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bonfires - linda (8th Apr 2015 - 20:37:45) Just when you thought it was safe to put your washing out on a nice sunny day, some IDIOT decides to have a bonfire. (Along Headley Road) I have had to wash my clothes again. This seems to happen frequently where we live. If it happens to often then the council will be getting a complaint. Why do people feel the need to light a fire, when they can take their cuttings etc to the Bordon tip. Not very happy!!

Re: bonfires - S (8th Apr 2015 - 22:12:11) I thought it smelled lovely. As long nothing is being burnt that causes noxious fumes I don't see the huge problem. I also don't get the big palava about clothes smelling of bonfire, its a nice smell. I would hang my clothes out and have a bonfire at the same time, don't see the reason for this pettiness. Why should someone take garden waste to the tip when they own a perfectly good garden? I'm sure you people moaning about it are the same people who think a sunny bank holiday weekend is the perfect time to mow your immaculately chemical-dowsed lawns and disturb the peace. But you don't see me starting threads to moan about that, because there is no law against it, just like there's no law against having the occasional non-polluting bonfire on your own land.

Re: bonfires - wolfie smith (9th Apr 2015 - 00:13:50) It's thoughtless and rude to have a bonfire during the day. If you're going to have one then do it at dusk. Unfortunately too many people part of the me, me, me, society.

Re: bonfires - Jj (9th Apr 2015 - 07:11:29) S- why are you being so nasty, there is no need for that. I think it's a good point about the bonfires. Why can't people wait until the evening? It is extremely frustrating and I have been very angry at times. a resident up the road lit a bonfire on a beautiful hot day and I couldn't see my garden for smoke, it was horrible. As for the smell some people do not like it. Please respect the lady's opinion and don't attack someone so nastily.

Re: bonfires - W (9th Apr 2015 - 08:06:47) I thought there were regulations when you could light fires ie after 6 in the evening - I don`t like mine smelling of smoke.

Re: bonfires - kl (9th Apr 2015 - 09:39:49) Liphook is bonfire central. I completely agree with the opinion that it is inconsiderate and unnecessary particularly in Spring & Summer when people are likely to have windows open, washing out, be outside etc. I don't even think there is any case for waiting until evening at these times. Even in Autumn/Winter you get nice, sunny days spoilt by fires. There is a tip 5 miles away, there are garden waste bags and by the way ALL burning pollutes the atmosphere - you don't have to burn 'noxious' substances. There are too many bonfires lit in Liphook too often. And there are laws against it if the same person does it regularly. I know of people that have complained to the Council and an officer has come out to check on the nuisance caused by the fire.

Re: bonfires - AB (9th Apr 2015 - 10:58:11) The person to speak to for advice is Stuart Williamson, Environmental Protection Officer at East Hampshire DC. Phone 01730 234 349.

Re: bonfires - Terry (9th Apr 2015 - 11:11:02) Garden bonfires are often a real anti-social nuisance but there is little that can be done unless it is a persistent problem. www.gov.uk/garden-bonfires-rules Garden bonfires: the rules. There are no laws against having a bonfire, but there are laws for the nuisance they can cause. Burning domestic waste: You can’t get rid of household waste if it will cause pollution or harm people’s health. This includes burning it. You can get rid of household or garden waste by composting or recycling it. Contact your local council to find out how to dispose of garden waste and about recycling in your area. Danger to traffic by smoke: You could be fined if you light a fire and you allow the smoke to drift across the road and become a danger to traffic. Complain about a neighbour’s bonfire: Your council can issue an ‘abatement notice’ if a neighbour’s bonfire is causing a nuisance. A bonfire must happen frequently to be considered a nuisance. Your neighbour can be fined up to £5,000 if they don’t stick to the notice. Last updated: 12 November 2014 Also an information brochure from EHDC: WHY IS IT WRONG TO HAVE A BONFIRE?

