Liphook.co.uk <img src=images/arroww.gif width=9 height=9> The Community Site

Talkback
Search Business Directory:  Add your business entry
Community
 Talkback
 Community Magazine

 South Downs National Park

 Local Events
 Local Traffic
 Local Trains
 Local Weather

 CrimeStoppers

 About Liphook
 History
 Maps

 Local MP
 Parish Council

Liphook...
 Carnival
 Comm. Laundry
 Day Centre
 Heritage Centre
 In Bloom
 Market
 Millennium Ctr

 

 Charities
 Clubs & Societies
 Education
 Library
 Local churches
 New Mums & Dads
 Useful Contacts

 Accommodation
 Food & Drink
 Places to Visit
 Tesla chargers

 Website Links
Business
 Online Directory
 Add Entry
 Edit Entry
 Business Help
Services
 Web Design
 Advertising
About
 Privacy Policy
 About Us
 Contact

Local Talkback
Talkback is for the residents and businesses in Liphook to voice their views and opinions about local issues and events.


Reply to THIS thread
Start a NEW Talkback Thread
Talkback Home


Sainsburys you a disgrace
- Peter Shepherd (11th Feb 2013 - 19:22:37)

I walked into Sainsburys at 8am this morning and I noticed 4 young girls shivering in the cold,waiting to go in, I said to the security man why were they waiting? He said it's a one in, one out policy??!!!......

I can understand this in a small newsagent like Gables, but not an 18,000,000 sq foot supermarket.

I'm looking for answers from Sainsbuurys tommorow!

Re: Sainsburys you a disgrace
- jo herridge (12th Feb 2013 - 01:29:55)

this has been the case for several years due to the amount of shoplifting that goes on before and after school. A small minority spoil it for the majority.

Re: Sainsburys you a disgrace
- Simon (12th Feb 2013 - 05:03:55)

I support Sainsburys policy...they have to restrict school pupil numbers...imagine dozens of school children walking round the store at the same time and only one security guard to keep an eye on them. I appeciate that most young people are sensible and law obiding, but there will always be a few intent on having 'fun' and causing mischief, thereby upsetting other shoppers.

What I find more remarkable is young people walking to school in the cold with unsuitable clothing...no coat, hat or scarf.

Dress suitably and then you won't have to shiver while waiting outside a shop.

Re: Sainsburys you a disgrace
- Heather (12th Feb 2013 - 09:13:43)

Bohunt have a school uniform policy. They aren't allowed to wear coats over their blazers.

Re: Sainsburys you a disgrace
- Peter Shepherd (12th Feb 2013 - 09:20:42)

I can see the point if there are hundreds of kids,but I\'m talking about a dozen kids max in the morning,
Jo you say about shop lifting,have you any evidence,I know plenty of adults that shop lift,are they going to ban all of us as well???
I will never have my child queuing to go into a supermarket,nor should anyone one else!

Re: Sainsburys you a disgrace
- Peter shepherd (12th Feb 2013 - 11:00:10)

Also how ironic a supermarket standing on the moral high ground,they assume kids to be pests,and thieves!..............
I assume my beef burgers to be made from beef!!!!!

Re: Sainsburys you a disgrace
- Simon (12th Feb 2013 - 11:13:36)

Is that correct Heather? They aren't allowed to wear a coat when traveling to/from school, no matter what the weather?

Re: Sainsburys you a disgrace
- MikeG (12th Feb 2013 - 14:25:27)

The City of London measures 31,000,000 sq ft.

I did not realise Liphook Sainsburys was so large.

Re: Sainsburys you a disgrace
- Eb (12th Feb 2013 - 15:50:58)

They are allowed to wear coats but not hoodies!

Re: Sainsburys you a disgrace
- claire (12th Feb 2013 - 19:51:06)

I am surprised they are allowed to discriminate against any customer on the grounds of age.


