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Skatepark
- Anonymous (2nd Apr 2017 - 11:31:14)
The skatepark in liphook is a shame upon liphook. Not because of the people there, because of the people not tearing it down and building a new one. Firstly it's not safe the ground is bumpy and rocky causing skaters to fall off and there is plants growing in each corner of the area. The concrete isn't even level. I know what your all gonna say, people smash glass there, do drugs, and misbehave. It's because the place is a S**thole. every skatepark will attract drugs. you can't get away from it. But by building a better one, designed by a professional. The locals will respect it. they will actually use if for a place to skate instead of a place to muck around. I myself have to pay for the train each weekend to go to haslmere, peterfeild, guildford skatepark just because there isn't one in liphook. there are no facilities for teens in liphook, apart from the football club which some people aren't interested in. yes there's a park but i'm not 8 years old anymore and don't want to swing in the swings. i want to do something enjoyable for one s in liphook. yes, i know the flowers look beautiful in liphook but maybe we should focus more on the younger generation then the liphook in bloom. Why build loads of more houses when we have plenty already? build a skatepark and do liphook a favour. it's been there for so many years it's time for a change
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Re: Skatepark
- Bob (2nd Apr 2017 - 16:14:55)
If you put skatepark in the search box you will find the history of it and why it's not being done.
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Re: Skatepark
- Andrew (2nd Apr 2017 - 22:33:40)
(Anonymous) own words “Every skate park will attract drugs”
How about you do the following
A. Lock it up after dark.
B. Install CCTV.
C. Site the park somewhere else, that’s not hidden away from view.
Last prices given to build a new one was 80k many years ago and only about a dozen kids use it regularly (I can see the place from my sofa) so that works out in excess of £6000 per child. Take those figures to the Football club for example whereby many dozens of kids enjoy it for literally pennies. Any new park even if it’s made of gold still won’t be respected by the locals whom appear when it gets dark to get up to no good.
If you’re a concerned parent and think my comments are unjust, then the next time your child is at the skate park sneek in behind the library or up the path from the main rec and whilst out of site just listen for a while. Some of the language and vile sexual talk by a consistent albeit minority aged 11-15 will blow your mind, and if you’re lucky you might even catch some of them huffing gas or smoking.
Liphook local clubs lists in excess of a dozen clubs for kids on this link, and I bet none of them “attracts drugs”
The place is a death trap and needs to be flattened before someone sues
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Re: Skatepark
- Jerry (3rd Apr 2017 - 06:36:18)
My son skateboards along with a vast number of other kids in Liphook, they travel many miles to find decent skate parks, never really causing any problems, just boy's having a good time, not saying they are Angels.
Liphook is crying out for good facilities whether it's skateboarding or football, maybe it's time to invest in the youth off Liphook, not long ago we had a very successful football team, over 400 kids playing football, when it came to new facilities, not interested.
As for drugs, l suspect it's not just limited to kids at the skatepark, l suspect there's some very nice families around Liphook doing things that maybe they shouldn't be doing!
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Re: Skatepark
- R. (3rd Apr 2017 - 15:17:25)
Liphook has got a skate park. It's the path and steps by sainsburys. One of the boys fell off his skateboard last year and I asked him if he was OK but was told to f**K off! I was not telling them off I was just asking him if he was OK. I often see them when I finish work and the swearing makes me even blush!!!
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Re: Skatepark
- anonymous (3rd Apr 2017 - 17:47:52)
it's not about the swearing and things like that, that's there parents fault or whoever brought them up. Don't blame it on them being skaters. none of you know how much good a skatepark does. brings people together, only a dozen kids use it because there's nothing there to use! go to haslemere or peterfeild skatepark and you'll find lots of kids and teens all socialising together. liphooks one is rubbish, therefore the kids see it as a place where they can get up to no good or be antisocial. Build a better one, and you will see a major difference. None of you know what skateparks are like. None of you know how it's works.
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Re: Skatepark
- Rachel (3rd Apr 2017 - 17:53:19)
I don't think it is the skate park itself that attracts drugs, I think it is where it is! It is tucked away in a corner! If we had a new skate park, it might be better to site it somewhere in the Rec, out in the open!
Any secluded spot is likely to be suitable for drug use, so having the park in the middle of a field for example, would surely deter undesirable behaviour.
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Re: Skatepark
- andrew (3rd Apr 2017 - 20:07:36)
i like a lot of other parents im liphook who walk by the libary every day see the state of the skate park tins bottles rubbish for some one from the parish council to spend time picking it up each day woud you want to spend thousands of pounds
of your money on a new one ?
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Re: Skatepark
- Andrew (3rd Apr 2017 - 21:24:45)
Anonymous, I respect your enthusiasm and energy but I disagree that you think its current state is what primarily attracts the no good’s and anti-socials. If a new one is built in the same place then the exact same people with still turn up as it’s a place to stand around, to been hidden away and mess around. New Skate Park or old they will still turn up and eventually destroy it no matter what shape it is in.
