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Yet another RTA at Passfield Junction. - Dawn Hoskins (21st Dec 2016 - 11:54:46) Same corner - same problem. Last week there was a prang [not surprised] and only a few short months ago a 19 year old passenger was killed. The broken hearted family are still lighting candles at the tree and this reminds me of the danger of this junction everyday. This time, the driver taking the corner has left the road entirely and ended up in the drainage ditch. WHEN are the authorities going to put a stop to this and install traffic lights? How many people need to be killed and injured at this deathtrap junction?

Re: Yet another RTA at Passfield Junction. - Dave (21st Dec 2016 - 13:16:53) its not the road it is the pig stupid drivers treating the road like Silverstone! Shut the junction make it access only we don't need yet more traffic lights

Re: Yet another RTA at Passfield Junction. - Sarah (21st Dec 2016 - 14:32:48) I hope everyone involved today in the accident is alright. I don't think traffic lights will help at all and I can't see how they would work, other than making Passfield into one massive junction with queues of traffic (I live in Passfield) on the main road. It needs much better road markings and possibly some more lighting at the junction. Other than that, people need to reduce their speed through Passfield. Speeding on this stretch is a big problem.

Re: Yet another RTA at Passfield Junction. - Andrew (21st Dec 2016 - 15:48:05) I bike to bordon on mondays on this road and they go to fast it's time something was done to slow they down before someone gets kill

Re: Yet another RTA at Passfield Junction. - Dawn Hoskins (21st Dec 2016 - 16:37:56) Andrew A number of people have already been killed. 3 fatalities since I've lived here, one near death, one where the lady had almost every bone in her body broken and that does not include all the numerous car prangs. The 3 deaths were all down to other speeding drivers hitting cars that were abiding the law. The last death was a 19 year old boy, the one before that was an 18 year old girl.

Re: Yet another RTA at Passfield Junction. - J (21st Dec 2016 - 17:18:45) Is this the junction opposite the Passfield Stores?

Re: Yet another RTA at Passfield Junction. - Richard (21st Dec 2016 - 18:25:13) Perhaps the Highways authority need to be prevailed upon to investigate some appropriate road engineering to mitigate this particular junction. This road used to be a 60mph limit. Do we have more or less accidents per year now, than before the speed limit change? Could the continuing spread of speed limits cause some drivers to get frustrated and just ignore speed limits? We all know that speed limits are an emotive subject, (see the previous thread re Longmoor Road speed limits), but if accidents keep on occurring, despite a low posted speed limit, then clearly the speed change has been ineffective. I am not a road engineer but things that spring to mind are high grip surfaces, change the junction profile (don't know to what shape though!), Cut the vegetation back to improve sight lines...there is likely a lot more that can be done.

Re: Yet another RTA at Passfield Junction. - dave (21st Dec 2016 - 18:32:06) Is Passfield the only village where the speed limit actually goes up (from 30 to 40) as you enter the village?

Re: Yet another RTA at Passfield Junction. - Jan P (21st Dec 2016 - 18:39:05) This problem could be solved by putting a mini roundabout in. There was a proposal to put one there a few years ago, but was abandoned for some reason. Admittedly, there will always be somebody who will ignore whatever steps are taken, but it may help to improve the situation. I just wonder how many more lives have to be lost before something is done.

Re: Yet another RTA at Passfield Junction. - H (21st Dec 2016 - 18:58:36) The road was closed last week for repairs and they've substantially cut back the trees etc . Also resurfaced in places . Wait until we've got 40+ more houses here . Itll only get worse !

Re: Yet another RTA at Passfield Junction. - H (21st Dec 2016 - 19:06:20) And the accident wasn't at "Passfield junction". It happened by the Lynchborough Road junction

Re: Yet another RTA at Passfield Junction. - david (21st Dec 2016 - 21:40:23) Its my understanding that the parents of the 19 year old girl that was killed some years ago raised the money to put a roundabout at that point of the road. the council spent some of it changing the lay out a bit but didn't want to put the roundabout in. its a shame because it would sort a lot of the mess out around there.

