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Radio 4 - More or Less - Penny Williamson (27th Jan 2021 - 09:54:44) I listened to this program on Radio 4 at 9am today. One of the topics was "from where are people catching Covid 19". Worth a listen. bbc.co.uk/programmes/p09565hd

Re: Radio 4 - More or Less - Ginny Stacpoole (27th Jan 2021 - 12:05:22) I so agree with you. This programme is a favourite of mine and I trust its figures more than any others.

Re: Radio 4 - More or Less - Donald (27th Jan 2021 - 16:01:21) Don't trust anything on the BBC! Biggest source of Fake news out there

Re: Radio 4 - More or Less - Richard (27th Jan 2021 - 17:14:21) Nurse for Donald Donald dear. You're not the President anymore... nobodys listening to you

Re: Radio 4 - More or Less - passfield resident (27th Jan 2021 - 21:11:33) Donald-can you give some examples of BBC fake news items?

Re: Radio 4 - More or Less - Donald (28th Jan 2021 - 09:29:26) Pretty much everything on Coronovirus, It does take a challenging mind though to sift through all the BS and emotional manipulation. Too many sheep in the country but hopefully BBC will lose its charter soon and will have to live in the real world

Re: Radio 4 - More or Less - passfield resident (28th Jan 2021 - 10:48:33) You definitely think you have a challenging mind.Everything the BBC is reporting about Covid is false, is it? Has nobody really died? Is it all a plot? Were the moon landings faked? Is the world really flat ?

Re: Radio 4 - More or Less - C (28th Jan 2021 - 11:40:33) Donald - do you really believe what you see on Facebook, You Tube, Twitter etc more than the BBC? Misinformation on these sites is why some people are saying they will not have the vaccination and therefore jeopardising those who are unable to have it. For anyone who is not sure about the vaccine, please do look at the video made by Adil Ray - this is aimed at the BAME community but is full of clear and sensible information for everyone. There is a link to it here bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-55809355 or search for Adil Ray vaccine video.

Re: Radio 4 - More or Less - AF (28th Jan 2021 - 14:24:36) Although the BBC may not be lying they are twisting the truth to fit their own agenda, which is to scare people. You want an example - When the news crew go to a hospital they will always focus on a younger patient that's one 30-40 if possible, they will say it's a terrible condition and we have to take it seriously. Now I know younger people do get it and can be hospitalized but it's rare, the vast majority of patients are the over 70's and we never see these people. If you listen to the BBC you would think COVID19 is killing thousands of young people IT'S NOT. They also fail to mention that the vast majority of people that go into hospital are treated and recover and go home. As Donald would say "I'm not scared"

Re: Radio 4 - More or Less - Donald (28th Jan 2021 - 15:11:34) In reply, I do not believe much of what I see on social media and sites such as Talkback either. I certainly do not think that Covid is something to take lightly but the fact is that the BBC on so many issues are now peddling out manipulative or biased, inaccurate reports without balance or integrity and are certainly not the trustworthy media they were in the past. Just last night on the subject on Lockdown isolation/loneliness they used clever lenses and filters to accentuate/exaggerate an emotional message rather than responsibly report the facts. For an institution that so vigorously bangs on about the mental health of the nation they are doing more harm to that health than probably any other media. The big issue for me though is that we the taxpayer has to pay for BBC without choice and in todays world, this is a disgrace

Re: Radio 4 - More or Less - passfield resident (28th Jan 2021 - 15:27:24) Why do the BBC want to scare people? I have found a lot of Channel 4's Covid reporting more hard-hitting. Piers Morgan and ITV have been laying into politicians recently about how terrible things are-do they all want to scare us? You saying you're not scared is pretty meaningless. You aren't scared for yourself, but lots of people (me included) are very worried about the people who have died and their families and friends. In most cases they are old people who should have had a better end to their lives, preferably with their family around them. Don't you get this?

