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MUST READ! - BOHUNT - All Parents/Carers & People who have an interest in Bohunt School.
- Joe Grimes (11th Jul 2013 - 17:36:09)
Recently about a week ago a student at bohunt school cut his hair too short for the uniform rules. How would you punish a student who cut his hair too short? Possibly one or two detentions out of lessons to make sure he won't do it again? Nope here's bohunts approach: He has to stay in a room out of lessons for up to two weeks (already been there for a week) This takes him out of lessons which are vital for his education and keeps him away from friends at breaks and lunchtimes. I must add that he is currently studying for his GCSE'S for next year and this could really affect his grades. I wish to know your thoughts on this so feel free to have a discussion because I need to know if I'm not the only one who is outraged by this!
Thanks,
Joe Grimes (A Bohunt student)
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To complain to bohunt: Bohunt School
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Re: MUST READ! - BOHUNT - All Parents/Carers & People who have an interest in Bohunt School.
- Jane (11th Jul 2013 - 18:55:35)
So this is Bohunt's policy on hair.....
"Hair: must be neat and tidy. Long hair must be tied back for health and safety reasons in some areas e.g. PE, Science and Design & Technology. Extreme styles or non natural colours are not permitted, e.g. tram lines, cornrows, or any shaving of hair – Grade 2+ permitted for boys."
That's their policy, so if he broke any part of that then I'm afraid he is entitled to be punished. I am sure he is being kept up to date with school work? And I'm assuming 2 weeks is a good enough time for his hair to grow back to a reasonable length?
Don't do the crime, if you can't do the time!
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Re: MUST READ! - BOHUNT - All Parents/Carers & People who have an interest in Bohunt School.
- Joe (11th Jul 2013 - 19:36:59)
I fully understand bohunts policy and I mostly agree with it however I feel the punishments are a bit too far. He has broken the rules therefore he is entitled to a punishment however his hair is not going to affect his learning in the classroom. He is stuck in a room while potential answers to GCSE'S are being given in a classroom nearby which he can't participate in due to the length of his hair. Punishments should be out of teaching hours. Being shut out of lessons should ONLY be used for students who can't behave in a class and are disrupting others. Schools are for education and right now bohunt are not even doing that.
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Re: MUST READ! - BOHUNT - All Parents/Carers & People who have an interest in Bohunt School.
- wendy (11th Jul 2013 - 20:50:10)
Having just spoken to my son regarding inclusions at bohunt, he is in year 7, I can reassure you all that the children are given the same work as their class to do whilst there. So he will still be being educated.
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Re: MUST READ! - BOHUNT - All Parents/Carers & People who have an interest in Bohunt School.
- Richard (11th Jul 2013 - 21:00:30)
This may be a daft question, but why do schools ban very short hair, as it does prevent head lice...
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Re: MUST READ! - BOHUNT - All Parents/Carers & People who have an interest in Bohunt School.
- Tracey (11th Jul 2013 - 21:23:00)
Wendy I can assure you he is not given the same work as his class mates. He is sometimes given a work sheet to complete. He is currently in yr 10 studying for his gcse's next year. He has so far spent a total of 3 days in inclusion with no work given to him that would help him in anyway for his exams. His hair is not extreme nor is it to short, grade 2 on the back.
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Re: MUST READ! - BOHUNT - All Parents/Carers & People who have an interest in Bohunt School.
- Hal (11th Jul 2013 - 21:52:14)
If this student blatantly disregarded the rules then letting him back into class with that hair cut is effectively letting him get away with it in front of the other children - he should absolutely be taken out of the classroom. After two weeks his hair will be back to Grade 2 and thus allowed back into the class room. If the child can't even read the school rules then I wouldn't think that GCSE's will be an issue anyway. Well done Bohunt School.
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Re: MUST READ! - BOHUNT - All Parents/Carers & People who have an interest in Bohunt School.
- Tracey (11th Jul 2013 - 21:52:54)
Jane...
Have you seen students going to and from bohunt?
The school policy states, no make up, quite a few girls have so much foundation caked on there face that some are beginning to resemble Katie price on a night out.
