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Do not let them off the hook - Allan (31st May 2009 - 22:17:52) The level of corruption demonstrated by all of our elected representatives is staggering. Today, the tough talking David Cameron, leader of the Conservative party, was exposed as having taken full advantage of what he was able to on a property purchase. There is no where the natural Tory voter can go on Thursday to cast their vote, unless they are happy to put up with these excesses. What is the answer? carry on as before knowing that MP's, and MEP's will dip their snouts ever deeper into the trough, or should we ditch the whole bloody lot of them in favour of voting for new minority parties like Jury Team , Libertas and UKIP. Whatever your political leanings, it cannot stay the same

Re: Do not let them off the hook - Paul Robinson (1st Jun 2009 - 17:19:35) As someone who has made a point of voting whenever called upon I agree that the corruption encouraged by the 'system' has given me cause for concern with regard to the three main parties. However voting for a party whose policies I do not agree with is not an option. For the first time ever I am considering writing on my polling slip 'NONE OF THE ABOVE' which is the only course open to me. Paul Robinson

Re: Do not let them off the hook - Dee (1st Jun 2009 - 18:51:33) What a good idea. Was there a film with the same idea? I am sure some one will put me right. I think I might just vote for none of the above. Dee

Re: Do not let them off the hook - Bill Ratcliffe (1st Jun 2009 - 18:56:21) What can we do. I have voted in every election since 1970, but now I cannot see it worthwhile voting for anyone. In the so-called mother of parliaments so many MPs have behaved like banana-republic officials, seeing it as their right to dip in to the public purse and take their share of the goodies. If they had not been caught with their hands in the till it would have continued forever. No wonder the MPs fought so hard against the Freedom of information Act applying to them. We used to look up to MPs as people of integrity, even if we did not agree with their policies. People like Francis Pym, Dennis Healy, Jo Grimmond seemed to represent something worth voting for, but as revelation is stacked upon revelation, and the appalling excuses of making a mistake, and I will pay the money back really does make one ask, "What Does Britain Stand for today?" We appear to be governed and lead by common criminals.

Re: Do not let them off the hook - Dawn Hoskins (1st Jun 2009 - 19:04:24) Lets all vote Green. they have a lot of very very sensible policies - not just environmental ones. This charade might be just what the planet needed!!

Re: Do not let them off the hook - Nick (1st Jun 2009 - 19:31:09) Paul's response to my posting - Meeting with Constituents - sums up the reason why these thieves will continue to get away with stealing from us. THE SILENCE IS DEAFENING. If you are serious about doing something let's start with forcing these people to meet us face to face and hearing what we have to say to them. Their pathetic excuses and lies are the only things transparent about them. We do not need to hear any more of their disingenuous utterances but they most definitely have to understand that some of their actions have been criminal and indefensible and that we won't stand for it. They also need to realise that standing down at the next general election, when they can claim their tax free "parachute" allowances and pensions, is not bloody well acceptable. If you really mean "what can we do", as I have seen asked on this website so many times, then get off your backsides, stop posting anodyne platitudes and let's get our MP into his constituency to listen to us. Let's try to get a bit of momentum going to shake these politicians up. A response of any kind would be good but I am not holding my breath as most of Liphook seems content to maintain the status quo. James Arbuthnot must be thinking he's got away with this and that is probably one of the few viewpoints we have in common at this stage. Why not prove me wrong.

Re: Do not let them off the hook - Sue w (1st Jun 2009 - 20:22:43) Allan I came to the same conclusion a good many years ago. Since I could vote - my X has always been in the Conservative box - as was my parents and grandparents. That was until the election that Mrs Thatcher lost her job. I felt that NO party properly fitted what I wished to see as parliamentary leaders, and would not vote 'tactics' so did not vote at all. And never since. I think from the poll turnouts - I am not the only one!! Perhaps now, we should all look more seriously at the 'fringe' parties. My son and his friends are more open to change and are definitely not only considering - Labour, Tory, or Liberals. I don’t know if it hit the local Messenger here, but Jeremy Hunt (Surrey) mp held a meeting in Farnham with his constituents - so as you have asked why has Mr Arbuthnott not done the same??