Re: Radio 4 - More or Less - Penny Williamson (28th Jan 2021 - 16:55:54) AF I think you and I must be looking at 2 different BBC’s. Most of the time when they film in ICU you cannot even see the patients faces and they are too ill to talk most of them being on ventilators, let alone denote if they are young or old. I haven’t seen many ill young people interviewed either. It is usually the old – but actually does it really matter? Age, colour, race – all deaths are a tragedy- and the BBC or the Government are not trying to scare us - they are trying to save lives. Please give me one good reason why they would. No man is an island entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main; if a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as well as any manner of thy friends or of thine own were; any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind. And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee. JOHN DONNE

Re: Radio 4 - More or Less - passfield resident (28th Jan 2021 - 20:05:47) Penny-that quote is very apt-well said

Re: Radio 4 - More or Less - D the keyboard warrior with too much time on his/her hands (1st Feb 2021 - 18:19:22) I have no problem with the BEEB"s coverage of coronavirus but at the same time they are not infallible. Let's not forget what they did to Cliff Richard not long ago, and who do you think is now paying his compensation on the BBC's behalf?

Re: Radio 4 - More or Less - Shirley J (1st Feb 2021 - 21:56:17) Inadvertently 'D the keyboard warrior with too much time on his/her hands' has stumbled on one example of how the BBC deceive via distraction.....the £1m Cliff Richard BBC raid in 2014 was distraction from the social collapse of, as Rotherham’s Labour MP Sarah Champion put it in Feb 2015, 'Child sex abuse gangs could have assaulted ONE MILLION youngsters in the UK'. What do we get from the BBC....tumbleweed. And the abuse is still going on. We are in a process of social and now economic collapse and the BBC help the government cover up the true sorry state of the country. Liphook is not reflective of the true state of the country.

Re: Radio 4 - More or Less - Sam (1st Feb 2021 - 23:59:40) Am shocked at this negative description of the BBC, comparatively the world is absolutely full of worse broadcasters, sure the BBC isn’t the best of them but the vast majority are below it, and the only complaints of “narrative” you can ever even consider to suspect are around some of its news. As à broadcaster of arts, music, education, documentary etc it’s near unparalleled in quality. If your stupid enough to believe the Murdock press whom want the BBC fee etc scraped which I might add is exactly Murdock’s aim as well as others purely for control and money then your also stupid enough to believe anything. The end of the fee and the BBC is and will be the end of fairly decent broadcasting and we will end up with American style tv with 15 ad breaks an hour and totally contemptuous lies being forced down our throats not by regulated quality seeking boards but instead by hateful individuals after our votes and money. Telling me the BBC is terrible is the same as suggesting the NHS is terrible and should be privatised In favour of paying £12000 for a broken wrist !! Be careful with what your wishing for here !

Re: Radio 4 - More or Less - D the keyboard warrior with too much time on his/her hands (2nd Feb 2021 - 00:32:47) Shirley, maybe the false accusations made against Cliff Richard was a bigger story at the time, you can only have one lead story. As I know nothing of the other item you refer to I'm not in a position to comment. Sam, maybe if the BBC didn't have the safety net of the licence fee to bail them out when they get sued they wouldn't have ran this story in the first place.

Re: Radio 4 - More or Less - Sam (2nd Feb 2021 - 08:03:35) All investigative journalism carries risk, the BBC have apologised and paid out to him, are you actually suggesting that before the Cliff Richard event those at the BBC all decided to blindly go ahead with it because they felt safe the license fee would bail them out??? As this is the ridiculous statements of someone whom reads a cheap tabloid. Further more are you suggesting that this mistake regarding cliff Richard is sufficient to disband the whole organisation and replace it with what? Some mindless donkeys on this site !

Re: Radio 4 - More or Less - D the keyboard warrior with too much time on his/her hands (2nd Feb 2021 - 09:25:29) Some very rude ones as well, Sam.

Re: Radio 4 - More or Less - Joe (2nd Feb 2021 - 11:10:25) Leaving aside any debate about the bbc, I am amazed that the news of the Rotherham abuse did not reach D in Liphook!