Re: Yet another RTA at Passfield Junction. - Dawn Hoskins (21st Dec 2016 - 21:46:51) I am told that the accident began with the corner [off the B3004] - which is the junction opposite the shop - the driver lost control of the vehicle in the stretch between the corner and the entrance to Lynchborough Road - where it finished it's roll in the drainage ditch. That is also what happened previously, but last time there was a vehicle coming from Whitehill driving towards the car that was out of control. resulting in the death of the passenger. Both junctions are incredibly dangerous and both have ultimately led to the death of innocent victims.

Re: Yet another RTA at Passfield Junction. - Richard (21st Dec 2016 - 22:15:41) Judging from what Dawn is saying the issue lies with the junction bell mouth that is encouraging people to take the corner too fast...Make it narrower? Re-profile it, so it is not a sweeping turn?

Re: Yet another RTA at Passfield Junction. - dave (22nd Dec 2016 - 10:26:33) Reduce the speed limit to 30?

Re: Yet another RTA at Passfield Junction. - Wendy (22nd Dec 2016 - 10:43:42) Installation of a speed camera would deter speeders!

Re: Yet another RTA at Passfield Junction. - Bob (22nd Dec 2016 - 10:51:59) The traffic coming from Liphook needs to be effectively slowed down, thus realign the junction so that the exit from the Hollwater Road is at 90 degrees, to enter the Road from the B3004 you would have to slow down. It will not be done Money again

Re: Yet another RTA at Passfield Junction. - Dawn Hoskins (22nd Dec 2016 - 11:27:12) It's like some sort of postcode lottery isn't' it. When you drive through Lindford and see all the traffic calming bumps and roundabouts - where (to my knowledge correct me if I'm wrong) no one has been killed. Yet here we have an accident blackspot that has damaged people, damaged cars, and caused death. Numerous times. I hear what you're saying about the sweeping corner. The irony is that the corner did used to be a tighter (slower) turn. They re-designed it specifically to make is shallower and easier to drive around! On purpose! Hey presto - what a surprise to the traffic engineers - people started driving around it much faster? Go figure! I don't want to cause traffic hold-ups or problems, but equally, I don't want all this death and destruction on my doorstep. The candles lit at birthdays and Christmas are too heartbreaking to bear. Imagine if it was your child that was painfully snuffed out in an horrific bloody mess. Imagine this happened AFTER the council had been told again and again that 3 people have already died in this way! How worthless does that make the life you have lost - when making the road safe is held to be too inconvenient or too expensive.

Re: Yet another RTA at Passfield Junction. - Richard (22nd Dec 2016 - 15:08:13) So next time a speed limit is proposed to fix an issue, push back and get the underlying issue addressed first.

Re: Yet another RTA at Passfield Junction. - eddie (22nd Dec 2016 - 15:22:11) Theres nothing wrong with the junction if taken at sensible speed, it is only a problem if you are driving like an idiot.

Re: Yet another RTA at Passfield Junction. - Richard (22nd Dec 2016 - 17:58:43) Eddie, you are correct, but some people will choose to speed, so why not engineer the road to make it safer? Some people just need protecting from themselves...

Re: Yet another RTA at Passfield Junction. - Dawn Hoskins (22nd Dec 2016 - 20:04:22) It is idiots that cause the problems. Agreed. Speed signs are useless for people who are determined to ignore them. To save the lives of people who are not idiots, we must all be treated like idiots. Inconvenient I know - but - it could be my Son, Dad, Sister that is saved by the speed camera / traffic lights (whatever).

Re: Yet another RTA at Passfield Junction. - Rachel (23rd Dec 2016 - 01:30:15) So what happened to the money raised by the family for a roundabout?

Re: Yet another RTA at Passfield Junction. - Paul (27th Dec 2016 - 22:49:57) As I have stated previously. People travel far too fast into the junction and also into Lynchborough Road. This includes local residents as last year a MX5 lost control coming into the entrance as i was approaching it. If the locals show disregard for any speed limits, what would be the point of decreasing the limit or any other regulations because they would only be ignored.

