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Foul mouthed child on the Winnipeg/Midhurst estate
- Melissa (9th Aug 2016 - 19:31:32)

Walking through the estate to go to sainsburys I came across a foul mouthed child aged about 6 or 7 shouting from a garden. The language was discusting, he was shouting to another child why would I play with you your a f*****g retard and your also a f*****g t**t.
There was a lot of children present in the garden.
I have witnessed this child a few times misbehaving at the bottom of the car park.
Where is this child's parents? Surely he's to young to be out alone without an adult?
If this child is yours I seriously suggest you have a chat with him about his behaviour and language!

Re: Foul mouthed child on the Winnipeg/Midhurst estate
- Sue (9th Aug 2016 - 21:21:01)

I quite agree the amount of times I've heard the kids there swear and the parents , it's
getting worse since certain people have moved there , before then
It was a quiet place to live and the children that are there still played and
didn't come out with such bad language, makes you wonder why people say the estate has a bad name , well look who comes to live there,
People like that with kids who are surely have no respect for anything
or anyone .

Re: Foul mouthed child on the Winnipeg/Midhurst estate
- Adam (9th Aug 2016 - 21:23:10)

Really!

Get a life, put your enthusiasm into pro Europe or the poor or the millions of starving and destitute people in the wiorld

Re: Foul mouthed child on the Winnipeg/Midhurst estate
- Melissa (9th Aug 2016 - 21:53:19)

Adam, I have a very fulfilling and satisfying life!
I am very pro Europe!
I give to 3 charities to help destitute children and there families so I do my best to help out where I can. I also offer my free time to go out to these countries and help these children.
My point here is a young child is out unsupervised and using appalling language.
I walk through this car park regular and see many children out playing and happy.

Re: Foul mouthed child on the Winnipeg/Midhurst estate
- Melissa (9th Aug 2016 - 22:01:45)

I'd also like to add that most of the country's I've visited most of the children are uneducated and I can honestly say I've never seen them act in a way that I witnessed today.
It's truly sad to see such a young child using language like that. Makes me wonder what kind of an upbringing there having.

Re: Foul mouthed child on the Winnipeg/Midhurst estate
- N (9th Aug 2016 - 22:24:37)

Adam, yes worse things are happening in the world but, kids of such a young age should not use foul language, right?

Re: Foul mouthed child on the Winnipeg/Midhurst estate
- Joyce Williams (10th Aug 2016 - 09:37:24)

Is that the new housing near Sainsbury's?

It is the estate that is between the Millennium Hall and Newtown.

Re: Foul mouthed child on the Winnipeg/Midhurst estate
- Jen (10th Aug 2016 - 09:48:16)

The houses that have supermarket trolleys in their gardens!!

Re: Foul mouthed child on the Winnipeg/Midhurst estate
- Jo (10th Aug 2016 - 11:39:37)

No doubt Adam is parent of said child :)

Are you really surprised though? They use this language as that is how they are spoken to by their parents. No doubt when they grow up they will also sit on the front doorstep in their dressing gown in the middle of the day having a fag.

Re: Foul mouthed child on the Winnipeg/Midhurst estate
- Jen (10th Aug 2016 - 11:46:50)

Well said Jo.

Re: Foul mouthed child on the Winnipeg/Midhurst estate
- Millie (10th Aug 2016 - 12:07:57)

It is not the new development on Canada way(maple park). They are the council houses in midhurst road .

Re: Foul mouthed child on the Winnipeg/Midhurst estate
- Pete (10th Aug 2016 - 12:45:58)

so what if people sit on their doorsteps having a fag?

Re: Foul mouthed child on the Winnipeg/Midhurst estate
- H (10th Aug 2016 - 12:50:44)

Shock horror there are also social houses on the *new* maple park *estate*.

I have also seen people in their dressing gowns mid morning getting their bins in ...from their privately owned properties.

Re: Foul mouthed child on the Winnipeg/Midhurst estate
- Jo (10th Aug 2016 - 12:57:25)

No problem with people smoking and sitting on their own doorstep whilst doing so, in fact, it's obviously much better than smoking indoors. But smoking outdoors in full public display wearing your nightclothes is bad manners, as is not returning trolleys and using foul language.

Re: Foul mouthed child on the Winnipeg/Midhurst estate
- Pete (10th Aug 2016 - 13:31:47)

Jo if they are smoking on their own property, in their dressing gown who are you to judge?

