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Police at Edmonton way again - Freddie (27th Apr 2018  21:25:12) I have lived here since the houses were built and every week there is a police car parked up going to see someone , for a nice peaceful estate I do find it funny how there are police here at least once a week .

Re: Police at Edmonton way again - Martin Platt (27th Apr 2018  23:47:53) Take a look on the police crime map online. This shows crime recorded down to road location each month. Shows type of crime and the outcome. Mostly crime like anti social behaviour , drugs and violent crime etc. Think liphook comes under Longmoor and Rural. Worth checking before buying a house to help check the road. www.police.uk/hampshire/8OW01/crime

Re: Police at Edmonton way again - Helen (28th Apr 2018  07:47:35) Having looked at the crime map for Feb we have more crime than Bordon!

Re: Police at Edmonton way again - Mrs (28th Apr 2018  08:06:35) I have just looked at the police map, and it makes for sad reading.

Re: Police at Edmonton way again - p (28th Apr 2018  12:21:26) Bordon seems to be improving with all the re-generation works and good luck to them. Liphook on the other hand, in spite of being a relatively affluent area with good schools, does not seem to be improving. I was in the Midhurst Road car park last Friday and actually felt quite intimidated by the gangs of youths and hoodies congregating there. It was an uncomfortable feeling. I live in Bordon and have not experienced the same thing there.

Re: Police at Edmonton way again - Resident (28th Apr 2018  13:55:27) Sadly new estates get a lot of police presence due to social housing. This isn't a judgemental thing - it is absolute fact in this case. Every single time I've seen police in our road (and as Freddie says it is close to weekly) they have been visiting the social housing flats. That's not to say those residents have partaken in illegal activity though. It is a shame that people feel the need to get themselves involved on the wrong side of the law and damage the reputation of otherwise nice areas.

Re: Police at Edmonton way again - Lou Rolls (28th Apr 2018  16:20:11) Possibly the Bordon crime stats are a little watered down by adding a chunk of Bordon with Liphook. I notice the constabulary area of Bordon is split. One part is included with Liphook in a section called Longmoor and Rural . While the other main part of Bordon comes under the Bordon Constabulary. If you search under GU35 and select the Bordon Constabulary area the crime stats are quite high for Bordon. Especially if you add the Bordon stats to the part of Bordon that is removed and craftily added to the Longmoor and Rural stats. A clever way of watering down the true figures :)

Re: Police at Edmonton way again - dave (28th Apr 2018  16:22:31) Helen, you might have misread the map as Bordon is not in Longmoor Rural. If you expand the view you will see that Bordon had over twice the number of crimes reported to that of Liphook (91 to 39). D

Re: Police at Edmonton way again - P (29th Apr 2018  15:55:18) Whatever the stats and I know they can be massaged, the plain fact is that Liphook is not the village it used to be for a number of many and varied reasons. I was again in Liphook on Saturday (I have a small weekend job there),it was 3.30 pm and as I walked back to my car I heard shouting and screaming. When I rounded the corner there were 2 young girls and a young man seemingly off their heads and out of control having a terrible argument. Again I reiterate I live in Bordon and haven't seen such behaviour in a long while. Residents' of Liphook don't just shut your eyes and pretend the change isn't happening. I don't know the answers, but maybe lack of parenting could be one.

Re: Police at Edmonton way again - Ian (29th Apr 2018  18:11:37) Don’t care what the stats say and even with some of the antisocial problems Liphook currently has, I would still rather live in Helmand than Bordon, ghastly place!and I suspect most of the crime in Liphook is committed by Bordon residents

Re: Police at Edmonton way again - helen (29th Apr 2018  19:03:11) If you drill down even further you can see individual streets and therefore queens road Liphook is in longmoor and rural. I think we would be hard pushed to think of all areas as Bordon just because it is not the dead centre of Liphook, after all Liphook has lots of rural areas, Passfield Conford Hewshott Griggs Green Bramshott are all areas of the Parish of liphook, you have to include all those as Liphook!