Re: Sainsburys you a disgrace
- H (12th Feb 2013 - 20:06:12)

I think that the reason that Sainsbury\'s do not let many school children in at the same time is because they will go in there in groups to just hang around - they aren\'t all going in to do their weekly food shop for their parents. I used to do the same when I was a school child - after school or at lunch time we and most of the other scool children would wonder around looking for somewhere to hang around. Sainsbury\'s aren\'t suggesting that school children are all criminals and if that is the policy they want then fair enough.
I don\'t see what size has to do with it - the number of staff per sq.ft in Gables is much more than in Sainsburys so if they can\'t \"keep an eye\" on them how can Sainsbury\'s.
Anyway I don\'t believe that Sainsbury\'s policy is anything to do with Crime, it\'s probably more to do with crowding. I for one have never seen any Bohunt children causing trouble and think they are incredibly polite and well behaved.

Re: Sainsburys you a disgrace
- Peter Shepherd (13th Feb 2013 - 15:16:16)

I Have lodged a complaint to head office,they have promised me a review.....
I've told them if its not changed within a month I will be instructing my legal team to take the necessary steps.

Re: Sainsburys you a disgrace
- Lesley (13th Feb 2013 - 16:18:55)

I hear what you say peter, but do you really have any experience in dealing with groups teenagers outside school or anywhere for that matter?
I have no idea what age these girls were but they can be just as difficullt as boys – if not worse. I think Sainsbury have had enough of the hassle it causes.
I expect you’ve been on the wrong end of a goby-teenager rant in the past!
Personally, I don’t really want to see or hear groups of screaming teenagers skylarking around the store when I doing my shopping. Also, have you ever considered what the staff in the store put up with from these kids?
It’s probably that a small minority have spoilt it for the majority – that’s life these days.

Don’t you think it’s a little OTT to get the Legal team involved because Sainsbury don’t want be used as a drop-in centre!!

Re: Sainsburys you a disgrace
- Susie (13th Feb 2013 - 16:22:32)

Legal team? Bit of an over reaction?

The kids know the rules about Sainsbury's and coats aren't banned, it's just not cool to be seen wearing one. Its their choice if they want to go and buy sweets (not a good choice anyway) or not wear a coat.

If they don't like it they have a voice to complain, many of them are good debators, or boycot the store altogether.

Parents can always go and walk around with them if they dont want their child out in the cold but thats even more 'not cool'.

It's up to Sainsburys to decide their own rules. Don't like it? Don't go.

Now where is my son with my wine gums?

Re: Sainsburys you a disgrace
- Peter Shepherd (13th Feb 2013 - 18:07:35)

I have managed kids football teams ranging from 8-14 year olds,and have 3 children of my own,I know there's some right little street urchins out there,but Im not going to have any child of mine queuing to go into a supermarket that has 15 people in at most.
I used to taxi an old lady (86)who used the same store,she was regularly apprehended getting into my taxi with a large block of cheese she had just stolen,she was welcomed back every week, to shop there.
What would happen if Sainsburys started to be wary of coloured people,would there be a seperate queue for them????
NO
It's a bloody disgrace, and I'm not having it!!!

Re: Sainsburys you a disgrace
- Pam (13th Feb 2013 - 19:50:02)

A few months ago I went to shop at Sainsburys at about 3.30ish pm. I too noticed the queue of youngsters waiting to go in to the supermarket. I was puzzled so I asked one of the cashiers who I happen to know, what was going on. She explained that some youngsters were coming into the shop regularly both early morning, presumably before school and afternoons presumably after school, in large numbers. They were going round together and blatantly taking items off the shelves and stuffing them in bags and pockets. Because there were so many of them and they were all crowding together it was difficult to pick out the culprits on the CCTV, but the staff were aware but unable to do anything about it as there were so many of them and they just ran out of the shop. As a result of this Sainsburys for a time insisted on teachers accompanying the schoolchildren to supervise them. I do not know if this has ceased, hence now only allowing one (I actually thought it was two) youngsters in at a time.

I do not feel that Sainsburys are discriminating against youngsters as you see plenty of them in Sainsburys either with adults or on their own or with just one friend. It is the number of youngsters all crowding in at one particular time that Sainsburys are objecting to and quite rightly.

