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Coming off the A3 - wolfie smith (27th Apr 2014 - 16:47:25) Hi I\'m driving up and down the A3 to London a bit. Does anyone think that the slip road stops quite abruptly? Is there a history of accidents/cars over shooting when coming off the slip road? The southbound slip road taking drivers off the A3 and in to Liphook/Bramshot is quite short and I think a little dangerous. I would like to see a more of a prominent stop sign as you come over that slight brow of a hill or even a speed hump at the junction? Thanks

Re: Coming off the A3 - Mike (27th Apr 2014 - 19:08:06) Don't forget it's an A Road, not a Motorway but yes it is a bit short but "A SPEED HUMP"? It should be within the law to summarily torture and execute anyone who wishes for these evil things.

Re: Coming off the A3 - Sarah (27th Apr 2014 - 21:22:15) I have used this junction frequently in the last couple of years and never had any problems with it.. Never noticed anyone else having problems with it either. Maybe it's your driving.

Re: Coming off the A3 - Debbie (28th Apr 2014 - 07:12:04) I think you may be in for a bit of a shock if you carried on and came of at either of the next two slip roads the Griggs Green one or even worse the one after that Bordon/Greatham slip road. There at accidents at the Greatham / Bordon one on a regular basis. And also the slip road when you join the A3 southbound from Griggs Green is really short and with cars flying down the A3 at 70+ miles an hour it can be a really nightmare trying to to join the road.

Re: Coming off the A3 - wolfie smith (28th Apr 2014 - 08:44:51) Whilst I wouldn't go as far as torture I agree about speed bumps. I don't think anyone likes them. But they do a job. Where I think speed bumps work is when they're used at junctions and on pelican crossings. I have never over shot at the junction coming home into Liphook. I just think it's a little short/abrupt and could do with a way of letting motorists know that as you come over that slight hill you are reaching a T junction.

Re: Coming off the A3 - tony (28th Apr 2014 - 11:03:35) As mentioned, a lot of them are too short, especially when joining, it's hard going on your engine to get up to 70mph in 20 yards, especially on a cold morning, but anything less and you've got an artic up your backside. They were obviously designed for a time when the road was less busy, before the tunnel turned the A3 into the gateway to Europe. As for leaving the A3 at Liphook, could I suggest some of the drivers try slowing down to 70mph before you hit the slip road and try not to overtake me at 90 in the outside lane before cutting across to the slip road a few yards away, like some idiot in a Beemer did the other day! Thanks mate.

Re: Coming off the A3 - Dawn Hoskins (29th Apr 2014 - 15:23:09) I do agree that there is a problem on the slip road. It has been poorly maintained (or not maintained whatsoever) over the last decade. There are white lines on a small portion of the slipway exit but as the road bends to the left all markings and cats-eyes completely disappear. At night-time this is particularly dangerous as the edge of the road is not clear with no light and no lines and no cat-eyes. If you are a regular user and know where the road bends etc it is not so bad, but for visitors it is particularly hazardous to be on an unknown road with no markings when you have been night-blinded by the very bright lights and reflective markings on the road you have just come off. Our DC Ferris Cowper has been arguing over this issue for some time as each authority denies ownership!

Re: Coming off the A3 - liz (29th Apr 2014 - 16:13:04) Dawn The slip road was repainted about 3 years ago - after a bit of fuss including complaints on this website - perhaps it needs doing again!

Re: Coming off the A3 - Dawn Hoskins (29th Apr 2014 - 23:06:26) only the part before the bend was white-lined. they left the rest disputing ownership.

Re: Coming off the A3 - Chris (30th Apr 2014 - 20:54:36) Where does it say that you can\'t reduce your speed on the carriageway before you exit the a3 at any of these junctions. The speed limit is a limit not a target. If you reduce your speed on the straight of the carriageway when you first start to indicate at the 300 yd countdown marker then you will enter the bends of these slip roads at an appropriate speed. I agree that if you are not local they could be a little short and joining the a3 can be a bit of a lottery but it doesn\'t help if the car in front doesn\'t make progress and hesitates causing everyone behind to become a hazard whilst joining. I refuse to be left as a hazard and at risk because of someone driving too slow when joining the a3 so make sure you are at an appropriate speed when doing so. I don\'t drive a bmw tho!

Re: Coming off the A3 - betty (2nd May 2014 - 08:27:20) Everyone is talking about cars coming on and off the A3 slip roads and how short /dangerous it is. Have any off you ever driven a motorbike on or off the A3 slip roads. The amount of people who do not slow down enough to safely turn on to these slip roads is amazing. As a motorbike driver I have lost count of the amount of people who have given me near misses, who are so close I could touch the cars Who over take me on the slip road either exiting or entering the slip road, as they can not wait. If you see , a motorbike you do not have to get in front of it. If it is a big motorbike they can keep up with and over take cars. Big motorbikes have the power and speed to keep up with car drivers. You do not need to panic and have to be in front. Learn to slow down then accidents are prevented and motorcyclist is not knocked off or pushed in to ditch or embankment.

