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square closure - iwik61 (6th Sep 2013 - 22:37:29) Is it right that the square is shut 7pm till 7am most of this weekend caught me out tonight did not see that coming!

Re: square closure - Finchie (7th Sep 2013 - 01:47:10) Don't get me started ...,, So I get the train back to the station at 8.05pm and have a beautiful evening planned with Finchess and Finchlets which involves picking up a takeaway at the Maduhbhan. Not going to happen. Am I being unreasonable ? I would have expected at least from this morning BIG RED signs saying "LIPHOOK SHUT TONIGHT FROM 8pm until xyz". Had a nice pleasant chat with the man in charge "Tim nice but dim" from Amec. Apparently I should have known about tonight 7 weeks ago and it is my problem. I then go around to every yellow sign around Liphook that gives me a date and NO OTHER INFORMATION. Now I don't know about you, but I have seen yellow signs for the last few weeks, read them, but they are now a bit like Internet ads, I know they are there but the brain filters them out. Get this. "Tim" then tells me it is well signposted on the A3. Well then I tell him I don't give a flying fly about the A3. I'm just trying to get from the station north of Liphook !! "Tim" then blames the situation on "management". Now I don't know who takes responsibility here but yet again common sense disappears. No doubt, as tax payers, or vehice excuse duty ;-), we've funded a gazillion leaflets, but 4 clear signs would have been great. Even the Madhuban, 2 meters away from road weren't informed of the activity tonight. Frustrating weekend ahead, Finchie

Re: square closure - Editor (7th Sep 2013 - 07:14:25) From previous thread and linked to from Liphook events page .... Re: road works - Editor (22nd Jul 2013 11:00:33) Re-surfacing dates Friday 6th September 7pm to 7am roads closed - Liphook Square, Portsmouth Rd and Haslemere Rd. Saturday 7th September 7am to 7pm roads closed - Liphook Square, Portsmouth Rd and Haslemere Rd. Sunday 8th September 7am to 7pm - Longmoor Rd, Headley Rd and London Rd. Saturday 14th September 7am to 7pm - Haslemere Road and Midhurst Rd. Sunday 15th September 7am to 7pm - Haslemere Road and Midhurst Rd. Contact information All changes to scheduled dates will be made clear on the yellow boards. You can call 0845 603 5633 to check when work is being carried out.

Re: square closure - Finchie (7th Sep 2013 - 08:17:40) Appreciate you put that info up there Ed. and don't get me wrong, a mate pointed out that there was a sign up at Liphook station (albeit a small A4 sheet). I did read it 6 weeks ago. Shame on me I didn't remember that 8pm on the 6th was the date and time. Honestly, even from your note I wouldn't have realised those roads mean LIPHOOK IS CLOSED AND YOU CAN'T GO FROM NORTH TO SOUTH OR VICE VERSA and I'm local. But my point is a BIG RED SIGN on the day, stating the obvious would have helped. It would have helped for ANY car travelling through Liphook and probably having to make a return journey. Much as I love liphook.co.uk talkback, if you surveyed all drivers going through Liphook, I suspect only a very small percentage read this. Much of the traffic is going from a to b where a or b is not Liphook. Anyway rant over. I need to spend time figuring out how I spend a morning retrieving my car from the Riser and getting it back home ! Cheers for now, Finchie

Re: square closure - Phil (7th Sep 2013 - 10:08:21) I'm with you Finchie, and its time for my rant now! I just can't believe how badly communicated all the closures have been. Why on earth is the new surface being ripped up a few days after going down? The signage is woeful - yes it tells you the road is closed when you are 1 metre or less from the closure. The advance warning signs are ambivalent at best, and they don't explain which road or exactly which junction is closed - important facts as we might expect to get close to the works then pop down an inside road. Absolute fail for the Highways Agency on this one. And another thing! Traffic chaos for weeks, village closed off from the world - for what, exactly? All I can see are the occasional trenches on some of the roads whereas the flyer seemed to indicate huge sections of resurfacing. Fine so the square was resurfaced - all of which is now in a dumper truck at this very moment. It's a complete joke. It has wasted all our time, inconvenienced us all, and wasted fuel with the stupid diversions via Nottingham as far as I can tell. Fail, fail, fail.

Re: square closure - Ian (7th Sep 2013 - 10:50:38) Hear hear Finchie!! Another unexpected and unannounced detour of 26-30 miles to get from Haslemere Road to Stanford and back again! I should have realised fred karno had gotten a job with HCC after the debacle last month!

Re: square closure - Chris (7th Sep 2013 - 14:30:32) they need more signs saying "Sainsburys open as usual" !!!

Re: square closure - A. Ryan (7th Sep 2013 - 15:10:55) I have been very sceptical about these so called roadworks. It seems to me that a lot of the work has been done around manhole covers and drain areas. Would this have anything to do with the water board putting in meters ? The timing of both is the same. Or more worrying preparing the way for fracking? I had assumed that the length of time and disruption it has caused to the people of Liphook we would have had new roads the length and breadth of the village.