As one of the previous postings commented Gables do the same for the same reason.

As for the comment about shivering, that is just nonsense. Wear warm coats and this is allowed by Bohunt.


Re: Sainsburys you a disgrace
- A. R. (13th Feb 2013 - 20:27:21)

Totally agree Peter, it is discrimination,and that can not be right. As for those people who do not want to shop with kids around, shame on you, what gives you the monopoly on the store? Do they not employ store detectives to walk around? Just put more on at certain times if they feel the kids are an issue.

Re: Sainsburys you a disgrace
- Peter Shepherd (13th Feb 2013 - 22:08:57)

Pam
You believe everything your told then?
Where's the evidence?
Me and my drivers have been going in for 4 years at 8am and only ever seen well behaved kids,getting a few things from the store and leaving!
Your do better seeing for yourself than relying on hearsay!!!

Re: Sainsburys you a disgrace
- Steve (13th Feb 2013 - 22:55:19)

Blimey the other week this guy was a CEO of a taxi firm and this week he will be informing his legal team.
Must be money in a local run about service.

Re: Sainsburys you a disgrace
- notsureaboutthisone (14th Feb 2013 - 00:14:54)

I actually have a residual dislike for Sainsbury's for the way they have shafted Liphook.
My credentials declared; I cannot understand WTF Peter Shepherd is going on about. As much as I may dislike them as a business,I recognise that Sainsbury have the right to run said biz how they wish within the legal perameters of their trading licenses.
Would P.S's company, Courtesy Cabs, happily collect potentially difficult fares if they didn't have to. They can refuse to transport any indiviual they wish to for whatever reason they decide, without giving a reason. That is their right, and correctly so.
So, "the threat of instructing my legal team" must have had them rolling in the aisles at Sainsbury's.
Needless to say, Peter Shepherd makes himself look daft with the suggestion that that threat would make them accede to a change in any of their policies

Re: Sainsburys you a disgrace
- Dave (14th Feb 2013 - 08:09:45)

Whilst i can see both sides of this discussion, i believe that this supermarket has been a pain in the a----- ever since they descended on our village, i have not been in the place since it was built on principal because i did not agree with the siting of it and certainly never wanted the petrol station (which they were never going to build remember!Let alone the extension that they didn't need. They won't have to worry about me clogging up their ailes or doorways, It has taken nearly all of the business away from our local shops save that which they don't want and it attracts shoppers from well outside the area bringing further chaos to our already busy roads especially in the mornings and afternoons when ,added to this, lazy parents drive to the schools to collect their kids instead of walking.I say give us back our community shops and banish these supermarkets to far away industrial sites.( we could pay for our own millenium hall!) Rant over.

Re: Sainsburys you a disgrace
- H (14th Feb 2013 - 09:26:09)

Peter,

I presume you are going to instruct your legal team regarding the policy at Gables also - or are you discriminating against Sainsburys based only on size?
Also, why are children going to Sainburys before school in their uniforms - maybe just to hang out somewhere before school?
Personally I am not really bothered about the policy in Sainsburys and I think you are just over reacting.
Your children know about the policy so are obviously more then happy to wait around in the cold. If there is no way you are having your child hang about in the cold why don\'t you tell them not to, rather than blaming sainsburys?

Re: Sainsburys you a disgrace
- Pam (14th Feb 2013 - 11:23:59)

Leaving aside the postings from people who for one reason or another do not like or go to Sainsburys, let us return to the original subject of Peter's posting.

Peter, why would I not believe what I am told. I have known this cashier for a number of years and she is a thoroughly honest and decent woman. Why would she lie? She has no axe to grind. She was simply answering my rather puzzled question. I fiind your questions ie " You believe everything your told then?" and
"Where's the evidence?" rather insulting, but in answer to the first question yes I do believe her and to the second, the evidence is in the actions of Sainsburys and Gables in restricting the numbers of youngsters going in at any one time. Last week Gables had about 20 of them queueing and the time I was at Sainsburys, saw them and asked the question there were again about 20 or possibly more youngsters waiting to go in., Sainsburys and Gables do not want to cause confrontation and upset the public, why would they? but if they have evidence of shoplifting they have to take action. I am sure they would take action against a crowd of adults bunching together and found them to be shoplifting. Shops lose billions of pounds a year from shoplifting and we the consumer inevitably pick up the tab because prices will increase accordingly.