Re: bonfires - smokey joe (9th Apr 2015 - 13:22:42) We do live in the countryside its part of rural life been in liphook 40 plus years and there are less bonfires now than there used to be what about bbq smoke or wood burning stoves when they start yes its not nice to be smoked out and you should always look to see if washing is out and windows open if so dont light the fire saying that we used to burn waste i would get up at 6 am so to make sure no washing out or windows open all clear so i started bonfire at 8 somebody started moaning because they had put there washing out after the bonfire was lit and complained about smoke so you cannot win ps the ash is very good for the garden. Don't burn green or wet garden waste cover it let it dry then less smoke

Re: bonfires - Jay W (9th Apr 2015 - 16:19:28) As you rightly say, the tip is in Bordon. Please remember that not everyone has a car and can take their rubbish to the tip. Garden waste bags/bins get filled quickly and a considerate bonfire may make more environmental sense than driving to the tip anyway. Personally these days I find the smell from the numerous wood burning stoves cling to your hair and clothes when walking in Liphook far more than a bonfire does (provided of course you are not trapped right next door to it)

Re: bonfires - S (9th Apr 2015 - 16:56:40) I'm not being nasty; personally I think the original poster was more 'nasty' than me by branding people who have bonfires as 'IDIOTS'. Yes, obviously all burning produces emissions, but burning garden waste is allowed, whereas burning plastics or synthetics isn't because it produces noxious (poisonous)gases, which CO2 from a garden bonfire is not. If you put your garden waste in the compost bin then CO2 is still produced as it is broken down, and unlike burning it, methane is additionally produced through microbial decomposition. So it is arguably better to burn certain garden waste than to compost it. The pollution argument is also moot since a lot of people gaily churn out the same pollution from their wood burning stoves all winter long and conveniently don't consider that as a problem. If your garden is being filled with thick black foul-smelling smoke then I'd suggest your neighbour is burning more than just garden waste, as that shouldn't be happening.

Re: bonfires - Keith (9th Apr 2015 - 17:35:40) I can sympathise with the original poster but at the same time bonfires are part of rural living. I have been having bonfires in my back garden for the last forty years. I generally do look around to make sure no one has washing out before lighting it but sometimes someone will hang out washing after the bonfire has started, so not much can be done about that, and for the life of me I still don't understand the logic of people who leave their washing hanging outside all night. Personally, I find that I get more smoke in my garden from neighbours' barbeques and chimeras than I ever do from bonfires (either mine or anyone elses). And for those who talk about pollution, have you thought about the carbon monoxide from those gas patio heaters - in the old days we would have put a jumper on, now it seems the solution is to burn gas on the patio and try to heat up the entire atmosphere. And yes there is a tip in Bordon, but not everyone has a car, and if a bonfire does cause any pollution it probably falls into insignificance against the fumes from the car to the tip and back, and then the diesel fumes from the lorry that then takes the container from the tip to the landfill site.

Re: bonfires - martin (9th Apr 2015 - 21:31:55) Dear S You thought it 'smelled' lovely? You mean it Smelt lovely. People should not be having bonfires during a hot summers day. I can not think of anything worse than clean washing smelling of fire... have some respect.

Re: bonfires - S (10th Apr 2015 - 08:20:45) Dear Martin, In future I would suggest a quick google before embarrassing yourself publically. grammarist.com/spelling/smelled-smelt Outside North America, English speakers use smelled and smelt interchangeably, and neither form is significantly more common than the other.

Re: bonfires - philipc (13th Apr 2015 - 21:23:33) when i was a child, we used to melt lengths of lead cabling in a home made crucible on our garden bonfire. To make lead weights for fishing. This is of course appalling on several levels - but it just goes to show how times change. I love bonfires. My kids love bonfires. When we first moved onto the Headley Road some years ago, I started a bonfire to burn some garden rubbish. Within seconds, a fiercely unfriendly woman was banging at the door telling us we were acting illegally. I subsequently realised she was talking nonsense - but like most people, i don't like to offend my neighbours, so now i only have bonfires in the evening, when the air temperature is cool, and i manage the burn carefully so there is minimum smoke. The woman has not banged on the door since, so i guess this is the way to do it? (we also used to play with liquid mercury from a broken thermometer. i'm doomed!)

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