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headley road...? - kayleigh (28th Apr 2015 - 19:15:43) hi all, im just wondering has anyone else noticed the camera shape box thing, on a lamp post half way down headley road before you get to co op from the village...? was just wondering what it is for...?

Re: headley road...? - Curt Twitcher (28th Apr 2015 - 19:42:14) Hopefully it's a speed camera.

Re: headley road...? - Ian (28th Apr 2015 - 19:54:51) I suspect that with the number of complaints about the traffic congestion along the Headley Road, alledegy caused by the cars parked, Highways are probably monitoring the situation to see if parking restrictions will need to be applied

Re: headley road...? - Lucy (29th Apr 2015 - 13:46:23) I think the cars parked down Headley Road is a good thing, it makes cars slow down a bit, especially for those who live on the road who struggle to pull out of their drives (me!). Though obviously not good for those who have to park there due to wing mirrors being clipped. Plus not all residents have drives to park on, so have no choice but to park on the road, so I can't see parking restrictions being implemented. Besides, its the roundabout that causes the traffic, not the parked cars.

Re: headley road...? - Jackie Bond (29th Apr 2015 - 17:52:15) Well I live opposite all the vans currently parked on headley roads and is proving a nightmare getting in and out of my drive! I completely disagree that it calms traffic it is just making people do more and more risky manouveres! I have to indicate to go round the vans then stop directly next to them in the oncoming traffic and indicate again to pull into my drive - I have had a few cars squeal to a stop behind me despite me indicating again plus running the gauntlet with oncoming traffic!

Re: headley road...? - Steve Jones (29th Apr 2015 - 19:22:00) Earlier on today I took a few minutes to look at said box. The Box does in fact have two Camera/radar monitors, From information researched the device is the following: How it works As a vehicle passes an ANPR camera, its registration number is read and instantly checked against database records of vehicles of interest. Police officers can intercept and stop a vehicle, check it for evidence and, where necessary, make arrests. A record for all vehicles passing by a camera is stored, including those for vehicles that are not known to be of interest at the time of the read that may in appropriate circumstances be accessed for investigative purposes. The use of ANPR in this way has proved to be important in the detection of many offences, including locating stolen vehicles, tackling uninsured vehicle use and solving cases of terrorism, major and organised crime. It also allows officers’ attention to be drawn to offending vehicles whilst allowing law abiding drivers to go about their business unhindered. Access to stored data ANPR data from each police force is submitted to the National ANPR Data Centre (NADC) where it is stored together with similar data from other forces for a period of two years. We have clear rules to control access to ANPR data to ensure that access is for legitimate investigation purposes. Members of staff only have access to ANPR data if it is relevant to their role, and the majority of those who have permission may only do so for a maximum period of 90 days from the date it was collected. Some staff are authorised to access data for up to 2 years subject to authorisation of a senior officer. After 90 days, access may only be for serious, major or counter terrorism investigations and after 12 months only for major investigations and counter terrorism purposes. Searches of ANPR data can confirm whether vehicles associated with a known criminal has been in the area at the time of a crime and can dramatically speed up investigations. Camera locations In addition to being mounted within police vehicles, ANPR cameras within police forces are used at fixed locations where they will help to detect, deter and disrupt criminality. In line with national policy, we do not disclose details of our fixed locations as this information is likely to be of benefit to offenders and if known could reduce the value of ANPR to policing. National guidelines state that, if a police force proposes to install additional ANPR cameras, an assessment must be conducted that demonstrates a clear need, taking account of the following factors: national security and counter terrorism; serious, organised and major crime; local crime; community confidence and reassurance, and crime prevention and reduction. In assessing whether new cameras are to be deployed, a Privacy Impact Assessment will be undertaken. The law enforcement agency will consult with persons and organisations with a reasonable interest in the proposal unless that would be contrary to the purpose of the development, namely to detect, deter and disrupt criminality. Law enforcement agencies are also committed to regularly review the location of ANPR cameras, in the context of the above criteria, to make sure that the continued deployment remains justified. All reviews will include consideration of the impacts on privacy.

Re: headley road...? - liz (30th Apr 2015 - 09:16:08) The Headley Road must be a hotbed of crime!!

Re: headley road...? - I P Daley (30th Apr 2015 - 10:53:56) Now it's been clearly advertised the crims will take the Longmoor and London Roads into Liphook. Bees to a honey pot.

Re: headley road...? - liz (30th Apr 2015 - 11:47:18) A bit 'Big Brother' for Liphook isn't it?!

