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Are we still concerned about the Worlds Pandemic or not? - paul (20th Mar 2022 - 19:35:08) Hi, The disease Coronavirus is still very much with us and increasing, also with hospitalizations ticking up. Is Liphook helping it's residents in an emergency? The Government have not got the "balls" to re-introduce restrictions, not a vote winner. We are walking into a catastrophe in this country, and nobody in charge wants to put there hand up. Scientists have said for months we have gone to early lifting restrictions.. In the Far-East countries, Singapore, Hongkong, and New Zealand. They are still in serious lock-downs, with high infections, and heath care requirements. We are playing with fire by the people in charge, but will not admit it until round 2 "lockdowns" Stay safe, and good luck guys.

Re: Are we still concerned about the Worlds Pandemic or not? - AF (20th Mar 2022 - 22:10:37) Paul Go and live in a cave and stop this fear mongering rubbish. The virus will never disappear but the dominant strain of Omicron is NOT dangerous. To be honest the earlier strains weren't that dangerous anyway. I have been triple jabbed, I am using public transport to get to Brixton the most infected area of the country. I do not wear masks anywhere. I am also going to cinema and theatres. I’M NOT SCARED.

Re: Are we still concerned about the Worlds Pandemic or not? - WENDY MARTIN (21st Mar 2022 - 09:54:55) I think it is all to do with age, if you are young and fit, fine, you probably wouldn't get it badly, but us people over 80 are very concerned. I daresay some of the youngsters think we have had our life and are not to be taken into consideration. Well, speaking for myself I would rather enjoy the years I have left without worrying about catching the virus, we have quite a lot of other medical matters to think about, so we would rather avoid this added worry, and would appreciate it if, like my lovely family, people were careful around us all.

Re: Are we still concerned about the Worlds Pandemic or not? - Jen (21st Mar 2022 - 10:04:20) Paul - there is no need to worry. The reason why hospital admission figures are rising is not because there are lots of people who are seriously ill in hospital with Covid. The statistics on hospital admissions show how many people test positive for Covid on admission to hospital. Most people going into hospital now are there for planned operations or because of emergency admission due to reasons other than Covid. At least three quarters of all admissions of people with Covid are the incidental cases. Numbers of positive test results have increased because the latest mutation of Omicron, BA.2, is even more transmissible than the previous one, so people are more likely to catch it. For the vast majority of people, the virus produces only a mild illness that doesn't require medical intervention. Because so many people have now either had the virus or been triple vaccinated - or both - the virus is now 40 times less dangerous than it was two years ago. I have literally just seen a respected doctor make that statement on the BBC. So, please stop worrying and start enjoying your life again. It's a beautiful spring day. Let's all enjoy it!

Re: Are we still concerned about the Worlds Pandemic or not? - Re (21st Mar 2022 - 10:29:52) Agree with A/F there are more illnesses killing people because of lack of care because too much is being made of this virus. We all need to get back to work in the office especially the public sector look at the DVLA shower they should be sacked and their jobs given to people that want to work. Lots of people have had this virus couple of days with a runny nose then back to work. Ok some people will die of it but not as many as Heart or Cancer we need to get back to normal start working flat out to keep this country going. Boris is doing a good job, he didn’t sign up for all of this but he has got on with running the country working his socks off . Let’s do the same we need to start supporting ourselves grow more food for starters. We need to get people to work together just like the war years we CAN DO IT.

Re: Are we still concerned about the Worlds Pandemic or not? - Ian (21st Mar 2022 - 11:05:23) Both Paul and AF are at opposite ends of the spectrum but both have a history on Talkback of stirring it up on this topic with extreme and often misleading statements. I suspect their posts are primarily to provoke or just satisfy their need for attention seeking

Re: Are we still concerned about the Worlds Pandemic or not? - paul (21st Mar 2022 - 15:17:18) Hi, Thank you Ian for your post, and I am not an attention seeking, never have been. I do not "stir things up". My post's are for local community support, and awareness of the still called Global Pandemic. Infections rates of Covid-19 are growing rapidly in the U.K. now. There are several reasons for this i.e. lack of restrictions in society, people back at work places and schools. Also vaccines administered waning in effectiveness. Some people get "Long - Covid" still from the disease, and suffer for many months to come. Asia countries have very high rates of this infection at current times. To say it is a "mild disease" description, is folly on one own's health and life expectancy.

Re: Are we still concerned about the Worlds Pandemic or not? - ian (21st Mar 2022 - 16:02:20) Paul, your posts are not to support the community, you are stoking the fear with unbalanced and speculative posts. The facts about the current Covid levels are all over the proper news media, offering the balance that yours lack. Don't kid your self, because you are not kidding anyone here mate

Re: Are we still concerned about the Worlds Pandemic or not? - Dave (21st Mar 2022 - 19:13:06) I can’t wait for the Ukrainian variant….. after all I couldn’t see my family for best part of two years, now I can house a Ukrainian family for 6 months and get paid!

Re: Are we still concerned about the Worlds Pandemic or not? - paul (22nd Mar 2022 - 11:55:55) Hi, Scotland now has more Covid patients in hospital, than at the start of the pandemic 2020.

Re: Are we still concerned about the Worlds Pandemic or not? - Steve (22nd Mar 2022 - 12:50:43) A rather meaningless statistic without some context Paul. An Immediate question that comes to mind is what proportion of patients have been admitted directly because of covid symptoms compared to those either already in hospital or being admitted who happen to have tested positive? I suspect that you will find the answer to that question is rather different now than in the spring of 2020.

