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Bikes on trains - Nick Hancock (21st Jun 2004 - 10:16:26) Read this if you ever put your bike on a train! I've just picked up a copy of a SWT leaflet saying that they are consulting with local authorities and others about further reducing the space available for bikes on trains. Has the Parish Council heard anything about this? I use a combination of train and bike. I need a bike at both ends of my train journey because of the distances involved. Travelling this way - - keeps me off the roads and reduces pollution - allows me to work whilst I travel - (he says rather smugly) has helped me lose over 3 st in weight and made me fitter than I have ever been (at 42) This brings benefits to both me and the community. I need to be able to guarantee myself and my bike a place on my choice of train. Without this I cannot use the train to travel. It has already been made more difficult by the introduction of Desiro trains, particularly the perverse arrangement which means that only half the train doors can open at Liphook. SWT have not told the general public exactly what changes they are planning to introduce. They say they are consulting with the local authorities. How can I find out whether they have said anything to the Parish Council and if so what? Nick Hancock

Re: Bikes on trains - Mike Grimes (23rd Jun 2004 - 01:30:57) Bloody good job they only open half the doors on the new Desiro trains otherwise 'those with bikes' might be tempted to disembark directly onto the track, maybe in the path of an oncoming train, on second thoughts .... You holier than thou types with your pratty helmets could lose loads of weight by doing your exercise at other than commuter hell time when many commuters have to stand for over an hour on the way to London. If you want to cycle to work, cycle to work.

Re: Bikes on trains - Alex Cameron (23rd Jun 2004 - 23:55:45) Mike oh mike....:D) Almost certainly my favourite poster. Had a bad day?

Re: Bikes on trains - Chris James (24th Jun 2004 - 15:05:00) I have not had to stand on a train all the way to London for sometime now. I beleive that the person who posted the initial thed does not travel all the way to London and I think it is a little high and mighty of the responses to assume that all who board at Liphook on the up line travel and work in the big smoke! In any event, there are two clear points raised. Firstly, If SWT intended to stop bikes travelling on trains why on earth did they order trains with bike racks? Secondly, what bright spark (I assume Mr Souter) ordered trains with electic doors that can be opened by the guard at any doorway with in the train (which is good), but can only open either all or half of the train that stand next to the platform. I.e. the first four or five cars depending on the trains makeup. Surely they could have asked the Germans to allow the Guards the option of opening selective doors - i.e. all the doors that would open on to the platform to open. Honestly, we put a man on the moon over 30 years ago!

Re: Bikes on trains - Steve (25th Jun 2004 - 08:40:12) No we didn't it was staged. There is no air on the moon yet the US flag was fluttering, big mistake. Anyway we didn't put anyone on the moon the US did, they may have electric doors that work on their trains.

Re: Bikes on trains or lunar landers - Mike Grimes (26th Jun 2004 - 00:30:49) I believe that Liphook platforms are to be extended - just in time for those longer trains to not stop there. I, also, do not believe that anyone went anywhere near the moon in 1969 or thereafter. 9 SPACE ODDITIES: 1. Apollo 14 astronaut Allen Shepard played golf on the Moon. In front of a worldwide TV audience, Mission Control teased him about slicing the ball to the right. Yet a slice is caused by uneven air flow over the ball. The Moon has no atmosphere and no air. 2. A camera panned upwards to catch Apollo 16's Lunar Lander lifting off the Moon. Who did the filming? 3. One NASA picture from Apollo 11 is looking up at Neil Armstrong about to take his giant step for mankind. The photographer must have been lying on the planet surface. If Armstrong was the first man on the Moon, then who took the shot? 4. The pressure inside a space suit was greater than inside a football. The astronauts should have been puffed out like the Michelin Men, but were seen freely bending their joints. 5. The Moon landings took place during the Cold War. Why didn't America make a signal on the moon that could be seen from earth? The PR would have been phenomenal and it could have been easily done with magnesium flares. 6. Text from pictures in the article said that only two men walked on the Moon during the Apollo 12 mission. Yet the astronaut reflected in the visor has no camera. Who took the shot? 7. The flags shadow goes behind the rock so doesn't match the dark line in the foreground, which looks like a line cord. So the shadow to the lower right of the spaceman must be the flag. Where is his shadow? And why is the flag fluttering if there is no air or wind on the moon? 8. How can the flag be brightly lit when its side is to the light? And where, in all of these shots, are the stars which from the moon's surface would appear a lot brighter than from earth? 9. The Lander weighed 17 tons yet the astronauts feet seem to have made a bigger dent in the dust. The powerful booster rocket at the base of the Lunar Lander was fired to slow descent to the moons service. Yet it has left no traces of blasting on the dust underneath. It should have created a small crater, yet the booster looks like it's never been fired.

Re: Bikes on trains - Eneida Nelson (26th Jun 2004 - 14:49:56) Well Mike! Are you suggesting that God's own country, the home of apple pie and super heroes lied to the rest of the world? Whatever next.... I suppose you'll be suggesting that John Wayne didn't win WW2 by himself or that Tony Blair isn't a straight forward, sincere sort of fellow or even that Beckham can't take penalties! I don't know what the world's coming to!!

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