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Fracking programme on BBC1 tonight - Keith (9th Sep 2013 - 11:49:36) For anyone interested, BBC South's Inside Out programme tonight (Monday 9th Sept) at 7.30pm on BBC1 has the whole programme dedicated to fracking. (if you are on Sky or Virgin Media this is a regional programme on BBC1 so make sure you watch channel 101 and not the BBC HD channel).

Re: Fracking programme on BBC1 tonight - bdavies (10th Sep 2013 - 01:52:25) Ed Davey, Energy Minister, advises that fracking in the UK will not reduce our energy bills. www.frackfreefernhurst.com/news/... If he doesn't think it will then that pretty much says it all! Mr Davey said that only in the event of "huge Europe-wide shale gas production" might there be "downward pressures on gas prices strong enough to offset fast rising demand".

Re: Fracking programme on BBC1 tonight - Mike (10th Sep 2013 - 10:55:30) In that case, how will this fast rising demand be met without fracking? The supply & demand argument cuts both ways. If known sources are not exploited then the gas price will rise dramatically.

Re: Fracking programme on BBC1 tonight - liz (10th Sep 2013 - 11:08:38) Realistically, any contribution from the UK is likely to be insignificant in terms of European pricing even if best estimates are realised.

Re: Fracking programme on BBC1 tonight - bdavies (10th Sep 2013 - 12:37:01) The government wants Britain to be self-sufficient in energy supply, gas and electricity. Now the Geological Society is reported as saying that the type of shale under us in the south is not the sort that is easily accessible for fossil fuel extraction and will not yield the quantities required to help to do this, let alone cheaply and with the minimum of environmental impact. If supply of energy is to increase, there are alternatives that will allow us to be self-sufficient such as renewables (even hydrogen, because we are not just talking about domestic demand; industrial energy requirements have seen increased research into hydrogen production as an alternative). However, to be self-sufficient we will have to break away from the obligation of our current global supply and procurement contracts. And to satisfy demand via shale gas AND REDUCE PRICES, other countries in the EU need to agree production quotas not just the UK but so far the trend is towards banning fracking - France for example has already taken this action.

Re: Fracking programme on BBC1 tonight - tony (10th Sep 2013 - 12:43:30) Can anyone confirm where exactly the Fernhurst Fracking site is located? I've been told it's actually at the end of the road that passes through Lynchmere, down past the the church and Shulbrede Priory, land that effectively adjoins Hollycombe. If so, that's really a lot closer to Liphook than you may realise. I mention this because when they drill down into a fracking well, they then turn their drills horizontally and I've read that they can drill a mile or more in either direction. The contaminated water spoil can then leak into the surrounding rock and pollute underground water supplies. Millions of gallons of high pressure water are pumped underground (from the mains supply, hence water meters and future water shortages) mixed with a number of undisclosed (trade secret) chemicals, discovered by environmentalist groups in the US to contain Benzene (cancer causing) arsenic amongst others. So, that's why they want to truck the chemicals in by HGV lorries through Liphook (we're talking a LOT of Arsenic etc every day). The government (understandably) thinks the revenue outweighs the risks, but I notice they won't allow it into their own constituencies! I just think we need a proper national debate before allowing Fernhurst, Lynchmere, Milland and Liphook to be the guinea pigs!

Re: Fracking programme on BBC1 tonight - bdavies (10th Sep 2013 - 12:58:42) It advises it on the Fernhurst web site I think. If not then contact them and they will advise. www.facebook.com/FernhurstAgainstFracking

Re: Fracking programme on BBC1 tonight - Gassy (10th Sep 2013 - 14:31:54) Let’s clarify. Fossil fuel isn’t sustainable; it is not long-term and is high impact. Fossil fuel people with their affiliated politicians and financiers are concerned with a quick buck, here and now. The future and other people are of little value. We have become conditioned to think in terms of higher demand necessarily means we need to increase supply. There is another way. We can halt or reduce demand with unaffected or improve quality of life. Sustainable high quality of life is possible thanks to science and technology (not publicised nor funded enough). Science and technology have, against the odds (research funds abound for the fossil fuel industry), given us the choice. Think of the immense efforts, resources and compromises involve in fossil fuels from research and exploration to pollution wars and road accidents. If only more of this investment went for sustainable technology… We know fracking fossil gas is: short-term, will not make gas cheaper to us, will make water dearer, will affect traffic, will pollute, and will not create much local employment or revenue. No brainer.

Re: Fracking programme on BBC1 tonight - Rob (10th Sep 2013 - 15:48:16) Well that is that settled then. No point in having a debate. Ban fracking and fossil fuels outright. We'll have to build lots of nuclear power stations to generate electricity for making hydrogen and to heat and light peoples homes. That is why the French don't give a damn about fracking, they hardly use gas. They had the foresight to build a vast nuclear power infrastructure that satisfies nearly all of their power requirements.

Re: Fracking programme on BBC1 tonight - Gassy (11th Sep 2013 - 06:15:53) One additional point when it comes to sustainable energy resources: they are diverse. We should never rely on a single source. Science and technology have provided a wide menu to select and MIX from (the fossil lobby attempt to hide those from us). One of the common ‘arguments’ of the fossil lobby is that if we don’t go for their controversial solution we shall all be plunged into an immediate darkness…. Scare mongering or what?!? Real solutions are to be found in research, sustainability, diversification, modified smart consumption and progress. Any starker contrast with those of the fake solutions proposed by the out-dated fossil short-term quick fixes

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