You say "Me and my drivers have been going in for 4 years at 8am and only ever seen well behaved kids,getting a few things from the store and leaving!" so what are you complaining about? The one occasion you saw four girls huddled and shivering. You would have done better to advise them to wear appropriate winter wear such as a warm coat which is allowed by Bohunt. No hoodies though.

Re: Sainsburys you a disgrace
- Kevin (14th Feb 2013 - 18:03:58)

I have every sympathy with Sainsburys or any other shop that tries to minimise shoplifting. Peter is completely out of order when he threatens Sainsburys with legal action. Shop owners be they small or large have the right to say who comes into their shops and if it is called discrimination - too bad. I personally have no objection to kids anywhere be it in shops, restuarants, aeroplanes, cinemas etc etc as long as they behave and do not make themselves a nuisance to others and this applies to adults as well. I do not discriminate and I am not anti youth, but consideration and respect for other people and their property is paramount and in our society it is sadly lacking.

Re: Sainsburys you a disgrace
- TT (14th Feb 2013 - 19:06:29)

Well said Kevin, I couldn't agree more. I worked in Somerfield for many many years and we had the same problem as Sainsburys with Bohunt children coming into the store in groups, and whilst some act suspiciously the others shoplift, it is very very difficult to keep an eye on them all. They also are very verbal at times this is also quite a problem. Sainsburys should stick to only a few at a time, my son regularly goes in after school if he chooses too, and he has no problem with waiting, and he always wears suitable clothing to keep him warm whilst he waits.
Mr Shepherd your threatening behaviour needs much to be desired, i'm now wondering if thats where your drivers get their arrogance from! Look at your own business first before criticising others!

Re: Sainsburys you a disgrace
- An adult (14th Feb 2013 - 19:52:21)

This policy operates in most shops near a school, whether they are a large or small shop. When I worked in another part of the country, teaching in a good, state school in a residential area the corner shop had the exact same policy. Most of our children were lovely, but some did go in there and steal, the owner had them on CCTV in their uniform and told the school! This was a national chain also.

I live in the village and drive through it every morning and work in a school and many children don't wear their coats, I think by the age of 11, children are able to make a judgement call on the temperature outside. If they don't wear their coats - hard luck!

People may have to drive their children to school if they live outside of the village, especially in bad weather. Stop whining about it. Not everyone who drives their children is lazy, nor are all the children lazy! No I'm not a parent, but a bit fed up of all the moaning!

Re: Sainsburys you a disgrace
- Lisa (14th Feb 2013 - 20:47:21)

Peter, you aren't doing yourself any favours here. I was talking about this thread to a group of friends today, many of whom use your cabs on a regular basis. The consensus was that you need to get off your high horse and that your argument is rubbish. Sainsburys can do as they wish with regard to letting people in their store. Your threat to use your legal team just makes you look like a fool.

Re: Sainsburys you a disgrace
- R (14th Feb 2013 - 21:06:48)

If like me you are offended by Peter Shapherd's initial comments vote with your feet and don't use his company.

Also tell your friends, tell your family, tell any interested parties.

Let people power damage his business and then he will have something to moan about

Re: Sainsburys you a disgrace
- TT (14th Feb 2013 - 22:03:26)

R
Thank you for your comments, I am very offended by his comments. Perhaps I should have got my " Legal Team" to sort his company out when one of his so called drivers decided to be arrogant in the Sainsburys car park a while back. Plus if it wasn't for Sainsburys he wouldn't have as much work as quite a few customers use the company!!
I am one who will NEVER use or recommend Courtesy cabs again!! Should be named Uncourtesy Cabs.

