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Old Thorns Development and Longmoor Road speed limit. - Andy (14th Jul 2010 - 14:26:24) Surely any further development at Old Thorns requires a reduction in the Longmoor Road speed limit from 60 down to 40? It should be 40 already - I live off the Longmoor Road and I regularly turn right into it to drive into the village with no car visible to my left only to have someone right up my bumper in seconds, sometimes even hooting as they think I've pulled out on them. Extra traffic turning off Longmoor to go to Old Thorns makes this speed limit reduction a necessity to my mind.

Re: Old Thorns Development and Longmoor Road speed limit. - Debbie (14th Jul 2010 - 16:58:30) I completely agree with you Andy. I live in just off the Longmoor Road and although my children are not old enough to cycle on the roads yet the thought of them ever trying to cycle into Liphook on that road just fills me with fear. The cars come flying off the A3 and over the bridge and then are right on top of you when you have pulled out onto a clear road! I believe there is a parish council meeting on Monday 19th July when the Old Thorns planning application is to be discussed this may be a good opportunity to let your feeling be known as I should imagine that the planning application will be approved as always!

Re: Old Thorns Development and Longmoor Road speed limit. - Andy (15th Jul 2010 - 13:46:01) Parish can oppose the development but they really don't hold much power, that lies with the District Council. This is why all those able to comment on the planning application should do so, stressing the speed limit issue if they agree with what I'm saying...

Re: Old Thorns Development and Longmoor Road speed limit. - Debbie (15th Jul 2010 - 16:17:00) Here's the link if people wish to comment on this application. planningdevelopment.easthants.gov.uk/... It has to be done by the 29th of July 2010.

Re: Old Thorns Development and Longmoor Road speed limit. - Andy (4th Nov 2013 - 13:24:32) Bump. Something needs to be done about the speed limit on the Longmoor Road. I understand there have already been fatalities.

Re: Old Thorns Development and Longmoor Road speed limit. - Rachel (4th Nov 2013 - 13:42:55) Andy I completely agree with you. I too live off of Longmoor road and am shocked at the speed some motorists drive at! We do need some form of traffic calming along Longmoor road! I think once drivers have passed "The Avenue", they feel it's ok to put their foot down!

Re: Old Thorns Development and Longmoor Road speed limit. - bdavies (4th Nov 2013 - 14:34:23) It may be worth posting something on the HCC website. www3.hants.gov.uk/roads/all-forms They respond to complaints of all sorts and speeding is just as much a matter for concern as potholes and broken traffic lights. The more individual complaints the better and in fact it was that which helped lead to the 40mph limit along Hill House Hill after the horrific accidents at the junction near the old post office. There was also an initiative to carry out speed checks using volunteers to monitor the situation at given times but not sure if that ever got started. The speed of traffic along ALL of Liphook's main roads is a disgrace and traffic management needs to be implemented to get it sorted out.

Re: Old Thorns Development and Longmoor Road speed limit. - Andy (4th Nov 2013 - 14:44:40) As I said in another thread, I don't actually think that many people do speed down the Longmoor Road - I think it's more to do with the current speed limit being completely inappropriate. 60mph is pretty quick on a single carriageway road anyway, especially if traffic is regularly turning off to go to Griggs Green or Old Thorns / The Deers Hut. 60mph down there is too fast, let alone anyone speeding! Just to clarify for readers, Longmoor has 4 speed limits at the moment. 20MPH close the village followed by 30 and 40MPH. Then soon after the left hand bend (when driving towards the A3) it becomes the National Speed Limit, hence 60MPH on a single carriageway.

Re: Old Thorns Development and Longmoor Road speed limit. - Alice (5th Nov 2013 - 10:28:34) Perhaps Old Thorns should pay for some road safety? I have experienced this at its worst at the w/e when Old Thorns drive is especially busy. Hundreds of cars flying off the A3 and in to the hotel.

Re: Old Thorns Development and Longmoor Road speed limit. - Robert (10th Nov 2013 - 03:37:44) I don't really see the problem with the limits. 60mph seems fine to me from after the S-bend to the A3. Good visibility, no junctions per se. Filter lane onto old Longmoor road. For people pulling out on to the road, I feel you need to get up to speed reasonably quickly, or else YOU are causeing the hazard. If the limit is reduced, I think this will encourage (unlawful) overtaking, which is surely more dangerous. As for speeding drivers, reducing the limit doesn't seem to make sense, as they'll drive at the same speed anyway, won't they? Also, once someone has driven towards Liphook at a perceived too lower limit, they'll get fed up and are more likely to speed in areas closer to Liphook where a low limit is important, I feel. Just playing Devils advocate here. But let's not devalue the impact of 30/40mph speed limit signs even more so.

Re: Old Thorns Development and Longmoor Road speed limit. - Andy (10th Nov 2013 - 10:30:04) Robert - do you think it would be a serious inconvenience for you if the limit was reduced to 60mph? Perhaps the extra 5 seconds it would take you to get onto the A3 would really ruin your day. For those of us who live or work in the Griggs Green area and regularly have to run the gauntlet of joining or exiting the Longmoor Road the problem is obvious. Do we need more deaths on the road to really prove the point before someone looks at he situation with a semblance of common sense? Andy, the maximum speed on the A3 end of the Longmoor Rd is already 60mph.

Re: Old Thorns Development and Longmoor Road speed limit. - Andy (10th Nov 2013 - 11:46:31) Thanks Ed, I meant reduced from.

Re: Old Thorns Development and Longmoor Road speed limit. - Andy (10th Nov 2013 - 16:35:37) Just to clarify, I think the limit should be reduced FROM 60mph. 40mph would seem much more suitable to me and I can't see how anybody would be inconvenienced by that. Again, today I pulled out onto the Longmoor Road from Griggs Green with no car in sight from the direction of the A3. I had a full trailer on the back so could not accelerate very quickly and the next thing I know there's a car only inches from the trailer and having to brake. Given the proximity of the bend to the A3 and the old Longmoor Road exit, 60mph is simply inappropriate.

Re: Old Thorns Development and Longmoor Road speed limit. - Phil (10th Nov 2013 - 19:54:30) Can folk help with a related Longmoor Road question, please? There are normally vehicles parked on the apex of the corner / junction of Longmoor Road and Forest Lane Close. They are usually parked in the narrow end of the triangle formed by the broken white lines that mark the corner. My question is whether that is a legal place to park? I am curious as to what the wider consensus is ...

Re: Old Thorns Development and Longmoor Road speed limit. - Andy (11th Nov 2013 - 13:57:04) Phil - I'm pretty sure anyone parking there on a driving test would fail. I think you need to park a minimum of 10 metres from a junction although whether the Police would do anything about it is another matter, somebody always seems to be parked there.

Re: Old Thorns Development and Longmoor Road speed limit. - Phil (11th Nov 2013 - 22:38:42) Thanks Andy - I agree, it seems a dangerous place to park and I suspect parking there contravenes basic rules of the road. My reason for asking is that passing the junction regularly at night and in rain I am aware cars are parked there. But if someone unfamiliar with that road were to keep close to their left they could easily collide with the cars and flat-bed truck that are normally lurking there in the dark (unlit and usually facing into the direction of oncoming traffic so no rear reflectors visible). I personally think its unsafe.

Re: Old Thorns Development and Longmoor Road speed limit. - Andrew Neish (12th Nov 2013 - 00:33:17) A couple of relevant pages from the online Highway Code: www.gov.uk/waiting-and-parking/... www.gov.uk/waiting-and-parking/parking-at-night... So, quite a few rules being broken; some of them legal requirements, some not.

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