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People Parking in Main Roads - Dom Stevens (26th Nov 2009 - 08:31:34) I am getting fed up with driving up the headly road every day having to sweave in and out of the of parked cars. There are cars parked there for the whole day. if these cars were not parked there the roads would be much better, cutting down on the amount of traffic, helping the enviroment and making our lives easier

Re: People Parking in Main Roads - Dawn Hoskins (26th Nov 2009 - 16:24:12) Me too, especially when most of the houses have driveways that they could park in! I get annoyed by the dog walking person who parks opposite the travel agency with the tail gate open and dogs in the car. I know that at the end of Headly Rd they probably don't have enough front garden area to create a car parking space - but agree that it can be dangerous especially at night. the only way to remedy it would be to double yellow the road - I doubt that will ever happen!

Re: People Parking in Main Roads - Karen (26th Nov 2009 - 17:48:49) Hmm, you may have opened a can of worms here. Firstly, cars parked along any of the main roads in Liphook help to SLOW the traffic down. Anyone who lives on a main road will tell you that nobody EVER does 30mph. Secondly, residents and their visitors should be allowed to park outside their homes without being made to feel guilty. If they haven't got sweeping gravel drives that can house a large number of cars why should they not be able to park outside their house? At the end of the day, we are talking about residential roads here..which should be slow moving and be driven on with care and with consideration tfor the local residents. Thirdly, the lady with the dog van lives in the house she parks outside, and has every right to park outside her home to load and off load the dogs she walks. From what I can see, 95% of the time residents on these main roads don't park on the road and do find somewhere else to leave their cars during the day and overnight. I think your attitude is very intolerant and inconsiderate and quite frankly I am not sure why you feel you have a right to make a comment. I did cause a stink last year when some guy parked his car outside my house instead of parking in the station car park for a couple of weeks. I did warn him that he would probably lose a wing mirror (which he did) and that quite frankly there were more practical places to leave his car for the day and sometimes overnight. But I am quite happy for my neighbours and their visitors to leave their car(s) outside my house. I feel it is none of my business really. I am sure Dawn you will come back sprouting the law and informing us all about how these people don't have any rights...but in my opinion I think they should be allowed to stop outside their homes if they wish.

Re: People Parking in Main Roads - Russ & Irene Ellis (27th Nov 2009 - 15:07:22) Karen we could not agree more with you. On street parking is an excellent from of traffic calming and much better than yellow lines everywhere. Liphook is a village and through traffic should accept some delays. Most places with on street parking have slower traffic and the shops have more customers ie Weyhill Haslemere and many other small villages & towns in the area. I can never understand why there are yellow lines on the road between the traffic calming island and the crossing by the HSBC bank. The road there is wide enough for parked cars without causing obstruction and the local shops I am sure would benefit.

Re: People Parking in Main Roads - Dawn Hoskins (27th Nov 2009 - 16:15:57) Hi Karen You misunderstand my point. I don’t like dogs being left in a van with the door open as I think it could frighten them to see car light coming towards them. I am a dog owner and a dog lover and it has upset me in the past. It would certainly petrify my dog. Also, I don’t think it is unreasonable for the houses that do have big drives (the ones which are more set back) to park in their drives or ask their visitors to do so. Any road that is not marked with a parking prohibition can be parked on at any time, so every one has the ‘right’ to park everywhere. Just as the man did who was parking outside your house. I know that on streets that are continually parked up, like in Grayshott for example, that traffic reduces its speed due to the increased risk, but hold my point that when it is just the odd one that you have to weave in and out of – it can be dangerous when all their lights are off and visibility is reduced. I’m sorry I seem to have personally offended you with my post Karen.

Re: People Parking in Main Roads - Eneida (27th Nov 2009 - 19:06:30) Dawn, I'm sure all the people with large driveways, and their visitors, do park off-road....why on earth wouldn't they? But there are some of us, like me, whose driveway can only accommodate a couple of cars, at a pinch, and several houses with no off-road parking at all!! You should remember that the Headley Road is about 95% residential and not just some sort of 'motorway' between Passfield (or where ever) and Sainsburys. I would be really upset if we ever got double yellow lines....

Re: People Parking in Main Roads - Chris (28th Nov 2009 - 06:31:29) I drive up the Headley road every day to and from work and I do not find parked cars to be a hinderance. Besides, as everyone has pointed out it is a residential road and always has been. Restricting parking just to ensure that one or two inpatient people can get to their destinations 5 seconds quicker would be intolerable for residents and for Liphook in general. As for those who use it as an escape route from the A3 you either put up with it or you use the A3.

Re: People Parking in Main Roads - Jane (3rd Dec 2009 - 16:21:21) Many years ago a friend and I organised a petition which was then sent to the council asking for measures to reduce the speed of traffic in the Headley Road. The response at the time was that it had been noted that parked cars slowed traffic down and it was felt that this was sufficient. I asked if they would supply some old bangers so we didn't have to risk our own cars, but they didn't respond!!! At least they did put in a crossing ..... finally!!! But I wholeheartedly support people parking in the road, as long as they don't block driveways. Anything to stop all those who view it as a race track!