Re: Sainsburys you a disgrace
- k (15th Feb 2013 - 00:22:58)

your going to boycott a taxi firm over someones opinion ??? thats really grown up i will continue to use them as i cant stand apple cars and the abuse you get from the woman also the security gaurd in sainsburys is a pain in the back side he also follows young mums around who have pushchairs this happens to me on a weekly basis as im pushing a pushchair with one hand and olding a basket and yes bohunt do have a uniform policy as my son got a detention for wearing his coat when it was chucking down with rain and maybe the kids r going to get there lunch befor school like i used to you cant boycott someones buissnes over a simple opinion thats being petty minded

Re: Sainsburys you a disgrace
- Peter Shepherd (15th Feb 2013 - 06:43:17)

TT,R,Lisa
With any discussion forums,we all have different views!.
Just because mine don't sit with yours,doesn't mean I'm wrong.
Tell all your friends not to use my cabs,but when they don't turn up and they miss a train or even a plane,could be slightly embarrasing for yourselves.

Re: Sainsburys you a disgrace
- Peter Shepherd (15th Feb 2013 - 07:15:45)

It's funny that people who don't agree with you can get so nasty!.
I use the shop all the time,food is great,coffee shop I sit probably 3 times a week and enjoy no end.
But I don't like to see kids queue out the door,while we adults just saunter past,that's all!
Then you get people like t.t and R (funny that these people never use their. Real names)think they can somehow discredit your company.
Well t.t and R who both work for rival taxi firms bad luck!

Re: Sainsburys you a disgrace
- Lisa (15th Feb 2013 - 07:23:06)

Thats a bit rich Peter. It was you who got all hot under the collar in the first place!

Re: Sainsburys you a disgrace
- Jane Ives (15th Feb 2013 - 08:52:48)

Let's just get one fact straight here...Bohunt pupils are allowed to wear coats OVER their blazers.

Their uniform policy, taken from their website today, states

'Outside coats may be worn over (not instead of, or under) blazers in cold weather. No hoodies.'

My son is at Bohunt and regularly wears a coat over his blazer when it is raining. But I am aware that a lot of teenagers refuse to wear a coat and that is their lookout!

Re: Sainsburys you a disgrace
- Peter Shepherd (15th Feb 2013 - 09:15:48)

Lisa
I can reassure you I have never ever got "hot under the collar" over this issue!...
And surely if its a talking point for you and your mates,that is why a community forum is good!...if they all agree with you,Great!
I would love to be so wise

Re: Sainsburys you a disgrace
- Helen (15th Feb 2013 - 10:00:50)

Lisa
A bit unnecessary to 'talk to your group of women over this thread' and decide to not use Courtesy Cabs because of it.
I've lived in Liphook my whole life and if small minded people stop supporting our hardworking local businesses then in a few years time we will have nothing but a great big ugly supermarket in a washed out town where shivering, thieving school children and bored, irritating mothers wander around the aisles of our enormous superpower supermarket because there is nowhere else to go...

Re: Sainsburys you a disgrace
- Barbara (15th Feb 2013 - 11:52:18)

Perhaps Peter Shephard is getting upset on behalf of the Bohunt teenagers because he has a lucrative schools contract? I find it strange that schoolchildren have enough money each to go everyday before school to buy things likes sweets sandwiches and drinks. Either their parents are very well off and not caring about them ingesting junk food every day, or it is the other reason that some do go to try and shoplift, and the others like to hang around with the cool kids. Perhaps Peters legal team do not have enough work? One solicitors letter is minimum £250.00.

Re: Sainsburys you a disgrace
- Lisa (15th Feb 2013 - 12:17:28)

Helen
I certainly did not say that would not use Courtesy Cabs because of this thread or Peters attitude. What I said was that people use his service (ie, they know him) and we were of the consensus that he should get off his high horse and he was being rediculous calling in his "legal team".


