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Recycling in Liphook - RIL (11th Sep 2013 - 07:56:15) Does anyone have knowledge of plans to improve what we can recycle here in Liphook? I have just moved here from Hindhead where you can recycle items such as Tetra Paks, yoghurt pots and margarine tubs!! Seems odd that we can't do the same just down the road!!

Re: Recycling in Liphook - A. Ryan (11th Sep 2013 - 10:09:05) Sainsury's have facilities for recycling most plastics, including margarine tubs, yogurt pots, etc. How long it will remain is another matter. The only thing we lack is an aluminium recycling bin, and considering the amount of takeaways we have in Liphook one is really needed.

Re: Recycling in Liphook - RIL (11th Sep 2013 - 11:51:27) Oh, thanks for that!! I didn't realise Sainsburys offered that service!! Will be heading there with my plastics in future!! However, it would be lovely to have them collected 'kerbside'!!

Re: Recycling in Liphook - Mike (11th Sep 2013 - 11:56:57) Hindhead is in Waverley, Surrey and the recycled waste is sent to Southark MRF (after consolidation in Alton.) Liphook is in East Hampshire and the recycled waste is sent to a similar facility in Portsmouth. Clearly the two facilities can process a different range of substances but I doubt that any one with knowledge of development plans at Portsmouth MRF would read Talkback.

Re: Recycling in Liphook - Binny (11th Sep 2013 - 16:44:45) East Hants pay council tax similar to Waverley, why can't we have more kerbside recycling in EH as they have in Waverley and more in other parts? Would bottom-up pressure work? How about residents go ‘criminal’ and add what should really be collected curbside to our domestic recycling bins? Will then someone up the sorting facility hierarchy realise the need for more recycling options? Dare to dream...

Re: Recycling in Liphook - Eddie (11th Sep 2013 - 18:54:27) Recycling is rubbish, it is not cost effective, people massage the figures to try and show that there are benefits, but it is cheaper and easier to put all the rubbish in one bin and send it to the landfill sites. There is not a shortage of sites, plenty of valleys around that could be filled up. It didn't do any harm in Radford Park -did it? how about filling in the devils Punch Bowl now that we don't have to drive past it.

Re: Recycling in Liphook - Sarah (11th Sep 2013 - 20:32:09) I too recently moved from Waverley to East Hants and I very much miss the recycling and food collections that we previously enjoyed (we put very little in our traditional rubbish bin). Unfortunately this all boils down to the contracts that the Council's get... East Hants used to be streets ahead in the recycling stakes, but now lag behind. I understand that the current contract has a fair few years to run, whether it could be amended would be another matter. Its worth discussing with your local Councillor to encourage them to make changes. From memory the changes to the Waverley scheme had little (if any) cost to the taxpayer, and I think may have saved money!

Re: Recycling in Liphook - liz (12th Sep 2013 - 12:07:33) Eddie You can't do that - the punchbowl is being preserved for fracking.

Re: Recycling in Liphook - Mike (12th Sep 2013 - 12:24:48) The Waverley waste food collection is interesting. After collection and consolidation it is sent by road to a processing facility in Bedfordshire. I'm not sure what the end product is but it does not sound very environmentally friendly to me. The problem with landfill is, we keep getting told, the length of time certain substances take to break down. Waste food would be one of the quickest.

Re: Recycling in Liphook - Binny (12th Sep 2013 - 17:35:44) Hi Mike, Let’s remember that recycling is not just one more waste solution. By definition recycling is a resource in a reality of finite dwindling (increasingly expensive) resources. Recycled products thus enjoy this added sustainability value or green credentials, so a few more extra road miles don’t necessarily make them environmentally unfriendly. Think what the alternatives are… Recycling in itself isn’t a comprehensive waste solution. Two more R’s: Reduction (produce less waste or less bulk) and Reuse (secondary and alternative use of unprocessed waste). Waste can also be part of an array of sustainable energy resources. The problems with landfill are many; some are more obvious than others.

Re: Recycling in Liphook - RIL (12th Sep 2013 - 22:31:54) What happened at Radford Park in relation to landfill?

Re: Recycling in Liphook - Nick Hancock (13th Sep 2013 - 06:59:28) The Hants recycling facility was state of the art when it was built. For years we had kerbside recycling that Waverley could only dream of. Of course now Surrey has its own facility and ours has fallen behind. Jane, is there a way to put pressure on E Hants to improve - particularly Tetra Bricks (as Sainsburys do do a lot of plastics)? Packaging must account for about 80% of our non recyclable waste. My Aussie sister is appalled by the volume of packaging that we get in UK supermarkets. (Not sure we in E Hants pay Council Tax to Waverley by the way. I thought we were in different counties!)

