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Inconsiderate and lazy dog owners - Kate Taylor (3rd Sep 2008 - 10:56:09) I have just walked my son to school for his first day. It would have been nice to spend a few minutes helping him sort out where to hang his coat, bag etc and generally settling in. Instead, I find myself helping him change his socks and clean his shoes as he has managed to tread in some of the all too frequent dog excrement encountered on the pavements around the outskirts of the village. Not something either of us want to deal with straight after breakast. Of course if the Council swept the pavements more frequently it might be easier to work out what was mud and what was dog poo, but that's not really the point. If you can't be bothered to clear up after your dog properly (and you know who you are) you might at least make sure it defecates in the gutter or on the grass verge, and not where other people expect to walk. And if I catch the dog that takes a detour from the footpath into our back garden to do its business, I shall deliver dog and mess back to its owner personally!

Re: Inconsiderate and lazy dog owners - Helen (3rd Sep 2008 - 13:37:14) The rec football pitches are no different the dogs do their business on there ready for the players to play in, and the owners leave it,there are plenty of doggy bins around to put it in.

Re: Inconsiderate and lazy dog owners - Dawn Hoskins (5th Sep 2008 - 16:09:45) I agree, this is an unacceptable situation. It is not difficult to clean up after your dog and the consequences are quite disgusting when it is left on pavements. The problem is that although we can see the 'product' left behind, we mostly don't see the culprit. I suspect that these animals are roaming without their owners, or being taken out at night when owners don't think they will be seen. Certainly, I can't think of a single person that would remain silent if they saw an owner letting their dog poo on the pavement without removing it - so unless we can catch them and report them - I just don't know how it can be sorted out. Clearly their consciences are not working properly.

Re: Inconsiderate and lazy dog owners - Anony Mous (5th Sep 2008 - 21:37:18) i'd just like to mention that Radford park is not a dog's toilet but there is a dog-bin by the gate. I just hate having dog's mess every few yards

Re: Inconsiderate and lazy dog owners - Dave L (7th Sep 2008 - 21:33:35) I would like to disagree, Radford Park IS a dog toilet, daily they..(cant be locals can it?) park in the access drive on the London Road, open the car door and get their exercise watching pooch doing his business whilst sitting in the comfort of their motor, obviously not wanting to walk through the gate as they know what they will walk in!.

Re: Inconsiderate and lazy dog owners - Dawn Hoskins (9th Sep 2008 - 10:47:07) Hi Dave I wonder if you could take the odd photo or two of these people, to give to the dog warden as evidence? It would be a great help.

Re: Inconsiderate and lazy dog owners - Eneida (9th Sep 2008 - 15:08:38) Dawn, I'm being perfectly serious now...would it be legal to take a picture of someone without their permission nowadays? Eneida

Re: Inconsiderate and lazy dog owners - Dawn Hoskins (9th Sep 2008 - 21:48:08) Yes There is no such thing as a right to privacy in this country. Sucessful cases (such as Catherine Zeta Jones') have turned mainly on trespass and breach of contract etc. So, if - in order to take a photo you had to sneak into someones garden or climb their apple tree there would be a problem. Also, if the dog poo owner had already contracted to sell pictures of his dog 'in action' to OK magazine - but HELLO magazine hid in a bush and took photos - the rights to which were exclusively and contractually promised to OK, then there would be a problem. However, on a public street - there is nothing stopping anyone taking any photos. In polite circles you would of course ask permission - but if you asked the dog poo owner if he would mind you taking photos to be used in evidence against him - I don't think he would say yes anyway! Dawn

Re: Inconsiderate and lazy dog owners - Eneida (10th Sep 2008 - 10:00:23) Hi Dawn, I know you're an expert on legal matters, so the fact that you say it's legal to take any photo in a public place must include any that show children. In this particular case, for instance, one of a child with a pooing dog! It just shows what a lot of confusion and panic there is nowadays, probably spread by the media and Councils, about what you can and can't (innocently) do in public..... Eneida

Re: Inconsiderate and lazy dog owners - Dawn Hoskins (10th Sep 2008 - 12:36:07) Hi Eneida I must include a caveat to the note above. Any photographing of children needs to be thought about carefully. On public property there is no ‘out and out’ prohibition of taking a photo of a minor, however, in summer when the very young are wearing clothes which often reveal tummies etc. then you should think twice. The protection offered minors by the Rights of the Child legislation are very far reaching and if you ever have to think ‘would this be OK’ – then it will usually not be!! Of course, once you get to burly teenagers you are out of the other side of the danger zone (and into another one completely!!) Never take a photo of any minor in their own home/garden or that of any other person without a) their knowledge b) their parents knowledge. It is unlikely that minors would be out taking dogs for walks on their own, and if they are then that is a matter of parenting skills that should possibly be challenged, especially if it is at night.

Re: Inconsiderate and lazy dog owners - Eneida (10th Sep 2008 - 15:29:03) Hi Dawn, Sorry, this is a bit off topic, but since we're talking about children in parks I'd be interested in your opinion on this story. It's about Telford Council ordering park wardens to stop and interrogate adults walking about in a local park not accompanied by children!! I totally agree that children should be protected from child molesters, but can't help thinking that in so many of these rules under the Child Protection Act common sense has flown out of the window in the UK. Do these rules actually save children from real evil or just confuse and scare off 'good' people from interacting with children in the way they used to when I was a child? www.dailymail.co.uk/.. Eneida

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