Re: Sainsburys you a disgrace
- Peter Shepherd (15th Feb 2013 - 12:23:35)

Barbara
I have no school contracts,"Lucrative" or otherwise.

Re: Sainsburys you a disgrace
- TT (15th Feb 2013 - 12:24:35)

Actually Peter I do not work for one of your rival Taxi firms, and neither were my opinions nasty, you voiced your opinion over school children outside Sainsburys, so I voiced my opinion over your business. Surely it's a free world to be opinionated when one feels the need!! You started this thread!!

Re: Sainsburys you a disgrace
- Peter Shepherd (15th Feb 2013 - 12:47:55)

T.T
If you have any complaint about Courtesy Cabs,you should of rung me up and had a word,And if any of my drivers were at fault for anything I would have a word with them.
But no, you hide behind your anonymous name,how can I say to one of my drivers, a person called t.t has made a complaint against you??,he would think I'm going around the bend!
Give me your name and you grievance,and I will be delighted to respond to you

Re: Sainsburys you a disgrace
- TT (15th Feb 2013 - 13:13:43)

Peter
I did ring and complain at the time, I was sat in my car fuming that the arrogant driver could clearly see I was reversing into a vacant space but had to make it impossible for me to do so by pulling up so close to me making my parking impossible. Wasn't too impressed to say the least! Who ever it was I spoke to at the time, wasn't too helpful just told me the driver would be spoken to, at that point not either my name or details were asked for, so why now I have voiced my opinion do you want to do anything about it!! It should have been sorted & dealt with at the appropriate time!

Re: Sainsburys you a disgrace
- Peter Shepherd (15th Feb 2013 - 13:17:36)

tt
If you don't want to disclose your true Identity,I'm on 07742 985552,
Ring me and il gladly listen to your complaint

Re: Sainsburys you a disgrace
- Barry Gooden (15th Feb 2013 - 13:43:37)

Guys ,


Peter , I think this thread would have gone very differently if you hadnt mentioned the words 'legal team' as I think you got a lot of people's backs up doing that and lost a bit of support because of that.

Having said that , personally I'd recommend Courtesy Cabs over any other cab company in the area every time as I have used them on numerous occasions and I actually find all of their drivers very friendly and couldn't actually fault them on anything at all. Peter you wont remember this but you did once pick me up from airport and I didnt know who you were at the time but you were particularily grumpy on that occasion compared to your drivers so maybe you should cheer up a bit possibly.

Lastly , honestly how can you take anyone seriously on here that doesnt use their proper name!

Re: Sainsburys you a disgrace
- Peter shepherd (15th Feb 2013 - 14:05:53)

tt
I'm sorry,so very sorry,if I knew the gravity of the offence at the time,he would have been instantly dismissed,then I would have hauled him into the square to be publicly flogged,before beheaded!.........
No wonder you like to remain nameless!!!

Re: Sainsburys you a disgrace
- Peter Shepherd (15th Feb 2013 - 14:11:26)

Barry
That's exactly what I thought of you as well!

Re: Sainsburys you a disgrace
- Barry Gooden (15th Feb 2013 - 14:33:29)

No you dont know who I am , I am a friendly guy , ask any of your drivers.

You should win the award for ....How to make friends and influence people.........even taking a pop at people who actually think your cab company is half decent!

Anyway back to the point of the thread - Peter you have us all salivating at the mouth as to what advice your legal department have provided you with?

Re: Sainsburys you a disgrace
- Steve (15th Feb 2013 - 17:49:47)

I think it was Mark Twain who said
"Better to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt"?

Re: Sainsburys you a disgrace
- Peter Shepherd (15th Feb 2013 - 18:52:54)

Steve
People in glass houses!

Re: Sainsburys you a disgrace
- TT (15th Feb 2013 - 19:20:20)

Peter, you have just about summed you & your company up! Arrogant, ignorant & damn right rude. The title of this thread should be Courtesy Cabs is the Disgrace!!!

