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Roundabouts - Jaybee (19th Aug 2014 - 19:51:23) Would the "Lady" who sounded her car horn at the roundabout at the Anchor Garage at 3.55 today take note that roundabouts are for going around not going straight across.

Re: Roundabouts - Rob (20th Aug 2014 - 00:00:23) Amen to that. Also a reminder that traffic on the roundabout and traffic approaching from the right hand side has the right of way. I've had to take avoiding action so many times on my motorcycle because some inconsiderate driver doesn't understand the highway code.

Re: Roundabouts - JW (20th Aug 2014 - 17:38:37) Just as a matter of interest, if three motorists arrive at the three different entries to the mini roundabout, who do you suggest has right of way?

Re: Roundabouts - JW (20th Aug 2014 - 20:06:48) Wonder if it was the same 'Lady' driving the lorry that went through the wrong side of the roundabout in Petersfield direction without even touching the middle circle?

Re: Roundabouts - tony (20th Aug 2014 - 21:05:50) JW, pecking order goes something like this: Lorries, white van man, taxi drivers, boy racers, BMWs, mums, OAPs, estate agents, motorbikes, pushbikes, middle aged ladies in volvos. Not that I necessarily agree with the order. Cheers.

Re: Roundabouts - Grant (20th Aug 2014 - 21:25:57) JW It's obvious! you need blonde hair, dark glasses & a Landrover. Then you can proceed to Little London @ your leisure.

Re: Roundabouts - JW (20th Aug 2014 - 23:02:45) Don't forget the mobile phone clamped to an ear... Goes with shades...

Re: Roundabouts - F (21st Aug 2014 - 19:53:45) 4:45pm today I was going round the round about from Midhurst Road towards Haslemere Road. Some idiot the on the right hand side blocked the way stopping traffic going right or left on the roundabout. This older man was aggressive because the vehicle coming out of Midhurst rd going left was in his way. I am behind all this on my motorbike waiting to turn right from Midhurst Rd to Haslemere Rd. I pull out when safe and a young man in a white van Over takes me on the roundabout heading the same direction as me. I had to stop as he just drove over the top of the roundabout cutting myself and everyone else up. No wonder there are accidents on these roundabouts with impatient idiots like these driving. Luckily this time no one was hurt.

Re: Roundabouts - Ad (21st Aug 2014 - 20:13:00) It would also appear to be "no indicator" day in Liphook!!

Re: Roundabouts - Colin (21st Aug 2014 - 23:37:57) I totally agree, in accordance with the highway code, you give way to traffic on the right. However, when there is no traffic present at the right, or at any other of the roundabout junctions when you set foot out of your junction, surely if a speedy motorist from the right attempts to go straight over, they do not have the 'right of way' to just carry on ploughing over the roundabout regardless of whether you are still on it, sound their horn, and wave their hands at you? This is not the 1st time this has happened to me on one of the mini roundabouts in Liphook either. Anyone else agree?

Re: Roundabouts - liz (22nd Aug 2014 - 08:51:47) Indicators are not fitted as standard on BMWs these days. Optional extras only.

Re: Roundabouts - A concerned parent (22nd Aug 2014 - 09:58:20) Just seen a driver on her mobile phone pull out onto the roundabout in front of a lorry (that was approaching the junction far to fast) - she was literally inches away from disaster and to make matters more horrific she had kids in the car. If I had time to have taken a photograph of her I would have and sent it to the police. It is only a matter of time before we have a real tragedy here. Mini roundabouts have always attracted issues of who has right of way, this will never change. However what is really a concern nowadays is the number of people that negotiate these junctions whilst using a mobile phone. Working where I can see one of these junctions, I can tell you it is quite staggering how many drivers are using their mobiles whilst negotiating the roundabouts. Do we really need to wait for someone to die for the message to sink in that YOU DO NOT USE YOUR MOBILE WHILST DRIVING