Re: Foul mouthed child on the Winnipeg/Midhurst estate
- Amy (10th Aug 2016 - 13:42:18)

I admit I wear my dressing gown mid having a cig, on my privately own property! :)

Re: Foul mouthed child on the Winnipeg/Midhurst estate
- Stan (10th Aug 2016 - 14:50:00)

Is there anything wrong with someone smoking a fag on their own doorstep admiring the view of shopping trolleys and the occasional sofa or mattress?

Re: Foul mouthed child on the Winnipeg/Midhurst estate
- Jo (10th Aug 2016 - 14:53:20)

I am me Pete and I am allowed to judge, and have an opinion, as are you :)

I don't want to see anyone sitting around in their nightclothes in full public view. In my opinion it's bad manners.

Re: Foul mouthed child on the Winnipeg/Midhurst estate
- Pete (10th Aug 2016 - 15:00:41)

Please do explain how it is bad manners?

Foul language from a young child is bad manners in my opinion not sat in your dressing gown!

Re: Foul mouthed child on the Winnipeg/Midhurst estate
- Jo (10th Aug 2016 - 15:07:39)

It is bad manners in the same way that going into a supermarket bare chested is, the same as queue jumping and interrupting someone whilst they are speaking. Nightclothes are for indoors and not for everyone to see. I quite often see a young lady shopping in sainsburys with pyjamas and a dressing gown on. It's just not right and my teenage daughter finds it odd too.

Re: Foul mouthed child on the Winnipeg/Midhurst estate
- Gary (10th Aug 2016 - 15:16:35)

Weathers too hot for doorstep dressing gown wearing . So is wearing a string vest smoking a fag whilst swinging a can of ale okay :)


Re: Foul mouthed child on the Winnipeg/Midhurst estate
- Pete (10th Aug 2016 - 15:21:13)

The things you have listed are not similar in anyway, to sitting outside your property in your dressing gown, it's a dressing gown love, not bad manners in anyway.

Re: Foul mouthed child on the Winnipeg/Midhurst estate
- Melissa (10th Aug 2016 - 15:36:44)

I think everyone is missing the point here!
The fact here is a young child was using discusting language.
If people are comfortable in there night clothes and dressing gowns then let them wear them. I'd much rather see someone in there night clothes than someone with a skirt hitched so far up you can see there bottom cheeks and breasts literally hanging out of crop tops.
Everyone is different, we all have our own opinions and views on life.
My personal opinion is I find it awful that a child of such a young age is openly using this language.
Walking through the estate today at about 2 ish I noticed that it was quiet with only a couple of kids playing nicely.

Re: Foul mouthed child on the Winnipeg/Midhurst estate
- Big A (10th Aug 2016 - 16:02:11)

Sitting on a door step in a see through nightie, must get my self over to Liphook

Big A

Re: Foul mouthed child on the Winnipeg/Midhurst estate
- a (10th Aug 2016 - 17:57:01)

I live on the Midhurst Rd, I take it all you stuck up liphook residents think that all us "social housing residents sit around in our pj's smoking sitting on our doorsteps! Lovely judgemental people right there! I've never seen any of the said behaviour not that it's bad to do so. The said child swearing yes not nice to hear but it happens I'm afraid everywhere!

Re: Foul mouthed child on the Winnipeg/Midhurst estate
- bobbyb (10th Aug 2016 - 18:03:40)

Still in dressing gown, outside having smoke - suppose going to work might be an option !!

Re: Foul mouthed child on the Winnipeg/Midhurst estate
- Midhurst Rd resident (10th Aug 2016 - 19:37:21)

I have lived on Midhurst Rd for 9yrs and yes I have heard children using bad language and misbehaving and it happens on a regular basis. I suppose you just get use to it living here. If you dare walk through here you will regularly hear certain parents screaming at there kids, children using foul language, kids trying to set fires in the trees, children arguing with each other, babies endless crying. Sounds like the Bronx ha ha.
My children do not use bad language, I encourage my children to stay away from the children that use bad language and misbehave.
I do not have shopping trolleys parked in either of my gardens.
I do not sit on my doorstep in my night clothes or dressing gown smoking, in fact I don't have a doorstep!
Yes this estate might be known as s**t island but it doesn't mean that we are all s**t!
Just because there is a select few people that allow the above to happen doesn't mean everyone that lives here is the same!
People are very judgmental of the areas we live in!



