get into the grounds
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Re: Bramshott & Liphook Neighbourhood Development Plan - ‘Call for Sites’
- D (26th Sep 2019 13:03:42)
With respect, as I understand it she left her estate to the World Wildlife Fund with a view to it being used as their world headquarters. Did they then sell it? I'm not sure but there's bound to be someone waiting to put me right.
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Re: Bramshott & Liphook Neighbourhood Development Plan - ‘Call for Sites’
- Hal (26th Sep 2019 13:43:25)
The land South of Liphook may well get built on over the next 10 or 20 years (hopefully not), but if the Bohunt Manor land was built on it would just mean that both sites would eventually be developed. So everyone banging on about the Bohunt Manor land should realize this - it's not a choice between the two. Also if they ever did build on the Bohunt land they would never put in a relief road between Portsmouth Rd and Longmoor Rd as it would reduce the site value too much.
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Re: Bramshott & Liphook Neighbourhood Development Plan - ‘Call for Sites’
- D (26th Sep 2019 14:28:13)
Hal, Surely a relief road would increase the value of Bohunt land, makes it more accessible. As for "banging on", I've lived in Liphook over fifty years and this is the only development I've objected to in all that time simply because there is a better alternative. I'm sure your crystal balls are correct when you say both sites will be built on in twenty years but I prefer to live in the present and at the present Bohunt is a far superior alternative.
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Re: Bramshott & Liphook Neighbourhood Development Plan - ‘Call for Sites’
- Penny Williamson (26th Sep 2019 14:32:49)
Liz and D are both right. Entry to Bohunt Manor Land was not free and Lady Holman left the estate to WWF and they subsequently sold it to the present owners.
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Re: Bramshott & Liphook Neighbourhood Development Plan - ‘Call for Sites’
- George (26th Sep 2019 15:15:12)
Very sure of your facts aren't you Hal? What makes you such an expert?
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Re: Bramshott & Liphook Neighbourhood Development Plan - ‘Call for Sites’
- MJR (26th Sep 2019 16:56:43)
May I repeat the post from the NDP which says :-
"‘Sites’ includes land and property such as individual buildings, buildings and their surrounding curtilage, brownfield sites, greenfield land, and sites consisting of a mixture of the above.
‘Development’ includes land and property that could be used for community uses such as social facilities, employment, commercial, housing, public services, and sports and recreation etc"…
This is an excellent means for property owners to register their property on the NDP's call for sites. It isn't solely landowners, but also members of the public that can register the land if they have any ideas for it's future land use.
It is not only housing, but employment and much needed sports & recreation opportunities which can be registered for the benefit of our community.
The continuing dialogue on these posts with respect to the 600 houses in Highfield Lane and the Bohunt Manor land are not relevant to the original call for sites post from the NDP.
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Re: Bramshott & Liphook Neighbourhood Development Plan - ‘Call for Sites’
- D (26th Sep 2019 17:13:21)
Well I'm glad someone from Bramshott and Liphook Parish Council are reading them, when I raised similar issues at your last planning committee meeting nobody wanted to know.
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Re: Bramshott & Liphook Neighbourhood Development Plan - ‘Call for Sites’
- John (26th Sep 2019 20:34:39)
The whole reason Neighbourhood DEVELOPMENT PLans are called DEVELOPMENT plans are that they only exsist to find EXTRA sites in addition to those in EHDCs local plans. The clue is in the name if you read about them. Otherwise they would be a Parish plan which we already have. Parish councils cannot say yes or no to a site they can give comments which are listened to along with the other consultees. The planning commitee has had planning training in what they can or cannot consider relevant to a site application. The South downs National Parks planning policies are relevant to their considerations. They know what is or is not feasible locally where the policies are concerned as do the neighbourhood plan steering committee. They have explored the options already.Just because some locals want to ignore policy in favour of making the landowner/s wealthy does not mean that our Sssi sites will be built on.
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