Re: Recycling in Liphook - Eneida Nelson (13th Sep 2013 - 11:53:44) I think the recycling arrangements in Liphook are just fine as they are. After all, we already have 2 large wheelie bins, a container for glass and a garden sack. If you add any more, as some areas have, where are people supposed to keep all these contraptions if they have no access to the back garden except through their houses? ...on the pavement obstructing people walking past that's where!! Whilst we do recycle as much as feasible, there's absolutely no way I would have some sort of 'slop bucket' with food in various stages of decay in my kitchen, stinking and attracting flies etc. especially in hot weather!! I can't imagine how that's supposed to help the planet...and I don't want any patronising lectures about 'green credentials' thank you very much :)

Re: Recycling in Liphook - tony (13th Sep 2013 - 19:13:18) RIL You're sounding a little obsessive. I thought the green rubbish bin was for rubbish and the brown one for whatever rubbish didn't get taken last week. (Don't panic, I'm kidding). Do you really worry about which plastic can be recycled at which facility, I just bung the cardboard and plastic in and let them decipher it. About Radford Park, it was apparently the village refuse site, (before my time), and what a wonderful transformation. Landfill can be reused in this way, just look at the Welsh mining valleys. It seems we can build millions of new homes across miles of Britain but can't find a field for landfill. So we worry about it, spend hours scrubbing up our cans of baked beans (sometimes I'm too exhausted to do the proper washing up)and washing our plastic milk bottles (oh, the wasted water) so they can be stuck in a container and sent to landfill in China. Out of sight is out of mind. I've often wondered if this is a kind of modern day madness.

Re: Recycling in Liphook - A. Ryan (13th Sep 2013 - 21:28:25) Well Tony, with your take on recycling as the saying goes "we haven't got a hope in hell!" I take it you really do not care. But please do not insult those that do want to try to help. As for plastics, our dear old Council only take certain types, so some of us instead of chucking it in the bin with a hey ho attitude like to find out where we can get it recycled. Maybe a bit like hard work but some think it is worth it, so please don't be so patronising .Even better ,the rubbish bin can fit a full size adult!

Re: Recycling in Liphook - tony (14th Sep 2013 - 09:53:35) A.Ryan I didn't insult anyone, it's called sarcasm and it's a type of humour. "we haven't got a hope in hell!" hope in hell of what? The planet's not going to die if I accidentally put a tub of the wrong margarine in my recycling bin, having failed to study up on my plastics! Anyway, as a risk analysis statement, it's a hysterical overreaction. Maybe they should make recycling plastics a bit simpler, standardise things. Or can our eco warriors not get their act together? "Even better ,the rubbish bin can fit a full size adult! " A.Ryan, have you tried it then? Now please sit back down and put the kettle on, mine\'s a cup of raspberry fruit tea.

Re: Recycling in Liphook - May Li (14th Sep 2013 - 11:41:01) and there I was under the impression we did not have a land fill site for our rubbish from Liphook but that it went for incineration somewhere now where did I get that nugget of information from ???

Re: Recycling in Liphook - Diane (15th Sep 2013 - 11:12:44) I'me confused. Can you recycle Tetra packs i.e. drinks and milk containers at Sainsburys, if not ,where?

Re: Recycling in Liphook - Bini (15th Sep 2013 - 17:14:37) As in many of this forums' threads, it's not about saving the world, it's about caring. Eco-issues sort out those who care for themselves, others in the future or far away - from those who care only for themselves here and now. Diane, if we don't send our "illegal" but recyclables items to the sorting facility, how will they know we need those recycled? People Power? Bottom-up pressure...

Re: Recycling in Liphook - Phil (24th Mar 2021 - 19:23:58) Sainsbury’s have closed their bottle bank and we have been advised that the glass collection lorry can’t get down Woolmer lane Does anyone know where the nearest bottle bank is?

Re: Recycling in Liphook - John (24th Mar 2021 - 22:24:06) I agree it should all be made a lot simpler, standardised plastic and one bin to put it all into and let them sort it out, we pay a lot of tax for it and they end up making money out of the recycling process in the end (if they are efficient) I also can’t help think that this “doing our bit” is rather like turning up to a nuclear bomb with a dust pan and brush, I strongly doubt us washing yogurt pots and putting them in a special bin is making much difference with factories pumping chemicals into the air and trees getting cut down, it’s always the little men us having to work hard to repair it when big business and money gets to do what it wants and not pay tax on it

Re: Recycling in Liphook - Jen (24th Mar 2021 - 23:49:18) You can't standardise plastic, John, because different types of plastics are used for different purposes - and the problem with recycling is that there are different processes for each type. Very little (I think it's less than 10%) of Hampshire's non-recyclable waste goes to landfill. Most of it is incinerated and the heat is used to generate steam, which generates electricity that is fed back into the grid. I recall reading somewhere (maybe it was on HCC website) that the energy generated is sufficient to supply 53,000 homes.

Re: Recycling in Liphook - Anne (25th Mar 2021 - 08:16:54) You can take glass to Tesco at Bordon. They have bins next to the car wash facility (I used it the other day). Sainsbury's are in the process of changing contractors so the bottle bank will be coming back.

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