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fracking liphook - a worried local (21st Aug 2013 - 16:43:35) This Sunday I was coming along Tunbridge Lane and had to stop to let 2 large lorries pass ..... it was 03:30 ...they were loaded with large bits of what looked like drilling bits and bobs... is this something that anyone knows about ? thanks B Ewing

Re: fracking liphook - terry (22nd Aug 2013 - 11:52:41) Bobby is that you? This sounds like something your brother J R might be behind?

Re: fracking liphook - Sue Ellen (24th Aug 2013 - 07:50:49) Sssh Bobby, don't post about your early morning movements. JR might suspect something. Looking forward to the weekend ;-) Sue Ellen x PS there was a geological survey a while back (seems like about a year ago). Miles of cables and sensors in bramshott and locality. Not sure of the outcome, but our cesspit is getting darker and there seem to be funny smells near the river. I just thought it was JR ageing.

Re: fracking liphook - MC (29th Aug 2013 - 20:47:33) I'm glad people find this subject so funny. Please let me know how you feel when the fracking begins nearby and your water bills go up - if there is any left - and your roads are clogged with huge lorries while you're trying to get through Liphook. This is definitely NOT a joke.

Re: fracking liphook - Finchie (30th Aug 2013 - 21:12:22) I think there will be serious replies when there is more evidence than a lorry with \"what looked like drill bits \" spotted in the early hours ! Not read much about this, so please educate me. Isn\'t the serious bit the extra heavy traffic through Liphook though on the way to/from Fernhurst ? I\'m happy to chain myself naked to something in the middle of the village. Just compiling my list of people who should join me. Cheers, Finchie

Re: fracking liphook - tony (8th Sep 2013 - 14:42:27) The road works around the square shows how easy it would be to block lorries from coming through the village centre. If they want to run hundreds of fracking lorries full of arsenic and other (often trade secret) chemicals through the square then all we need to protest is one poorly parked car. It will be chaos. Already you find that lorries have to mount to very narrow pavement by Haslemere Road if there's traffic queuing the other way, which is unsafe. It would be a nuisance to everyone, but I think just the threat of repeatedly blocking that one access point would scare them off! Or how about banning lorries altogether from the square, unless delivering to Liphook? There's no need for Liphook Square to be a lorry route to anywhere, what with the A3 and tunnel!

Re: fracking liphook - iwik61 (8th Sep 2013 - 18:35:00) so how would you propose that sainsburys or knights transport get around .Dont think that you would do your weekly shop at the co op as they would be O.K

Re: fracking liphook - claire (8th Sep 2013 - 20:43:33) could we please see a long term weather forecast before before we volunteer for 'naked chaining to objects in village centre' ?

Re: fracking liphook - MC (17th Sep 2013 - 12:25:02) What we all need is more information!! The BIG Balloon Bash is taking place on Saturday, 21 September from 12 to 3pm at the proposed fracking site In Fernhurst. There will be demonstrations about the height of the rig, the noise of the construction and the drilling process and an opportunity to ask questions. There is also a beer tent, BBQ, ice creams, children's activities and pony rides. So please try to come along and tell anyone else who might be interested. The venue is Willards, Vann Road, Fernhurst GU27 3NJ. Car parking will be available on the grass verge adjacent to the site. For more information, go to www.frackfreefernhurst.com or frackfreefernhurst@gmail.com.

Re: fracking liphook - tony (17th Sep 2013 - 16:30:18) Thanks MC. I'm away working Saturday but hope you get a good turnout and decent weather. You guys in Fernhurst are putting together a really professional defence to this thing. The bit about the well reaching for 2 or 3 miles (your link)puts Liphook right above the line of fire too and the bit about 60% of wells failing and polluting the soil, collapsing house prices, really got my attention. By the way, doesn't 70 lorries a day mean 140 HGV journeys through Liphook Square in each direction? (traffic chaos plus carrying toxic waste). I think when that becomes better known it will make people sit up and think. At least when BP polluted the Gulf of Mexico it was able to spend tens of billions of pounds clearing it up, I'm betting these outfits won't have a bean to clean our hills and valleys. But even worse, they'll probably spend more money covering it up and denying the health risks. Keep up the good work.

Re: fracking Liphook - Paul (17th Sep 2013 - 17:11:52) I recall that some years ago there were scares about children being given specific injections to protect them from some dangerous illnesses. It was talked up so much by the scaremongers that many parents decided to not to allow their children to have said treatment. What happened? Sadly, many children without the protection developed one or the other of the illnesses the injection was designed to treat. Might not the anti-fracking brigade be going along a similar route to have all fracking killed off for the possible future benefit of consumers only for it to be discovered that it - fracking - would have been the answer to future fuel shortages? History repeating itself maybe?

Re: fracking liphook - Gassy (17th Sep 2013 - 19:19:37) Fracking is NOT the answer for future fuel shortages. It was already established that the possible gas deposits are FINITE and that the end consumer cost will NOT be reduced. Neither will fracking bring major local job creation nor significant revenue to local economy. Read the other fracking thread. Fracking is set to: literally undermined our bedrock, increase water shortages (higher costs to all), pollute our soil and ground water (possibly more), overload our roads with hazardous materials in big lorries, inflate the pockets of select far off individuals, load the atmosphere with CO2, and delay our resilience based on diverse renewables.

Re: fracking liphook - S (17th Sep 2013 - 20:08:43) Er, or maybe not Paul - are you basing your thoughts on any reasonable evidence or just playing devils advocate? I'd be interested to read the source your ideas are based on and assess for myself it's reliability.

Re: fracking liphook - paul (18th Sep 2013 - 09:16:57) Partly devil's advocate, S, but in the early 1970s an injection (MMR) was devoloped to combat measles, mumps and rubella. This one-off injection was available rather than three separate injections. Some claims were later made that the injection could cause autism. The claims were later dismissed as false and it was subsequently proved how very successful the MMR treatment has been in saving lives world-wide.

Re: fracking liphook - bdavies (18th Sep 2013 - 11:12:37) This Independant Newspaper article may shed some light on the real or imagined contamination that results from fracking. It is not scaremongering, just facts reported from the US. www.independent.co.uk/news/... The Energy Minister Ed Davey has already announced that fracked gas production in the UK will not reduce our gas bills... www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/...

Re: fracking liphook - S (18th Sep 2013 - 13:38:26) Yes i'm familiar with the MMR story but I just think it's a bad analogy - for a start the objections to MMR vaccine were valid questions and it's important that they were raised so that the links could be ruled out. Any objectors were able to personally choose not to use the vaccine / give it to their children whereas the fracking situation is something that will affect everyone, whether they object or not.. I don't think it's a good example. And when you look at the facts and previous examples of fracking, I think it becomes quite clear that the concerns are not wild rumours and speculation but actually very reasonable concerns for a local area that is going to be left to deal with the fall-out once developers have long moved on to their next site.

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