Re: square closure - Jay W (7th Sep 2013 - 15:41:22) Don't think that will help anyone Chris, unless they explain that to get to Sainsburys you will have to find a route other than across The Square. This morning cars coming up from the A3 past Radford Park were met with the "Road Ahead Closed" sign by Tower Road. Some chose to disbelieve this and carry straight on up the road and had to turn round and come back again. If it had said "Liphook Square closed, no through route" it would have helped more. If they had advised motorists access was only via Liss or Haslemere that would have given a bit more indication - but why make things easy when you can cause chaos? So the traffic then struggles up Tower Road (no pre-planning to prevent parking along that road in light of the traffic that would be forced to use it) and at the top there is a sign to the left proclaiming "Liphook Businesses Open as Usual" - nothing else. So the traffic heads off up the Headley Road and guess what? They have to turn around again. I've seen large lorries, horse boxes, queues of cars all struggling with the speed bumps and parked cars in Tower Road then having to find turning spots in Headley Road. Sounds like the rest of the village is in as much chaos.

Re: square closure - Eneida (7th Sep 2013 - 17:30:45) I believe the end of the Headley Road is now open to the Square...a bollard removing truck beeped past a few minutes ago... :)

Re: square closure - Phil (7th Sep 2013 - 18:51:46) I hear that the debacle was caused by accidental surfacing of a drain / manhole / sewer cover. Cue digging up new roads and chaos for unsuspecting locals.

Re: square closure - Tina (7th Sep 2013 - 20:53:31) I have driven miles to get my son to work at old thorns from the Portsmouth Road. My original letter says its should have been tomorrow that the longmoor road, headley road and London road should be closed, and today it should have been the Haslemere Road and Portsmouth Road. Have I missed this changing or do the actual men doing the work have no idea which road closures residents have been informed of. I think it's the only village that has to close down for so long to re surface, and that hasn't even happened yet. Lots of mess, lots of men, lets hope it's worth the in convince. Liphook businesses might be open as usual if anyone coud get o them. There is very little warning from the A3 signage is very poor. Went into Liphook Travel today and yet again there forecourt became a turning circle for motorist which is causing lots of damage but of course contractors want no responsibility for any repairs.

Re: square closure - Richard (8th Sep 2013 - 14:05:03) Daft question this, but why didn't you drop your son in the square and ask him to walk the remainder? It is not very far.

Re: square closure - Geoff Heath (8th Sep 2013 - 16:50:55) We drove up from Gosport on Saturday to see my wife's very ill father and there were absolutely no signs on the A3 indicating a square closure. We needed to get from Longmoor road to opposite Sainsburys. It took about an hour! Someone needs a rollicking.

Re: square closure - iwik61 (8th Sep 2013 - 18:28:02) Richard, dont you know that youngsters are made of candy floss and if it rains or gets too hot they melt.!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: square closure - Eb (8th Sep 2013 - 19:03:09) I think Tina meant collect from work which would have been very late and not a nice or safe walk. And I think the sudden road closure was the point of the comment.

Re: square closure - Richard (8th Sep 2013 - 21:21:37) Bicycle? Builds character and fitness

Re: square closure - Tina (8th Sep 2013 - 21:30:51) Thanks eb you are right, I am a responsible parent who likes to know where their teenage son is, which is what parenting is all about. He finishes very late and I wouldn't want him walking from there and it wasn't my point. It was the road closure which is what this thread is about not having ago about youth of today, don't tar them all with the same brush some of them are ok kids!!

Re: square closure - Dan (8th Sep 2013 - 21:42:18) Hi Richard and 'iwik', Was just posting to say that the old thorns to the square is hardly a short, nice walk at night. I do believe that Tina's post was about the lack of signs in Liphook linked to the road closures not how her son can't walk as 'he will melt'. I do believe that your perception of teenagers was completely invalid towards this talkback entry.

Re: square closure - Rachel (8th Sep 2013 - 22:13:20) I have to agree with Richard! Why can't people walk! I am disabled but do not have a car! I walk all the way (very slowly) along the Longmoor road to get to Sainsbury or even the train station. If I can manage it (ok, it is a slow struggle) why can't fit young men? Alternatively, can people not park on one side of the road works and walk the last little bit?

Re: square closure - Rob (9th Sep 2013 - 10:36:48) The real problem is that the square is the only link from one side of the village to the other. I'm beginning to wonder if some sort of a bypass wouldn't be a bad idea..... It really isn't that much of a life changing experience to have the square closed for day and a night. The Longmoor road roundabout wasn't resurfaced the previous time and was this time. Don't think they re-surfaced the square this time but they did that and the Portsmouth road roundabout when those were shut before.

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