Re: Yet another RTA at Passfield Junction. - Dawn Hoskins (30th Dec 2016 - 15:39:37) I agree that the junction is safe when taken at a reasonable speed. I also agree that idiot who speed don't take notice of road speed signs. The only way is a financial cost to drivers going too fast - whether they cause and accident or not. The problem then is that Councils don't want to pay to have the speed cameras erected as all the money goes to central government but it is local councils who have to pay to purchase and maintain with no additional funds coming their way.

Re: Yet another RTA at Passfield Junction. - Dawn Hoskins (21st Feb 2018 - 10:37:54) All of the sirens and helicopters etc. I hope no lives are lost today from this dangerous junction. It sounds pretty bad. another accident in passfield (15th Jul 2007) Passfield junction. The death of Robyn France (5th Oct 2007)

Re: Yet another RTA at Passfield Junction. - H (21st Feb 2018 - 11:22:16) It's only just happened . Thoughts with all involved. Air ambulance managed to land on Passfield green

Re: Yet another RTA at Passfield Junction. - N (21st Feb 2018 - 11:31:12) This week a blue pick up with kids in the back was up my backside on Lynchborough Road and couldn't wait for me to manoeuvre into my drive. My indicator would have told you that i was turning left, instead you decide to try and overtake when I'm half way through pulling in. slow down! God knows what it'll be like when we have 40+ houses built here!

Re: Yet another RTA at Passfield Junction. - Willo (21st Feb 2018 - 21:55:27) Just terrible. I live on this road and the speed of many drivers jjust makes me cringe. Not just cars but delivery lorries, AMK and Luff all drive to fast for the road. Not sure what can ne done but hopefully something.

Re: Yet another RTA at Passfield Junction. - Deb (22nd Feb 2018 - 15:55:06) Hi was this at the crossroads I'm not sure of what the road names are called but when we come back from bordon and sit at this crossroad I wind down my window so I can hear traffic coming from the right but also keep on looking as I'm driving out its very horrible if this is the one you mean being one false move that's it your car can be wiped out . Plus no matter how slow you can come out of there as you try to pull out there's always vehicles going so fast up that road . I prefer it in the dark I still have my window down and radio turned off but in dark you can see head lights . I really hate that place and dread driving coming home that way but I'm used to the route and do not know my way back to liphook using other roads through bordon etc . I don't care whom is behind me as I will take my time in pulling out . I wish something could be done like traffic lights to make it easier pulling out of there whether it's to go straight across the junction or turning left .

Re: Yet another RTA at Passfield Junction. - Alison Keatings (22nd Feb 2018 - 19:37:50) Wendy has it in one, Get speed cameras, Thatl sort the inconsiderate speeding idiots out! I had some idiot driver tooting at me and being angry because I was doing 30mph near Radford Park, when I got to the village I kept my limit and he tooted again, then sped off like an idiot, he was driving a mini, he shouldn't be driving if he's like that

Re: Yet another RTA at Passfield Junction. - dave (22nd Feb 2018 - 20:55:48) Alison - Speed cameras wouldn't help as the speed limit goes UP as you enter Passfield, even though its is an accident blackspot with several RTA fatalities. The increase in speed limit send a message to drivers that it is safe to increase speed as you drive through the village. Making the speed limit in Passfield the same as that on either side of the village and painting double white lines through the village would probably cost less than the cost of calling out the Air Ambulance yesterday and would go a long way to avoid further loss or life.

Re: Yet another RTA at Passfield Junction. - Mandi (22nd Feb 2018 - 21:39:09) I agree with the speed cameras also, dave what do drivers do when they see a speed cam??? They slow down, having been in the police force, I know this has helped immensely

Re: Yet another RTA at Passfield Junction. - Alison (22nd Feb 2018 - 21:42:05) Speed kills, drop the limit along that road then put speed cameras in, end of!