In 2011 there was a shelter type thing next to the skate park in mint condition and surprise surprise it was vandalized, burnt and destroyed to extent it’s only a rusting set of girders poking out of the ground.
If the skate park didn’t exist and the all-weather tennis courts didn’t have a fence and a locked gate then the tennis courts would be destroyed… fact, same goes for the bowling club, if it didn’t have a fence and a locked gate then the windows would be busted every other week.
It is all well and good wanting something but it’s not constructive to suggest its everyone else’s fault that you don’t have it. You even confirmed the numbers are about a dozen, who puts up the £80,000? To make 12 kids happy with no guarantee the negative issues will go away?
I know what skateboarding is like, I had my first skate board in the early 80’s a Powell Peralta, my hero’s were people like Rodney Mullen and at the time there was probably only 2-3 skate parks in the whole of the UK! None of which were within 100 miles of my house! I built my own half pipe and kept on skateboarding for nearly 20 years so do not suggest some of us don’t know “How it works” most of you don’t even use skateboards, bmx’s or inline skates which is what the thing was invented for.
Your wish has some very big real world problems, problems that no-one other than your dozen people whom want a new skate park and a few dozen people whom want the present one taken down are interested in. This is a very small amount of people whom care either way.
Efforts were made on facebook and by locals on a few occasions back through the years; all of them garnered less than 20 odd people in support and soon disappeared. Any plans to build a new one on that site will meet serious legal opposition. If you can find £80,000 and find a new site that will be locked up every night then good luck to you.
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Re: Skatepark
- helen (4th Apr 2017 - 09:02:28)
The figure to build a new one is probably way out of date given that it was mooted around 5 years ago, so I think that figure of 80k is probably a very conservative estimate! Perhaps if a new site is found then sponsorship could be raised from businesses to help build it.
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Re: Skatepark
- Paul (4th Apr 2017 - 09:13:21)
The skatepark at the Herons seems to function nicely, is well maintained and from first hand experience over a number of years the kids who use it are pretty decent.
Why would a similar skatepark in Liphook immediately descend into a drugs-den, as some here are suggesting?
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Re: Skatepark
- Ray (4th Apr 2017 - 09:44:01)
If the skatepark was in a decent state the more would use it, so to say only a dozen would is not true. A survey done some time ago found nearly 50 would use it. Grants are available to help pay for it so the cost would not be that great to the taxpayer. I agree it's in the wrong place, there was talk of moving it to Bohunt but you all know the problems there!
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Re: Skatepark
- Chris (4th Apr 2017 - 10:13:56)
Paul, to answer to the nice functioning of Herons skate park, its important to note Herons skate park in Haslemere has;
A. a large fence around it.
B. a gate that is locked up every evening.
C. CCTV signs on the skate park fence and CCTV upon it from the Herons center itself.
D. is in direct view of the whole of the Herons carpark during its opening hours and thus has many passing member of the public whom are arriving or leaving Herons.
Liphook's park in the back rec has none of the features A, B, C or D that Herons has. I also agree with Helen, 80k is well out of date and I remember that old figure was for skate park only, not fencing, not CCTV nor any local business staff to open and close it daily.
If any local businesses do become involved and is developed again in the back rec then its going to be a major publicity embarrassment to that business when the louts appear and do it all again.
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Re: Skatepark
- Julian (4th Apr 2017 - 10:14:57)
Surely, if you provide a facility kids would love to use it. As the comment above suggests, Liphook is crying out for good facilities.
What happened to the days when communities worked together to improve facilities and make it a better place to live. Take Liphook In Bloom as an example - all volunteers but look at the wonderful difference it makes to the Village!
What would happen without Liphook In Bloom? We would all probably come on here and complain about the lack of flowers!
£80k seems expensive for a skate park but has anyone taken the time to look at the real costs or raising the money from elsewhere? The National Lottery might support such a community project?
I for one would certainly be happy to give some time to help.
So, why don't "we" (as a community) get out there and do something about it?
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Re: Skatepark
- Emma (4th Apr 2017 - 11:36:59)
Julian I don't think it's a question of wanting better facilities or having people to come together to help. The elephant in the room is the problems with the current site.
The biggest fear for many is that some effort is put together to improve it but the money falls short and a plan B is installed, namely some minor improvements to prolong the life of the existing park with no attempt to resolve the problems. I can nearly guarantee this is what will happen.
Relocation, fences and daily locked gate with the possibility of CVTV are the first priorities to eradicate the problems. If these priorities are not mandatory to any new development then the present park needs to come down otherwise it's just going to swept under the carpet and lead to injuries as it continues to rust and the maintaining of the central problems.
Fix the wider issues first!
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