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vaccinations - David (27th Jan 2022 - 21:06:57) watching the news tonight a lot of nhs workers were making a point about not being vaccinated for various reasons, i just wonder why anyone would not want to take one when all the evidence points to them being up to 90% effective and that the majority of people in hospitol have not had one., and would you want to be treated by people with such strange health ideas.

Re: vaccinations - John Jonson (28th Jan 2022 - 07:19:04) I say: Let the antivaccers pay for their own COVID-related medical costs, plus pay for others if proven that the antivaccers were the source of the infection. In money terms, the cost of treatment should also go towards the loss of monies due to COVID for the State, business and general economy.

Re: vaccinations - dave (28th Jan 2022 - 09:11:19) And if they cannot pay? just let them die? I am fully vaccinated and believe it is selfish not to be. I also believe their should be some consequences if your choices affect the well being of the general population but withdrawing free healthcare (which we all pay for, even the unvaccinated) is immoral.

Re: vaccinations - Penny Williamson (28th Jan 2022 - 09:43:37) John Johnson. I am no anti-vaxxer and have had all my jabs. I assume from the tone of your post you feel that anti-vaxxers, if they contract Covid and need hospital treatment, should pay for this themselves and if they cannot, be allowed to die. Would you apply this rule to heavy smokers who contract lung cancer, obese people who develop a wide variety of medical conditions costing the NHS millions each year and heavy drinkers who need a liver transplant? You could extend this to people who take drugs as well and need hospital treatment. All these things are life choices as is the taking of a Covid Vaccination. I would just add before anyone else does that people who contract any of the above do not infect others whereas it is thought that anti-vaxxers can and do. This argument is false. People who have had the jab can still contract and pass on Covid and are more likely to do so as those people who have been jabbed generally develop much less severe symptons, if any, thereby unknowlingly transmitting this disease to others.

Re: vaccinations - Joe (28th Jan 2022 - 09:55:20) The cost of the NHS comes out of national insurance contributions a lot of people never pay that during their entire lifetime. The same with tax some people do not or have ever paid it.

Re: vaccinations - Jen (28th Jan 2022 - 10:19:56) John, If your reasoning were to be applied to NHS treatment for Covid, then in all fairness it should also be applied to other preventable diseases that are primarily caused by lifestyle, shouldn't it, otherwise it wouldn't be fair. So that would mean that, in addition to Covid treatment being chargeable: Anyone who is a smoker wouldn't recieve NHS treatment for any lung, cardio vascular and gastric problems, nor any type of cancer (and quite possibly a whole host of other things that could have been precipitated by smoking). Anyone who is obese would have to pay for the treatment of diabetes, joint pain, heart disease and cancer. Anyone who has an accident while taking part in a sport would have to pay for their treatment. Those are just a few examples. We all make choices every day. Many of those choices are ultimately detrimental to our health. Perhaps you are doing all the right things for your health, such as never having smoked; eating the very best diet possible (ie no processed foods; 10 servings of veg every day; very little or no alcohol; limited caffeine; limited carbohydrate; no ham, salami, pepperoni etc; only small amounts of red meat.. and so on); getting daily aerobic exercise; lifting weights 3 times a week; not sitting down for more than 30 minutes at a time and getting 8 hours of sleep every night. If you are, then I salute you! It's something that most of us aspire to but the majority of us never quite achieve.

Re: vaccinations - Luke (28th Jan 2022 - 13:21:09) John.. what if a person is hit by a bus, breaks their arm, goes to hospital but then tests positive? What is your plan of action for this person? As they have covid should they pay to have their arm repaired?

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