The school policy also states knee length skirts must be worn, again most girls have extremely short skirts on, I have belts wider than them skirts.
Do you think every girl that attends bohunt with makeup on or short skirts on are in inclusion everyday? No they are not, if they were bohunt would hardly have any pupils in class each day.
The child in question is a good lad and really does not want to be sat in a class all day with a teacher learning absolutely nothing. His hair is not to short nor is it extreme.
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Re: MUST READ! - BOHUNT - All Parents/Carers & People who have an interest in Bohunt School.
- Mel (11th Jul 2013 - 22:30:14)
Hal, do you know the child? Have you met the child? Don't assume the child is dumb because a school rule was broken. Have you ever broken a rule? I think I can safely say that most people have broken a rule at some point.
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Re: MUST READ! - BOHUNT - All Parents/Carers & People who have an interest in Bohunt School.
- jo (12th Jul 2013 - 00:23:04)
I must admit my personal feelings are this. If a child is disruptive to a point that they prevent others from learning or the teacher from teaching then they should be taken out of class. If however it is something like this incident then detention after school I feel is more appropriate.
When my daughter was in the school she had numerous times in inclusion and she felt she learnt nothing at those times.
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Re: MUST READ! - BOHUNT - All Parents/Carers & People who have an interest in Bohunt School.
- Jane (12th Jul 2013 - 07:43:48)
I agree the punishment is harsh and it seems the school is probably trying to send out a very firm message that this won't be tolerated. Of course not knowing how short the boy's hair is it is very difficult to judge whether the 'crime' deserves this punishment.
However, if you allow him to continue to attend lessons as normal then it is basically saying that it's ok and will be tolerated. I think this is all part of the responsibility of growing up, we all have to live by rules whether we like them or not and we all know if we break them we are likely to get punished - you can't pick and choose what that punishment is.
My son was given a very harsh punishment in year 7 when he broke the rules which some could say was over the top...but he never, ever did it again! Lesson learnt.
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Re: MUST READ! - BOHUNT - All Parents/Carers & People who have an interest in Bohunt School.
- P Weyland (12th Jul 2013 - 12:50:58)
Good call on Bohunts behalf of actually enforcing a rule laid down by them. Especially in these days where often people dont like living by the rules under the broad banner of 'human rights'
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Re: MUST READ! - BOHUNT - All Parents/Carers & People who have an interest in Bohunt School.
- tony (12th Jul 2013 - 13:31:39)
They're gonna have problems if they ever get a Buddhist child starting there!
(I wonder if they'd stand up to the PC brigade, or is it just the 'British Armed Forces' look that's out?)
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Re: MUST READ! - BOHUNT - All Parents/Carers & People who have an interest in Bohunt School.
- Hal (12th Jul 2013 - 16:33:55)
Mel,
I don't know the child.
If you break the rules don't whinge about the punishment. If the child is in Year 10 he will know the rules so he knowingly broke them. The child can ask for work to do in his inclusion room if he is worried about missing out - I'm sure the teachers will be more than happy to give it to him.
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Re: MUST READ! - BOHUNT - All Parents/Carers & People who have an interest in Bohunt School.
- Callum young ( bohunt student ) (12th Jul 2013 - 21:14:56)
I am with Joe on this one.
Honestly. The students should be allowed to have their hair how they want it. If they do go over the top then yes fair enough they get told off and put in a after school detention to teach them to never do it again. You see girls around the school plastered with make-up, skirts half way up their waist. But no. One innocent person decides to have his haircut and gets put up in the inclusion room UNTIL IT GROWS BACK and his all important GCSE revision and controlled assessments which can only be done in the classroom environment are missed out on. All because he had his hair cut? is this right? NO. Sort it out!!
Nice one Bohunt.
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Re: MUST READ! - BOHUNT - All Parents/Carers & People who have an interest in Bohunt School.