Re: Yet another RTA at Passfield Junction. - barry (23rd Feb 2018 - 00:37:45) There is nothing wrong with the speed limit, it’s the idiots at the junction

Re: Yet another RTA at Passfield Junction. - Spencer (23rd Feb 2018 - 17:37:59) Re: Yet another RTA at Passfield Junction. - N (21st Feb 2018 11:31:12)........... THIS IS MY REPLY TO THE COMMENT ABOUT THE BLUE TRUCK FOLLOWING YOU TO CLOSELY DOWN LYNCHBOROUGH ROAD....... I was the driver of that truck and you were in a white Kia and live in lynchborough Road, ( information I’ve later found out since being told about your comment on here )...... so here goes, I was a suitable distance behind you with my kids onboard like you have stated, I couldn’t of possibly have been speeding as I was following you ( and I guess you weren’t speeding trying to pull onto your drive were you ) so when you decide to pull onto your drive in future I suggest you don’t use the whole carriageway to get your HGV SCANIA OPERATED KIA ONTO YOUR DRIVE BECAUSE OTHERWISE IT WILL GET SQUASHED. Lastly indicating means you could be pulling over on side of road as there isn’t a junction where you were haulting to, so I merely pulled out to pass your ARTICULATED VEHICLE, and to my surprise had to stop because you needed the whole road. SO IN FUTURE USE YOUR HAZARD LIGHTS TO MAKE THIS MANOUVERE AND THEN PEOPLE BEHIND YOU WILL HAVE A BETTER INDICATION OF WHATS GOING ON........ I hope that has cleared that silly comment that you have made on here on a post that concerns the main passfield straight where real incidents happen!!!!....... any further clarification required please call me on 07903602661 Graham

Re: Yet another RTA at Passfield Junction. - Michelle Jackson (23rd Feb 2018 - 17:56:08) Re: Yet another RTA at Passfield Junction. - N (21st Feb 2018 11:31:12) This week a blue pick up with kids in the back was up my backside on Lynchborough Road and couldn't wait for me to manoeuvre into my drive. My indicator would have told you that i was turning left, instead you decide to try and overtake when I'm half way through pulling in. slow down! God knows what it'll be like when we have 40+ houses built here! FYI and so we are clear on this matter. You failed to indicate what you were doing ? I am not telepathic ! I assumed you were going to pull into your driveway - instead with no indication you swung out onto Lynchborough Road to reverse into your driveway - please bear in mind that i was behind you none the wiser to what or where you were going. In future indicate , pullover and let the traffic go - then pull into your driveway - it’s not rocket science & FYI i don’t speed in Lynchborough Road especially with my children in the car.

Re: Yet another RTA at Passfield Junction. - Mandi (23rd Feb 2018 - 18:38:50) Careless drivers pulling out okay, but if they stuck to th e limits there wouldn't be fatalities, it's speed that kills, if drivers took due care and caution, there wouldn't be so many road deaths, speed cams are an excellent way to stop careless drivers.maybe drivers should have a re test after so long, as they obviously don't know their Highway code properly

Re: Yet another RTA at Passfield Junction. - N (23rd Feb 2018 - 19:41:55) Hi Michelle.. FYI it was a male driver. And I can guarantee you that I indicated in plenty of time . Perhaps if the driver wasn't so close to my bumper. I was shocked actually with the impatience considering kids were in the car. Those are the facts .

Re: Yet another RTA at Passfield Junction. - Willo (23rd Feb 2018 - 21:38:24) I nearly got taken out on this junction today by an idiot pulling out of Hollywater road. They almost pulled out in front of the minibus in front of me and then with complete disregard for any safety and to my complete disbelief pulled out maybe 4 meters in front of me. I had to slam the anchors on and the horn for this idiot. I very almost got out and had a word when we hit the Liphook traffic but decided to name and shame here instead.....Toyota YOTO driver reg RF54 ... you are an idiot. If you want to put yourself in danger fill your boots but don't endanger others by driving like a t**t.

