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Neighbourhood Plan
- Bemused (12th Sep 2014 - 18:04:43)
According to the report in the Herald this week, EHDC are asking Liphook to do a neighbourhood Plan. (This is different from a Parish Plan as it has more power to block developments.) As usual Liphook is one of the last places to do anything. We were the last in the area to start. Parish Plan. Even Steep and Sheet and other smaller places have started a Neighbourhood plan.
Why are we in Liphook going to allow this to happen? To quote one Councillor, "whose going to finance it! " This is ridiculous when there is £100.000 secreted away from Parish funds!
Come on Liphook get your act together. The NP will give us power to determine where the developments will be and the future of the infrastructure.
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Re: Neighbourhood Plan
- stacey (12th Sep 2014 - 23:17:41)
I do not know where your information is coming from, a neighbourhood plan is only to decide on where the houses will go, if anything it is an encouragement to development. A neighbourhood plan has only power to decide on suitablesites to develop. If more houses are needed than the choice allows for then those houses will have to be built. EHDC want to look as if it not them making descisions, but because the amount of housing required has been fixed, it is really only hobsons choice is'nt it!
A neigbourhood plan is not obligatory, it is optional.
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Re: Neighbourhood Plan
- stacey (13th Sep 2014 - 21:29:54)
I cannot see that this contradicts anything I say, it is to encourage building in a particular area unless it contradicts national planning policy, which it would in the case of the National Park areas, which are covered by National Planning Policy and building houses would not be approved there, especially areas of special landscape quality which Bohunt Manor is, unless it is in the National Interest to build houses in the ParK. Hardly going to be the right place for a development plan there is it! Most people also do not want more houses built in the area so any development plan is subject to a referendum, which must have more than 50 per cent of those voting, to approve the development. It is all about encouraging building.
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Re: Neighbourhood Plan
- Annoyed (26th Sep 2014 - 17:38:18)
Just seen in the Herald 25/9/14 that there is to be a question asked at the Parish Meeting on Monday 29th by the Northcutt Trust as to getting a NP. So that's EHDC, the Steering Group of the Parish Plan and now Northcutt Trust all asking for it.
No money available?. See the Parish Accounts then.
The more who go to the meeting on Monday the better so come on Liphook stand up for your rights.
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Re: Neighbourhood Plan
- stacey (26th Sep 2014 - 21:53:30)
A developer asking for help getting his development, by way of the plan, no surprise there then! When/where have you read that the parish plan steering group have asked for one? It does not have to be done by the Parish council?
any recognised community group could do one? The downside of a neighbourhood plan is that it does not have to be accepted by the district councils or SDNP so the money spent on it is not reclaimable or refundable. a neighbourhood plan is not a legal obligation it is useful when there are severe housing shortages in an area, hardly applicable to the National Park who have stated they do not need to find land for houses. There is a national need for lots more afgordable housing yes which they recognise, but Mr Northcott intends market housing.
A neighbourhood plan is primarily going to promote more housing.
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Re: Neighbourhood Plan
- Darren (27th Sep 2014 - 08:52:51)
Unfortunately I personally believe the true reason Bramshott and Liphook Parish Council have not done a Neighbourhood plan is because they know full well that the majority of residents would vote for development on the Bohunt Manor and Northcott sites (as seen at the recent LIPS event).
The Chairman/woman and her supporters are vehemently opposed to any development of these site therefore will do all they can to ensure development does not take place there and is forced onto other, less sustainable and suitable sites. It's purely a selfish and personal decision on there behalf and not a decision for the best future of the Parish as a whole.
Unfortunately that has been the situation at BLPC for many years and shows no sign of changing.
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Re: Neighbourhood Plan
- Peter R (27th Sep 2014 - 12:10:26)
I wholeheartedly agree with Darren. There are some very biased, self seeking councillors currently sitting on Bramshott & Liphook Parish Council who still have secret meetings behind closed doors to decide in advance their plan of action. Roll on May 2015 when we can vote to get rid of them and have a clean sweep. Let us hope we have people standing for election who do have integrity and the best interests of the electorate of Bramshott & Liphook at heart.