Re: People Parking in Main Roads - Dawn (3rd Dec 2009 - 17:17:20) Hi Karen, I hope you have forgiven me for my opinion about the parked cars and understand about the dogs in the van. Also, I only get particularly upset about the houses that do have driveways but still park on the road. As you had mentioned it in your post, I read the thread from when you were cross about parking at your end of the Portsmouth Road, and you seem to say quite clearly that it is dangerous to weave in and out of parked vehicles and not collide with cars coming up the other way. That is how I feel about this piece of road, mainly because the cars are only on one side, so those drivers coming out of Liphook carry on regardless of speed and it can take a very long time to get a gap in the traffic big enough to get round the parked cars. This probably does have the effect of slowing cars down which are entering the village, but those leaving are still going just as fast as before (IMO) I’m sure Eneida will be able to tell us if that is the case? I feel the same way about the cars parked in Canada Way as well. It may slow traffic down who are trying to get out of the estate, but driver coming in to Canada Way still go too fast. Also, why should commuters be allowed to inconvenience residents in this way?

Re: People Parking in Main Roads - barbara (4th Dec 2009 - 18:18:59) The houses which are approx 100 years old were not built with large driveways or garages, obvious point probably but it is our modern way of living/ not walking as much which is also to blame. Most families have 2 cars at least now. A friend of mine has a work van and 3 cars to park, but they are not in anyones way, and off road. Bigger vans and lorries which one cannot see round are a bugbear, but as there are no parking restrictions everyone has the right to park there. I think that with a population of 8000+ why do we still call Liphook a village?

Re: People Parking in Main Roads - Karen (5th Dec 2009 - 09:54:27) Dawn Not wishing to get into an argument with you over this one! My point about the parking outside my house last year was that we had at least 9 or 10 large lorries parked outside our homes on a daily basis (for several months) which made getting in and out of our drives very difficult and dangerous. The lorries were also parked right down to the Station Road junction which meant coming in and out of that road was also very tricky. The cars coming up from Petersfield direction, who normally travel at 50mph +, were not expecting to confront such a spectacle so there was a lot of sharp braking and I was also completely pee'd off with the fact that the developer had not apologised to us residents for the months of inconvenience caused by their thoughtless parking. I still do not think that a solitary car parked on the Headley Road, where the visibility is good, is dangerous, or a problem to anyone other than the somebody who wants to hack it along the road and has no consideration for anyone else! Karen

Re: People Parking in Main Roads - Eneida (6th Dec 2009 - 09:00:50) Dawn, I don't think you can compare commuters parking all day in Canada Way to residents/visitors occasionally parking outside their own houses on the Headley Road!! However, I do think people drive much too fast down the road, from whichever direction....so, clearly, what we need are far more parked cars and on both sides ;)

Re: People Parking in Main Roads - Finchie (6th Dec 2009 - 09:12:54) I think we should pedestrianise the village center ! Think about it and it makes complete sense ... Liphook North Park & Ride, based at the co-op (Let’s face it, it feels like that at school pick-up time) Liphook South Park & Ride at Sainsburies (about time they invested in the community – cue PR response about the pittance they last donated - don’t do it, you should be embarrassed about the amount !) Build a by-pass from the London Road to Haslemere through the Rec. (I am not endorsing losing our footie pitch – more like using any investment from the sale of land to build a small covered stadium – assuming of course that the council could sell the land to themselves and raise a boat load of cash – which given other threads, seems eminently achievable). This will also fix number 26’s Saturday coffee shop problem, as the pedestrianised area will increase footfall, and you will get many more drop ins (particularly waiting for the Park & Ride busses). This will also make it much less dangerous for our over exuberant youngsters at chucking out time. I would also endorse cameras in the village center, but streamed over the internet – not so much for security, but to bring any public displays of flashing to the broader community. It is not fair that these opportunities are just restricted to a small number of random drivers. Clearly there is a lack of interest in people going to Bordon, as SWT have cancelled the bus service, so the missing link in my theory is why are there so many cars travelling north through Liphook on the Headly Road. My only conclusion: to use the tip. So I suggest we build a new one on Milland Green. Are you with me ??? Happy Weekend, Cheers, Finchie

Re: People Parking in Main Roads - Paul Robinson (7th Dec 2009 - 09:51:36) Anyone wishing for a better demonstration of the effect of parked vehicles in traffic calming need only look at The Avenue from 08.30am until 9.15am weekday mornings. With Mums jockying for position close to Avenue Close, with rat run traffic using the Avenue to get to Headley Road / Longmoor Road, exiting Mums on their mobiles, the experience is far from calming. Come on Finchie get it sorted! Paul Robinson

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