- claire (13th Jul 2013 - 10:56:21)
there used to be a great person who over saw pastoral care etc when my kids were at Bohunt. If girls wore heels to high he had some gigantic black plimsolls they were 'welcome ' to borrow if a parent couldn't bring in shoes. If boys couldn't keep their trousers on their waist he had superb 'grandad' braces to offer........ all the kids really liked and respected him too!
Maybe they should just get a less than tasteful mullet wig for the boy to borrow!! .......... all tongue in cheek
kids will always push boundaries , it's how we educate them to the fact that at times we all have to conform that is the strategy to develop.
Sitting him alone is saying (quote from Matilda) ' i'm big, you're little and there ain't nothing you can do about it'.
If that is the most constructive punishment they can think of one has to wonder how exciting, engaging and enriching some of the the teaching might be. I cannot imagine he is sitting there self reflecting , probably more sitting there believeing even more deeply that some teachers are out of touch.
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Re: MUST READ! - BOHUNT - All Parents/Carers & People who have an interest in Bohunt School.
- CT (13th Jul 2013 - 12:49:08)
If you don't like what is happening then change schools, you have that choice. I would also like to say that talk to the staff at the school and the student council if you would like the rules changed. This is not the best place for this.
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Re: MUST READ! - BOHUNT - All Parents/Carers & People who have an interest in Bohunt School.
- Maureen Moody (13th Jul 2013 - 13:18:23)
Having a wig is a brilliant idea or as in the olden days a dunces hat because he obviously cannot understand the rules.We all liked to see how far we could go but had to take the consequences.
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Re: MUST READ! - BOHUNT - All Parents/Carers & People who have an interest in Bohunt School.
- CAD (13th Jul 2013 - 23:46:08)
I am a student here and all the school seem to care about is how you look instead of your education. honestly putting someone in a isolated room until it grows back is stupid especially at this time of year where CATS ( controlled assessment tasks ) are taking place in multiple subjects and are worth up to 50% of your final grade and these tasks can only take place in a controlled environment where the subject teacher is in supervision. And this is all being missed out due to a lack of hair. Is it distracting the learning of others? no. Does it affect classwork? no. Our grades are being affected by the length of our hair.
The school otherwise is a good educating school.
But these up tight 'rules' NEED to be loosened off a tad.
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Re: MUST READ! - BOHUNT - All Parents/Carers & People who have an interest in Bohunt School.
- Richard (14th Jul 2013 - 14:12:55)
Why does hair length matter, and what would they do with a child who had had chemotherapy? Or a child who had a mark on their face that they liked to cover?
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Re: MUST READ! - BOHUNT - All Parents/Carers & People who have an interest in Bohunt School.
- Hal (14th Jul 2013 - 22:29:51)
Couple of quick points;
Tony - Buddhists don’t have to shave their heads, only Buddhist monks (it’s a bit like saying all Christian children must take a vow of silence because some monks do!)
Richard – Comparing this child with someone who has cancer is a bit silly, as is comparing him to a child who has a facial disfigurement. You can use that argument about anything (all children should be allowed to swear at teachers because what if one child has Tourettes syndrome etc etc..)
You’re right that hair length probably doesn’t matter, but then again neither does the colour of blazers - what does it matter if some kids turn up in a blue blazer instead of green, it’s not going to stop anyone learning is it?!
Rules are rules, wearing green blazers or no shaved heads, all schools have rules.
This is all just about children trying to show they can break the rules. These children just need to grow up (which is what School is all about!)
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Re: MUST READ! - BOHUNT - All Parents/Carers & People who have an interest in Bohunt School.
- dawn (15th Jul 2013 - 09:39:10)
I have been reading this post with interest, and would like to say well done to all those students of Bohunt who have put their points across in a well structured way without aggressive or inappropriate language.
Although I do not agree with all of your points, it was a good place to have the discussion as it is open to all [Teachers, Parents and Students].
As far as short hair is concerned, I am miffed as to what the problem could be with that? Many men have shaved / cropped hair it is easy to do yourself and not a look that is unacceptable in normal society.