Re: Sainsburys you a disgrace
- Layla (15th Feb 2013 - 19:28:00)

Hi, i go to bohunt, i\\\'m in year 10. To be honest i think its ok . I wouldn\\\'t trust alot of the people in my school either. if people want to buy sweets or whatever they have to be prepared to wait. you don\\\'t normally have to wait that long and if you go in with an adult they let you in

Re: Sainsburys you a disgrace
- Lisa (15th Feb 2013 - 20:01:51)

Wow, you just can't stop being on the attack..

Re: Sainsburys you a disgrace
- Dave (15th Feb 2013 - 20:30:29)

i think that these postings have got out of hand one persons opinion has triggered a lynch mob, this was about a few schoolkids, GROW UP ALL OF YOU!

Re: Sainsburys you a disgrace
- jo herridge (15th Feb 2013 - 20:35:11)

Peter,
I appreciate it is not all school children and some adults do it too. Unfortunately my daughter used to shoplift from there most mornings before school and the more she got away with it the more she did it so it obviously happens.

I remember being at school and only a certain number of children allowed in shops at any one time but these weren't big stores most were small convenience stores.

Jo

Re: Sainsburys you a disgrace
- Peter Shepherd (15th Feb 2013 - 20:42:50)

It's no coincidence that everybody that has had a pop at me has hid behind an alias or just a Christian name bar Barry Gooden.
I think there is a name for these mythical people.
My view might not be shared by all of you but at least I have the balls to air my views under my full name and not hide behind an alias!!!

Re: Sainsburys you a disgrace
- Tracy Tull (aka TT) (15th Feb 2013 - 21:30:10)

I'm definitely not ashamed. My previous comments were not aimed at being nasty, purely to state that not every company is perfect, yours being one! But your arrogant sarcasm on some of your post tells me that it's ok for you to complain about what you forsee is unacceptable or to critisice others but no one can criticise you or your company!!
Think you should think twice next time before you get on your pedestal.

Re: Sainsburys you a disgrace
- Peter Shepherd (16th Feb 2013 - 07:07:41)

Tracy Tull
Fair play to you for giving your real name,I hope this debate will enable us to all do this in the future,there's nothing more cowardly than continually having a pop hiding behind initials and Christian names!
Still don't agree with a word you say,but thankyou!

Re: Sainsburys you a disgrace
- mike shepherd (16th Feb 2013 - 12:49:40)

I am the retired original boss of Courtesy Cabs it is sad to read the comments that have been raised in this debate.It seems to be a chance for some people to air their views on anything but the topic.From having run a very good taxi service for 26 years i do not want the good name tarnished by some silly comments. And to answer one comment we employ the most well mannered drivers in Hants.If we want to have a debate lets keep it to the subject.

Re: Sainsburys you a disgrace
- Tracy Tull (16th Feb 2013 - 15:41:45)

Can I please just say, that none of my comments were aimed at tarnishing anyone's names or company, or to be nasty/vindictive in any way shape or form. They were purely to state what I previously said that NO company is perfect, hence I was trying to make a point! If offence was taken I deeply apologise, but please next time if you want to give criticism then please be able to receive it too!!

Re: Sainsburys you a disgrace
- G (16th Feb 2013 - 17:34:05)

All in All I blame the parents, why the hell are they going to school with money anyway, they don't need it, packed lunches or school dinners, do they need money for that ! They should all be going straight home from school, dinner when they get home, Homework to be done, then bed ! where in that schedule does it warrant needing money, let alone stand and queue at a supermarket ! They should be banned with the exception of being accompanied by their parents !

Re: Sainsburys you a disgrace
- Pam (16th Feb 2013 - 18:44:15)

I could not agree more with Mike Shepherd's comment that 'If we want to have a debate lets keep it to the subject.' So in an effort to to keep this Thread on track although I think it has probably run its course, I return to the original subject and that is whether Sainsburys have the right to restrict who and how people enter their store. I think the overwhelming consensus is that “yes it does.