Re: Police at Edmonton way again - A (29th Apr 2018  21:56:15) Haha if only the outlying areas under the Parish of Liphook were "included" in everything else! Fibre broadband- Liphook Village ..still on dial up speeds 2.5 miles out from the village Speed limits - Liphook Village Liphook in Bloom - Liphook Village Christmas Lights - as above Footpaths !!! - Liphook Village (you can forget trying to walk from Lindford to Liphook safely along a busy main road ! And so on and so on

Re: Police at Edmonton way again - P Weyland (30th Apr 2018  09:08:44) I grew up in Liphook and lived there for 35 years. We moved to Bordon 12 years ago, attracted by more bang for your buck when it came to housing. Even though geographically it was only 5 miles away, socially it felt a huge distance. That distance has been shortening year by year with the erosion of community and social cohesion that Liphook has and currently is witnessing. It was always my long term plan to move back to the town I loved and grew up in, but these days ? Nah, you can keep it!

Re: Police at Edmonton way again - kathy (30th Apr 2018  10:31:40) Yes I too used to love living in Liphook, moved here over 20 years ago, quiet friendly - never used to worry about walking home from the village centre ( even quite late at night ) - but has changed drastically - both with new developments - anti-social behaviour, traffic & just plain attitude of some of people using Liphook - But then nothing anywhere stays the same.

Re: Police at Edmonton way again - Debbie (30th Apr 2018  14:11:26) @ Freddie - perhaps the policeman/women is related to the person, they might just be popping round for a cup of tea. Or, the person may have recently been a victim of crime (not necessarily in Liphook), and the police personnel are checking they are ok - or perhaps they are having an affair.......... @ Kathy - bring it back to the "newbies" - it's always their fault........

Re: Police at Edmonton way again - Rachael (30th Apr 2018  15:08:24) I feel Freddy you are quick to judge 'social housing' residents...I have family in social housing and infact their neighbours(non council) have had police at theirs...because whether people can afford their houses or need the additional help from council for which could be medical reason etc does not mean you can put the blame into one 'band' of people...having been on the estate myself there is 1 visitor parking space for a large amount of houses on this estate which just so happens to be by this block and with complaints of parking on the roadside(which I have received a letter on my car after visiting) where is anyone supposed to be parking being police or not?? I have lived in liphook since I was 15 (now alot older) actually feel that 'outsiders' are coming into liphook they are of better worth than others and need reminding no one is different because what they own or how much money they have or where they live

Re: Police at Edmonton way again - P (30th Apr 2018  16:33:49) Rachael, nowhere in his Post does Freddie mention social housing. He was only making the point that he thought it was funny that police cars were frequently seen in Edmonton Way which is part of a nice peaceful estate. Only a quarter of those houses are social so I think it is unfair to make possibly/probably inaccurate assumptions and criticize a perfectly harmless observation.

Re: Police at Edmonton way again - Rachael (30th Apr 2018  17:00:47) Apologies to Freddy....but stand by what was said...

Re: Police at Edmonton way again - Resident (30th Apr 2018  18:39:07) Rachel, I was the one who mentioned social housing and in this case it is factually accurate that those are the houses visited by police on every single occasion I have seen them. There has also been a number of antisocial incidents witnessed, involving those residents and attended to by police. I also have friends and family living in social housing - I'm not judging their circumstances at all. I am purely stating facts. As for parking - there are also visitors spaces under the canopy but sadly Taylor wimpy didn't see fit to label these! Anyone who bought a property on the estate signed a covenant that vehicles are not allowed to be parked on the road - this isn't a rule we have made up as new residents.

Re: Police at Edmonton way again - BT (30th Apr 2018  19:00:33) I'm all for a "Neighbourhood watch scheme" that is on the look out for suspicious behaviour, deters crime & the fear of crime, reporting suspicious events to the police. It is not a permit to spy on neighbours or speculate on social media, particularly when the 'suspicious behaviour' was the presence of a police car! That's just plain nosey.