Being put in isolation is a punishment, where generally little learning is absorbed by the student and little in-put is put into that learning by busy teachers who also have a full class to oversee. In my opinion, re-education is the only way forward – not punishment of this kind. Punishment will only create a war of bad feelings whereby that student will have a grudge against that teacher for the rest of his school career.
I would add a further couple of remarks:
Firstly: if you are in the lead-up to exams or c.a.t.s., the option of changing schools for whatever reason is not really an option. In general, parents will not take up the option to remove a student from his peer-group, particularly when it is felt that the school is in the wrong rather than the student – as this is re-victimising the victim all over again.
Secondly: if the uniform policy was strictly enforced for ALL students there would be no ambiguity or query at all as to what is allowed or what you can ‘get away with’. There are many instances that we [as parents on the school run] see for example: where girls are in skirts way shorter than the required length, or wearing enough make-up to sink the Titanic, boys wearing trainers, boys with trousers half-way down their bottoms with their pants showing etc..etc.. The problem occurs when SOME students are picked out for harsh treatment when all the others are not. This does not demonstrate an adherence to the rules but signifies that decisions are made based on the relationship between the student and the teacher. i.e. the uniform rules being used as a way to punish a child.
If girls wear makeup, send them to the toilets to wash it off. If students are wearing inappropriate footwear send for their parents to bring in the correct shoes, if skirts are too short ditto the above, if hair is too bright send them to the hairdresser to get it toned down. Have one set of rules and apply them equally to every student.
If everyone is treated the same then no-one will feel singled out for what they feel is unwarranted punishment – which seems to be the case here. Until that happens, then students who are singled out will continue to harbour bad feelings which is not good for either the school or the student.
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Re: MUST READ! - BOHUNT - All Parents/Carers & People who have an interest in Bohunt School.
- Mrs G (15th Jul 2013 - 20:42:51)
Couldn't agree more about the points raised here concerning Uniform. A short haircut can be very neat and tidy but the skirt issues etc are ridiculous. If they are going to enforce one rule then enforce them ALL!! They are aware that they are Not enforcing rules laid down in their own School Prospectus as when Ofsted visited, there were an average of 5 staff outside school and up the Longmoor road each day, telling students to roll skirts down, remove earrings etc. This would be totally unnecessary if the rules were adhered to all the time. For this to work, there needs to be a much stronger respect between the students and the staff, which other schools in the area manage to accomplish very well. As for GCSE teaching.....a friends child asked for help twice in class and was told to be quiet and get on with their work!! How can you if you don't understand????
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Re: MUST READ! - BOHUNT - All Parents/Carers & People who have an interest in Bohunt School.
- Richard (17th Jul 2013 - 20:41:01)
Nice to see that Bohunt are focusing on the really important things.
Who cares if the students are getting bullied, as long as the bullies have proper haircuts and are dressed accordingly.
It seems that the place has got worse than it was when I left it 21 years ago (and it was a s***hole then if you were one targeted for bullying)
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Re: MUST READ! - BOHUNT - All Parents/Carers & People who have an interest in Bohunt School.
- Chris (17th Jul 2013 - 21:28:49)
I think this is actually wrong in every way.
If a boy has a grade 1 crop is there anything wrong with this?
If someone can explain how this affects or impacts on society then please enlighten me.
it doesn't make them a thug or some sort of extremist, it's a haircut!
You can have the appropriate hair cut to attend Bohunt school but be a complete pain and disrupt a whole classes education but be allowed to remain in the lesson!
I think someone needs to get a grip and not 'judge a book by it's cover'
You can't persecute someone for their haircut that's outrageous.
Rules are rules is no excuse if the rules are rubbish!
The Nazi's tried this!
Good behaviour and showing people respect and tolerance should be a rule, but a haircut! really! lets ruin the boys future prospects of obtaining a decent education!
Who made these rules anyway?
One person? (his personal view)
The governors? ( explain why)
Wake up!
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Re: MUST READ! - BOHUNT - All Parents/Carers & People who have an interest in Bohunt School.
- may (20th Jul 2013 - 23:07:39)
Its a pity Bohunt aren't so strict on bullies, important issues are swept under the carpet
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