Peter asked me if I believed everything I was told and where was the evidence. I explained that a cashier whom I had known for many years told me, in answer to my puzzled question about youngsters queuing, that the reason was because of shoplifting. She did not say that youngsters were the only ones who shoplifted in Sainsburys. She was answering my specific question and yes I was offended by Peter’s inference that “ you believe everything your told then?” I think that particular posting set the tone of this Thread and produced subsequent postings which started the nastiness to which Peter refers in his posting dated 15 February. So he only has himself to blame.

As to evidence, the best posting of all was by Layla in Year 10 and I quote: “Hi I go to Bohunt, I’m in year 10. To be honest I think its ok. I wouldn’t trust a lot of a lot of people in my school either. If people want to buy sweets or whatever they have to be prepared to wait. You don’t normally have to wait that long and if you go in with an adult they let you in."

How refreshing was that posting which was to the point and actually made complete sense without being “nasty”. The other evidence, Peter, is contained in Jo’s posting and I think it was a brave posting, when she admitted that her daughter used to shoplift in Sainsburys most mornings before school and the more she got away with it the more she did it. I think you will agree that both these postings are “evidence”.

By the way, how are you getting on with taking legal action against Sainsburys?

Re: Sainsburys you a disgrace
- MM (16th Feb 2013 - 19:59:06)

Sorry, am I the only person bother that Mr Shepherd uses the word "coloured"!!!!!!! I appreciate that Liphook might not be the most diverse of communities but I for one, do find that term quite offensive.

And to the actual topic in question - I agree, most newsagents and supermarkets follow the same policy. I don't think legal action is necessary, just a little bit of tolerance perhaps?

Re: Sainsburys you a disgrace
- Peter shepherd (16th Feb 2013 - 21:13:46)

If we all agreed on everything it would be a very sterile life!...
I have never swayed on my original statement,inspite of the fact of a lot of differing views.
As I've said on numerous occasions,I shop there,and am a regular visitor to the coffee shop,staff are great,and the shop is well run!
But I do not sit well with children having to queue for often a fair while to go into an almost empty shop!
I totally understand that children steal,and can be a right pain in large groups,but you talking of an enormous minority,and 99% of good kids, are lined up outside because of that,wouldnt happen to any other age group!!!
That's it really in a nutshell,I have sent a letter to Sainsburys head office outlining my concerns,I hope it changes, as I think there is an age discrimination issue....
I will leave everybody with this...........
Harry my son after hearing today about the discussion on the website,said he queued 15 minutes after school last week on his one and only time he has visited the shop after school,now surely that's not right!


Re: Sainsburys you a disgrace
- David (16th Feb 2013 - 21:31:00)

I've not seen any Bohunt pupils having a moan about having to queue.

If they don't want to queue go elsewhere.

Re: Sainsburys you a disgrace
- rita (17th Feb 2013 - 14:08:19)

if the bohunt pupils are happy to wait in the line a few at a time to buy snacks or whatever they want to buy then why is it such a problem.
its also there own choice to wear coats, it was good to hear laylas comments as she is a bohunt pupil.
when i was at bohunt if i wanted to buy sweets at the gables i had to wait a while to be let in. sainsburys was not built then, but i chose to go home as my mum had snacks and sweets at home.
at the end of the day all shops have a right to protect goods,i would be the same if i had a shop.
i dont agree with peter's comments or a few others but its there opinon and they are entitled to it.

Reply to THIS thread
Talkback Home





Please contact us with any changes to entries, or posts that you feel should be removed, ensuring that you include the posts subject. All messages here are © 1999 - 2025 Liphook Ltd and must not be reproduced elsewhere without permission.


Specialist solicitors can give you the legal advice and support you need

D P M Leadwork Ltd provide a wide range of domestic and commercial lead roofing and roof tiling services in Liphook, Hampshire and surrounding areas.

Liphook Tree Surgeons offer a full range of arboricultural services from planting right through to felling and stump grinding.

Get £50 cashback when swapping to Octopus Energy


© 1999 - 2025 Liphook Ltd Supported by DG & YSH Hosting
This website is owned and operated by Liphook Ltd, a company registered in England and Wales - company number: 07468258.