Re: Roundabouts - David (22nd Aug 2014 - 13:12:41) link to highways code section on roundabouts and mini roundabouts www.gov.uk/using-the-road.... Mini-roundabouts. Approach these in the same way as normal roundabouts. All vehicles MUST pass round the central markings except large vehicles which are physically incapable of doing so. Remember, there is less space to manoeuvre and less time to signal. Avoid making U-turns at mini-roundabouts. Beware of others doing this. Laws RTA 1988 sect 36 & TSRGD regs 10(1) & 16(1)

Re: Roundabouts - Jo (22nd Aug 2014 - 18:46:48) It does seem to be silly week. Yesterday there was a near miss between a huge mitsubishi truck thing (mother and children ensconsed) and a small black car, tonight a yellow mini obv thought she was the only one on the road tonight as she ignored anyone coming from her right and just went straight over the roundabout even though there was a car to her right already on the roundabout! What made it worse was that she was driving very slowly!

Re: Roundabouts - Richard (22nd Aug 2014 - 20:22:44) And have you noticed the drivers always ensure no eye contact is made..

Re: Roundabouts - Ak (22nd Aug 2014 - 21:14:57) Wonder how many of these culprits would pass a driving test !!!!

Re: Roundabouts - jo herridge (22nd Aug 2014 - 22:16:55) Hi Jo, Was this just before 6pm yesterday?

Re: Roundabouts - G (23rd Aug 2014 - 10:58:27) I approached the first mini coming from London yesterday, going at less than ten miles an hour. J For once, there was little traffic about, nobody waiting. I entered the roundabout and was cut up by a vehicle travelling fast from the Headley Road (not visible when I started). The other vehicle shot over the roundabout on the wrong side of the road, barely touching the right hand edge of the mini with his near side wheels. Perhaps we need camera on these minis?

Re: Roundabouts - Vic (23rd Aug 2014 - 14:27:18) I was always told to slow down at a roundabout regardless of right of way, just in case. I have been nearly rammed from the right exiting from Longmoor Road so many times I have lost count. Only a few weeks ago a woman shot across the roundabout just after I drove on. She appeared from nowhere and had made no attempt to slow down and then stopped in the middle of the roundabout to shout about her right of way! The very fact that she was about to hit me on the drivers side passenger door says volumes about who was where first. Drivers are paying no attention to 20 mph speed limit through the village and certainly see the road between the two roundabouts as their own personal speedway. I have actually been overtaken as I drove past the pub car park by a white van doing over 40 in the 20 mph zone! Don't get me started on indicators and mobile phones! My kids will soon be applying for provisional licences and it isn't their driving that worries me but the other idiots on the road.

Re: Roundabouts - Jo (23rd Aug 2014 - 19:21:53) It may have been Jo, the other car was a pale blue small car.

Re: Roundabouts - KR (24th Aug 2014 - 12:54:46) i dislike ALL the mini roundabouts in this village...as i have had my fair share of problems with them too, well i do ride a pushbike...and i know in the 'pecking order' above we are very low on the list...but i ride one as both my jobs are in the village and i dont see the point in having a car...personal choice. i do have a little problem with SOME car drivers, they seem to forget their car has a indicator stick that all they have to do is FLICK it too show others on the road which way they are going...as they had to do in their driving test...?! where as a person on a pushbike (like my self) has to take my whole hand/arm off my handlebars to signal to the other road users which way im going which is alot HARDER then a little flick of a stick... yes i know its my choice to ride a pushbike...but we ALL have to share the same road...and i am in agreement for cameras on ALL the roundabouts in this village...it would cut down on boy racers,people on phones and many more problems...

Re: Roundabouts - Peter (24th Aug 2014 - 19:08:03) It must be that time of year again, we had a lengthy discussion (60+ replies) no more than 9 months ago. Pecking Order BMW, I think you'll find nowadays and confirmed in the motoring press that BMW has been replaces by Audi. A3's are the worst followed by A5's, former privately owned and latter company owned. It would seem that the safest way to navigate all three roundabouts is to create uncertainty in the minds of the other road users - ie they think they know what you'll do, then there's the opportunity to get away with it, ie not bother to slow down, don't indicate, don't look where you're going, don't go round just go over, use the phone while operating the windscreen wipers, indicating, changing channel on the radio, opening the window to hurl abuse, eating breakfast and having a cup of coffee. Confuse them, try stopping before entering the roundabout, use the indicator, be polite and let others go first (just don't still be there at chucking out time), etc. Or if you really want to change habits, charge 50P a time for going through the centre of Liphook - free for all locals of course.