Re: headley road...? - kayleigh (30th Apr 2015 - 19:39:41) maybe i shouldnt of pointed out this...for all the 'naughty' people of liphook to know about...? but like someone said in a post above if they find out what it is they will just use other roads into the village, unless the other roads have one of these aswell...?

Re: headley road...? - Steve (1st May 2015 - 00:15:22) All to do with traffic monitoring for the new housing estate.

Re: headley road...? - DH (1st May 2015 - 08:22:01) I think the issue comes from the lack of parking space in residents front gardens. Have you looked down Tower Road lately? I reckon most of those cars belong to Headly Road residents. There was a time, a long time ago, when you could park in the co-op car park out of hours, but that has since been stopped. And for the record, I don't need a speed trap to tell you, no one drives Headly Road at 30 miles an hour, in fact no one drives Liphook at 20miles an hour either!! It's a fact of life......... Driving through Liphook is a nightmare at any time of day, It's the price you pay for living in a village!!

Re: headley road...? - H (30th Sep 2015 - 14:52:58) Parking on the Headley Road I don't care what anyone says, this situation is becoming DANGEROUS. Traffic queues back past the A3 bridge during rush hour, Lorries trying to navigate around parked vehicles on one of the main arteries into Liphook etc etc!!!! And no, it's not about drivers being impatient, YOU ARE CAUSING traffic backlog and dangerous situations for motorists and pedestrians alike. USE YOUR DRIVEWAY AND PARK IN IT!!!!

Re: headley road...? - Frances White (30th Sep 2015 - 15:54:54) I totally agree with H. The parking in Headley Road is a nightmare. The Headley Road is now so busy that this inconsiderate parking causes backlogs right back to the A3 bridge is busy times. I wonder what would have to be done to have the whole road double yellow lined?

Re: headley road...? - D (30th Sep 2015 - 16:08:59) It is particularly dangerous after dark. Nearly involved in an accident last evening when a young "lady" came past the parked cars at a high rate of knots and saluted me with 2 fingers.

Re: headley road...? - Sarah (30th Sep 2015 - 18:13:05) I completely agree. Sometimes it is hard to see past the first parked car to see if there is a pull in space ahead. It is becoming dangerous.

Re: headley road...? - Jackie Bond (1st Oct 2015 - 08:00:47) I struggle to even get out of my drive in the morning as all parked opposite and pulling in even worse as drivers behind assume I am only indicating to go round the parked cars not that I need to pull up next to them to take the tight turn into my driveway. I've witnessed two clipped wing mirrors and a rear smash in the last year alone on the parked cars.

Re: headley road...? - Dawn Hoskins (1st Oct 2015 - 11:25:16) Just knock the wall down, get a dropped curb, and park on your own property. SIMPLE & CHEAP (and no reason not to). Or maybe they take some sadistic pleasure at the traffic chaos and ill-feeling they are creating?!! Maybe they take bets on how far down the road they can make the traffic jam spread to, or how many people will miss their trains etc - and have a giggle about it....... Why else would they continue to cause such deliberate mayhem when the solution is so cheap and easy?

Re: headley road...? - Sarah (1st Oct 2015 - 11:41:24) Does anyone know who (i.e council department) we should complain to? I'm not normally a complainer but it can get a bit hairy along there now whichever direction you travel in. I get the feeling that it's happening so much that people are getting less patient with one another.

Re: headley road...? - Phil (1st Oct 2015 - 13:28:01) I think the cars / vans are parked outside properties that have driveways? Will stand corrected on that. It is dangerous. Especially if on a bike. And cars have to pull onto the other side of the road into oncoming traffic. All the time. BTW the cars parking on the corner of Longmoor Road and Forest Lane Close are rally unsafe. How are they getting away with parking on an apex of a junction, unlit, and facing into the oncoming traffic?

Re: headley road...? - J (1st Oct 2015 - 13:44:38) Report Road Problems in Hampshire might be a good place to start? www.hants.gov.uk/roadproblems Report it as a safety concern? You can also log it online using Post Code GU30 7NS (39 ish Headly Road) here; roadenquiries.hants.gov.uk/roadproblems/... If you find out any more info please can you post it here? I think the more individuals that register a concern, the more likely the Council are likely to react.

Re: headley road...? - Ali (1st Oct 2015 - 23:41:39) The cars and or vans that are parked along the road do NOT all belong to the residents. I have seen parents parking there then walking there children down to the school blocking driveways so myself for one not being able to get in or out of my own driveway. As for knocking down walls and dropping the kerb have you not seen the electric pole this would have to be moved of which inquiries have been made at a cost of ten thousand pound.