Re: Coming off the A3 - Andy (2nd May 2014 - 15:16:11) Good points Betty. Just to add to that, I ride a 125 and it does 65 to 70 mph quite comfotably on the A3 so there's no need to desperately try and get in front of even scooters on the A3. More to the point, there's no need to overtake me at 40mph in the 20mph zones in Liphook village. I'm looking out for the Golf that has done this to me twice previously and given me the bird when I've hooted him. Your details will be passed to the police next time.

Re: Coming off the A3 - Phil (2nd May 2014 - 19:35:22) Might say more about driving style if drivers are finding it difficult to slow down on the slip road ...

Re: Coming off the A3 - Huw (2nd May 2014 - 21:07:24) I ride a Motorcycle regularly on these slip roads and find it hard to believe the problems some people are having. Having made the turn off the A3, the slip road in question is (in my opinion) of a decent length and the bends force a reduction in speed until the end, where there is a wall of reflective signs to Bramshott, the Village and various Pubs to herald the end of the road. There are cats eyes at the end where the road is two-way and edge marking reflective studs all the way through, you do not get cats eyes on single Carriageways. The road markings are clear enough. As a Motorcyclist and a Car driver you are entitled to use the full width of a Carriageway and I do so regularly, not to upset people or be arrogant, but as a form of self defence. If you are running along the kerb line a car may attempt to pass you, if you take a positive stance in the road this will not happen, as there simply isn\'t the space available. Also, the road edges are usually contaminated with road debris, discarded rubbish and it\'s also where the Nail Fairy lives, so punctures are a very real possibility!! So as a rule, I generally avoid riding/driving too close to this area. I have attended several Driving courses run by the Police (not the punishment ones!!) and there seems to be a common thread, that you pay tax for the whole road so use it, try it, it works!! On the left hand corner I will be just to the right of the lane centre affording me a decent view ahead around the corner and also this leaves me in a position where I can be seen by a following car sooner as they round the bend The Size of the bike is irrelevant as the speeds on these slip roads are well within the range of most machines There are also several post test training schemes available which will demonstrate an element of advanced driving / riding skills. Available to anyone holding a Full Driving Licence. You can not of course legislate for the idiot, no one can, all you can do as a motorcyclist is make youself as visible as possible to other road users and be safe.

Re: Coming off the A3 - john (2nd May 2014 - 21:48:53) With the level of traffic on the A3 I'd like to see a motorway upgrade, what with the 55 billion a year contribution motorists make to the exchequer, but I won't hold my breathe.

Re: Coming off the A3 - A. Ryan (3rd May 2014 - 12:29:55) That's all we need, a ruddy great motorway on the outskirts of Liphook.!!. If everyone started to reduce their speed heading towards the slip road instead of entering it at high speed then slamming brakes on all the way to the end there would not be a problem. Everyone seems to be driving at breakneck speeds nowadays. Perhaps there should be a speed limit to enter a slip road, but hey, those speed freaks will think it an attack on their rights. As for overtaking a vehicle on the slip road, are you kidding? Definitely a jail sentence!!

Re: Coming off the A3 - Finchie (6th May 2014 - 23:20:44) Power to the people Wolfie ! But just to disagree (and agree with Phil) - re: the southbound exit from the A3 to Liphook - if you find the slip road too short you are going to fast ! Simples ! However, the southbound entry onto the A3 is too short. The only safe way to handle it is to turn the left corner very slowly, and give yourself a good amount of time check behind and time your acceleration enter the A3 as there is no "run in". Otherwise, if you have two vehicles side by side at 70, it could be carnage. I find that entry worse than the northbound entry for some reason. I think you really meant the southbound entry to the A3, not the southbound exit from the the A3 surely ? Although re-reading you were very specific. Worrying ! Wolfie - let us know the times you travel just so we can plan around that. A good weekend, wasn't it ?! Cheers, Finchie

Re: Coming off the A3 - MW (14th May 2014 - 13:31:32) I don't have much of a problem with the southbound exit from A3 - there is a good view over the bridge as you rise up the incline, an indication whether traffic is approaching from Bramshott. The first time I did it, I was a little disconcerted when it joined up with the slip road onto the southbound approach to the A3, but I know it now. Anyone leaving a slip road surely is aware that there will probably be a T-junction to negotiate? If anybody is interested in improving their driving might like to contact ROSPA who will provide an assessment and/or training for a very modest fee. I can't recommend it highly enough.

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