Re: Are we still concerned about the Worlds Pandemic or not? - M (22nd Mar 2022 - 13:42:36) LIES, DAM LIES AND STATISICS! You can report any statistic anyway you wish and make it fit any agenda you want..... Politicians of all persuasions have been doing it for hundreds of years. Paul's comments are correct BUT the patients aren't all in hospital because of covid, they are in hospital for other reasons and happen to of been tested for covid (as every patient is now so obviously a high occurance of covid will be found....the more you test the more you will find!) and they're Covid isn't causing the vast majority of patients issues. Check the number who are now in intensive care due to covid only. How many patients, or the general public, are tested for Flu? Covid-19 is a strain of Flu, it caused major issues when first detected in 2019 but as it has mutated it has lost some of its ferocity and less people are having life threatening symptoms. It will never go away but, I hope, will end up as yet another "Flu" type virus that some people, unfortunately, will possibly die of........just as humans have been doing since the start of time. Everyone should be sensible and help protect those that are vulnerable to Flu type viruses but the time has come to live with it and move forward. Stopping the reporting of covid "stats" would help, when will that happen?

Re: Are we still concerned about the Worlds Pandemic or not? - paul (22nd Mar 2022 - 15:46:15) Hi, Good comments 'm'. Marie Curie are have an anniversary today 2 years after the start of the Pandemic in this country. 185,000 people have died of this disease on their death certificate. Trying to make light of a serious illness is not welcome.

Re: Are we still concerned about the Worlds Pandemic or not? - passfield resident (22nd Mar 2022 - 16:05:56) M-Covid isn't a strain of flu-it's caused by a different virus. Statistics can help us to judge situations. Outright falsehoods don't help anyone

Re: Are we still concerned about the Worlds Pandemic or not? - AF (22nd Mar 2022 - 17:18:24) Paul The 185,000 deaths you refer to are people whose death certificate mentions COVID as a contributary and NOT sole cause of death, and as we know the people who are most affected are the old and frail and those with other conditions. Therefore a number of these people would sadly have died anyway, COVID may not have helped but not the only or primary cause of death. We need to move on. Perhaps Paul we should also bear in mind that each year in the UK the annual death toll is around 650,000 so the last 2 Years there will have been 1.3 million deaths regardless of COVID, puts the 185,000 into perspective. Passfield resident COVID is a Corona virus and flu is a Corona virus. COVID may not be a strain of flu but certainly comes from the same family of virus.

Re: Are we still concerned about the Worlds Pandemic or not? - passfield resident (22nd Mar 2022 - 19:56:56) AF-I don't need a science lesson from you , thanks. Your posts on covid have been consistently moronic.

Re: Are we still concerned about the Worlds Pandemic or not? - Ktb (22nd Mar 2022 - 20:09:40) AF -Please be aware that COVID-19 (SARS-CoV-2) and flu (influenza) are not the same type of virus. pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33064680 asm.org/Articles/2020/July/COVID-19-and-the-Flu sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1876034120306808 They are both RNA virus and have similar symptoms but they work in different ways.

Re: Are we still concerned about the Worlds Pandemic or not? - M (22nd Mar 2022 - 20:28:30) @Paul. In no way do I feel I have made light of covid19. I totally appreciate the impact covid has had on individuals, families and society as a whole....my own family included. If you have read my post as making light of covid then there's nothing I can do about that except to say you are wrong. @Passfield Resident I stand by my comments that covid19 is similar to the Flu virus. A quick Google shows that how you catch covid, it's symptoms, it's complications and possible outcomes are all extremely similar to the Flu virus. I fully agree they are not the same virus but they do act very similar and can be combated in the same way. If you don't agree then that's up to you, it's a free country, but I wholeheartedly don't believe I have made any falsehoods.

Re: Are we still concerned about the Worlds Pandemic or not? - passfield resident (22nd Mar 2022 - 21:08:50) M -you said Covid is a strain of flu. That's incorrect (ie false. )

Re: Are we still concerned about the Worlds Pandemic or not? - M (22nd Mar 2022 - 21:53:09) @Passfield Resident. Having reread my post I can see at one point I said "......Covid-19 is a strain of Flu, it caused major issues when first detected in 2019 but as it has mutated it has lost some of its ferocity and less people are having life threatening symptoms." I agree that covid is not a strain of Flu, that is incorrect and therefore hold my hands up as wrong there, but I still belive it has many, many similarities with Flu and can be combated in a similar way. But later in my post I say ".......It will never go away but, I hope, will end up as yet another "Flu" type virus that some people, unfortunately, will possibly die of........just as humans have been doing since the start of time. Everyone should be sensible and help protect those that are vulnerable to Flu type viruses but the time has come to live with it and move forward." So once I "miss spoke" as some politicians would say but twice, I believe, I did write my opinion in what I feel was the correct way.

Re: Are we still concerned about the Worlds Pandemic or not? - Ktb (23rd Mar 2022 - 05:11:39) M- if you have look at the websites on my last post you would know the Covid-19 and the Flu work in different ways so they might have similar symptoms but they can’t be treated with the same medicines. This is because the chemicals they use to enter a human cell are different.

Re: Are we still concerned about the Worlds Pandemic or not? - M (23rd Mar 2022 - 07:24:14) @Ktb I used the word "combated" and not "treated". You combat the spread of covid19 and Flu in the same way using the same type of simple hygiene procedures. Of course you use different drugs and vaccines as they are different viruses, in exactly the same way you use different drugs for different cancers etc. Covid19 is here to stay, it will always keep reoccurring as a different virus, in exactly the same way as Flu does. I stand by my posts (except for my one inaccuracy in using a wrong word) and now live my life in as normal way as possible, while protecting those that may be vulnerable if and where I can.......exactly as I have all my life.

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