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Cllr. Ferris COWPER report to BLPC - Editor (28th Oct 2013  16:07:06) [note]REPORT TO BRAMSHOTT AND LIPHOOK PARISH COUNCIL FROM COUNTY COUNCILLOR FERRIS COWPER 28th October 2013 As usual, the Highways spreadsheet of outstanding projects is attached. 1. Highways 1.1 Traffic Survey Data. I have requested this from HCC Traffic Management. 1.2 Liphook Federated School Signage At the request of the Executive Head, I have asked for additional signs indicating the location of the school on safety and direction grounds. 1.3 Various Minor Projects A large number of smaller projects are behind schedule due to pressure on staff time. As I have said before, resourcing in Traffic Management in particular seems tight. I understand addition al temporary resources may come on stream shortly to catch up. 1.4 The Square Review I am planning to review this project with HCC officers next month. Please let me have any views you would like me to carry into this meeting. 2. Children’s Services The primary school capacity numbers are still not ready for distribution. I met with the Area Director and the relevant Assistant Corporate Director last week and I’m afraid I was still unconvinced by the numbers presented to me. This is a high priority now with both the Corporate Director, (who is also the Deputy Chief Executive) and the Cabinet member for Children’s Services. Obviously I’m disappointed at the delay but the issues I have put to officers and councillors are those that yourselves and the public would put, so I see little point in releasing any numbers until they pass those tests. 3. Liphook in Bloom I was privileged to present the “Best of the Best” award at Liphook in Bloom. The winner was Liphook Bowls Club. The event was very well run and the level of enthusiasm was very impressive. Parish Councillor Jordan played a key role in the event. 4. Passfield Letter Box I was contacted by a resident who complained that the Royal Mail posting box in Liphook Road, Passfield had disappeared and not been replaced. I’m pleased to say that after I contacted Royal Mail they agreed to replace the posting box as soon as some details had been resolved with HCC Highways. I am chasing up Hampshire Highways to respond. 5. Libraries I met the Assistant Director responsible for libraries two weeks ago. It’s clear that in general the library service is challenged by the scale of the costs and the declining numbers of users. In my division, there are permanent libraries in both Liphook and Grayshott. As with Grayshott, although there is no closure threat I feel we need to do all we can to promote use and assist with costs to avoid any such risk in the future. 6. Contact You can contact me at ferris.cowper@hants.gov.uk or on 01428-609858. Cllr. Ferris Cowper, Hampshire County Councillor for Bramshott and Liphook, Grayshott and Headley 28th October 2013[/note]

Re: Cllr. Ferris COWPER report to BLPC - Mike (28th Oct 2013  22:00:51) Regarding Liphook Federated School Signage. I'm not a fan of the over use of street furniture. I'm sure that everyone who needs to know where the school is already knows so this would be superfluous. I need convincing as to why a school of 24 classes needs three head teachers, though.

Re: Cllr. Ferris COWPER report to BLPC - Mike (28th Oct 2013  22:22:19) Whoops, make that 21 classes. I'd go back to school, but where would I park my car?

Re: Cllr. Ferris COWPER report to BLPC - Mike (28th Oct 2020  12:16:02) I've heard that Cllr Ferris Cowper has resigned from EHDC. Is this true? And if so does it have anything to do with the critical report referred to EHDC's Standards committee? And what was that about? Rumours are that it was about planning in Bordon and Liphook. Shouldn't we be told? [editor]farnhamherald.com/article.cfm?id=140188 ... Quote - "His comments to the Herald represent the first time the Tory councillor for Grayshott has spoken publicly about his abrupt removal from the council’s cabinet last month, and East Hants’ axing of his dedicated Whitehill & Bordon portfolio role."[/editor]

Re: Cllr. Ferris COWPER report to BLPC - JBS (28th Oct 2020  13:05:28) I thought that Grayshott library closed a few years ago. Is the fact that the councellor for the area still thinks that this library is still open, a measure of his local knowlege?

Re: Cllr. Ferris COWPER report to BLPC - H (28th Oct 2020  22:14:59) The report above is dated 2013. do not know why it has been resurrected now?