Re: Police at Edmonton way again - Resident (30th Apr 2018  22:37:47) BT - could you explain the difference between watching out for suspicious behaviour and spying? Surely one must watch, covertly, from afar to be able to identify and report suspicious behaviour? Also, surely the mere act of exiting your property means you are likely to notice the presence of police cars and potentially where they may be headed?

Re: Police at Edmonton way again - David (1st May 2018  01:05:08) I live fairly close to Edmonton way and I do find it weird how there are private homes surrounding this block of flats that are social . I also can see that usually residents themselfs park in the visitors bay ? Maybe they should of made more parking avalible to visitors also fairly close to train station that doesn’t really help matters .

Re: Police at Edmonton way again - Edmonton way resident (1st May 2018  08:59:07) I live in this block of social housing your talking about...I myself had a police car in on Fri Eve due to a personal long on going matter which I was witness in court the for other Monday...no anti social behaviour there just a check up/Chase up to the matter...I will inform you that there have been a fair few police in this block due to 'theres always one' everywhere you go lol there is def one who has at some point created grief with all the neighbours in this block and/or for their own personal disputes/arguments have had police out...there needs to be more visitor parking or even just general perking available as more houses these days are having more cars...1home 1 space and 2adults 2 cars...there's def plenty of times I've had to squeeze down the road from the too so the no parking on the road doesn't work what with visitors more than one car or parties for all your children etc it's inevitable on an estate no matter where you are or how well off the people on an estate are wether they own their home or social housing it's going to happen...now i think it should all be left there

Re: Police at Edmonton way again - helen (1st May 2018  18:09:29) The planners now always do a mix of private housing and social housing on the same estate. The theory is that behaviour is improved and the neighbourhood looked after that way, with less antisocial behaviour because the surrounding areas are nicer, and good behaviour becomes normal if people of all different kinds are all living within a few streets of each other.

Re: Police at Edmonton way again - Resident 1 (5th May 2018  11:49:34) I am a resident of the social housing in Edmonton way. I have lived here two years. I am saddened that people have nothing better to moan about than a police car in the estate and it being pointed at social housing residents. Does it really matter? Do you know who they are visiting or why? No your just assuming. This block has some lovely people in it, none of which make noise, throw parties, leave rubbish and piles of their belongings outside the block, do drugs, get drunk continually etc..... why do we have such a bad name? Personally I was moved here due to a management move as I was in a safe house after fleeing domestic violence. Yes when I moved in for the first 3 months the police were here every three weeks changing my panic alarms in my flat (none of this is anyone’s business but it may explain to the sheer few who want to know al the gossip!) I also used to manage a supermarket store an several times have had the olive to my property to take statements for break ins, thefts etc as it wasn’t always possible to schedule and match our times together whilst I was at work. I have also had the police here once to do damage to my vehicle, around the time the break ins happened on the estate! So before you judge that yet again the police are on the estate please think why this may be rather than tar people with a bad name. As for them being here weekly, this is hilarious, im sure the police have not been seen in Edmonton way over 100 times in the last two years as that would equate to one a week! Regarding parking, I was issued one space. However my partner lives here with me and we have a car each..... believe it or not it’s how we get to work!! Yes we both work, full time, and both a minimum of 50 hours a week. We are saving hard to get a small deposit together to be able to be as fortunate as all the private residents on Edmonton way and get ourselves a mortgage! We have both been madde redundant in the last two years and both have got new jobs within seven days of our redundancies. I have had numerous snotty letters left on my car in regards to parking.... nearly ALL private residents have their car or their visitors cars parked in the road it’s how it is with such limited parking! Please stop moaning, it’s a lovely estate with very little trouble, I would hate to see how some of you would act if you had a different kind of social housing tenants living in the block! We pride ourselves on the fact we work hard and our trying to make our future a better one from a bad situation. Now you know the ins and outs of one of the residents in the block maybe you will think twice about moaning. We work, we pay our taxes, yes sometimes we park a car in the street, but we don’t have late night parties, we are not out smoking and doing drugs on the estate. We don’t cause you any concern so please just stop moaning!