Re: headley road...? - Faye (2nd Oct 2015 - 08:29:04) From my understanding and correct me if I am wrong but the wall Dawn is referring to is listed, so it cannot simply be knocked down. I used to live in one of those houses and actually, some of the houses do NOT have driveways so yes the residents are likely to park there. In fact, I can imagine it is a nuisance for those people when non-residents park there, because they have no where else to park! Do you really think residents WANT to park there knowing the risk of their cars being clipped?

Re: headley road...? - Sarah (2nd Oct 2015 - 08:36:27) This can't be blamed on school parents again. Whilst there may be some that do for short periods of time (which I understand must be very annoying) the parking problem is often at its worst in the late afternoon and evening. This has very little to do with parents.

Re: headley road...? - Beth (2nd Oct 2015 - 09:48:51) I live on the Headley Road and have to sit in traffic every morning but it's not due to the parked cars. It's just rush hour traffic. Personally I'm glad of the parked cars, as it helps slow down the traffic. Too many people speed in and around the village. In my opinion, it's only a matter of time before somebody get seriously injured or killed by a speeding car. I really hope it's a speed camera. That 'box' disappeared after a few days, I believe.

Re: headley road...? - Sarah (2nd Oct 2015 - 12:26:22) The problem isn't 'sitting in traffic', which is always just a given at rush hour and used to happen before cars started parking there. The amount of traffic is not the problem It is the problem of safely getting around the parked cars into oncoming traffic. Or driving along the side with right of way and having people heading towards you with nowhere to pull in. It is becoming dangerous. That is the issue, not the traffic quantity.

Re: headley road...? - Beth (2nd Oct 2015 - 13:22:28) As I said before I drive passed the parked cars daily. Personally I don't see them as a safety concerned. They help slow down the traffic. Why shouldn't people be allowed to park outside their homes, when there isn't an option for drop curbs or driveways. People need to stop driving like complete idiots through the village. Stop speeding, text and talking on mobiles. They are real safety concerns.

Re: headley road...? - Sarah (2nd Oct 2015 - 14:13:13) Beth, I think we simply have different opinions and possibly different experiences of the problems caused by the traffic. Those same people you refer to speeding through the village are the same ones hurtling round parked cars or playing chicken as they zoom towards people trying to get around the parked cars. This isn't a thread about mobile phones in cars, it is about the dangers those parked cars are creating for other drivers. I have experienced this several times as have many others. Just because you have not experienced it does not make me wrong. It is true, it is nice for people to park outside their own homes, but not when it is a busy thoroughfare (like it or not) in the centre of the village. It has only started in the last few years and was never a big issue until recently.

Re: headley road...? - Beth (2nd Oct 2015 - 17:34:19) Clearly different opinions Sarah. Just because parked cars is your issue. I think you'll find the thread was actually started about a strange box down Headley Road. Nothing to do with parked cars. Like yourself I was just making my view known. Thank you. I still hope that the box was something to do with speed monitoring. Then the issue of people driving around parked cars wouldn't be such an issue, would it.

Re: headley road...? - Phil (2nd Oct 2015 - 19:37:39) Sarah I agree with you. Regardless of time of day or flow of traffic, the plain fact is that cars parked on Headley Road do cause other motorists - dozens of them- and other road users (cyclists) to regularly have to cross onto the wrong side of the road and often into oncoming traffic This isn't about inconvenience or listed walls - it's about a hazard caused to other drivers and cyclists.

Re: headley road...? - Cyclist's View (2nd Oct 2015 - 20:28:24) If people aren't confident to drive around parked cars, take a refresher course, until then, please stay off our roads! PS It's a built up village road, not a motorway.

Re: headley road...? - Mat (2nd Oct 2015 - 21:22:43) I think the road should be double yellow lined, if you want to park outside your house get one with a driveway or park in safe place and walk to your home. Don't inconvenience others for your selfish or laziness.

Re: headley road...? - Sarah (2nd Oct 2015 - 23:30:43) To the 'cyclist's view' comment, for heaven's sake, this is not about confidence, this is about dangerous driving and reduced visibility (a row of parked cars effectively making this a slalom run). Why on earth are people so annoyed by drivers saying this is dangerous? If we have experienced dangerous driving along that road due to parked cars who are you to tell us we haven't? Beth, yes, the original post was about the box, but the recent postings on this topic by someone else brought up the subject of the parked cars and I responded to this. I have said my piece and reported it to the council. I find it dangerous, as do many others and I hope something is done about it.