Re: Yet another RTA at Passfield Junction. - Mikey B (23rd Feb 2018 - 22:02:33) ‘Spencer’, I have just read your post and you are completely in the wrong. Slow down and let the car in front do what it needs to do. If it has to swing out a bit to get into its drive that is fine. It sounds like you tried to overtake which is silly and dangerous. This often happens to me when I try and pull into my driveway on the Haslemere Road and the problem is impatient drivers, not people trying to get in their driveway.

Re: Yet another RTA at Passfield Junction. - Michelle Jackson (23rd Feb 2018 - 23:12:02) Hi Michelle.. FYI it was a male driver. And I can guarantee you that I indicated in plenty of time . Perhaps if the driver wasn't so close to my bumper. I was shocked actually with the impatience considering kids were in the car. Those are the facts . We all use the Truck - on this occasion it was one of my Son’s. My point is you have done this to me - with no indication whatsoever Its not ok you don’t own the road & its ignorance. Pull over and then reverse in This is not what this thread is about instead of being a keyboard warrior - knock my door

Re: Yet another RTA at Passfield Junction. - Penny (24th Feb 2018 - 11:29:00) No Mikey, it is you who are wrong. It is my understanding having read the posts that the Kia indicated left and then swung right onto the Lynchborough Road to reverse into the driveway. You DO NOT INDICATE LEFT AND THEN PULL OUT TO THE RIGHT. As the driver behind said he is not telepathic. N, you say that you indicated left in plenty of time – exactly – you indicated that you were pulling over to the left NOT THEN SWINGING OUT TO THE RIGHT. An action completely lacking in common sense, safety, good driving and consideration for other road users.

Re: Yet another RTA at Passfield Junction. - Jen (24th Feb 2018 - 12:23:00) I agree with Penny. If there are cars behind you and you need to move out to the right in order to pull into a driveway on the left, then you should do one of these: a) indicate left and pull over to the left, then wait until the road is clear before making your manoeuvre into the driveway. b) indicate right and pull out to the right to get into position, turn on hazard lights, check both directions are safe before carrying out your manoeuvre into the driveway. What you definitely should NOT do is indicate left, thereby informing following drivers that you are about to pull in to the left, but then pull out to the right instead!

Re: Yet another RTA at Passfield Junction. - oldie (24th Feb 2018 - 15:41:11) Deb, if you have to wind your window down to listen for cars, maybe it's time to go to Specsavers! Also pulling out as slow as you can probably isn't the way to do it on a fast road, you've got to be sure then do it snappy. Mind you every one of us seems to have a different opinion! If there's no consistent teaching, I blame the driving instructors! Jen I don't agree with your advice on how to turn left, pulling up on the left isn't necessary, but indicating right, pulling onto the right lane then putting your hazards on... don't get me started! From teenage boys to builders and delivery drivers trying to beat the clock to mums on the school rush, I'm sure something needs to be done, I recommend advance driving tests for all. Then you will all know how to obey speed limits, pull out of turnings etc! There will always be crashes, driving is way too brilliant to be ruined completely by health and safety worries, there are zillions of risky activities in life, few of them bring so much enjoyment and practicality to life at so little human cost (awful as it is when a bad crash occurs), in fact the economy depends on us being able to zip around, so no speed humps or 30mph zones please! I know most of you can't drive as well as me, (I can't blame you for that), so maybe traffic lights there, this junction is notorious and will only get worse as Bordon doubles in size and Liphook is their mainline station of choice!

Re: Yet another RTA at Passfield Junction. - Richard (24th Feb 2018 - 18:17:53) From the Highway Code: Rule 182: Use your mirrors and give a left-turn signal well before you turn left. Do not overtake just before you turn left and watch out for traffic coming up on your left before you make the turn, especially if driving a large vehicle. Cyclists, motorcyclists and other road users in particular may be hidden from your view. Rule 183: keep as close to the left as is safe and practicable give way to any vehicles using a bus lane, cycle lane or tramway from either direction. Seems fairly straight forward to me.