Re: Cllr. Ferris COWPER report to BLPC - Mike (29th Oct 2020  13:35:12) Because of the rumour that Cllr Ferris Cowper had resigned and this had something to do with the traffic arrangements in Liphook and Bordon. Mr Cowper’s name as a Councillor has been taken off EHDC’s website so he must have resigned. Does this have anything to do with the developments here?

Re: Cllr. Ferris COWPER report to BLPC - Dave (29th Oct 2020  15:11:02) I thought it was more to do with the developments at Bordon that was his portfolio

Re: Cllr. Ferris COWPER report to BLPC - Mike (29th Oct 2020  21:42:30) Let’s see what the report says if EHDC allow it to be published . Maybe it’s only about Bordon I think Ferris Cowper did his best for Liphook but was let down by others who allowed Lowsley phase 2 without a road through to Headley Road. I saw today’s article on page 3 of the Herald and was disgusted that no-one from EHDC thanked him for all that he has done.

Re: Cllr. Ferris COWPER report to BLPC - Old Resident (30th Oct 2020  10:31:49) Yes Mike Mr Cowper did his best for Liphook but EHDC Planning let us down badly they are the ones who are at fault.The Planning department seem to shut their ears to the Liphook Community. The Liphook people have told them time and time again what is needed in Liphook but they take no notice the Lowsley Park Development a prime example.Mr Cowper was the one who stood up and said that the land for the Road Through The Development should be identified before any Building takes place but it never happened. And the same goes on today Bohunt Manor Northcote Development the obvious choice for houses But only with a Road They could make this happen. But what do they do they champion the Chicken Farm which they Turned Down originally as Totally unsustainable. This is our Planning department a total mess. God Help Liphook.

Re: Cllr. Ferris COWPER report to BLPC - Mike (30th Oct 2020  11:23:28) Allowing 330 houses on Lowsley Park without a road through to Headley Road was always going to increase traffic through the Square but the developers didn’t care and neither did EHDC Planning who just wanted to meet their housing targets Ferris Cowper tried to help but developers will always get what they want until the government makes sure that roads have to be planned before the houses are built. The chicken farm is certain to get built on because the road is there already. I cannot agree with you about the Northcote Manor proposal. 600 houses there is certain to increase traffic through the centre of Liphook and would destroy the green spaces we have beside the Portsmouth and Longmoor Roads. Luckily that bit of our village is protected by the National Park and long may it remain so. We should not be fooled by Mr Northcote and Brian Cox who just want to increase their bank accounts in the British Virgin Islands or wherever. No doubt helped by their friends at EHDC.

Re: Cllr. Ferris COWPER report to BLPC - Old Resident (30th Oct 2020  12:47:34) Well Mike have to disagree with you. I think you mean less traffic through the Square with the road from Headley Road to Longmoor Road option 4 from HCC highways . It would have taken all the Haslemere Portsmouth London Traffic away from the Square .Headly Road into Liphook could have been serverly Traffic calmed. And as for Option 5 Through Bohunt Manor that also would take Traffic away from the Square it’s not rocket science if you look at a map of Liphook.All Traffic coming in on the Longmoor Road wishing to access Bohunt School the station Sainsbury’s Churchers School Portsmouth Road would not have to go through the Square. So again the Longmoor Road into Liphook Could be Traffic calmed . The hole idea of ring Roads is to take Traffic away from our Conservation Square that’s why HCC at great expense gave us 5 options for EHDC to incorporate into their Planning this has Not Happened. As for the Chicken Farm it was refused because of access the roads were just not able to cope with the Traffic and now they cannot supply the regulation sangs for the site and of course if God Forbid it does go ahead all That Traffic has to go Through The Square because we have NO Ring Roads.So you can say goodbye to Liphook.The Government are going to impose more Houses for places such as Liphook we must get them built in the right place.We have Two very good sites Bohunt Manor and Pennally Farm Hewshott. Lane they would take all of our Housing quotes for 15 to 20 years. And they are in the Right Place.

Re: Cllr. Ferris COWPER report to BLPC - Old Resident (30th Oct 2020  13:34:19) Sorry Mike miss read your post you did mean more traffic through the Square without the Road . Sorry.