Re: Police at Edmonton way again - Freddie (5th May 2018  21:26:23) I believe people have got there wires twisted , I did mean the whole of the estate and building sites . I have lived in social housing myself till I was fortunate enough to buy my Home . I Did not mean too offend anyone . We must consider that there have been recent thefts in the area . I was Just pointing out I found it funny how there are police always finding themselves in this estate . I have always found the residents pleasant and friendly .... sorry I don’t think you should judge anyone on were and how they live there life’s :)

Re: Police at Edmonton way again - Paula (6th May 2018  07:03:59) Ian,..oh dear,fancy assuming it may be the Bordon crowd,involved in what's going on in Liphook, talk about a cop out,..i have lived in Bordon for ten years, extremely happy here,...get you're facts right,before you start "assuming " some Bordon people are to blame,..there are good and bad everywhere, and sometimes one needs to see the "Bigger Picture"!.

Re: Police at Edmonton way again - Ian (6th May 2018  10:37:26) Paula, guilty until proven innocent, that's the Internet world for you and part of the Internet era is collective and assumptive guilt, welcome to the Brave New World. (ps weren't the lloyds bank ram raiders Bordonites?)

Re: Police at Edmonton way again - Resident (6th May 2018  14:41:13) I think people are lightly over reacting here. I said in my orginal post that the police cars that have been down the road are associated with the social housing. I also said that doesn't mean these people have broken the law. So essentially your posts have just confirmed exactly what I said, right? Two posts from people in the social housing saying they've had the police out but not because they've broken the law.

Re: Police at Edmonton way again - Resident 1 (6th May 2018  19:27:30) Thank you Freddie! I love this estate it’s so lovely and I’m fortunate enough to live here, even in social housing I am very grateful! Make sure you say hi if you ever pop past this end, all very friendly people down here :) enjoy your bank hol weekend!

Re: Police at Edmonton way again - Resident 1 (7th May 2018  09:09:03) TeS at social housing! So what? Does not mean any of us are bad people like you are portraying! Stop moaning maybe I should start moaning about the three cars that have been parked on Edmonton way road yet again by private housing residents but they have plenty of room on their own drive ways! Oh and just to confirm the police have been out numerous times in o private houses on the estate I was clearly stating why they had been at my address. I would understand you have a point to moan about should there actually of been any trouble on the estate rather than assuming the social housing residents are always in trouble! Seriously do you people think your better than us because we live in social housing? We all are humans just in different situations stop being so judgmental. I won’t be replying anymore as it’s consuming far too much of my time. Enjoy the estate you live on and if you want something to moan about I can assure you there are plenty of other estates you could move to with much worse social housing tenants!

Re: Police at Edmonton way again - oldie (7th May 2018  09:52:08) It's naïve to assume social tenants are involved in more crime than private tenants, although in large estates that is CERTAINLY true as if you put hundreds of social tenants in an estate together you end up with gangs and drug dealing etc, people who didn't want anything to do with c rime get drawn into it. That's why they try to spread people around better so that ghettos don't develop so easily. I think it's a better system and it seems to work to everyone's benefit, the area develops a better, more realistic mix (ie not just snobs, not just layabouts), that's what makes a town and gives people some hope and something to aspire to and get to know each other. Having said that, Liphook still isn't being developed properly, loads of housing estates being plonked here but little infrastructure, the 'yoof' will get bored and trouble is in store and no one is planning for anything but more houses and profit...

Re: Police at Edmonton way again - Another Edmonton way resident (10th May 2018  16:02:07) We live opposite the social housing flats and have seen the police parked there many times, but there's been no trouble that we know of at the flats, the residents are all quiet and respectful (there's been more noise from the coach houses and terraces around). We find the estate very peaceful, the only trouble has been the vehicle break ins/ car damage bit that seems liphook wide rather than just our estate. Even the boys who come and skateboard are well behaved (except for the litter which they could do with taking with them).

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