Re: Foul mouthed child on the Winnipeg/Midhurst estate
- H (10th Aug 2016 - 19:52:16)

I had typed out a response to the going to work comment and the shocking amount of stereotypical comments against people who live in social housing.
But I have no words really other than there is enough hate in the world. Local families being victimised on this public forum , whose kids attend local schools no doubt . I don't tolerate bullies or bullying and this thread has deteriorated into exactly that .
Shameful . Call yourselves adults :(

Re: Foul mouthed child on the Winnipeg/Midhurst estate
- Andrew (10th Aug 2016 - 22:53:05)

If your child attends the skate park at anytime of the day they are utterly proficient in the most terrible language.

Don't get me wrong, this isn't an anti skate park comment. Typically am annoyed at the late night non skaters but this comment is aimed squarely at the kids 8-18 that use it correctly in day light hours, i.e (skaters) The dark level of language they use (every third word is c***) is unreal.

A neighbor with kids in his garden politely, (yes politely, man to man and decent) walked around and face to face asked a group of 10-14 year olds to chill the language due to very young kids in gardens nearby. All kids at the park were polite and agreed. 15 mins later they were playing 18+ music and ranting the worst language possible all lead by a tall curly black haired kid whom is approx 14.

Not only that, and despite a man to man gentle request the same group are now out of control and verbally abusing any movement in the nearby homes.

I suggest if you are parents of kids using the skate park you enter the main rec, and sneek up on your kids via the path between the main rec and the back rec and or hide near the library when you know your "innocent little jonny" claims to be there, the results of your experience will change what you think of your child forever for 100% of 8-18 year olds using the skate park use c*** f*** b**** and w***** as 80% of any sentence.

Re: Foul mouthed child on the Winnipeg/Midhurst estate
- Bob (11th Aug 2016 - 09:24:30)

There has always been bad behaviour and bad language on that estate since it was built. The residents were meant to have been vetted before we all moved in, but that didn't happen. I was unable to let my own children play outside in their own garden because of the language. Also I don't know why they have to smoke outside the front door in their pyjamas when they have a back garden. There's no argument for it.
Also we know not everyone is like this on the Midhurst Road (Beirut)

Re: Foul mouthed child on the Winnipeg/Midhurst estate
- Gaz (11th Aug 2016 - 09:36:54)

A few years ago two neighbours had to be split up because they didn`t get on in Beirut City!

Re: Foul mouthed child on the Winnipeg/Midhurst estate
- Amy (11th Aug 2016 - 09:41:08)

Oh you lot are going over the top! It's not that bad, there are worse places!!

Re: Foul mouthed child on the Winnipeg/Midhurst estate
- Naomi (11th Aug 2016 - 09:57:55)

Bit wrong to label all the residents with the same tag!!

Re: Foul mouthed child on the Winnipeg/Midhurst estate
- tony (11th Aug 2016 - 10:36:17)

Andrew, I agree with a lot of what you said apart from the bit about sneaking up to the skatepark to hear your child swear and how it'll change how you feel about your child forever! Grow up and calm down folk!

Firstly, you don't need to 'sneak' up on the kids, most people know what swearing sounds like and aren't going to faint. In fact many parents are rather glad the kids are out playing and learning about the world than being home on the internet!

Secondly, by the sounds of it there are enough high zoom lenses with stereo surround sound zooming in on the kids making private videos already, I expect we'll be able to watch it on youtube soon enough.

Thirdly, parents need to just explain why it's inappropriate and rude and not overreact, that just because adults or other kids swear is not a green light to copy, there may be an occasion when it's appropriate to swear for effect, it's a vocabulary tool when used sparingly, that's for them to decide as they get older, but in normal conversation it's very wrong, however it certainly shouldn't shock or change the way you feel about them forever!

Get a grip people, it's just words, I would have hoped all parents were capable of addressing this rationally and teaching their kids calmly and appropriately without going to pieces.

As for the council estate on the Midhurst Road, years ago they would build and hide these things away on separate ghettos, but latterly town planning requires logic them to be better integrated in the centre of communities, the idea is we all mix and pick up each others ways, I guess they get a bit of our polish, but we get a bit of their rough, so it sort of evens out ha ha, but you could look at it the other way, they lose a bit of their carefree innocence and get more stuck up and neurotic. Wait till they build all the new estates, you genteel folk are just going to love it, you may even need to move to Haslemere!

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