Re: Cllr. Ferris COWPER report to BLPC - D (30th Oct 2020  13:35:55) Mike, what road to the chicken farm? You can only mean access through the gate which borders the Berg estate.

Re: Cllr. Ferris COWPER report to BLPC - Joe (30th Oct 2020  19:24:31) I do think that the only problems around the square are at school peak drop off and pick up time. Our councillors all know traffic is bad everywhere. The SDNPA will not allow a road through their land for a new housing development as there is no urgent need for houses in the Park. Plenty of houses being built at Bordon.

Re: Cllr. Ferris COWPER report to BLPC - D (30th Oct 2020  21:43:55) I agree with Joe. No amount of road improvements will solve the problem of school traffic obstructing The Avenue/Headley Road junction. Make the little fatties walk and solve childhood obesity at the same time.

Re: Cllr. Ferris COWPER report to BLPC - D (30th Oct 2020  22:14:11) Joe, I'm still on the lookout for a picture of the Anchor Annex for you. Must be one somewhere, hard to believe nobody took a picture of it in the three hundred odd years it stood. I did see it in a painting many years ago but that person passed on long since.

Re: Cllr. Ferris COWPER report to BLPC - Old (31st Oct 2020  11:31:50) Well Joe I think you need to stand in the square any day especially this week schools off and see the amount of traffic going through the square. See Sainsbury’s thread.We need to plan for the future.10 15 20 years what will it be like. If we do nothing then we lose our lovely square which is the most important thing for our survival against becoming a dormitory Town. Much more can be said on this subject but time is running out. Yes D The Avenue is Horrendous at School Time it is used as a link Road to Longmoor Road. The Council have been asked many times to put a 7.5 tonne limit on it but wait for it they say they have not got the money for the two small signs at each end so they still have 40 tonne Lorries going through.Tower Road has them Bramshott had lovely new signage and they don’t have two Schools on them. If you want to go further the signs on the North A3 junction directing Traffic Through Liphook for Haslemere witch should have been changed when the Hindhead Tunnel was finished have never been done . All Haslemere Traffic should go to Hindhead 2 more miles up the Road but again HCC Highways say they don’t have the money to do it. One aerosol can to spray out the name as they have done on the South Side. One new plate screwed on the up side. All this is so Laughable it makes you cry.

Re: Cllr. Ferris COWPER report to BLPC - D (31st Oct 2020  13:21:02) Old, term time at 08:30hrs the Haslemere Road traffic is at a standstill beyond Malthouse Meadows. Headley Road traffic beyond Tower Road. Old A3 beyond the rec. No such traffic volume in school holidays.

Re: Cllr. Ferris COWPER report to BLPC - Joe (31st Oct 2020  14:41:08) Liphook will not be saved from becoming a dormitory town by having a huge housing estate and dual carriageway in the National Park . It is the historic buildings which are worth saving and that is what we need to remember, this is why it was designated a conservation area in the 70s. Plus Oldie you are not in the majority holding your views.

Re: Cllr. Ferris COWPER report to BLPC - Old Resident (31st Oct 2020  17:52:00) Sorry I missed Resident off my post. Joe how do you know that I am not in the Majority to want to put houses in the right place. Especially to save our historical Square. The only way to do that is to limit Traffic in the Square and to do that we have to have ring Roads. And to do that we have to have Developers put them in with Houses we relied on EHDC to do that but they failed. So if the Liphook People don’t want to save our Square so be it. I stand by my statement the Square IS very busy all the time just as it was when the A3 past through.Its a shame that people don’t want to plan for the Future.It won’t bother me I won’t be here but my children grandchildren and great grandchildren will be and I would like to think that Liphook will still be a lovely place to live. I have said my bit no more to say have a nice day.

Re: Cllr. Ferris COWPER report to BLPC - Joe (31st Oct 2020  18:50:17) I think you are mistaken to think the square is " at risk" we could all use our cars less and then problem solved. There is another lockdown coming no one will be allowed to go anywhere so less cars on the road.

Re: Cllr. Ferris COWPER report to BLPC - D (31st Oct 2020  19:35:53) Old Resident, the square is nowhere near as busy as it was when the A3 went through. During the "school run" yes, but not the rest of the time. Definitely not.

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