Re: headley road...? - Jackie Bond (3rd Oct 2015 - 08:21:18) Sarah I completely agree with you the parked cars are a complete liability - I live opposite them so have first hand consistent experience with problems they cause day and night! One car isn't an issue but more often it's a 5 car stretch on a busy road with no where to pull in. At night the answer seems to be just honk your horn whilst swerving round them and dodging the oncoming traffic.

Re: headley road...? - Beth (3rd Oct 2015 - 08:42:49) I was actually going to say the same thing. If you can't drive around a parked car you shouldn't be driving in the first place. As for not agreeing with my opinion Sarah. You clearly state that a problem with the parked cars, is people speeding, playing chicken and zooming in and out of spaces. Slightly contraindicating yourself there. Speeding is clearly an issue on the Headley Road and within the village and one that needs to be addressed before somebody gets hurt.

Re: headley road...? - Sarah (3rd Oct 2015 - 12:51:19) Beth, I have no idea what you are talking about with me contradicting myself. I have said the parked cars are dangerous and are made more so for the careful (and yet perhaps confident!) drivers by those who drive dangerously (which can mean speeding or even not giving way at a slow and reasonable speed). This isn't about being pedantic with the words and phrases I have chosen to use (which is simply childishly annoying, not clever). My opinion Is simple - The parked cars cause or exacerbate dangerous (whether at high or legal speed) driving. Lots of people on here are agreeing with me. We have seen and experienced it. Please stop picking holes in my wording, it is about the facts not the way I have phrased myself!

Re: headley road...? - Greg (3rd Oct 2015 - 13:26:10) I must be missing something here !!! I travel through the village most morning along Headley Road , what I have noticed, is once I have passed the parked cars , I still have to wait to get through the mini roundabouts .. So the net of this is , the parked cars don't actually cause me any delay .. I must be the only one on this thread that this happens to. I would like to support the people of our village and not the people that use it as a rat run, personally I think this is where we should be focusing. Greg

Re: headley road...? - Beth (3rd Oct 2015 - 14:27:58) Well Sarah, I think you are wrong and I disagree with you. That\'s all, not trying to be childish. Just stating that you did agree that speeding and driving like an idiot around the parked cars is a problem. If you don\'t think speeding or driving like an idiot down Headley Road is an issue or dangerous and that a stationary car is, that\'s your opinion. Yes and others agree with you, well done. I simply don\'t and hope the box was for speed monitoring.

Re: headley road...? - Brian (3rd Oct 2015 - 21:26:58) I travel on Headley Road a number of times during the week and I witness on a number of occasions drivers speeding up to get past these cars to avoid stopping and especially while school children are on their way to school and I personally get held up in traffic trying to get past these cars then proceed to the roundabout and beyond with no trouble. Its just inconsiderate but as its been like this since I moved to the area 8 years ago I'm guessing its never gonna change.

Re: headley road...? - Jonathan (3rd Oct 2015 - 22:28:36) I came back from the dump along Headley Road yesterday afternoon and instantly regretted not turning left down Tower Road to come back up to the Square that way. Maybe making it one-way would help...

Re: headley road...? - Sarah (3rd Oct 2015 - 23:26:05) Beth, you have lost me completely. I agree, the parked cars are dangerous and speeding is dangerous. The two combined = doubly dangerous. I fully agree. So what is your point?

Re: headley road...? - A Cyclist View (again) (4th Oct 2015 - 11:23:09) Sarah, there is a safer way to overtake parked cars, slow down, give way and look to see if it's clear and safe to overtake, then indicate and move out, just like our driving instructors taught us back in the day (I'm guessing they still do?). By employing this simple strategy you can usually avoid confrontation with oncoming cars, pedestrians and cyclists! But nowadays people see parked cars and instead of slowing down, they hit the accelerator and think "I'm gonna get through fast, mustn't lose any time" and they pull out, get past the first car and realise there's someone coming the other way, also thinking "I ain't gonna give way to you" and then they panic, hit the brakes and pull in, whilst the oncoming car speeds past, glaring at each other instead of looking at the road, two people in a terrible hurry. All the while blaming the parked cars for nearly causing a collision. "Damn those parked cars nearly crashed into us!" It's modern life I guess to always be in such a hurry, but a competent driver should slow down, give way and look beyond the parked cars before commencing an overtaking manoeuvre, especially as there are a lot of young kids around here.