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Re: Neighbourhood Plan
- Kat (27th Sep 2014 - 18:04:53)
Anything that gives the people of Liphook an opportunity to have a greater say in the planning process has to be worth pursuing. And that's the problem, as councillors are pursuing their own agendas rather than listening too, and then acting on, the needs of the people. The Neighbourhood Plan is shown at 22.45 in the consolidated recommendations of the Parish Plan.
It will be interesting to see what the presentation from Peter Brett Associates LLP reveals at the Council meeting on Monday night, and to see what the Council decides on the motion on the Neighbourhood Plan "should funds be available to pay an independent party to undertake the required work". Looking at the planning portal it says that Parish Councils should be responsible for this in parishes. Councillors saying there are no funds is just lame and laughable. They have lots of money shown in their accounts, so Parish Council, stump up the money yourselves for the good of Liphook. Looking forward to the referendum, which IMO is a reason why they have pontificated and delayed for so long because they know the result would go against them.
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Re: Neighbourhood Plan
- Gavin (28th Sep 2014 - 12:01:55)
The Liphook Herald States that a Jonathan Walton wishes to discuss the need for a Neighbourhood Plan for Liphook to review development and traffic congestion in Liphook.
Mr Walton is clearly not a resident of Liphook and, of course, represents a possible developer whose proposed site lies totally within the South Downs National Park. The rules governing development in a National Park, as we have been told countless times, are solely the responsibility of the Parks Planning Committee.
The rules for development within SDNP a are quite clear and available for all to see on their website.
The much derided Parish Council may only recommend development in areas where they have a legitimate interest. The SDNP falls outside their scope.
Much store has been set by the Bohunt development, which also lies totally within the National Park, having had more votes cast for it, in a meeting over one year ago, than any other site. This meeting, attended by some 200 or so of Liphooks total population (is that 8000 now?), could hardly be called representative.
The fundamental issue is that all the developers, be they Bohunt, Foley, Chiltley, the former hospital site, etc are all trying to push their developments through, what a surprise!
But let us remember, that at the moment Liphook is only required to find 175 houses to meet the EHDC target. Surely we are not going to offer more!
And so to traffic, yes Liphook Square can be busy, but, and I use it at least three or four times every day, it is certainly no worse than Haslemere, Guildford, Petersfield or any other town that has a four way junction and large schools. In fact I have rarely ever waited for more than a few minutes ....even at rush hour.
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Re: Neighbourhood Plan
- Rob (28th Sep 2014 - 17:11:45)
Re developers, any one who was at the meeting with EHDC on the Planning meeting will have heard that if a development is refused then it goes to appeal and is granted then the Council does NOT get the developers funding (section 106). from 2015 Thjs is why they are all getting in now and the Councils Parish/District are granting them wily nily.
The reason our Pc does not want a Neighbourhood Plan is because it will cut right across their approval of the existing plans already in the pipe line.
Liphook is due to have over 800 houses which have been approved in outline already.so far but must provide space for ANOTHER 175. not just that.
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Re: Neighbourhood Plan
- stacey (28th Sep 2014 - 21:15:09)
I think Rob is incorrect the applications already in the pipeline, cannot be put on hold even if a NP is started now. The developers would be able to claim against ehdc if an application is unreasonably delayed. A neighbourhood plan takes at least 18 months to get to the final stage which is a local vote to support the plan. The Neighborhood plan has no power to block development in any areas which have already been designated for development, eg there is a list of what is called the Reserve housing sites, which developers put forward to the local council every few years, and then told if the local council have in principle said we would consider that for housing. In the case of Bohunt Manor before the boundary of the Park was drawn, they were rejected to even get on the reserve housing list, so when the boundary was put in place, they had nowhere to go, so it is in the case of the Northcott Trust, it is not on the reserve housing list. TheSDNP has not yet drawn up their local plan. That document will contain their plans for the Liphook area of the Park. That document I believe is in the last stages and will probably be published in 2015. Any Neighbourhood plan cannot conflict with any exsisting National or local housing policy. Neighbourhood plans have to be subjected to a government inspector, and also could be the subject of a judicial review if done incorrectly. A neighbourhood plan is not automatically accepted, it may be rejected at several different stages.
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