Re: Yet another RTA at Passfield Junction. - Jen (24th Feb 2018 - 21:45:34) Re: Yet another RTA at Passfield Junction.  - oldie (24th Feb 2018  15:41:11) "Jen I don't agree with your advice on how to turn left, pulling up on the left isn't necessary, but indicating right, pulling onto the right lane then putting your hazards on... don't get me started!" Oldie, I wasn't describing how to turn left! This was about how to pull out onto the right hand side of the road in order to be perpendicular to - and then reverse into - a driveway that is on the left.

Re: Yet another RTA at Passfield Junction. - Deb (25th Feb 2018 - 10:02:34) Oldie ! I'm talking about another junction it wasn't the one mentioned I know where the one everyone is talking about I'm quite capable of pulling out of there thank you very much I was talking about the one in hollywater which I haven't a clue where it actually is but some people must know where I'm talking about It's bloody dangerous and I don't care what you say I have my child in the car and if you pull out too far you can have your car wiped out by the cars that come past at a speed . So don't come on here behind a screen telling me I need to go to spec savers ! Tell me to my face then I can tell you what dangerous junction it is I find this one far too dangerous to what everyone is talking about on here it's the one where it says rip the next crossroads from there . So please don't tell me when I got my child in the back of the car I just pull out shall I next time with just looking a few times and hope for the best it's a nasty road to pull out of ! How bloody dare you

Re: Yet another RTA at Passfield Junction. - Deb (25th Feb 2018 - 10:06:54) And oldie Those dotted lines across the road are the give way lines I need to stop before pulling out prompto. Oh and it's not a road you can pull out fast of anyway being you cannot see what's coming to the right clearly hence my comment . Sorry I think you need to retake your driving test Oldie.

Re: Yet another RTA at Passfield Junction. - Deb (25th Feb 2018 - 10:12:19) Hollywater road I just googled it . Horrid horrid junction lots of people have said it's nasty getting out of there . So please don't tell me I need spec savers and wind your neck in . As I'm being cautious with my child in the car and actually taking tips from when my driving instructor taught me to drive ! I rest my case !

Re: Yet another RTA at Passfield Junction. - Richard (25th Feb 2018 - 11:48:10) I have a tip for getting out of Hollywater Road when turning right. Most of us angle our cars to make it easier to turn in the intended direction, but it can have a side effect that various bits of seats, and passengers and cars can obstruct the view marginally. To mitigate this, I pull up to the junction perpendicular, which for me improves the sight lines, and gives me a better view of oncoming traffic. This gives me another second or so in which to pull out, as I can see vehicles further away, Another thing that helps is encouraging the council to keep the verge trimmed back. I know one year it was very long, and the sightlines were poor, but once the verges were cut back matters were improved.

Re: Yet another RTA at Passfield Junction. - oldie (25th Feb 2018 - 13:20:39) Jen, thanks for clarifying that for an oldie, reversing in, that makes perfect sense to me now!

Re: Yet another RTA at Passfield Junction. - Deb (25th Feb 2018 - 14:05:51) Hi Richard thank you for your sensible response. Good pointers :) . It gets very bad to see when it's not cut right back ! I had noticed that it Obstructs the view and besides people drive more than 30/40 down that road no consideration for other road users ! Thank you for your input

Re: Yet another RTA at Passfield Junction. - S (27th Feb 2018 - 13:33:48) I had a near miss last week - I didn't see a motorcyclist and pulled out of Hollywater road. Luckily I managed to stop and he managed to swerve round me. But it's worth noting that no-one was speeding, and it was clear and dry. The motorcyclist was between 2 cars which obscured my view and because the second car was turning left into Hollywater Rd, I believed I was able to pull out, not having seen the motorbike. I glanced left to check it was still clear and pulled out. Anyway - lesson learned - look for motorcyclists between cars...... it could have been really nasty for the motorcyclist as he could have slammed straight into me at 40mph - a chilling thought. And if the rider is reading this - so sorry - I've had my wake-up call.