Re: headley road...? - Motorcyclist (4th Oct 2015 - 12:01:37) It's not just parked cars causing traffic problems. The volume of traffic in and out of Liphook on Headley Road, London Road, Longmoor Road, Portsmouth Road, Midhurst Road and Haslemere Road. Combined with the roads constantly being dug up and not resurfaced properly, Is causing huge pot holes, sunken and raised drains. As a motorcyclist not only do we put up with idiot drivers not giving way at roundabouts, therefore not keeping a constant flow of traffic. I have to avoid being cut up and nearly knocked off due to impatient drivers stuck in very long ques,pot holes, raised and sunken drains dodging. There are hazardous everywhere in Liphook. If you can navigate these hazardous in Liphook without problems. You should be able to drive anywhere. Just keep calm and give way

Re: headley road...? - Sarah (4th Oct 2015 - 19:53:25) To 'A Cyclists view' - Are you assuming I am a speeding incompetent driver who can't overtake parked cars. I am the competent careful (not scared or timid or unable to overtake) driver who is complaining because I have faced those speeding incompetent drivers you refer to. I have clearly stated this! What is it with some people on this site who skim over what people have written and then twist it around and make up a scenario to attack the writer. I give up rational discussion!

Re: headley road...? - Freya (4th Oct 2015 - 20:26:20) Sarah some people who comment on here do it for shock value. They get a kick out of disagreeing with others point of view. Keep Calm and Agree to disagree. Don't give them the ammunition to upset you.

Re: headley road...? - Cyclist\'s View (yet again!) (4th Oct 2015 - 21:52:24) Sarah, thanks for clarifying that, then surely the problem is speeding drivers, not the parked cars, which is basically all I was trying to say, not aimed at your driving abilities personally, if it applied to any specific person (it didn't) it could have been DH or H or Frances or Jackie or Dawn or Phil or anyone else, I have no idea when I'm supposed to have attacked you, but sorry if you felt I did, please don't give up on rational discussion over that, could be a slight overreaction:) Freya, really, speak for yourself, it's a discussion or debate, call it what you will, people don't have a different opinion just to upset you!

Re: headley road...? - liz (5th Oct 2015 - 08:46:45) The Cyclist says "slow down, give way and look to see if it is safe to overtake then indicate and move". If only cyclists would do this our roads would generally be much safer (and so would they)!! Only last week a cyclist swerved across in front of us and then put his arm out to indicate....

Re: headley road...? - Freya (5th Oct 2015 - 08:56:27) Cyclists view No one has upset me. Interesting comment.

Re: headley road...? - Phil (5th Oct 2015 - 11:59:59) @Cyclists View - nope, not even slightly troubled by your remarks! Anyway - the issue with the parked cars relates to the creation of an obstruction. No-one is required to 'speed' around them. They still create an obstacle at speeds within the applicable limit. The simple fact is that the obstruction causes all road users to overtake onto the wrong side of the road (into oncoming traffic) and this brings inherent dangers that would not exist if the cars were not obstructing one side of the road. Just to reiterate the point. The issue is not one vehicle, it is when 3 or 4 are parked in a row with no space to pull in. When starting to pass the first vehicle it is impossible to see how many you have to pass or if there is space to pull-in in between them. It is nothing to do with speeding or timid drivers, just inconsiderate or thoughtless parking.

Re: headley road...? - D (5th Oct 2015 - 13:00:16) ED. An excellent summation.

Re: headley road...? - Jackie Bond (5th Oct 2015 - 13:31:37) Yes the Editor summarise exactly the point I made earlier it's the quantity of cars parked so close together that is the issue - 5 this morning! 1 would not be a problem.

Re: headley road...? - Jan (18th Feb 2016 - 11:33:10) See Post: Traffic Bedlam - Headley Road Ian - (21st Nov 2012 10:31:37) Will this problem ever get looked at properly!!!!

Re: headley road...? - Jan E (18th Feb 2016 - 14:58:02) I have lived in Liphook for the past 35 years, this problem has been going on all this time, but, one lives in hope that one day it will get resolved.

Re: headley road...? - Ginny Stacpoole (18th Feb 2016 - 16:40:25) Bearing in mind how long the front gardens are here, could not the kerb be lowered, and the walls moved back for off road parking, or am I missing something?

Re: headley road...? - Nana (24th Feb 2016 - 17:10:12) I live on the Headley road and and whilst I have access to a drive it is sometimes difficult and dangerous to negotiate to get the car off the drive ,particularly when people park inconsiderately.

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