Re: Do not let them off the hook - Mike Grimes (1st Jun 2009 - 23:15:38) Has anyone been watching developments in Saffron Walden (it was once my "neck of the woods"). The sitting MP is Sir Alan Haselhurst, (Con., deputy speaker)who has had a little bit of explaining to do himself. I once mentioned that no one party seemed to represent my own views very closely. Well, if columnist Simon Heffer were a party, it very well might. Simon "The Heff" has thrown down the gauntlet to Sir Alan and said that if he does not apologise for his expenses misdemeanours and promise not to be such a naughty knight again he will stand against him as an independent at the next general election. Heff then received, reportedly, an avalanche of local support for the idea. Today "Our Boris" has publicly called on The Heff to go one step further and go for it regardless. I hope he does. I might flip my first home back there so I can vote for something I believe in. As for Liphook at the next General Election. Does anyone know which constituency we will be in? There are boundary changes. James Arbuthnot did hold a meeting together with, I think, our new prospective Conservative candidate to discuss this. Sadly, it clashed with the Carnival quiz night so nobody important was able to make it.

Re: Do not let them off the hook - Eneida (2nd Jun 2009 - 09:41:26) I may be wrong, but I think this is the new man Mike is talking about...it also shows the new boundary changes: www.damianhinds.info

Re: Do not let them off the hook - Allan (3rd Jun 2009 - 01:36:16) Dawn, The last bunch of scooby doos we need in any form of gov't is The Greens. Their entire sales pitch is based on fear. Fear of global warming (happening), fear of governments worldwide not listening to them (true-ish), and fear of the fact that at some stage they will be rumbled as being less than honest with their presentations (acquiring political skils!). The fact is that they are redundant as a movement, even if they gain seats in the Euro elections. they now only have a status as a vested interest because we pay exorbitant sums through the EU to implement their policies as a sap to "the environment". And, of course, this has become big business. Our national gov't is subject to E.U. diktat on green and "renewables policy"), and must follow whatever guidelines handed down by our European masters, no matter the cost or practicallity. This is where the multi million £ industry makes it's money. So, futile "green" alternatives to anything are being propounded as perceived wisdom and being adopted to be seen to be "green" even if they are with merit, or not. If we believe that global warming is a condition of the planet that can be arrested by reducing human carbon emissions over a short period, and in stages, then truly, we are all quite mad. This process started some 200 hundred years ago and will run it's course. Global temperatures are rising (even if we think it's too cold today), and wisdom would suggest that all governments worldwide would be better advised to invest in how to deal with the problem when it arrives, rather than pander to the so called environmentalist experts who would like to persuade us that we can hold back the inevitable tide. Estimations vary, inevitably, as to the severity of temperature change, but if we believe that in the northern hemisphere we may have average increases of 8 degrees, and in equatorial regions, 5 degrees over a period of 30 to 40 years, you have the seeds of total worldwide change. Food shortages may well force population migrations from central African countries north into Spain ,France, Germany whom,in turn, may not be able, by that time, to import sufficient foodstuffs to feed themselves. The English Channel may well become be a wet and useful frontier. Finally, Dawn, some years ago, Shell announced it's decision to dump The Brent Spar oilrig in the Atlantic. Greenpeace claimed it was full of toxic chemicals and mobilised all it's resources to fight the decision. The furore became international after Greenpeace disclosed what chemicals were on the rig and the consequences to the marine environment if Shell went ahead. Well, they were misleading us. How do I know? Because I have had assurances, on a purely social basis, from the M.D. of the consultants Shell employed to carry out the environmental study on the best way, with least environmental impact, to safely dispose of the rig without endangering human lives. Because there were no noxious materials on board, and one of it's supporting struts was severely damaged, which prevented it coming shoreside to be broken up safely, the recommendation was made to sink it in very deep water where it would have eventually become a habitat for marine life. Greenpeace were informed of this risk, but it did not suit their political agenda to acknowledge that. Not to be trusted!

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