Re: Roundabouts - Jo (25th Aug 2014 - 11:01:30) I am just fed up with drivers and roadworks in liphook! There is no concern for anyone as a driver, everyone is in such a hurry and they just have to get to their destination. And these big cars should not be allowed on these small roads, it's stupid.

Re: Roundabouts - G (25th Aug 2014 - 13:09:21) Only a lighter volume of traffic will help matters. How can we force the Highways Department to change the signing of Haslemere through the centre from the A3 and send it the logical way down the straightest and less populated route from the Grayshott exit going North? does anyone else care about this topic?

Re: Roundabouts - Diane (26th Aug 2014 - 16:20:28) Think what it is going to be like with a thousand plus new houses.

Re: Roundabouts - tony (26th Aug 2014 - 18:37:37) Diane, a bit like Piccadilly Circus. Or Trafalgar Square.

Re: Roundabouts - DML (26th Aug 2014 - 18:58:08) I don't know what the answer is, but unless you don't own a car and never ever drive anywhere there's no point complaining about other drivers - we're all part of the problem.

Re: Roundabouts - Suz D (18th Sep 2014 - 14:15:07) Grrrr - about 8.30 this morning, woman with short blonde hair driving a large black 4 x 4 cut in front of me from the Square as I was ON the roundabout indicating and turning right into Longmoor Road. She was either oblivious to other road users or totally arrogant!! Rant over!

Re: Roundabouts - Richard (18th Sep 2014 - 17:18:37) And to the driver of the blue Volvo this morning on the roundabout by the chemist. When it is not your right of way, and a motorcycle is already on the roundabout exercising his right of way, do two things. Stop and Wait. Moving forward while flapping your hands is inappropriate for the circumstances and driving a Volvo does not make you immune to the laws of the road! If you are unable to see a large motorcycle right in front of your car with a large person on it, then go and have your eyesight tested. Urgently! Next time I take a picture...

Re: Roundabouts - Woo (19th Sep 2014 - 08:23:32) What annoys me is people who do not use their indicators on the roundabouts - they think you can read their minds!

Re: Roundabouts - J (19th Sep 2014 - 09:50:55) The problem is the dilemma between what is normally expected at roundabouts and what is safe. You are only supposed to indicate right if you are taking the third exit or going right the way round. At all other time, when you get to the last exit before you turn off, you should indicate left as you pass the exit before you leave the roundabout. Minis are too small to be able to perform all these things in the right order. Mini roundabout are accidents waiting to happen.

Re: Roundabouts - A. Ryan (19th Sep 2014 - 11:46:45) Sorry, but I think both mini roundabouts are self explanatory when it comes to indicating, so there is no excuse. Indicate in plenty of time before you get to the roundabout so cars can decide their manoeuvre in advance to keep traffic flowing. By the way, to the young driver in the red car who was driving on the Haslemere road yesterday at 8.25 am you could have caused a serious accident. I was doing 30 mph with a car behind me, indicated and slowed to turn into Devils Lane and I looked in my wing mirror to see this car attempt to overtake the one directly behind me. In the nick of time he realised what was happening and got back in . Please be more careful and take more notice. It is 30 mph along the Haslemere road so have some patience and stick to the speed limit.

Re: Roundabouts - peter (19th Sep 2014 - 23:42:55) I must say Liphook has its fair share, Going along Headley Road into Liphook just before the Co-op, at 30mph, overtaken (!) by a steel gray Astra van which was next seen parked on the double yellow lines/half on the payment just after the second mini roundabout heading towards the 3rd roundabout - while the driver crossed the road to the Newsagents by walking over the middle of the 2nd mini roundabout remonstrating at the traffic for getting in his way by trying to drive around him. Takes all sorts

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