Re: Radio 4 - More or Less - passfield resident (2nd Feb 2021 - 11:22:41) The trouble with BBC bashing is that it's the sort of thing the Tory right and Trump love to do-ie slag off independent news organisations who have some integrity. There is an argument that the license fee is outdated but the BBC is valued by people all over the world who don't have the benefit of a media free to report the truth as they see it.

Re: Radio 4 - More or Less - Jane R (2nd Feb 2021 - 14:57:08) Of course the BBC is censoring your news. Just look at who they appointed chairman on the 6 January 2021: 'The Government has chosen a Tory donor and Rishi Sunak’s former boss at Goldman Sachs. Richard Sharp has donated more than £400,000 to the Conservative Party since 2001.' You can't make it up!

Re: Radio 4 - More or Less - Sam (2nd Feb 2021 - 20:32:58) How do you explain the TV program "Have I got news for you" ? Which is on the BBC, has been for years and within which they rip the living piss out of the Tories and Boris week after week over and over? If your theory on Mr Sharp is true then surely the TV program "Have I got news for you" would be off air? Yes Mr Sharp is a Tory, everyone votes... get over it, am sure he know he has to be impartial, all the labour voters in the same organisation wouldnt let him turn it into north korea. And finally.... the phrase is "You couldnt make it up"

Re: Radio 4 - More or Less - Trevor (3rd Feb 2021 - 12:03:14) To see a different, more fact based rather than emotional, take on the news to the BBC and others, I would recommend watching UK Column on youtube. They broadcast at 1pm Monday, Wednesday and Friday and previous broadcasts are also available. They also have a website www.ukcolumn.org It's quite fascinating and explains what people are trying to describe here about the BBC et al.

Re: Radio 4 - More or Less - Alan (3rd Feb 2021 - 12:14:23) Warning about column.org mediabiasfactcheck.com/uk-column

Re: Radio 4 - More or Less - D the keyboard warrior with, oh never mind... (3rd Feb 2021 - 12:42:55) Amazing what sweeping generalizations we are seeing here. "The ridiculous statements of someone whom reads a cheap tabloid", I've not read a newspaper in years, never mind the ones whom toady up to whatever party is in power at the time. "BBC bashing is a thing of the right wing and Tories", members of all parties and fringe groups have criticized the BBC over the years. I don't believe I'm the only person who remembers the last (hopefully) Labour government and their regular disputes with the BBC. As for a pal of the Chancellor working for the BBC, there was no shortage of Labour party members doing the same when they were in power. Sam, you might want to check your own spelling, grammer and punctuation before you criticize others, you'll never be a journalist with your standard of written English.

Re: Radio 4 - More or Less - passfield resident (3rd Feb 2021 - 14:25:11) Criticising other people's grammar is cheap, especially when I can see at least four puntuation mistakes (plus misquoting someone) in your post.

Re: Radio 4 - More or Less - D the key (3rd Feb 2021 - 19:53:13) Yes, Passfield resident, you are right. I withdraw the second part of my post.

Re: Radio 4 - More or Less - Sam (3rd Feb 2021 - 20:16:33) I wasn’t correcting grammar as I didn’t think it was a grammatical error, it just wasn’t the correct common phrase. Agree entirely with the correcting grammar thin tho, it’s cheap and unnecessary, but when you attempt to sensationalise a a falsehood with a very common phrase and get that phrase utterly wrong it’s worth highlighting it.

Re: Radio 4 - More or Less - passfield resident (3rd Feb 2021 - 20:50:29) D the key-I respect your honesty. I sometimes ( actually regularly) wish I hadn't said something and I don't always put it right.

Re: Radio 4 - More or Less - D the key (4th Feb 2021 - 07:23:45) Thankyou, Passfield Resident. That's most kind of you.

Re: Radio 4 - More or Less - XJ (6th Feb 2021 - 22:29:18) Of course the Archers is less for more these days.

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