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drinking in public - peter (28th Jan 2009 - 21:53:45) Can anyone tell me what the legal position is regarding drinking alcohol in a public place within Liphook as I have noted with increased regularity over quite a considerable time two or more gentlemen (and sometimes a female) sitting outside Sainsbury's, or standing under their covered way and now they seem to be using the bench next the flower bed opposite Sainsbury's, except when wet when they use the bus shelter.

Re: drinking in public - Dawn Hoskins (29th Jan 2009 - 13:09:02) It is disorderly behaviour that is actionable, not the drinking. If a person is found to be incompetant ie:don't know where they live / being a danger to themself or others / can't give their details to the police, then they can be charged. They would have to be behaving in an antisocial manner to be reported.

Re: drinking in public - Barry Hope (29th Jan 2009 - 15:20:27) Hi EHDC are currently considering the introduction of a Designated Public Place Order Report. They are gathering information of alcohol related disorder across the district. This is with a view to obtaining Designated Public Place Orders. These are alcohol control zones where police have discretionary powers to stop people drinking alcohol in public places (this excludes pub beer gardens). To see a copy of the full report produced by the Community Safety Partnership at EHDC, including a map of the proposed DPPO area for Liphook follow this link www.easthants.gov.uk/... Barry

Re: drinking in public - helen (29th Jan 2009 - 17:56:16) Yes ive seen this too. I would like to know how they can afford to do this most days when they dont work. Nice to see where my hard earned tax is going. Wish i had such luxuries!!

Re: drinking in public - Helen (29th Jan 2009 - 19:16:16) I don't think there is any need for personal insults. I saw them myself today, yes it was the middle of the day, but that doesn't mean that they are jobless! As far as I can see they are doing no harm. I have lived in Liphook my entire 31 years and I would imagine that they have lived here for longer than that as they are well known faces to me! It is the groups of young ones who can't handle alcohol that we should be worried about. And as for taxes...well that is a whole new thread I think...!

Re: drinking in public - helen (30th Jan 2009 - 12:09:52) wasnt meant as a personal insult and i know for a fact they dont work

Re: drinking in public - Dawn Hoskins (30th Jan 2009 - 14:16:54) I thought the issue was drinking in public. I am not sure what on earth this has got to do with whether people are working or not, paying tax or not, claiming benefits or not. Are they harming anyone at all? Talk about muddy the waters! Just think about all the revenue they are generating for the HMRC - along with all of you smokers. The Government needs all the cash it can get you know!!!!

Re: drinking in public - Phil McNamara (30th Jan 2009 - 22:21:04) My, my. Peter / Helen - why don't you go up to the people involved, and ask them a bit of information about themselves, then report back here what you find?

Re: drinking in public - peter (31st Jan 2009 - 10:17:24) Thanks for the feedback and information. I have now read the article in the local free paper and hope the ban will proceed. With regard to the two gentlemen I mentioned and I will say it is not only them that drink publically in Liphook, but they are, as I mentioned in there 'hangout' very frequently and I don't think they are sending out the right example to all those young people exiting Bohunt of an afternoon, standing there swigging back can after can and if the talkback is correct?? all courtesy of our benefit system! My wife and daughter give them a wide berth when walking to Sainsbury's or into the village, just because they look a bit 'unsavoury' drinking and 'necking' with a female on the bench. I think it would put alot of the older ladies that sit and wait for the shuttle too. I have never heard that they have done any harm to anyone but it just doesn't seem right - call me old fashioned - and I am not about to go up to them and question what they are up to, as suggested, I've read and seen on the news what can happen when you do that kind of thing these days!!!! My reason for bringing up the subject was just to establish what was or wasn't the legal position.

Re: drinking in public - Phil McNamara (31st Jan 2009 - 15:05:34) I think I've heard it all now. People who clearly have no real understanding of the indiividuals involved or their circumstances, have decided they are generally unsavoury and should be somehow run out of Liphook or otherwise prevented from soiling the place. Why stop there? Why not set specific criteria for who fits the "Talkback" profile of Liphook, and run everyone else out of town?

Re: drinking in public - Steve Read (31st Jan 2009 - 19:26:45) Phil, You could not have put it better, well said!

Re: drinking in public - Peter (1st Feb 2009 - 10:44:02) Thanks very much - have read and digested all the valid comments - but it comes as no great surprise to read these views - thanks to Phil and Steve - there must be a place on the failing labour government for you guys! Thanks and farewell!!

Re: drinking in public - Steve Read (1st Feb 2009 - 23:42:41) Bye bye Peter, Before I go could you explain how you would deal with families having a picnic on the Millenium Green or in the Recreation Ground complete with a glass of wine. These are public places where the children are playing whilst parents enjoy the odd glass on a summers day, just chilling out or taking in some cricket. Its still drinking in public places but probably more acceptable to you than necking a can of lager back. As for your reference to the Labour Party, how pathetic is that, mind you its probably a bit nearer to your real problem with these people out drinking in the first place.

Re: drinking in public - Dawn Hoskins (2nd Feb 2009 - 08:59:16) I don't think Peter said anything offensive, just pointing out the people he had seen. It was others that chipped in their twopenneth re: social benefits and tax.

Re: drinking in public - Chris (2nd Feb 2009 - 15:53:16) I am sure that the drinkers in question are innoffensive and not minded to cause ASBO oriented mayhem. But, I wonder how tolerant we would be if they were doing their public drinking standing right outside our shops, business premises and houses? It's not a great advert for the place we have all chosen to live in no matter how quiet the perpetrators are. Sainsburies have already moved them on from their original spot just next to the supermarket.

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