Re: Yet another RTA at Passfield Junction. - Deb (27th Feb 2018 - 17:47:25) Hi forgot to say I was turning left on the hollywater road not right But what ever direction left or right its horrible getting out of that road . Where the crossroads are That's why I do what I do to try and be careful as I can coming out of there !

Re: Yet another RTA at Passfield Junction. - concerned road user (2nd Mar 2018 - 12:20:28) Please be aware of an Orange Kia, TYP end of No plate. He is a dangerous and inconsiderate passfield to Liphook road user. I was travelling on Wed towards Liphook, doing 40 MPH as that is the limit, then when the 30mph area I reduced speed. He was too close, but thats not unusal. Just past Tunbridge Close there was road works, with traffic lights. I slowed up, as it was red, Said kia driver was not happy and OVERTOOK me running a red! No regard for anyother road user or workers. He gained nothing, and he must of been in dire need of reaching sainsburys..... Too many people have lost their lives on local roads, ppl like this are dangerous!

Re: Yet another RTA at Passfield Junction. - Ann (3rd Mar 2018 - 15:54:56) Regarding Richard's remarks about junction of Lynchborough Road and Hollywater Road and the council keeping the vegetation cut back - on three separate occasions I went out with shears and cut all the vegetation back on the left hand side of this junction last Summer because nothing had been done and I could not see what was coming from the left on the Hollywater Road - the sight lines were awful.

Re: Yet another RTA at Passfield Junction. - Julian (4th Mar 2018 - 10:20:58) Two weeks ago there was another accident at the junction of Passfield Road and the B3004, 80 meters from Hollywater road. Luckily no one was seriously injured, although they were a little battered and bruised. I understand that Speed was not a factor in this accident, but in general drivers travelling in and around Passfield & Hollywater do so at excessive speed and further accidents are inevitable. Given that there are several dangerous junctions, not to mention lack of pavements nor safe passage for pedestrians and cyclists, should something be done? Speed limit reminders and general road safety signage is not adequate or missing. Speed limits are not enforced. I recently raised a recurring speeding issue with Hampshire County Council and this is their response I understand that you have recently contacted the County Council regarding the above matter. At the present time, the County Council’s Traffic Management (TM) team has no proposals for TM measures (such as signs and markings) at Passfield Road. As part of a reduction in the County Council’s TM service, priority for such measures is primarily being given to those sites where there are existing injury accident problems in terms of numbers of accidents, accident severity, common contributory factors and identifiable patterns. Having checked the five year injury accident record for the site in question, there is no such problem on this occasion and I am therefore unable to recommend any further action in this instance. For your advice and assistance, you will find below a link to the County Council’s 2016 TM policy report which gives more details of the way forward for this service: hants.gov.uk/transport/roadsafety/makingroadssafer As per the above link, the policy scales back generally on the delivery of TM measures that do not clearly demonstrate a casualty reduction benefit. In particular, the County Council is scaling back work on larger scale TM measures (such as lower speed limits, physical traffic calming measures and heavy goods vehicle controls) unless required to support casualty reduction. With regard to your concerns about excessive speed, the Police are responsible for speed-related enforcement generally and speed limit enforcement specifically – you will find below a link to the Road Safety page on Hampshire Constabulary’s website for your advice and assistance: hampshire.police.uk/advice/vehicles-and-road-safety/... Thank you for your enquiry For anyone who may with to contact Hampshire County Council the details are as follows; Ian Janes Traffic Management (East Hampshire & Havant) Economy, Transport & Environment Department Hampshire County Council Elizabeth II Court West, The Castle Winchester, Hampshire, SO23 8UD Telephone – 0300 555 1388 ian.janes@hants.gov.uk www3.hants.gov.uk

Re: Yet another RTA at Passfield Junction. - N (4th Mar 2018 - 11:15:16) No such problem within the past 5 years ? Tell that to the family of the man who died at the junction of Lynchborough Road in 2015 !

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